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Doonwong
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Doonwong on 21/08/2004 00:34:32
How annoying is criminal flaging. No point to sentry gun response when criminally flagged other than to make players safesopt and wait 15 minutes for no good reason.
YAWN
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Doonwong
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Doonwong on 21/08/2004 00:34:32
How annoying is criminal flaging. No point to sentry gun response when criminally flagged other than to make players safesopt and wait 15 minutes for no good reason.
YAWN
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:34:00 -
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ZZZZZzzzzZZZzzzZZZZzzz 
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:34:00 -
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ZZZZZzzzzZZZzzzZZZZzzz
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:36:00 -
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Then don't do something that flags you silly. 
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:36:00 -
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Then don't do something that flags you silly.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:51:00 -
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Azrael? Isnt that the cat from Will of the wisp?
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:51:00 -
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Azrael? Isnt that the cat from Will of the wisp?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:58:00 -
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nah its attreael the mighty king troll,
heard he had a lvl9 trolling skill
go npc hunting, normally you have all the belts for you
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:58:00 -
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nah its attreael the mighty king troll,
heard he had a lvl9 trolling skill
go npc hunting, normally you have all the belts for you
Wanna fly with me?
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EviL ElecTricIaN
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:59:00 -
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pointless timesink
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EviL ElecTricIaN
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Posted - 2004.08.21 00:59:00 -
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pointless timesink
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.21 01:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Nafri
nah its attreael the mighty king troll,
heard he had a lvl9 trolling skill
go npc hunting, normally you have all the belts for you
Shush you! I'd hate to have to pod your pimply behind back to the stoneage. 
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.21 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
nah its attreael the mighty king troll,
heard he had a lvl9 trolling skill
go npc hunting, normally you have all the belts for you
Shush you! I'd hate to have to pod your pimply behind back to the stoneage.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.21 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: EviL ElecTricIaN
pointless timesink
Not really.
If you walk out onto the street and kill someone, the police aren't going to look at you and say 'Cheerio. Carry on.'. They're going to grab you and haul your arse into jail. And if you manage to elude them for a little while, they will block off the area so when you do try to leave, they will again nab you and haul your arse into jail. You see, criminal activities carry a consequence that you choose to face when you commit the crime. The flagging system is a simplified way of providing a means to keep wanton criminals in check. If you don't like it, there is plenty of lawless space for you to go to, just like there's plenty of high security space for miners to go to if they don't want to deal with your ilk. But if you break a law in a region that is considered to have some kind of law in place, then you also face the consequences. And you won't get any pity from anyone but yourself.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.21 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: EviL ElecTricIaN
pointless timesink
Not really.
If you walk out onto the street and kill someone, the police aren't going to look at you and say 'Cheerio. Carry on.'. They're going to grab you and haul your arse into jail. And if you manage to elude them for a little while, they will block off the area so when you do try to leave, they will again nab you and haul your arse into jail. You see, criminal activities carry a consequence that you choose to face when you commit the crime. The flagging system is a simplified way of providing a means to keep wanton criminals in check. If you don't like it, there is plenty of lawless space for you to go to, just like there's plenty of high security space for miners to go to if they don't want to deal with your ilk. But if you break a law in a region that is considered to have some kind of law in place, then you also face the consequences. And you won't get any pity from anyone but yourself.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.21 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: EviL ElecTricIaN
pointless timesink
Not really.
If you walk out onto the street and kill someone, the police aren't going to look at you and say 'Cheerio. Carry on.'. They're going to grab you and haul your arse into jail. And if you manage to elude them for a little while, they will block off the area so when you do try to leave, they will again nab you and haul your arse into jail. You see, criminal activities carry a consequence that you choose to face when you commit the crime. The flagging system is a simplified way of providing a means to keep wanton criminals in check. If you don't like it, there is plenty of lawless space for you to go to, just like there's plenty of high security space for miners to go to if they don't want to deal with your ilk. But if you break a law in a region that is considered to have some kind of law in place, then you also face the consequences. And you won't get any pity from anyone but yourself.
actually they get my pity
the damned timesink is just stupid because of the way its done i would rather have a flagged so that players can retaliate over having the darn pirates sit at safe spots for 15 mins that is just redicules
let us freely attack and destroy ships by flagged induviduals (but not pod as podding is (suppose to be) bad) hell extend the flag to 1-2 hours
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.08.21 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: EviL ElecTricIaN
pointless timesink
Not really.
