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Arcin Hamir
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Posted - 2009.03.27 14:46:00 -
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I patched yesterday and in the subsequent 24 hours I have had four crashes to desktop (nothing else has been changed on my PC). Previous to this I had only had one crash in several weeks. Is this simply coincedence or have others seen an increase in crash frequency since the patch?
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oei
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.27 14:48:00 -
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ya, well more like full system lockup. Had to reformat and reinstall windows, downloading client and gonna try it again 
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Stabby McKnife
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Posted - 2009.03.27 14:51:00 -
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I definitely feel that EVE is crashing more frequently. Bug report it.
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Alora Venoda
GalTech
Whiskey Creek Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.27 15:19:00 -
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for some video cards/drives there seems to be a predictable system lockup and/or BSOD when viewing an acceleration gate. i get this on my laptop, which has Intel video hardware. EVE runs great the rest of the time... except some models are missing sometimes, usually stations.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.03.27 15:38:00 -
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I only encounter crashes half the time when I ctrl-q. It's the less elegant way to close the client, heh. But in the game things are stable.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:23:00 -
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Yup confirming that totaly random things that I couldn't even start to have a clue to reproduce knocked me to the desktop three times last night. Eve has never crashed on me at any other time as long as I have been playing the game. Diconnects and other annoying internets problems yes but ctd nevah.
OMGEMORAGE!!! CCP FIX NAO OR I QUIT!!!1111
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Agent Known on 27/03/2009 18:30:50
The log server should show something...maybe...
Haven't had a BSOD yet, but now that I've said it, I jynxed myself...
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Innara Tal
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Innara Tal on 27/03/2009 18:39:34
Yup, I've got a brand new box with high-end everything, only EVE installed on it, and it's crashed a few times whilst playing since updating to 1.0.2. (Vista Home Premium/64, 4Gig RAM, Radeon 4870HD)
Don't suggest it's a system problem, CCP...
Edit: just fired up on different box (ran fine prior to 1.0.2), getting "incompatible" error on startup; uninstalled, reinstalled, same error.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:42:00 -
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check you event viewers guys and see if it's python25.dll causing this as that is the cause of 100% of my eve crashes.
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:46:00 -
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If the EVE client itself were to blame for such crashes, it would affect everybody, which would pretty much flood these forums with whining. (Justified whining is still whining  )
Frequent crashes are usually caused by faulty drivers.
And note that any driver can cause this, not just the video/audio drivers.
Updating ALL drivers is a good first step. (Although, up-to-date driers can still be faulty)
Full on system lockups are very unlikely to be caused by the EVE client. The OS can usually handle a single program that is not working properly. For the OS itself to get completely locked up, there is usually some problem with the OS itself.
This is most likely, again, caused by faulty drivers or broken hardware.
HDD problems and corrupt files can also make the OS very unstable.
To sum up... it's probably a faulty driver, broken hardware or file-system corruption.
Update, upgrade, reformat, reinstall, or get Linux!
O, and also keep an eye on hardware heat levels.
Better graphics => more stress on the hardware => more heat generated => BIOS shuts your OS down to prevent heat damage.
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Innara Tal
...Don't suggest it's a system problem, CCP...
So, they should lie to you? 
99.9% of these sort of problems are system problems.
The other 0.01% are usually caused by the "new" WoW shadow engine
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:55:00 -
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Reproduce it, Bug it.
1. open logserver
2. open Eve
3. crash game (I did it in less than 1 minute or so)
4. send bug report with DxDiag and log attached
5. play Eve and avoid what makes it crash.
5 easy steps. Guaranteed to satisfy.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
If the EVE client itself were to blame for such crashes, it would affect everybody, which would pretty much flood these forums with whining. (Justified whining is still whining )
Actually thats not quite true. It could be many many factors like certain hardware combinations that ccp never had a chance to test the code out on that are triggering random crashing. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict its something sound related with realtek and soundbalster close to the epicenter as before this patch I always ran without sound and now have it on all the time. As far as my system I keep it meticulously up to date with drivers and security updates and make sure its malware or virus free so that is not going to be an issues unless its a buggy new driver which is actually pretty common.
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Pistonbroke
LCN - Armada
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:33:00 -
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Suffering crashes when changing ships.
Not all the time, but I've seen it on a couple of accounts and a corp mate confirms the same.
