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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2009.03.26 14:19:00 -
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The Golem is better than any other mission ship I have tried so far.
It is mostly definetly beats the Raven or Navy Raven.
I've flown most of the Caldari & Gallente mission battleships & this one really shines
I'm enjoying my experience with this ship, whether it lasts who knows but with the right skills & fittings it is a real solid ISK earner & for mission running you really cant get much better.
If you have not tried a Golem, go for it, it really is worth the investment.
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Sahga7
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.03.26 15:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Pteranodon
The Golem is better than any other mission ship I have tried so far.
It is mostly definetly beats the Raven or Navy Raven.
I've flown most of the Caldari & Gallente mission battleships & this one really shines
I'm enjoying my experience with this ship, whether it lasts who knows but with the right skills & fittings it is a real solid ISK earner & for mission running you really cant get much better.
If you have not tried a Golem, go for it, it really is worth the investment.
Any tips on setups? What do you use?
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2009.03.26 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Pteranodon on 26/03/2009 18:14:59
The strength of the Golem as with most battleships lies with good skills. I only use cruise missiles & have specialisation at 4 & all other related missile skills at 4 or 5.
My Setup which works well is
Highs
4 Tec2 Cruise Launchers loaded with faction ammo
Large Gravitron Smartbomb
Drone Link Augmentor
Small Tractor Beam
Mids
Dread Guristas Extra Large Shield Booster
Cap Recharger 2
2 tec2 Shield Boost Amplifiers
Large tec2 Shield Extender
2 tec2 shield hardeners of choice or 2 tec2 invulnerability fields
Lows
3 Caldari Navy Ballistic control units
Power Diagnostic 2
Rigs
Capacitor control circuits
Drones
15 Hornet 2
This setup with my skills can give me over 5K damage per volley with some rat targets- so it is seriously good enough. With Marauders 4 & my skills I get 14200 shields refreshed at the rate of 1400 or so every 4 seconds. Cap is good for a full shield refresh which gets it to just under half cap.
I don't use a target painter which might be good for small targets but they are easily killed with drones anyway & the battleships melt with 3-5K damage per volley.
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Daminma2
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.26 18:59:00 -
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Try my cruise set up.
Hi:
4 Cruise 2
Med:
2 Pithi B-Type Small
1 Shield boost amp 2
4 mission specific hardeners (Overtanks but you can substitute if so)
Lows:
4 Caldari Navy BCU
Rigs
1 CCC
1 Warhead Rigor
It perma runs and hits for 4797 volley with implants and my skills.
With T2 Fury it does 6136 volley.
That rigor helps those furies land more of their damage on BSes and let your regular missiles hit cruisers more easily.
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TimMc
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Daminma2
Try my cruise set up.
Hi:
4 Cruise 2
Med:
2 Pithi B-Type Small
1 Shield boost amp 2
4 mission specific hardeners (Overtanks but you can substitute if so)
Lows:
4 Caldari Navy BCU
Rigs
1 CCC
1 Warhead Rigor
It perma runs and hits for 4797 volley with implants and my skills.
With T2 Fury it does 6136 volley.
That rigor helps those furies land more of their damage on BSes and let your regular missiles hit cruisers more easily.
If it overtanks, why not just try to omni tank it so you never need to adjust fittings?
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Daminma2
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Daminma2
snip
If it overtanks, why not just try to omni tank it so you never need to adjust fittings?
I prefer to over agro so I still go with mission specific setups. There are some missions that I even forget to put the hardeners on :/
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Trader20
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:13:00 -
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Using faction ammo on missions = FAIL. Nice setup though.
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Mystafyre
Caldari
First Clan Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20
Using faction ammo on missions = FAIL. Nice setup though.
Not with Golem and not when you run missions for Caldari State corporations when you can 'make' your own ammo...
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Einherji
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:34:00 -
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this is my fit
4 x t2 cruise missile launchers
rest of the high slots for tractors and salvagers
pwnage target painter
2 x pith b-type small shield boosters
caldari navy shield boost amp
3 x t2 and/or faction shield hardeners
4 x caldari navy bcs
around 787 dps with drones and a excellent tank if you have the cash for low grade crystal implants
fury cruise missiles shine with just one painter
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:39:00 -
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If it's overtanked fit target painters or just omnitank it. I find alot of my mission time is in swapping out hardeners (almost enough that I'd be willing to buy an extra Raven just so that I'd just jump into the right Raven... and keep going)
I would feel like a total tool if I had a golem for each faction I mission against though.
