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Neo Omni
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:06:00 -
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I'm crawling along in my little itty moving some cargo. I'm approaching a gate and during that time some half dozen or so ships zip past me doing warp to 0.
What's the rush?
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:12:00 -
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Get out of the forums
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TimMc
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.28 13:50:00 -
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I do all the time. No point being there if no one is gonna kill you.
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Kylazin Zul
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:06:00 -
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That's when its sammich makin time!
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Nidel Shawen
Caldari
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Neo Omni
I'm crawling along in my little itty moving some cargo. I'm approaching a gate and during that time some half dozen or so ships zip past me doing warp to 0.
What's the rush?
Yes. but... if you were sat at your screen watching your hauler on auto pilot, would it not make sense to manually warp at 0 no rush but if you get were you are going quicker... you.... well.... get were your going quicker !!!
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Get out of the forums
You should take some of your own advice pal. Next!
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Robinete Broadhead
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:47:00 -
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since I run 3 accounts, yes I use it....no rush here
Yes, I am an ALT in a NOOB Corp.
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Sebastien Chevalier
Gallente
The Trendy Squid Trading Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:51:00 -
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Not only do I use autopilot in highsec, but I also see plenty of other people doing so too.
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Arvald
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.03.28 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 28/03/2009 14:58:54
Originally by: Nidel Shawen
Originally by: Neo Omni
I'm crawling along in my little itty moving some cargo. I'm approaching a gate and during that time some half dozen or so ships zip past me doing warp to 0.
What's the rush?
Yes. but... if you were sat at your screen watching your hauler on auto pilot, would it not make sense to manually warp at 0 no rush but if you get were you are going quicker... you.... well.... get were your going quicker !!!
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Get out of the forums
You should take some of your own advice pal. Next!
but....then...how am i supposed to sip on my bacardi and coke if my hands on the mouse?
ok but seriously, next person that derails my thread gets a railroad spike shoved through their neck |
dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.03.28 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Edited by: Arvald on 28/03/2009 14:58:54
Originally by: Nidel Shawen
Originally by: Neo Omni
I'm crawling along in my little itty moving some cargo. I'm approaching a gate and during that time some half dozen or so ships zip past me doing warp to 0.
What's the rush?
Yes. but... if you were sat at your screen watching your hauler on auto pilot, would it not make sense to manually warp at 0 no rush but if you get were you are going quicker... you.... well.... get were your going quicker !!!
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Get out of the forums
You should take some of your own advice pal. Next!
but....then...how am i supposed to sip on my bacardi and coke if my hands on the mouse?
Take the other hand off your ****?
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Shogun Archer
Gallente
Brotherhood of Soban
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:42:00 -
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I only use autopilot in high sec when I have an Iteron Mark 5 full of Megacyte. I then go make a sammich, turn on some Oprah and have the excitement of my life wondering if I'll make it to where I'm going but not looking at the monitor for at least 20 minutes.
It's kinda like that game you play with a knife, your hand and a nice wooden tabletop.
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Trig Onami
Caldari
Onami Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:44:00 -
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To be constructive, it's human nature to be first.
For example, "IBTL" is like warping to 0, but in a forum. CCP usually autopilot to the locking of a troll thread. While some users feel the need to be there first and perhaps feel that they contributed something useful in the process.
As for in space, being there first and jumping first is common because it's a force of habit for those who wish to survive while travelling low sec. Now matter how fast people reach the jumpgate and how fast they are at right clicking it and selecting "Jump", there's always a chance of getting ganked.
Also, the time it takes to fly just about any ship to the gate from where autopilot decides is appropriate to disengage warp drive is ridiculously long, and not many people on earth want to be last, especially in a video game.
There's a million valid reasons why people want to be first. But the universal reason is human nature.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:53:00 -
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I almost always use WTZ because most things I do are at the computer anyway, so having to click a button in EVE every 30 seconds or so is not really an issue.
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DesuSigs |
Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:40:00 -
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The full answer? No.
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Clementina
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:40:00 -
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I imagine that people who are in player corporations with active wars do not use autopilot if they know what's good for them.
People in NPC corporations use it more, particularly for the safe parts of safe space (i.e. not in Jita or Rens) due to the lack of risk of getting ganked, and the ability to do something else while flying.
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Jabezhane
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:45:00 -
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I only use AP if I'm in a interceptor with 17 jumps to go.
Maybe if I have a long way to go and the ship has a 400mps standard speed.
Not much otherwise. Oh I remember the days before WTZ. What a chore.
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Celeritas 5k
Caldari
Destry's Lounge
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Trig Onami
Edited by: Trig Onami on 28/03/2009 16:48:11
To be constructive, it's human nature to be first.
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Using WTZ has **** all to do with human nature, and everything to do with the fact that it's both a lot faster than autopiloting, and that slowboating to the gate is a great opportunity to get ganked... And wanting to spend less time moving from place to place in an internet spaceship game is entirely logical.
Originally by: Trig Onami
As for in space, being there first and jumping first is common because it's a force of habit for those who wish to survive while travelling low sec. No matter how fast people reach the jumpgate and how fast they are at right clicking it and selecting "Jump", there's always a chance of getting ganked.
Erm. Have you ever actually been in lowsec? Or engaged another player in a real fight?
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:08:00 -
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The only time I use the autopilot is when i'm afk transporting basic consumable stuff with a trade alt on a minimised client whilst I do somethng that requires my focus on the active client. Stick a rack of extenders on a Badger II or Mammoth and you will be safe from all but the moast dedicated of suicide gankers as long as its just normal ammo and replacement mods you are transporting. Big ticket items always get the manually piloted unscannable corp bay 250k ehp Orca of Doom treatment or the standard cov ops if its small like some deadspace mods or hg implants.
Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Trig Onami
To be constructive, it's human nature to be first.
Human Nature is a straw man. The ultimate, universal explanation for any human behavior. It says nothing about the functionality, causality and motivation of the human. It is a simple excuse to stay ignorant and apathetic to all the depravity, stupidity and destruction around yourself.
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:58:00 -
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I only use it if my ship is fast....at least as fast as a shuttle AND if im lazy..for anything bigger etc Ill use WTZ because I dislike having to pilot 99% of my time to another system
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crockett EXE
Minmatar
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:06:00 -
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Man I can't see the point... I tried to use AP on my hauler last night for a supply run. It was about 30 jumps though high sec. I stuck it on auto went off for about 20 to 30 mins and the ship still had 21 jumps to go when I came back.
It might not be so bad in something that has a decent speed, but the fact Auto doesn't warp to 0 pretty much makes it useless for anything big and slow.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:10:00 -
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Autopilot is useful JUST in this case:
- You are not in a war (or you are in NPC)
- Your route doesnt include any lowsec or 0.0 system
- You need to go afk for more than 3 minutes
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: crockett EXE
It might not be so bad in something that has a decent speed, but the fact Auto doesn't warp to 0 pretty much makes it useless for anything big and slow.
Its not useless with bigger ships as long as you don't rely on them for critical time sensitive deliveries. If one of my bases of operation is running low on consumables I know well ahead of time so on some day before it runs out I send a resupply run on a minimised client. I then go enjoy some rl for a while and by the time I am back the next week or months supplys are waiting in system for me.
Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman |
xNatteFrosTx
Gallente
XIII Interstellar Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:38:00 -
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if im in hisec whit a ship that does minimum 700m/s then i might use ap.
but generally using ap just takes to damn f****** long time.
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2009.03.28 20:57:00 -
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Usually I'm on semi-autopilot.
Warp to zero manually, then add the gate you're buzzing to as 'first gate' and activate autopilot.
You'll land at zero and immediately jump through, then it waits for 30 secs cloaked till you give the next warp to zero command. Meanwhile, I do other stuff at the pc.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.28 21:45:00 -
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I used to work on full autopilot in highsec. Still WTZ manually but since I was taking absolutely no notice of the game, my brain was on AP.
Part of the reason I don't play any more, it got boring.
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
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Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.28 21:46:00 -
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Yes. But only when I'm traveling through the highest of high-sec and not carrying anything worth a great deal of isk.
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Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.28 21:50:00 -
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I saw someone using autopilot in 0.0 the other day, maybe it is the new thing?
Originally by: CCP Whisper
So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Trig Onami
Caldari
Onami Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.28 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Trig Onami on 28/03/2009 21:51:56
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Trig Onami
To be constructive, it's human nature to be first.
Human Nature is a straw man. The ultimate, universal explanation for any human behavior. It says nothing about the functionality, causality and motivation of the human. It is a simple excuse to stay ignorant and apathetic to all the depravity, stupidity and destruction around yourself.
You missed the point I was trying to convey.
Let me show you and the other person who responded to my post another example:
You both will respond to this post, not because I'm telling you to, but because you want the last word; thus, you will feel like you win the argument, which is similar to being in "First" place. Hence, human nature.
I would autopilot if it WTZ. Not sure why there's two options, when it's fairly clear that most people will try to avoid the useless one.
The solution would be to autopilot to zero. This will never happen, so I won't ask for it.
EVE. The most ambitious project on earth. |
Karma
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.03.28 22:34:00 -
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I usually autopilot...
the exceptions is when I'm in a dreadful hurry,
or if I'm carrying something that would attract suicide gankers.
patience. I haz it.
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Kiviar
Caldari
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.03.28 23:03:00 -
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I'm using it right now so I can troll the forums while I fly.
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Bloodmoney is recruiting
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Agor Dirdonen
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Posted - 2009.03.29 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Trig Onami
The solution would be to autopilot to zero. This will never happen, so I won't ask for it.
And it rightfully shouldn't happen.... right now there are two options that each have their advantage and their disadvantage. The nice thing is that these are perfectly complimentary: the disadvantage of one option is the advantage of the other and vice versa. You can't have it any clearer then that.
Anyway, if people would ask and get WTZ on autopilot, why don't they go one step further and ask to simply be placed in the other station without having to undock, warp and jump all together? It saves time, it's easy, less risk so why not?
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.03.29 11:56:00 -
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media player classic home cinema blah doesnt run smoothly here anymore since apochribba. i have to set both min/max priorities in order to be able to navigate through a vid.
if i just dont have to see the pink guardian....
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Metalcali
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.29 12:28:00 -
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I only auto when I'm reading something, searching for something in market/contracts, etc. but wtz when nothing is happening. All depends on what the person is doing honestly.
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Sweaty Minge
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:56:00 -
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/me does. I have a life to lead.
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Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:57:00 -
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No, using wtz through low-sec "shorter" route is so much quick than turning on autopilot and going afk to make a cup of tea for 2 hours while I pretend to do other stuff but really I have one eye on my screen to check im not being ganked by a hisec campernoob.
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Completely UnAmused
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:59:00 -
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I doez it allz da timee when I haulin 20bajillion isk worth of stufz to Renzs??!?3 I likez to watch allz dah backgroun goe bi.
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Ranik Sandaris
Caldari
The Centurions
Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:35:00 -
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BECAUSE OF FALCON
Zoom Zoom |
Fifenren
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Posted - 2009.03.31 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ranik Sandaris
BECAUSE OF FALCON
NO U!!!
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:20:00 -
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AP should only be available in lowsec and 0.0 imho. 
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Alora Venoda
GalTech
Whiskey Creek Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:46:00 -
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if there is enough lag after you enter a system you can issue a WTZ command before the autopilot warps
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Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
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