Only happening post-post-apocrypha patch
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
If the EVE client itself were to blame for such crashes, it would affect everybody, which would pretty much flood these forums with whining. (Justified whining is still whining )
Actually thats not quite true. It could be many many factors like certain hardware combinations that ccp never had a chance to test the code out on that are triggering random crashing. [...]
Even if that were the case, the problem would not be with the EVE client itself, but rather with the drivers for that specific hardware-combo.
Software developers can never be expected to test their software out on more than a fraction of available hardware.
If a specific hardware fails to run code built on standard libraries, like DirectX, which I assume EVE is built on, it can't be blamed on the code itself.
If there were problems with the code itself, any hardware that executes standard code correctly would be affected.
Seeing as most hardware runs it without problems, I would assume the code is fine, but that the hardware (driver) failing to execute it is defective.
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Mr Crepsley
Gallente
SkillzKillz
United For 0rder
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:51:00 -
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All the crashes I get after the patch are related to DEP
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Nightsabre
Caldari
T-Cells
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:55:00 -
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Ive found the crash happens when u kinda do something big with the client, like moving a ton of items to your hanger, or mass repairing...
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Seeing as most hardware runs it without problems, I would assume the code is fine, but that the hardware (driver) failing to execute it is defective.
Or it could be a combination of both. Hardware makers tend to have close ties to game developers and will work with them to add fixes to drivers or help the devs to iron out some issues in thier own code. This is why you get driver updates from the card makers so often. Case in point was supreme commander due to the way ati cards handled shaders and the games own grahics code. A new buggy(yay ati!) driver release triggered the faulty code and then both companys plugged it up. Result was an even prettier and better performing supreme commander than before the bug manifested itself.
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Seeing as most hardware runs it without problems, I would assume the code is fine, but that the hardware (driver) failing to execute it is defective.
Or it could be a combination of both. Hardware makers tend to have close ties to game developers and will work with them to add fixes to drivers or help the devs to iron out some issues in thier own code. This is why you get driver updates from the card makers so often. Case in point was supreme commander due to the way ati cards handled shaders and the games own grahics code. A new buggy(yay ati!) driver release triggered the faulty code and then both companys plugged it up. Result was an even prettier and better performing supreme commander than before the bug manifested itself.
It could be, but it would be pure guesswork on our part.
At least for the purpose of debugging, it is better to assume it is something you can fix, and try to fix it, before you blame it on the software, which you can do nothing about.
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eyenstein
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:24:00 -
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I've got a rather high end system and i'm getting crashes quite often, i run 2 clients ...and have been for months - its quite annoying. In fact I just got the blue screen of wormhole collapse NOOooooo!
I give the patch 5...
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
If the EVE client itself were to blame for such crashes, it would affect everybody, which would pretty much flood these forums with whining. (Justified whining is still whining )
Actually thats not quite true. It could be many many factors like certain hardware combinations that ccp never had a chance to test the code out on that are triggering random crashing. [...]
Even if that were the case, the problem would not be with the EVE client itself, but rather with the drivers for that specific hardware-combo.
Software developers can never be expected to test their software out on more than a fraction of available hardware.
If a specific hardware fails to run code built on standard libraries, like DirectX, which I assume EVE is built on, it can't be blamed on the code itself.
If there were problems with the code itself, any hardware that executes standard code correctly would be affected.
Seeing as most hardware runs it without problems, I would assume the code is fine, but that the hardware (driver) failing to execute it is defective.
No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all. |
Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Crepsley
All the crashes I get after the patch are related to DEP
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:30:00 -
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Well considering the impecibly clean nature of my comp and the fact the crashes started on the last patch and never happened before then it seems there might be a misplaced decimal or other such mistake in the code of what is turning out to the be biggest and moast complex expansion to date for eve or any other mmo tbh. But eh now that I think about it it seems tied to the fitting sceen being open when changing ships or messing with the autofitting option. It will get squashed. |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:38:00 -
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What is the module you guys are crashing with?
I crashed with a direct3D error, how about you guys?
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Anslo
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:42:00 -
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Yeah i crahed for the FIFTH god damn time. Internet's fine, browers fine, every other internet game is fine. But no, not eve, it's not allowed to. I'm ready to rage beyond control if this keeps up.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Well considering the impecibly clean nature of my comp and the fact the crashes started on the last patch and never happened before then it seems there might be a misplaced decimal or other such mistake in the code of what is turning out to the be biggest and moast complex expansion to date for eve or any other mmo tbh. But eh now that I think about it it seems tied to the fitting sceen being open when changing ships or messing with the autofitting option. It will get squashed.
