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Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.27 11:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Wild Rho The only ship types in Eve at the start were rookie ships, shuttles, frigates, cruisers and battleships Nope, shuttles came later. I remember the huge corp effort that went in to buying a Vexor blueprint, and owning the ship when most people were still in frigates. It was godlike. アニメ漫画です
Pindleskin Amarr Dark Materials	Posted - 2009.03.27 11:29:00 - [32] To get a feel on how it was, just scroll to the bottom of any thread like this one, and start reading them from the start. Some are prooper funny. The trade ones make me laugh ;) Pindle http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=109595&page=3910 ----this----
Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:10:00 - [33] Edited by: Orion GUardian on 27/03/2009 12:15:22 Ohy eah, I remember the months of effort, Mining in a Frig first and then a cruiser to get into my first Battleship. I had to plea our corp industry guy to build it for me [because he wouldn't get money out of it] and then I mined away all the stuff I could get and missioned for the money to get the High end minerals.....that Raven felt good, although It couldn't solo some L3s aI went in ^^. Took a break from beginning 05 to end 07 -.- Lost the Raven first day on a gatecamp in lowsec. [our corp defended that lowsec against pirates back in 04] Thats how I got to know lowsec had grown more dangerous than 0.0....and I had lost my bigest achievement. Never bought a new Raven 1. it wouldn't b impressive anymore to own a Battleship [I mean, you get a T1 BS for 5-10m after insurance] and 2. wont need it. http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=112819 This is so great ^^....Officer Ibul for under 30m auctioned....multiply that by 100-1000 today -.-. A Million menat something back then.
Iyanah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:19:00 - [34] Originally by: Neo Omni People flew naked too. you mean you don't now? ...maybe it's just me, then. ========================================== that's no moon... oh, wait, yes it is, the space station's out the other window.
zaqq Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:19:00 - [35] there were no shuttles wild rho. we had to go get ships in pods. there were almost hourly reboots. there was gneis in 0.4's roid belts with roids so big they overlapped each other. unlike today where there is bugger all in empire. you could buy standings off concord. there was promise of jove involvement later on. i even witnessed gm white in a jovian bs in empire. there was a greater sense of helping each other, unlike today you could earn mega bucks trading. started with 25k sp, unlike these spoilt kids today :) in a world so full of smart asses, why is the world goin to pot ?
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:51:00 - [36] You could initialize warp and eject from your ship and the ship would still warp away on its own. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:06:00 - [37] Originally by: Jowen Datloran You could initialize warp and eject from your ship and the ship would still warp away on its own. LMAO. Now that would be real POS bowling. Use a freighter, warp there first in your pod. Did autopilo... oh wait no autopilot then. if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:09:00 - [38] One thing (some) people did not have in the early days of EVE was a sense of direction, as I think most of us were still in the mindset of having traditional classes. So, confusing to say the least. The game was also much less sophisticated back then, CCP seemed really to have no idea what to do with their game now aside from improving stability and performance. The market was a "npc prices" type of market for ships and modules and named modules was definitely the "woot" moment for many as, again, mmogs and rpgs in general was based on the gearing up-concept. I think most people were actually more jealous of people that flew cruisers as they were quite expensive back then, battleships was something unheard of. And teamwork was something essential unless you are like that anti-social oaf Chribba! <3 Oh, and there was no nebula background in the game either so it was indeed a cruel, cold and dark place.
