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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:30:00 -
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I used to mine in Querious on occasion about 8-12 jumps from the BA refinery (don't even know the exact distance cause I didn't even consider going there) and like 18 jumps to Agil, I just went to Agil instead to refine cause I didn't want those non-CFS bastards to get my money, and it became worse when they joined FA. I mined very very little though, but the point is I didn't even consider going to the BA station.
At one time I tried to join them because it seemed like the way to go in the future would be big corps and not alliances, but all I did was put in an application without talking to anyone lol.
Now poor Katya took a while to come to the realization that she's giving someone else a lot of money to mine, it's sad indeed, but promising that she's coming to her senses.
Katya you should take this all one step further and join in the fight against Fountain, your reason can be that they abused and exploited you in your EVE adolescence, and it will leave lasting emotional scars.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:30:00 -
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I used to mine in Querious on occasion about 8-12 jumps from the BA refinery (don't even know the exact distance cause I didn't even consider going there) and like 18 jumps to Agil, I just went to Agil instead to refine cause I didn't want those non-CFS bastards to get my money, and it became worse when they joined FA. I mined very very little though, but the point is I didn't even consider going to the BA station.
At one time I tried to join them because it seemed like the way to go in the future would be big corps and not alliances, but all I did was put in an application without talking to anyone lol.
Now poor Katya took a while to come to the realization that she's giving someone else a lot of money to mine, it's sad indeed, but promising that she's coming to her senses.
Katya you should take this all one step further and join in the fight against Fountain, your reason can be that they abused and exploited you in your EVE adolescence, and it will leave lasting emotional scars.
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:34:00 -
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Umm divide and conquer, yeah somebody said that about 3 pages ago.....
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:34:00 -
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Umm divide and conquer, yeah somebody said that about 3 pages ago.....
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IIIIII
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:38:00 -
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Reading this thread.. i really wonder whats the point of it.
If you aint happy with the curent situation, start dealing with it(be it by diplomacy or military action or whatever). This thread serves the purpose of 'venting' some anger, imo. Tho in the long run it is only increasing the hate and anger between the involved partys.
I doubt this thread will affect the result of the curent situation, but rather how the end result is reached(military vs diplomacy, as long as the hate/anger things keeps appearing and growing here, it only increase the chance of it all being resolved by military action)... 
tho.. those "dirty laundry" threads (like this one) is funny to read and i just love them, so keep them coming, but beware of the consequences 
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IIIIII
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:38:00 -
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Reading this thread.. i really wonder whats the point of it.
If you aint happy with the curent situation, start dealing with it(be it by diplomacy or military action or whatever). This thread serves the purpose of 'venting' some anger, imo. Tho in the long run it is only increasing the hate and anger between the involved partys.
I doubt this thread will affect the result of the curent situation, but rather how the end result is reached(military vs diplomacy, as long as the hate/anger things keeps appearing and growing here, it only increase the chance of it all being resolved by military action)...
tho.. those "dirty laundry" threads (like this one) is funny to read and i just love them, so keep them coming, but beware of the consequences
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Alkad Mzu
Originally by: The Daddy
All this backed up by veiled threats of force if the locals dare question the status quo.
There have been no veiled threats. We have stated publicly that we will kill whoever takes our stations. End of discussion.
An absolutely priceless piece of diplomacy. I would put it in my sig if I had enough space. Kudos
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Alkad Mzu
Originally by: The Daddy
All this backed up by veiled threats of force if the locals dare question the status quo.
There have been no veiled threats. We have stated publicly that we will kill whoever takes our stations. End of discussion.
An absolutely priceless piece of diplomacy. I would put it in my sig if I had enough space. Kudos
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:27:00 -
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If DSMA/CFS rise up against FA.. and push them out, people are affraid that FA/SA and allies will really go to town on us when CA leaves.
Even if we somehow manage take and hold the space, people worry that CA will only return later.. and attack us, when we dont have allies to help.
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:27:00 -
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If DSMA/CFS rise up against FA.. and push them out, people are affraid that FA/SA and allies will really go to town on us when CA leaves.
Even if we somehow manage take and hold the space, people worry that CA will only return later.. and attack us, when we dont have allies to help.
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CEO: Black Sea Industries
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Drunthil
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace
ask fa to ask local who you like more fa or dsma and CA said when all stations are handed to dsma/cfs/sta they will leave pb delve querious and a2
When was this ever said? All CA ever said was they would leave DSMA alone..I did not ever hear of CA saying they would leave the region, or not come in and harass non DSMA corps.