Check event viewer see if it was python25.dll that caused the crash
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: R4d1o4ct1v3 on 27/03/2009 20:46:35
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all.
It could be sonic vibrations emanating from the roof of your house, which is being hit by the radiation from solar-flairs!
... Simply saying it doesn't really mean anything unless you can at least logically explain it.
Like I explained before, most actual client problems would have a global effect.
Actual hardware defects are rare (relatively) and usually have less than subtle side-affects. (Boot-failures and such)
Driver problems are very common and can be very elusive.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one.
Edit:
Not that I am excluding client or hardware problems...
But when you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras (in most parts, anyways)
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
What is the module you guys are crashing with?
I crashed with a direct3D error, how about you guys?
Every crash i experience is caused by python25.dll
ps what subsytem skill did you lose?
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all.
It could be sonic vibrations emanating from the roof of your house, which is being hit by the radiation from solar-flairs!
... Simply saying it doesn't really mean anything unless you can at least logically explain it.
Like I explained before, most actual client problems would have a global effect.
Actual hardware defects are rare (relatively) and usually have less than subtle side-affects. (Boot-failures and such)
Driver problems are very common and can be very elusive.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one.
the huge list of python25.dll errors in my event viewer is the simplest explanation i need.
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all.
It could be sonic vibrations emanating from the roof of your house, which is being hit by the radiation from solar-flairs!
... Simply saying it doesn't really mean anything unless you can at least logically explain it.
Like I explained before, most actual client problems would have a global effect.
Actual hardware defects are rare (relatively) and usually have less than subtle side-affects. (Boot-failures and such)
Driver problems are very common and can be very elusive.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one.
the huge list of python25.dll errors in my event viewer is the simplest explanation i need.
Well if you found the error the whole debugging process if over. No guesswork required.
By the way, what do the errors say, exactly?
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
No it could be a problem with the client and the hardware nothing to do with drivers at all.
It could be sonic vibrations emanating from the roof of your house, which is being hit by the radiation from solar-flairs!
... Simply saying it doesn't really mean anything unless you can at least logically explain it.
Like I explained before, most actual client problems would have a global effect.
Actual hardware defects are rare (relatively) and usually have less than subtle side-affects. (Boot-failures and such)
Driver problems are very common and can be very elusive.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one.
the huge list of python25.dll errors in my event viewer is the simplest explanation i need.
Well if you found the error the whole debugging process if over. No guesswork required.
By the way, what do the errors say, exactly?
Faulting module python25.dll lol
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Faulting module python25.dll lol
Ok.
To be honest, that sounds like a file-system error to me... a corrupt DLL.
I would try re-installing EVE. See if that helps.
Or even re-install it into a second, temporary, location and copy the "python25.dll" from the new one to the old one.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:06:00 -
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Now that my mind has cleared of last nights alcohol haze I seem to remember a standard windows info window with something along the lines of visual basic error = 20 or somesuch.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Khlitouris RegusII on 27/03/2009 21:07:15
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Faulting module python25.dll lol
Ok.
To be honest, that sounds like a file-system error to me... a corrupt DLL.
I would try re-installing EVE. See if that helps.
Or even re-install it into a second, temporary, location and copy the "python25.dll" from the new one to the old one.
Yeah tried that million and one times. it started the patch b4 the first apocrypha patch.
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Jericho thePure
Amarr
The 13th Armored Headhunters
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:13:00 -
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I had 3-4 crashed patch day. Fun.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:21:00 -
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I've had two crashes within the last hour or so, too much to put up with I'll start some investigating.
Both times were shortly after being docked and opening the fitting screen. Don't know if it's related.
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Yeah tried that million and one times. it started the patch b4 the first apocrypha patch.
Hmmm... Do you have Python installed separately? Could it be interfering somehow?
There are to many possible reasons why this may be affecting yo so much, really.
I would probably re-format my HDD and go from there. But that's just me 
Windows can get really buggy, really fast. I prefer not to use the same installation for more than a couple of months if I can help it.
Come to think of it... EVE has crashed on me a couple of times since Apocrypha. Maybe it's time to wipe it clean 
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Khlitouris RegusII on 27/03/2009 21:37:02
Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Yeah tried that million and one times. it started the patch b4 the first apocrypha patch.