-Liang
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Hai Guys
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Posted - 2009.03.26 19:55:00 -
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In a way, I actually wished I ran more missions to justify buying one and training marauder 5. They seem sexy as hell. That and it would go well with my 13 mil in missiles 
Maybe one of these days.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.26 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pteranodon
Another Golem convert
Or, how I learned to love the Target Painter.
The Marauders take a little getting used to compared to regular BS, especially tanking wise .. they really don't need all that much to work well, leaving much more room for the lovely gankiness.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.03.26 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20
Using faction ammo on missions = FAIL. Nice setup though.
FAIYou fail to realize there is a differenc in faction adn T2 ammo 
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Zackaryel
Caldari
Echolalia.
Shangri-La.
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Posted - 2009.03.26 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zackaryel on 26/03/2009 21:50:30
[Golem, L4 Runner]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier ( Because I had it so might as well use it )
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Target Painter II
Cap Recharger II ( Could be another PWNAGE )
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Amarr Navy Large "Rat specific" Smartbomb
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Expensive. I know. But I can afford it so be it :)
822 omnitank ( with HG Crystal set )
899 DPS
5844 a volley
Target painter inscrease the sig radius of the target by a whooping +46.8%
Large smartbomb to take out low orbiters
Drones for Frig/Cruiser-sized rats
T1/Faction Torps for low distance BS
Javelin for higher ranged BS ( as a reminder, they can be up to 50k, therefore the range rigs duo )
Permaruns as long as you don't forget to turn the Smartbomb off at some point ^^
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Trader20
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Posted - 2009.03.26 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan
Originally by: Trader20
Using faction ammo on missions = FAIL. Nice setup though.
FAIYou fail to realize there is a differenc in faction adn T2 ammo
Originally by: Pteranodon
Edited by: Pteranodon on 26/03/2009 18:21:33
Highs
4 Tec2 Cruise Launchers loaded with faction ammo
and you fail at reading.....
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.03.26 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zackaryel
Amarr Navy Large "Rat specific" Smartbomb
    
-Liang
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Zackaryel
Amarr Navy Large "Rat specific" Smartbomb
-Liang
Agree, would be nice if people did their homework before posting "their" fits.
Originally by: Signature
Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 26/03/2009 23:19:07
Originally by: Trader20
Using faction ammo on missions = FAIL. Nice setup though.
Before you go shouting fail, maybe you should know a little about the subject at hand? If you don't, well, you fail.
For example, faction torps result in 5mil higher isk/h from AE for me. Obviously including ammo costs.
Op's setup is not very nice though, in my opinion. It lacks rigor rigs and painters, and the 4th BCU. But hey, if it works for him and he's pleased with it, well, everything's just dandy then, isn't it.
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: 4 LOM on 26/03/2009 23:35:37
Edited by: 4 LOM on 26/03/2009 23:34:59
Originally by: Trader20
Using faction ammo on missions = FAIL. Nice setup though.
Half the ammo use makes it very viable (100% damage bonus)... i only chuck tech 2 torps and faction torps, not going to cut my dps. if i can kill a battleship in one or 2 volleys instead of 2 or 3 volleys it sure helps.
My current setup
[Golem, empty]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Heat Dissipation Field II
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Domination 100MN Afterburner
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Edit: not sure why i have mjolnirs loaded must have been checking something in eft
Without drones it does 1126dps with my skills (torp spec 5, and all supporting at 5... so i guess with all level V it does less since i have a damage implant lol)
When tanking thermal/ken rats it has a 718 dps tank for 42M with the ab off, but the savager and tractors on, with everything on it lasts 5min.(salvager off and ab off its perma), i have a low grade crystal set.
The ship is really just amazing my torps hit to 39km (eft says 42, but it lies) and thats pletny for most rats, the javalines hit ti 60km and thats the rest of them np,
The afterburner and tractors are what make this ship just so nice, plus insane dps while maintaing a good tank.
Originally by: Twilight Moon
of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
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Trevor Prime
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Posted - 2009.03.27 02:55:00 -
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Hey guys , i got golem from a long time , and i agree with u Pteranodon , its the best ship for running miss.
Thats a real $$ maker.
Here my settings: -4 caldari cruise launchers ( own produced caldari )
-1 small tractor beam T1
-2 salvager T1
-1 X-large shield booster T2
-3 active shield T2 ( mission based )
-2 inactive shield T2 ( mission based )
-3 caldari bcu
-1 power diagnostic T2
-1 capacitor control circuit T1
-1 polycarbon engine housing T1
-7 vespa T2
-1 caldari shield boost amplifier
Pretty simple, not to much money invested in it cuz of own caldari produced items
I LUV IT
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Darth Vaders
Caldari
Divine Slaves
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Posted - 2009.03.27 07:48:00 -
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This is what i plan to use when i ll be flying a Golem.
