If a player would copy/paste the mail themselves then it their problem, CCP did not help them doing so.

Also, the receiver of a mail is not entitled to make the mail public without consent of the sender. Imagine the government to make everything public what was send to them, like letters, tax submissions, etc. Or a doctor who would make everything public about his patients, I mean.. he is free to share everything was is being shared with him, right? Wrong, it is all against the law.

feel free to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_privacy

1. It's an in game mail system
2. Spam mail sent to lots of members
3. It's not stealing if they send it to you. (Or reasonable expectation of privacy)

4. Go sue them or nothing will change.

(your doctor law AKA HIPAA here in the U.S) is not allowed to give out patient info unless consent was granted... That's not the same as getting mail sent to you and you the person then sharing it.) Lets say your doctor send your results back... You can do whatever the hell you want not them..

However we're not ******* doctors or professionals are we? Were playing a video game...

Ahahaha. Haha. Ha.

Right.

I'm sorry, I don't care about your wikipedia article because your initial premise is flawed.

Ed: Ok, a challenge. Find me any law in any country that makes it illegal for a person to release regular emails (not medical records, or tax records or classified information or anything like that - just regular emails) without the consent of the sender.

Im gonna have to call B__S___ on this one! if you wanted CCP only to read this, you would have filed a petition! instead, you went on an out of corp alt

My out of corp alt is still more respectable than you or your corp, Mr. Former TJA.

the key word is former lol. i have repented of my sins!

Surely people have been sharing Evemail-based intel since day one? So just because an API makes it easier we need to remove the feature? Look, any rational person would understand that the problem is not with the API, but people using it to leak mails. After all they could still just copy and paste. For someone with a software engineering degree you are being willfully ignorant. You're supposed to be a proponent of innovation, not a technophobic blowhard.

You're still tainted...

May I point out that it is not the player itself who is making the mails public but CCP through the API? CCP is acting as an ISP where it relays a message from one player to another.

Sowhen someone gives their email login to someone else the mail provider is breaking the law?

..

Jeez man tell me youre trolling... PLEASE. Otherwise Id have to ask a person such as this (not you mind you) that was displaying this significant lack of inherent intelligence (not directing this at you though) If they have to remind themselves to breathe?



Are you honestly trying to DEFEND this argument??!

[quote=Antisocial Malkavian]Jeez man tell me youre trolling... PLEASE. Otherwise Id have to ask a person such as this (not you mind you) that was displaying this significant lack of inherent intelligence (not directing this at you though) If they have to remind themselves to breathe?

[quote=Twulf]



did the person who constructed this god awful, incredibly hard to read sentence actually complain about someone's intellect?


did you audition for the movie dumb and dumber by chance?

Are you really trying to look this bad?

And trying so had you had to repost it?

(Calling me stupid for using words bigger than one syllable you apparently cant understand doesnt make ME the dumb one just so you know)




Well it worked. Good job... I guess

complaining at me because a link didnt work, is hardly the same as trying to read your piece of crap sentence! clearly, you took 7th grade english about 3 times before you passed. Now, move along little boy. Troll someone as dumb as you, Geil perhaps!

I think many have seen www.eveskunk.com by now. An API from a player is (ab)used to show alliance mails on a website for everybody to see. But this is against many national laws, privacy laws to be exact. The problem could correct itself if the sender of the mail has an option to exclude the mail from the API, but there is no such option.

My question to CCP, will the API be changed and the alliance and corp mails removed from the API? Torrent site aren't downloading the content themselfs, but facilitate it.. So is CCP, not sending the mails to website like www.eveskunk.com but CCP does facilitate it.

Not a law but I have found a court decision.

http://www.e-recht24.de/news/sonstige/1061.html

In Germany you are not allowed to publish private E-Mails without permission of the sender. As said - this is only a court decision I have found after 3 minutes googleing. I bet if one dives deeper you will find a law.. Be it copyright or "Right on your own words" (translates very badly - basically says you are not allowed to record my voice and play it to othes without my permission - seems easy to adapt to emails)


Anyway, I like the Idea of eveskunk.

k, now go do as I suggested and find the one that actually pertains to this situation. Where a player of a video game sued someone else in the same game so that a legal precedence was made to prevent someone from outing their in game emails. Cause then the ppl that wanna crucify Mittani would have yet more ammo.

It turns out that *this* is the (ahem) official eveskunk.com thread; locking the other thread now.

POP and lock.

Internet spaceship lawyers...

POP and lock.

Can someone please just post an image of the API key creation page where you need to purposefully check mail messages for them to be included and end this thread?

I'd do it but I'm lazy and tired and today's a holiday so I'm watching movies.

If you know how to pop lock you have to pass it on brother

1 - We are not all in Germany
2 - Germany's legal precedents don't hold any water on the international scope
3 - This is not even a legal issue because you signed away those privacy rights when you accepted the EULA


/endthread

k, now go do as I suggested and find the one that actually pertains to this situation. Where a player of a video game sued someone else in the same game so that a legal precedence was made to prevent someone from outing their in game emails

Passing it with the url
http://www.eveskunk.com/api.php
You have manually create the api key then manually add it.

The source of the API's could also be from players who left corp x to join corp y where corp x uses the API.. but thats for the player to fix.. delete the old API and make a new one.

But this case mails send by others are made public. Also the EULA is intended for use inside EvE and CCP, not a third party website. But it aint the mails through an API that is a problem, but the sending party is no option at all.. they have no option to exclude the sended mail from the API.

Can someone please just post an image of the API key creation page where you need to purposefully check mail messages for them to be included and end this thread?

I'd do it but I'm lazy and tired and today's a holiday so I'm watching movies.