Hmmm... Do you have Python installed separately? Could it be interfering somehow?
There are to many possible reasons why this may be affecting yo so much, really.
I would probably re-format my HDD and go from there. But that's just me
Windows can get really buggy, really fast. I prefer not to use the same installation for more than a couple of months if I can help it.
Come to think of it... EVE has crashed on me a couple of times since Apocrypha. Maybe it's time to wipe it clean
not got python installed and have done 3 complete windows, eve installs since this started plus memtest and various different drivers etc. I'm not a pc noob :( have been building my own pc's for about 8 years now.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:43:00 -
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If I open fitting screen while docked and then try to pan view by holding down the right mouse button, eve crashes almost instantly, strange.
Logserver showed nothing as far as I could see too.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
If I open fitting screen while docked and then try to pan view by holding down the right mouse button, eve crashes almost instantly, strange.
Logserver showed nothing as far as I could see too.
Have you checked your event viewer?
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:54:00 -
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Yeah but didn't give any clues to me, said faulty module unknown.
Just around 7 messages from each time I crashed it, all the same.
Quote:
Faulting application ExeFile.exe, version 6.10.1.17562, time stamp 0x49ad318e, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x00000000, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x13a40f68, process id 0x12a0, application start time 0x01c9af24b1d2d6ea.
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Tarhos
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
White Core
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:54:00 -
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I'm having a lot of random crashes with this patch too.
Client never crashed before.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Yeah but didn't give any clues to me, said faulty module unknown.
Just around 7 messages from each time I crashed it, all the same.
Quote:
Faulting application ExeFile.exe, version 6.10.1.17562, time stamp 0x49ad318e, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x00000000, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x13a40f68, process id 0x12a0, application start time 0x01c9af24b1d2d6ea.
well at least you know its not a driver issue.
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David Grogan
Gallente
Final Conflict UK
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.27 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Arcin Hamir
I patched yesterday and in the subsequent 24 hours I have had four crashes to desktop (nothing else has been changed on my PC). Previous to this I had only had one crash in several weeks. Is this simply coincedence or have others seen an increase in crash frequency since the patch?
count yourself lucky ..........since the apoc patch ive suffered a multitude of system failures....... 1. overheating gpus (new fans repaired this problem despite never having a single gpu over heat playing any other game) 2. corrupt chipset driver (resolved by a reinstall).........3. mft corruption and then failure .... resulting in a forced Fdisk and complete reformat of c drive ......... eve is hard on the pc but its not helped by crap drivers from nvidia
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.03.27 22:50:00 -
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I have been getting socket closed errors since Aprocrypha. Last night, after 1.0.2, I got probably three separate crashes. So seems like there is a problem.
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David Grogan
Gallente
Final Conflict UK
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.27 22:52:00 -
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last two asus motherboards both suffered serious chipset driver issues............... next board i buy im going ati.......... im done with crap nvidia chipsets
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Gealbhan
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 01:31:00 -
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Yup I was changing ships tonight and for the 1st time ever "CCP.exe has stopped working"
Crashed.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.28 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gealbhan
Yup I was changing ships tonight and for the 1st time ever "CCP.exe has stopped working"
Crashed.
Try adding eve to dep exception list for some reaason if eve trys to change something in memory windows see's it as a virus and stops it doing what its trying to do. if you still crash after that check event viewer for any python25.dll errors.
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Beebsith
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Posted - 2009.03.28 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gealbhan
Yup I was changing ships tonight and for the 1st time ever "CCP.exe has stopped working"
Crashed.
Yup same here.. Opened the Ship Fitting, poof.. CCP.exe has stopped..i also noticed.. when docked my fans rev up system wise.. havent opened case yet to figure which one it is yet... (10 fans or so.. lol)
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Sombike
Caldari
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.28 01:47:00 -
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Crashing almost after every second shipchange ... FIX IT
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Gealbhan
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 01:58:00 -
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Nope, was changing ships to see if I could replicate the crash again and boom - stopped working.
I added EvE to the DEP like you said and I'm running Vista 32bit with all the latest updates for the system and my drivers etc.
Like I said EvE has never crashed on me before and it's done it twice tonight now.
And looky here...