Ginako Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:18:00 - [39] Roaming Frigate Gangs were actually a viable strategy
Vyger Radioactive Battle Bunnies	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:24:00 - [40] Edited by: Vyger on 27/03/2009 13:24:11 Day 0? It involved Bantams, mining lasers and Omber roids....lots of Omber roids. The joy of getting a Merlin though was unspeakable
Wild Rho Amarr Sniggerdly	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:54:00 - [41] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Wild Rho The only ship types in Eve at the start were rookie ships, shuttles, frigates, cruisers and battleships Nope, shuttles came later. I honestly couldn't remember when they were brought in so I added them just incase Oh one "fun" thing I also remembered as there was no way to cancel a warp once it was initated, if you got stuck on a station or roid the only thing you could do was logout and wait for your ship to vanish
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.27 14:02:00 - [42] I wish sisi would rollback to day 1 just for the lolz
Grainsalt Ghosts In The Shell	Posted - 2009.03.27 14:06:00 - [43] Edited by: Grainsalt on 27/03/2009 14:06:45 I dunno about my first day but the b**ger above me (Wild Rho) ransomed my kessie in some 0.3 backwater system .. And actually kept his word ... Ahhhhh the old days ---
Illectroculus Defined	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:28:00 - [44] This is why I wish I'd started eve a long time ago....
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:30:00 - [45] it was **** on the first day mate, noobs everywhere Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:40:00 - [46] Originally by: skye orionis In theory if everyone in the game started out with their noobship, civilian weapon and civilian miner we could bootstrap the whole of eve industry by mining for minerals and getting ISK from missions and bounties so you can buy NPC BPO's and Skillbooks and build those bigger and better modules and ships. But I'm curious as to what the early days were really like, did the devs seed the market with sell orders for ships. Were the players in their Velators and Reapers jealous of the people who'd been gifted Ravens through the beta. Were there missions in the early days that supplied the basic tools to start a career as a capsuler, in the same way that the current tutorial missions do. And a hypothetical, if you started the game and had to do it all yourself, how long would it take to bootstrap your way into a battleship? Everyone in the game did start with there noob ship civilian gun and civilain miner.
Daganfall Caldari Drink Starsi	Posted - 2009.03.27 21:45:00 - [47] Lets see what I can recall thats not been covered about the very first day... Skill training was broken (wait, have we come full circle or something?) Space was HUGE. Travelling from Todaki to Tash-Murkon Prime took most of an evening. No tutorial: Here's how you mine, here's how you shoot, here's how you warp & dock. Have fun. Everyone was mining because... Missions were worthless. You would run from cruiser NPCs. No Battleship NPCs Rubber band effect when dropping out of warp No implants Drink StarsiÖ - Tastes like Revenge Best served cold.
Bling Bling	Posted - 2009.03.27 23:16:00 - [48] First few days/weeks there were a ton of exploits.... instant completion of skills training. Invincibility to NPCs & Concord. Manufacturing minerals/items with 0 cost. And so on. Not widely exploited but the few who knew about these exploits abused them heavily, people got banned. Exploits aside, lots of things were bugged, broken or overpowered. Stacking damage mods, dual MWD Mallers, off-grid asteroid belts, cruise kestrel, etc. I personally got started by ninja-mining Arkonor using 4 accounts -- you would not believe the amount of flack I took for playing multiple accts back then, rofl -- then took that money and ran drug trade routes some ~50 jumps through 0.0 for sick profits. I had enough ISK within a few weeks to buy a battleship or the minerals for one as it were, but didn't have skills to fly it nor were they for sale. Eventually went 50/50 with a corpmate on an apoc BPO a few months in, but I got fed up with the game and quit shortly after and gave him all my stuff. :P
Katsumoto Caldari Quam Singulari PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.03.28 02:13:00 - [49] WTS: Cruise Missile Fitted Kestrel .