If you walk out onto the street and kill someone, the police aren't going to look at you and say 'Cheerio. Carry on.'. They're going to grab you and haul your arse into jail. And if you manage to elude them for a little while, they will block off the area so when you do try to leave, they will again nab you and haul your arse into jail. You see, criminal activities carry a consequence that you choose to face when you commit the crime. The flagging system is a simplified way of providing a means to keep wanton criminals in check. If you don't like it, there is plenty of lawless space for you to go to, just like there's plenty of high security space for miners to go to if they don't want to deal with your ilk. But if you break a law in a region that is considered to have some kind of law in place, then you also face the consequences. And you won't get any pity from anyone but yourself.
actually they get my pity
the damned timesink is just stupid because of the way its done i would rather have a flagged so that players can retaliate over having the darn pirates sit at safe spots for 15 mins that is just redicules
let us freely attack and destroy ships by flagged induviduals (but not pod as podding is (suppose to be) bad) hell extend the flag to 1-2 hours
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: EviL ElecTricIaN
pointless timesink
Not really.
If you walk out onto the street and kill someone, the police aren't going to look at you and say 'Cheerio. Carry on.'. They're going to grab you and haul your arse into jail. And if you manage to elude them for a little while, they will block off the area so when you do try to leave, they will again nab you and haul your arse into jail. You see, criminal activities carry a consequence that you choose to face when you commit the crime. The flagging system is a simplified way of providing a means to keep wanton criminals in check. If you don't like it, there is plenty of lawless space for you to go to, just like there's plenty of high security space for miners to go to if they don't want to deal with your ilk. But if you break a law in a region that is considered to have some kind of law in place, then you also face the consequences. And you won't get any pity from anyone but yourself.
Shush.
Please unplug your keybaord and hang yourself with the cordÖ
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael
Originally by: EviL ElecTricIaN
pointless timesink
Not really.
If you walk out onto the street and kill someone, the police aren't going to look at you and say 'Cheerio. Carry on.'. They're going to grab you and haul your arse into jail. And if you manage to elude them for a little while, they will block off the area so when you do try to leave, they will again nab you and haul your arse into jail. You see, criminal activities carry a consequence that you choose to face when you commit the crime. The flagging system is a simplified way of providing a means to keep wanton criminals in check. If you don't like it, there is plenty of lawless space for you to go to, just like there's plenty of high security space for miners to go to if they don't want to deal with your ilk. But if you break a law in a region that is considered to have some kind of law in place, then you also face the consequences. And you won't get any pity from anyone but yourself.
Shush.
Please unplug your keybaord and hang yourself with the cordÖ
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Gabriel BriGGs
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel BriGGs on 21/08/2004 03:17:30
So far, Attrael is the only person with an inteligent post. Way to go guys.
Change the flagging from 15 minutes to an hour. I would love to see that. Then you could sit in your safe spot for a good hour, pondering if it was worth nailing that 2 month old miner, mining for his second cruiser. Hell, maybe 2 hours! that's even better.
Edit: Wait, I liked Paw Sandberg's post too. 
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I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems..
2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.
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Gabriel BriGGs
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel BriGGs on 21/08/2004 03:17:30
So far, Attrael is the only person with an inteligent post. Way to go guys.
Change the flagging from 15 minutes to an hour. I would love to see that. Then you could sit in your safe spot for a good hour, pondering if it was worth nailing that 2 month old miner, mining for his second cruiser. Hell, maybe 2 hours! that's even better.
Edit: Wait, I liked Paw Sandberg's post too.
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I've had the same Gurista Imputor on my tail for the past 16 systems..
2004.08.16 21:38:37 - Combat: Your 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes Blood Sage, wrecking for 324.9 damage.
