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Caecilia Arene
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.29 09:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Psi Draconis
Just shuttle in high sec.
Seriously you DON'T autopilot with T2 BPO onboard. Nothing can't catch shuttle in highsec or scan it fast enough...
This is seriously the only right answer for high grade goods with basically null volume for high sec travel. No autopilot, insta warp, never had a problem.
Interceptor is a close 2nd.
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Katie Miner
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Posted - 2009.03.29 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Katie Miner on 29/03/2009 15:50:24
Edited by: Katie Miner on 29/03/2009 15:49:41
Navy mega
3x 1600mm plate
3x Hardeners
1x EANM
1x Dmg control
3x Trimark
HG slave set
330 EHP + no autopilot = safe
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Darkwing Dan
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Posted - 2009.03.29 16:36:00 -
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I still prefer a freigther when transporting expensive stuff. With the increased CONCORD effectiveness it should be close to 100% safe.
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Caecilia Arene
Originally by: Psi Draconis
Just shuttle in high sec.
Seriously you DON'T autopilot with T2 BPO onboard. Nothing can't catch shuttle in highsec or scan it fast enough...
This is seriously the only right answer for high grade goods with basically null volume for high sec travel. No autopilot, insta warp, never had a problem.
Interceptor is a close 2nd.
Unless they know you're coming...
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The Slagh
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Posted - 2009.03.29 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
With a named MWD is out of a warp bubble in low sec in 3 seconds.
Why Cosmary, why :(
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2009.03.30 02:41:00 -
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Just because a few people have mentioned low sec, I'll address that.
The first rule of taking a T2 BPO into low sec is don't. I honestly can't think of a single reason for or instance of someone taking a T2 BPO into low sec.
Anyways, lets assume you have found some amazing and previously utterly unknown reason to have a T2 BPO in low sec. Use a jump freighter, if done correctly you're safe from everything except the recently ****ed up bumping system but that's suppose to be getting fixed soon.
If you can't afford/fly a jump freighter and are still insisting on moving your T2 BPO yourself then you'll want to use a T2 transport fitted for quick aligning and with a cloak and MWD. As quickly as possible, click "align to," MWD, cloak in that order then start spamming warp to zero. The only thing that can get you is smartbombs. Back in the day I moved easily 20B in ferrogel through low sec this way and never lost a load. That said, if you want to move a T2 BPO into low sec, I'm going to refer you back to the first rule.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.30 13:09:00 -
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If you're willing to dare ità a shuttle could probably do just fine. There is really not much of a window for ganking between warp activation and alignment, at which point the target is invulnerable.
Right yesterday a guy was weeping about how they blew his > 2G BPO in his shuttle (in high sec...), by using smart bombs...
The OP does not "just" want to deny people to loot the BPO, he/she wants to be sure it arrives at destination and survives.
I'd just go for the corp hangar Orca plus some friends escorting you (possibly not of your corp, else pirates do 1 + 1 about the importance of your stuff...).
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Stealth is good if you can be sure your intentions and plans haven't been compromised, but the moment someone knows your plan, you're toast.
It's why I am with the Orca solution, because any good corp has spies in the others and by now the BPO move plan is known to everyone who wants to take advantage of it.
Finally, Orca is the one "you baddie will NOT get it" implementation. Everything else can be stopped and (if enemies are motivated enough) will be done.
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I take it you've never flown through Rancer or Otou when the really good smartbombers are online? You don't just sit there with the smartbombs on and hope someone runs into them. You use the scanner to tell when someone has gotten to a certain distance from the gate, then use that to time when to activate the smartbombs so that most of them hit the target. You're destroyed and podded before you even exit warp onto the gate, even if you're doing manual warp-to-zero.
Quoted for truth.
I have seen people organize *carriers* operations to gank people in low sec, insta-smart bombing everything small (and not just at Rancer), smart bombing / ganking in high sec.
Expecially in high sec, people feel safe but don't notice how every other gate there's a scan ship and past that gate there's a compliment of destroyer / gank BS (for smaller ships you can save on the BS and sacrifice the destroyer) / hauler (for your remains).
When I haul stuff around I keep getting scanned & locked very often in high sec (by those not using a passive targetter I suppose). Don't believe high sec is anywhere secure. Concord is just retribution, not prevention.
If you can be killed, you WILL be killed. The only way to insure pirates won't want your stuff is to make it into a corp hangar in an Orca. This still leaves your corp enemies, and this is enough to deal with without having to also deal with pirates.
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