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.28 18:44:00 - [50] The first isk was made primarily by mining and selling the minerals to NPC buy orders... alternately by taking (found or bought) npc pirate loot, scrapping it and selling the minerals to npc buy orders. Good refining skills mattered. NPC's purchased minerals in vast quantities at the following set prices. TRI: 1 // PYE:4 // MEX:16 // ISO:64 // NOC:256 // ZYD:1024 // MEG: 4096. The new deep-core mineral didn't exist yet. There were no Advanced learning skills. No missions. No fractions of isks on the market. smallets price you could pay was 1 isk, next biggest was 2 isk. No capital ships. No Battleships. No sentry guns in low sec. Concord did not have battleships. ( Players got battleships before Concord and some people enjoyed chain-spawning concord, though they dropped no loot ) Everyone shield tanked everything, I don't remember if armor tanking just didn't exist yet or if it just totally sucked arse. The biggest NPC pirates were 50k cruisers that would spawn 4 at a time, or you could get 40k cruisers that would spawn 5 at a time. When you killed one, a replacement would immediately respawn, so that you could litter an asteroid belt with hundreds of npc loot cans in a very very short amount of time. The first big race for the corporations was to get the Cruiser BPOS. ( iirc, the first ruptures sold for 25m isk )Offices were in such short supply that people would "sell" them, and also scam people... mostly scam people. ALso Lab slots were in horribly short supply because then you rented the whole slot, and so long as you kept something researching and paid your fees, you got to keep the slot forever. Some corps would do this with both mfg and research slots to squeeze out any potential competition from 'their' station. There was no warp-to-zero. In fact there wasn't a warp-to-"anything" you just "warped to" the gate ( at 20k ) or nothing. I think it was changed to 15k later to mess up the bookmarks, and then even later you got options of distances you wanted to warp to something. Before that you had to make a bookmark if you wanted to warp to 100k from a specific gate. Battleships, when they arrived, were godlike. They could just as easily target and kill a frig as they could another battleship. lots of people flew them as they could do lots of things. Not the case today. Later on they added the "Super-Highway" gate system, which made it much quicker to travel around eve. It linked all 4 race empires with a central hub located in YULAI. YULAI became the first true market hub as so much traffic was forced to go thru it. It became so bad that that people couldn't travel though it because of all the congestion. When CCP moved the highway system, many of the power-marketeers that lived in YULAI chose to move to JITA and start what has become the ultimate marketplace in eve today. NPC Convoy hunting ( only possible in hi-sec ) used to be a lucrative career choice. The now uber-rare Harvester Mining Drones ( among other less famous valuable items ) would drop from these npc haulers and you could sell them to make a decent living. I once had the chance to purchase 3,000 of these for the now paltry sum of 300m isk. I chose not to at the time as it would have cleaned out my wallet..... oh the riches I could have had if I had made the other choice and sat on them for 5 years :) Auto-pilot was very buggy in the beginning and would sometimes just stop on it's own for random peiods of time. There's more. theres so much more. but to answer the OP's question I spent the first month in station training learning skills, then another 2 months earning isk, in the 3rd or 4th month sometime, I purchased my first battleship ( a TYphoon) which was the third one to roll off Techell Corporations production line. ( they did purchase the Typhoon BPO after all other BPO's, however. ) I promptly lost that Typhoon to one of Tank CEO's early gankings. it was him and a fella named Chandragupta iirc.
Dan Grobag Caldari Myon Decay	Posted - 2009.03.28 20:35:00 - [51] There was no cloaking after entering a system, so you could die before loading if there was a bit of lag, also you were not landing at the other side of the gate but at a fixed empty location somewhere in the system. Capacitor and hp were 1/2 of what they are now. you could launch 10 drones instead of 5.
Daelorn	Posted - 2009.03.28 21:17:00 - [52] Edited by: Daelorn on 28/03/2009 21:26:53 Originally by: Chribba It was marvelous. Indeed it was. Originally by: zaqq there was a greater sense of helping each other, unlike today I think this is the biggest thing I miss from when EVE was smaller. Now you can't even go to Jita without every person trying to scam you or stab you in the back. Low-sec use to be pretty safe with the exception of the occasional pirate coming around. People use to have mining ops in low-sec and help each other out. Now days you just can't trust anyone. Originally by: Ris Dnalor I promptly lost that Typhoon to one of Tank CEO's early gankings. it was him and a fella named Chandragu Haha, Tank was a good pirate back in 03/04 too bad hes such a carebear now, that is if he isn't off playing WoW I do miss pirating with him and other amazing people back in the early days.