(initially i thought it was crap but now i realised that for some missions is a jewel. I fly Kronos now but Kronos has hard time vs Angels and Sansha that is why for them currently i use a Dominix with t2 Sentries)
One day when i ll fly the Golem this will be my fitting:
Highs
4x Siege Launchers II
3x Medium Nos II (may get me some more cap for missions with BSes orbiting near me, i plan to use other ship for salvaging or i will go perhaps 2 MEd nos II 1 TB for some missions that u got to grab a can far away)
Meds
1x X-Large shield booster II
3x Specific mission hardeners II
1x Cap Recharger II
2 TP II
Lows
3 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control
1 Damage Control II
Rigs
1 Rocket Fuel
1 Hydraulic bay
Drones
5 Med II
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Zackaryel
Caldari
Echolalia.
Shangri-La.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Zackaryel
Amarr Navy Large "Rat specific" Smartbomb
-Liang
Agree, would be nice if people did their homework before posting "their" fits.
I'd like :
1/ Liang to tell me what would be wrong with that. ( Maybe Amarr NAvy not providing every damage type Large SB ? If so just pick whatever damage type faction/T2/named Smartbomb )
2/ Washell not to judge people without knowing them. But I guess this is to much to ask for on EVE forums 
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Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.27 09:32:00 -
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And another Golem standardfitting:
[Golem, Gul's]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
[empty med slot]
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
In the empty medslot i fit an AB, another Hardener/Invul or SBA(depends on Mission. I use a Crystalset and some Hardwirings(Damage+Range).
With my Skills i have 1182DPS/8261Volley <42km and 926DPS/6471Volley 43-66km pure Missiledamage. Enough to pop many BS with 2 Volleys and all BCs,Destroyers, half of the Cruisers and even some Frigs with 1 Volley.
I love it.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zackaryel
Agree, would be nice if people did their homework before posting "their" fits.
I'd like :
1/ Liang to tell me what would be wrong with that. ( Maybe Amarr NAvy not providing every damage type Large SB ? If so just pick whatever damage type faction/T2/named Smartbomb )
A locator agent and my helios is what's wrong with that. I gathered what you meant ;-)
-Liang
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www.kwikdeath.org |
Zackaryel
Caldari
Echolalia.
Shangri-La.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Zackaryel
Agree, would be nice if people did their homework before posting "their" fits.
I'd like :
1/ Liang to tell me what would be wrong with that. ( Maybe Amarr NAvy not providing every damage type Large SB ? If so just pick whatever damage type faction/T2/named Smartbomb )
A locator agent and my helios is what's wrong with that. I gathered what you meant ;-)
-Liang
In Highsec ? Good luck trying.
Oh, and you forgot your gank battleship(s' gang members) too.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zackaryel
In Highsec ? Good luck trying.
Oh, and you forgot your gank battleship(s' gang members) too.
I don't need gank battleships, you'll do a fine job killing yourself for me with that smarbomb.
-Liang
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www.kwikdeath.org |
Zackaryel
Caldari
Echolalia.
Shangri-La.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Zackaryel
In Highsec ? Good luck trying.
Oh, and you forgot your gank battleship(s' gang members) too.
I don't need gank battleships, you'll do a fine job killing yourself for me with that smarbomb.
-Liang
Hmm I see what you mean here.
However I'm not sure about that but, does a SB hitting a cloaked target triggers the Concord Raping Team ?
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Arfvedson
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Posted - 2009.03.27 17:33:00 -
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Any real mission runner can tell you whats wrong with putting that Smart bomb on a golem.
You know that ID10T scrub that comes into your mission in a destroyer salvaging all your wrecks... You know... the one your just dying to target and lay into..
Well the first time he gets a wiff of your Smart bomb, concord is going to take your several billion isk ship from you...
If your in a several billion isk golem doing that. He might even do it on purpose.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.03.27 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zackaryel
Hmm I see what you mean here.
However I'm not sure about that but, does a SB hitting a cloaked target triggers the Concord Raping Team ?
Yep.  Anyway, I would only fit the SB for missions that really really require it. Otherwise you'll mention you fly with a Smartie and some enterprising person will fit a MSE to their helios and come concordodekkon you and steal all your phat lootz.
Just sayin'. :)
-Liang
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www.kwikdeath.org |
Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.27 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
If it's overtanked fit target painters or just omnitank it. I find alot of my mission time is in swapping out hardeners (almost enough that I'd be willing to buy an extra Raven just so that I'd just jump into the right Raven... and keep going)
I would feel like a total tool if I had a golem for each faction I mission against though.
-Liang
Tip: Have all the diff fits saved...then just load 'em up b4 each mish.
Big time saver. 
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