Problem signature
Problem Event Name:BEX
Application Name:ExeFile.exe
Application Version:6.10.1.17562
Application Timestamp:49ad318e
Fault Module Name:python25.dll
Fault Module Version:2.5.3100.1013
Fault Module Timestamp:494270e1
Exception Offset:0002bf67
Exception Code:c0000409
Exception Data:00000000
OS Version:6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID:6153
Additional Information 1:17cd
Additional Information 2:e22b484d6891ae11294af5ba506bf7b0
Additional Information 3:6c0b
Additional Information 4:3a61b4a9345b1187691ad878ed679b1a
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.28 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
Yeah but didn't give any clues to me, said faulty module unknown.
Just around 7 messages from each time I crashed it, all the same.
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Faulting application ExeFile.exe, version 6.10.1.17562, time stamp 0x49ad318e, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x00000000, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x13a40f68, process id 0x12a0, application start time 0x01c9af24b1d2d6ea.
well at least you know its not a driver issue.
Did a total fresh eve client reinstall from a freshly download full installer of latest apocrypha version, can still crash Eve at will following the exact same steps.
Plus as you say it's not driver version, plus I remember it being fine before the latest patch anyway. 
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.28 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Khlitouris RegusII on 28/03/2009 02:13:18
Originally by: Gealbhan
Nope, was changing ships to see if I could replicate the crash again and boom - stopped working.
I added EvE to the DEP like you said and I'm running Vista 32bit with all the latest updates for the system and my drivers etc.
Like I said EvE has never crashed on me before and it's done it twice tonight now.
And looky here...
Problem signature
Problem Event Name:BEX
Application Name:ExeFile.exe
Application Version:6.10.1.17562
Application Timestamp:49ad318e
Fault Module Name:python25.dll
Fault Module Version:2.5.3100.1013
Fault Module Timestamp:494270e1
Exception Offset:0002bf67
Exception Code:c0000409
Exception Data:00000000
OS Version:6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID:6153
Additional Information 1:17cd
Additional Information 2:e22b484d6891ae11294af5ba506bf7b0
Additional Information 3:6c0b
Additional Information 4:3a61b4a9345b1187691ad878ed679b1a
Thankyou can everyone who is experienceing crashes check for python25.dll errors in there event viewers and file bug reports to ccp.
100% of MY eve crashes are all caused by python25.dll
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Dong Ninja
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:07:00 -
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I myself have been getting BSODs on XP SP3, but it is entirely unrelated to EVE (I only suspect), as most of the crashes, according to minidump, is caused by avast! or ntoskrnl.exe, so neither one is actually EVE related, but it hasn't happened until I updated the EVE client to Apocrypha 1.0.
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Malasen Takhos
Gallente
The Wyld Hunt
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Malasen Takhos on 28/03/2009 03:30:17
Running good ole xp (and haven't updated it or any drivers for 6 months+) and eve has been smooth as silk since 1.0.2
However it has crashed a couple of times when i log out, so something might be iffy...
edited to add: running sp 2
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Crepsley
All the crashes I get after the patch are related to DEP
I've had a lot of these too. I turned DEP off for EVE.exe.
However game is still sluggish some but that might of been my ISP.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Arcin Hamir
I patched yesterday and in the subsequent 24 hours I have had four crashes to desktop (nothing else has been changed on my PC). Previous to this I had only had one crash in several weeks. Is this simply coincedence or have others seen an increase in crash frequency since the patch?
Bitter T3 pilot alt spotted in the OP? I think so
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:39:00 -
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What's DEP stand for?
Meh, I going to sleep. Try again tomorrow maybe.
This 1.0.2 patch sucks, broke my drones, sensor boosters look crap, makes me crash, meh.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy
What's DEP stand for?
Meh, I going to sleep. Try again tomorrow maybe.
This 1.0.2 patch sucks, broke my drones, sensor boosters look crap, makes me crash, meh.
Data Execution Prevention
It is in Windows XP SP 2 and above as well as Vista.
It has helped but I'm still having problems in game (right now at work not in game :( )
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Rohtal Dnar
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Posted - 2009.03.28 09:17:00 -
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Log Name: Application
Source: Application Error
Date: 3/28/2009 2:32:04 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: Sadique-PC
Description:
Faulting application ExeFile.exe, version 6.10.1.17562, time stamp 0x49ad318e, faulting module nvd3dum.dll, version 7.15.11.7948, time stamp 0x498345a2, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00203929, process id 0xb98, application start time 0x01c9af81c4d5b52b.