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Drunthil
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace
ask fa to ask local who you like more fa or dsma and CA said when all stations are handed to dsma/cfs/sta they will leave pb delve querious and a2
When was this ever said? All CA ever said was they would leave DSMA alone..I did not ever hear of CA saying they would leave the region, or not come in and harass non DSMA corps.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:35:00 -
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contact a ca guy and he will tell you we haven't been attack since we had the tpar station now sa hold it for peace talks and dunno if ca will start attacking again
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:35:00 -
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contact a ca guy and he will tell you we haven't been attack since we had the tpar station now sa hold it for peace talks and dunno if ca will start attacking again
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 20/08/2004 15:39:43
Originally by: Katya Detia
If DSMA/CFS rise up against FA.. and push them out, people are affraid that FA/SA and allies will really go to town on us when CA leaves.
Even if we somehow manage take and hold the space, people worry that CA will only return later.. and attack us, when we dont have allies to help.
CA will keep taking the stations from FA in querious, delve and period basis regions. This includes the stations FA hands to SA to circumvent the CA position. DSMA/CFS/STAR alliances should learn to work together.
And SA will have no reason to attack you guys if you decide to take the stations from FA, since it's something between FA and the locals. I though SA was CFS/DSMA friendly?.
edit: spelling
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 20/08/2004 15:39:43
Originally by: Katya Detia
If DSMA/CFS rise up against FA.. and push them out, people are affraid that FA/SA and allies will really go to town on us when CA leaves.
Even if we somehow manage take and hold the space, people worry that CA will only return later.. and attack us, when we dont have allies to help.
CA will keep taking the stations from FA in querious, delve and period basis regions. This includes the stations FA hands to SA to circumvent the CA position. DSMA/CFS/STAR alliances should learn to work together.
And SA will have no reason to attack you guys if you decide to take the stations from FA, since it's something between FA and the locals. I though SA was CFS/DSMA friendly?.
edit: spelling
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:50:00 -
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SA are trying to help keep the peace at the moment. They have done whats best in the short term, and stopped a war.
But its only a short term fix.
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:50:00 -
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SA are trying to help keep the peace at the moment. They have done whats best in the short term, and stopped a war.
But its only a short term fix.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:50:00 -
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Just want to say, this is not a political post. IÆm no politician and I donÆt care which way this goes, as long as I get to shoot somebody. Hehe.
Thing that annoys me here is that some CA (not all) keep whining about FA alts posting whenever someone without a tag says anything even remotely positive of FA, he must be FA alt, but when an obvious CA alt posts, itÆs OK. Hypocrisy. Then, when an FA member posts with his main, CA starts talking about them getting banned and kicked from FA. Get a clue. We can post if we want. We choose not to most of the time as to make you look foolish and argue among yourselves. Really, it makeÆs for quite a good laugh.
Now that said, I find it funny how much CA posts on these forums, yet I never see any of you forum warriors in the game (with few exceptions), much less in the region you (CA) are invading (FA). DonÆt you guys know by now that this game is played in space? No amount of flames and griefÆs will change the fact that firepower will win any argument. Period.
Just a little advice for you all (not just CA). Fight with honor, donÆt smack win or lose, respect you enemy and you will earn their respect in return. Simple.
All this other BS just breeds hate of people you donÆt know, but if you did, they could very easily be one of your very best friends. Think about it. Most of us are smart, mature people from all over the world that like the same things in RL, like gamming, technology, competition and a good laugh (not to mention sex, drugs and rock&roll). Why spoil it with hate? Personally, I feel bad for people when I destroy their ships. Especially some poor miners. I know they feel bad too and that they worked hard to earn their ships/mods/implants/clones, but this is war. Still, I feel for them.
We need to remember not to take things so personally and that this is a game. Please grow up and letÆs have some fun. I doubt that I will see any of you forums warriors in space. This is your battlefield and I guess you are winning, since we (FA) rarely fight back on the forums. However, in the game, itÆs another story. Firepower rules. Get used to it, because if you donÆt know it yet, you will soon find out. Strong survive and prosper, weak parish. ThatÆs why people form alliances in the first place.
End of story.
The truth will set you free
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:50:00 -
[230]
Just want to say, this is not a political post. IÆm no politician and I donÆt care which way this goes, as long as I get to shoot somebody. Hehe.
Thing that annoys me here is that some CA (not all) keep whining about FA alts posting whenever someone without a tag says anything even remotely positive of FA, he must be FA alt, but when an obvious CA alt posts, itÆs OK. Hypocrisy. Then, when an FA member posts with his main, CA starts talking about them getting banned and kicked from FA. Get a clue. We can post if we want. We choose not to most of the time as to make you look foolish and argue among yourselves. Really, it makeÆs for quite a good laugh.
Now that said, I find it funny how much CA posts on these forums, yet I never see any of you forum warriors in the game (with few exceptions), much less in the region you (CA) are invading (FA). DonÆt you guys know by now that this game is played in space? No amount of flames and griefÆs will change the fact that firepower will win any argument. Period.
Just a little advice for you all (not just CA). Fight with honor, donÆt smack win or lose, respect you enemy and you will earn their respect in return. Simple.