Mr M Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects	Posted - 2009.03.28 21:50:00 - [53] There where a fansite called Eve-I that had an ore calculator, but since it didn't work ingame I wrote my own. For a while the missions where bugged, they where supposed to give out BPC but did in fact give out BPO. I failed a mission because I couldn't afford an industrial. The reward where a Typhoon battleship blueprint original. There wasn't a difference between copies and originals, both could be sold on the market. Player pirates usually logged off at 06:00 Eve Time (rougly 12am EST). Council of Stellar Management didn't get free tickets to Iceland. (Damn you CCP, I where a CSM member twice, and I got no free trip). Some people left Eve to go and play Star Wars Galaxies. (Moahahaha!) Some people joined Eve when EA closed Earth and Beyond. You could only leave your ship in space so you had to start docking and then eject to be able to go somewhere in your pod. EVEgeek\|Eden Underground Radio
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.28 22:27:00 - [54] Edited by: Batolemaeus on 28/03/2009 22:33:41 Originally by: zaqq there were no shuttles wild rho. we had to go get ships in pods. I remember that, but you couldn't eject from your ship when you were docked. So what you did is that you aproached the station, and 50m before you reached docking radius, you pressed "dock" and then immediately ejected. The ship would still fly the 50m to the Station and dock, while your pod was floating outside. Or something like that, i think Revelations changed that mechanic ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.28 22:39:00 - [55] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 28/03/2009 22:40:23 The only way to stop entering warp was by logging off. Seriously annoying if you got stuck on an object when trying to align. After downtime everybody would log in to sell their ore/minerals at the daily seeded NPC buy orders. During the first few minutes of your in space tutorial you would encounter a hostile drone that you could shoot and later scoop up after it had been incapacitated. After a few tutorial missions your agent would refer you to a regular level 1 agent 40 jumps away. Missiles could not pass through solid objects, but would explode if something came in their way. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Kaaii Caldari KaaiiNet Holding Executor Corp	Posted - 2009.03.28 22:45:00 - [56] There were no goons... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
OffBeaT Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.28 23:26:00 - [57] Originally by: Digital Solaris One thing (some) people did not have in the early days of EVE was a sense of direction, as I think most of us were still in the mindset of having traditional classes. So, confusing to say the least. The game was also much less sophisticated back then, CCP seemed really to have no idea what to do with their game now aside from improving stability and performance. The market was a "npc prices" type of market for ships and modules and named modules was definitely the "woot" moment for many as, again, mmogs and rpgs in general was based on the gearing up-concept. I think most people were actually more jealous of people that flew cruisers as they were quite expensive back then, battleships was something unheard of. And teamwork was something essential unless you are like that anti-social oaf Chribba! <3 Oh, and there was no nebula background in the game either so it was indeed a cruel, cold and dark place.
NightF0x Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists	Posted - 2009.03.29 00:33:00 - [58] I didn't join Eve on day 0, I was part of the last Beta though where we were stress testing the servers. It was a fun game at the time but I swore off paying to play any games. The idea of a MMO that you pay a monthly fee for was still a pretty new idea in the gaming world and I refused pretty hard. I finally subbed in 2006 but I do know that they reset the servers after Beta so you didn't keep anything that you acquired during it. ------------------------------------
Ja'kar Geb's Call Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2009.03.29 00:53:00 - [59] warp 0 - eve felt like a bad place M0o (gave me my 1st battle ship) warp 0 MAFIA Website
ikswosolok	Posted - 2009.03.29 01:23:00 - [60] Originally by: F'nog Whilst this guy may be exaggerating a little, there truly was nothing scarier than jumping into a system with m0o in it back in the day. And this was months after their greatest adventures. That's a pretty good rep, plus they were added to the backstory, as far as agents were concerned. my experience of m0o was that when they passed through a system all the local newbies c****d it and docked and started shouting on local about the big bad pirates in system and this wasnt even low sec concord back then werent as efficient as they were nowadays to say the least

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