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Eldar Curunirr
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:20:00 -
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I agree, its totally pointless. Its just a tool CCP uses to reduce piracy which equals the miners getting killed less, then the miners who make up a greater bulk of the players, are happy. BOO
Eldar
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Eldar Curunirr
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:20:00 -
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I agree, its totally pointless. Its just a tool CCP uses to reduce piracy which equals the miners getting killed less, then the miners who make up a greater bulk of the players, are happy. BOO
Eldar
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:29:00 -
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"Tear" 
I will concede that sometimes this may harm people who had a legitimate excuse for attacking someone... but I think more of the times its inappropriate nonconsentual PvP that could in some cases even be reasonably called greifing.
what about the, possibly, hours of effort that was taken from the victim, in some cases at least, for no reason but the pirate feels like blowing stuff up?
empire-vs-not empire. in empire those things are illegal, thus its reasonable to have to avoid official type entitys until a certain time has passed.
that stuff belongs in 0.0
and yes, it STILL is piracy in 0.0, the fact that its against the "law" in empire, is not what makes it piracy.
~~~~~
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
~~William Blake |
Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:29:00 -
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"Tear"
I will concede that sometimes this may harm people who had a legitimate excuse for attacking someone... but I think more of the times its inappropriate nonconsentual PvP that could in some cases even be reasonably called greifing.
what about the, possibly, hours of effort that was taken from the victim, in some cases at least, for no reason but the pirate feels like blowing stuff up?
empire-vs-not empire. in empire those things are illegal, thus its reasonable to have to avoid official type entitys until a certain time has passed.
that stuff belongs in 0.0
and yes, it STILL is piracy in 0.0, the fact that its against the "law" in empire, is not what makes it piracy.
~~~~~
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
~~William Blake |
Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:38:00 -
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Why would a sentry gun around a station of a minmatar corp i have a great standing with gank me for killing some silly amarr?
I'm sorry it makes no sense from either an RP or gameplay point of view
The 15 minute wait is boring and after you've sat thru it there is no comeback from the person you've just pwned. Changing the rules so sentrys only attack if aggresive acts take place infront of them and upping the flagging time make sense to me, even if just to allow our "customers" to respond with some futile gesture of resistance.
On a side note Sec hits are already a large enough punishment without having to sit and stare at doonwongs ships arse.
YAAAAARRRRRRR
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:38:00 -
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Why would a sentry gun around a station of a minmatar corp i have a great standing with gank me for killing some silly amarr?
I'm sorry it makes no sense from either an RP or gameplay point of view
The 15 minute wait is boring and after you've sat thru it there is no comeback from the person you've just pwned. Changing the rules so sentrys only attack if aggresive acts take place infront of them and upping the flagging time make sense to me, even if just to allow our "customers" to respond with some futile gesture of resistance.
On a side note Sec hits are already a large enough punishment without having to sit and stare at doonwongs ships arse.
YAAAAARRRRRRR
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Crowley
Why would a sentry gun around a station of a minmatar corp i have a great standing with gank me for killing some silly amarr?
I'm sorry it makes no sense from either an RP or gameplay point of view
The 15 minute wait is boring and after you've sat thru it there is no comeback from the person you've just pwned. Changing the rules so sentrys only attack if aggresive acts take place infront of them and upping the flagging time make sense to me, even if just to allow our "customers" to respond with some futile gesture of resistance.
On a side note Sec hits are already a large enough punishment without having to sit and stare at doonwongs ships arse.
YAAAAARRRRRRR
I dont think anymore has to be said really 
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Crowley
Why would a sentry gun around a station of a minmatar corp i have a great standing with gank me for killing some silly amarr?
I'm sorry it makes no sense from either an RP or gameplay point of view
The 15 minute wait is boring and after you've sat thru it there is no comeback from the person you've just pwned. Changing the rules so sentrys only attack if aggresive acts take place infront of them and upping the flagging time make sense to me, even if just to allow our "customers" to respond with some futile gesture of resistance.
On a side note Sec hits are already a large enough punishment without having to sit and stare at doonwongs ships arse.
YAAAAARRRRRRR
I dont think anymore has to be said really
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