All this other BS just breeds hate of people you donÆt know, but if you did, they could very easily be one of your very best friends. Think about it. Most of us are smart, mature people from all over the world that like the same things in RL, like gamming, technology, competition and a good laugh (not to mention sex, drugs and rock&roll). Why spoil it with hate? Personally, I feel bad for people when I destroy their ships. Especially some poor miners. I know they feel bad too and that they worked hard to earn their ships/mods/implants/clones, but this is war. Still, I feel for them.
We need to remember not to take things so personally and that this is a game. Please grow up and letÆs have some fun. I doubt that I will see any of you forums warriors in space. This is your battlefield and I guess you are winning, since we (FA) rarely fight back on the forums. However, in the game, itÆs another story. Firepower rules. Get used to it, because if you donÆt know it yet, you will soon find out. Strong survive and prosper, weak parish. ThatÆs why people form alliances in the first place.
End of story.
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 20/08/2004 16:01:00
Originally by: Katya Detia
SA are trying to help keep the peace at the moment. They have done whats best in the short term, and stopped a war.
But its only a short term fix.
Katya, SA taking the stations is just as unacceptable as FA. You guys should hold your own station. FA and SA think they can just tell you guys what to do. And while you guys lose more ships in defence of their station, they just keep collecting taxes and laughing their asses off. I don't understand how any alliance could cooperate with that.
At least CA doesn't offer friendship with the intent of exploiting you guys.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.20 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 20/08/2004 16:01:00
Originally by: Katya Detia
SA are trying to help keep the peace at the moment. They have done whats best in the short term, and stopped a war.
But its only a short term fix.
Katya, SA taking the stations is just as unacceptable as FA. You guys should hold your own station. FA and SA think they can just tell you guys what to do. And while you guys lose more ships in defence of their station, they just keep collecting taxes and laughing their asses off. I don't understand how any alliance could cooperate with that.
At least CA doesn't offer friendship with the intent of exploiting you guys.
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Katya Detia
SA are trying to help keep the peace at the moment. They have done whats best in the short term, and stopped a war.
But its only a short term fix.
Are you happy they are holding a station that they have never helped defend before?
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Katya Detia
SA are trying to help keep the peace at the moment. They have done whats best in the short term, and stopped a war.
But its only a short term fix.
Are you happy they are holding a station that they have never helped defend before?
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:06:00 -
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one thing we can't do anythin atm that won't result in war so there nothing to do than training our corp newbs in empire
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:06:00 -
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one thing we can't do anythin atm that won't result in war so there nothing to do than training our corp newbs in empire
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 20/08/2004 16:09:41
Metal Dude. I can if you wish refer you to a post made by your offical FA spokesperson clearly indicating that FA members have voted to not post on the forums.
Why? I dunno.
Now in regards to the ALT situation. Slighty positive towards FA? Erm... suffice to say several that i believe to alts of FA opinions are so lodged into FA they'd no doubt demand surgery for them to be removed. I can appreciate an neutral opinion that leans towards an opposition - but mate, there's leaning towards an opposition and actually being an opposition.
REad the alts posts, they start off very genuinley but later on they soon become very defensive and quite detailed in what their saying. A little too much detail i am afraid.
In my opinion, which is quite irrlevant to the issue really - FA should remove their forum ban and allow their members to maturley contribute to this discussion without having to make themselves and their alliance look foolish for using alts. AND YES you do look foolish for using alts, especially when their this obvious.
If your worried about FA members looking bad by flaming and getting involved in inappropriate arguements then simply dicipline those who do so, but do not prevent the entire memberbase of your alliance - as this creates these irrelevant discussions.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 20/08/2004 16:09:41
Metal Dude. I can if you wish refer you to a post made by your offical FA spokesperson clearly indicating that FA members have voted to not post on the forums.
Why? I dunno.
Now in regards to the ALT situation. Slighty positive towards FA? Erm... suffice to say several that i believe to alts of FA opinions are so lodged into FA they'd no doubt demand surgery for them to be removed. I can appreciate an neutral opinion that leans towards an opposition - but mate, there's leaning towards an opposition and actually being an opposition.
REad the alts posts, they start off very genuinley but later on they soon become very defensive and quite detailed in what their saying. A little too much detail i am afraid.
In my opinion, which is quite irrlevant to the issue really - FA should remove their forum ban and allow their members to maturley contribute to this discussion without having to make themselves and their alliance look foolish for using alts. AND YES you do look foolish for using alts, especially when their this obvious.
If your worried about FA members looking bad by flaming and getting involved in inappropriate arguements then simply dicipline those who do so, but do not prevent the entire memberbase of your alliance - as this creates these irrelevant discussions.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rattman
For the reference we have no refining tax and no docking fees so we are making no isk of these stations and they will most likely cost us more to defend these stations than we will ever make out of it
Rattman
For the 2 Omega corp posts above me.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.20 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rattman
For the reference we have no refining tax and no docking fees so we are making no isk of these stations and they will most likely cost us more to defend these stations than we will ever make out of it
Rattman
For the 2 Omega corp posts above me.
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