This could be a new one.
However if you have nvidia drivers hyead over to nvdia site and update your drivers. Because I disabled the Nvidia card and ran it on the native Intel graphics card and it seems to be working fine. till now. Earlier I was getting like 3-4 crashes everey hour.
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TheLordofAllandNothing
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Posted - 2009.03.28 10:11:00 -
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I thought my computer was on the way out.
Relieved to see other people are having the same problem as me, ive crashed multiple times, right in the middle of fleet movements/pirating , making me VERY annoyed.
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Sagitaruis
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Posted - 2009.03.28 23:04:00 -
[62]
Since the latest patch my vista PC has been crahing on multiple occasions BSOD, hang ups. So i swapped to a friends other PC Xp service pack 2 running on low settings and its also BSOD random hangs.
Both were running sweet before patch.
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Kalazar
Amarr
Asshats and Alcoholics
Turbo.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 23:06:00 -
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The crashes are BECAUSE OF FALCON!
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Beth Korai
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Posted - 2009.03.29 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sagitaruis
Since the latest patch my vista PC has been crahing on multiple occasions BSOD, hang ups. So i swapped to a friends other PC Xp service pack 2 running on low settings and its also BSOD random hangs.
Both were running sweet before patch.
Don't tell radioactive, he'll tell you your drivers are screwed up. Just ignore the fact that your drivers were working perfectly BEFORE a code update on the client. That's irrelevent. Completely. Cuz if code works on one machine it'll work on EVERY SINGLE MACHINE it runs on. Just ask radioactive. 
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R4d1o4ct1v3
MySQL Real Escape String
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Posted - 2009.03.29 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Beth Korai
Originally by: Sagitaruis
Since the latest patch my vista PC has been crahing on multiple occasions BSOD, hang ups. So i swapped to a friends other PC Xp service pack 2 running on low settings and its also BSOD random hangs.
Both were running sweet before patch.
Don't tell radioactive, he'll tell you your drivers are screwed up. Just ignore the fact that your drivers were working perfectly BEFORE a code update on the client. That's irrelevent. Completely. Cuz if code works on one machine it'll work on EVERY SINGLE MACHINE it runs on. Just ask radioactive.
Yes, that's exactly what I said
... no.
BSoD is actually Windows trying to prevent damage to your computer.
There are sooo many reasons why this can happen, that without the actual error message, there is no way to know what caused it.
But, the usual suspects are:
- Faulty drivers (often trying to use reserved memory or failed to clean up after themselves)
- Software memory leaks (which triggers errors when other programs try to use the locked memory)
- Hard-Drive errors (corrupt files, damaged sectors, etc...)
- Defective hardware
With #1 being the problem in something like 99% of the cases (in my experience, at least).
So you see why I tend to lean in that general direction 
And keep in mind that even tho your drivers may have been working perfectly before the patch, any minor change could trigger a dormant defect.
This is especially true for video and audio drivers, as they tend to be rather complex.
Try to catch the error the BSoD is showing. It usually points to what is causing the problem.
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"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Zaldox
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Posted - 2009.03.29 11:50:00 -
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Its all very good too point in the users direction off faulty drivers ect,and your right in most cases....
But when its after a patch that people begin too experience multiple crashes,that they did not have before the patch..Well then it point towards the patch and not the users...
I myself had a few that i couldn't really pinpoint..But some of my corp members have trouble whit the new fitting screen,it causes them too crash after the latest patch..
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Arkhan Bayne
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Stabby McKnife
I definitely feel that EVE is crashing more frequently. Bug report it.
I have, they could not reproduce. Any reproduction steps would be really helpful so that we can provide better bug reports so they can fix this.
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FireSplitter
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:47:00 -
[68]
I have problems with ALT+TAB. It crashes frequently when i do ALT+TAB.
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temponita
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:13:00 -
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Confirmed... EO client crashing like a ***** on Sunday.
I tried everything(clean install, clear cache etc etc.), no change.
I never had as much as a crash prior to this update.
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Mad Axe
Caldari
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.03.30 00:41:00 -
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I have crashed a couple of times since this patch. Using Vista the game closes itself with "data execution prevention...bla bla to stop damage to your computer".
I have only experianced this in stations, and mostly when i have my fitting window open and i quickly open my station hangar.
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