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Firkragg Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.08 14:50:00 - [31] bugs in my eve?
Mitch Taylor Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.04.08 20:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Unfamed II Some nights back I was listening to dark rising ts how one of them bragged about doing this for a week now. He seemed to be pretty proud. Just saying. I have learned to take anything I hear on our ts highly dubiously. The Dark is Rising...
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.04.08 21:33:00 - [33] This 'cloak bug' is lame and should be fixed, same as 'high standings bug'. But both of bugs does not have really big effect on how fw is going to end. It may be easier to capture plexes, but both are useless when enemy enteres plex and start to capture it.
Atraxerxes Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.09 03:59:00 - [34] I haven't tried this but if indeed this is the case I can't even begin to say how much CCP has dropped teh ball with FW. AX "Green isn't a good color for us. I think we'll paint this region BLUE."
Peter Wheatstraw Gallente Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:04:00 - [35] It would seem to me that the simple fix to this is very straightforward, logical and really beyond reasonable argument; a plex can not be capped by opposition unless and until the timer has run down AND all the NPC rats are dispatched. If you can speedtank AND kill the rats, good for you! If you can cloak AND kill the rats, minmitar slaves will line up to bear your children. Bottom line, opposition needs to eliminate the enemy, not just sit there hiding from them or running from them for some set period of time.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:11:00 - [36] Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 09/04/2009 15:11:39 Originally by: Peter Wheatstraw It would seem to me that the simple fix to this is very straightforward, logical and really beyond reasonable argument; a plex can not be capped by opposition unless and until the timer has run down AND all the NPC rats are dispatched. If you can speedtank AND kill the rats, good for you! If you can cloak AND kill the rats, minmitar slaves will line up to bear your children. Bottom line, opposition needs to eliminate the enemy, not just sit there hiding from them or running from them for some set period of time. Wise man speaks truth. Edit : Your sig made me laugh out loud at work.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:56:00 - [37] What is this 'bug' exactly?
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.10 04:37:00 - [38] I seriously hope this is only a bug. Because it is the exact opposite of what needs to happen to plexes. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Squidly	Posted - 2009.04.13 01:22:00 - [39] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I seriously hope this is only a bug. Because it is the exact opposite of what needs to happen to plexes. Its no bug the devs had to come up with a way for the faildari to capture plexes so this is the solution they can already run away from the gall rats long enough to cap a plex but even that was too hard it seems so the devz being so pro caldari and anti gallente came up with this opps-we-made-mistake so the caldari could cloaky plex with impunities becuz they fail at regular plex and the always run like girls from fleet battle unless they outnumber 10 to one
Angry Fist Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:27:00 - [40] Alas, I just tested this after the latest patch and the cloaking trick does seem to work. I've reported it and hopefully we'll get a definitive answer on it's exploitiness soon. It's hard enough to motivate pilots to plex as it is, but this just kills it stone dead.
Vincent Death Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2009.04.16 23:14:00 - [41] Originally by: Squidly Its no bug the devs had to come up with a way for the faildari to capture plexes so this is the solution they can already run away from the gall rats long enough to cap a plex but even that was too hard it seems so the devz being so pro caldari and anti gallente came up with this opps-we-made-mistake so the caldari could cloaky plex with impunities becuz they fail at regular plex and the always run like girls from fleet battle unless they outnumber 10 to one Because no-one in the Gallente militia is cloak-plexing. The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism.
Teras Menac Gallente Action Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 23:53:00 - [42] This could actually be solved by having a plex be a small POS where you put up a small POS to seize it. Let the faction provide it. The idea that players need to fund the war effort for the empires is stupid in and of itself. But give some kind of 'flag' that can be placed essentially. Just orbitting a timer is ******ed beyond belief. I couldn't believe how cheesy that was the first time I ran a plex.
Snake O'Donell Gallente Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:09:00 - [43] Anyone know if this bug was fixed with the latest patch?
AshenShugar01 Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.17 09:25:00 - [44] They didnt fix it, confirm cloaked plexing still runs the clock. :( I've seen lots of squids doing it, as well as a few of our guys too. Cant say I'm happy about it but that seems to be the way it is.... Makes plexing pretty 'soft' i must say ....
Val Erian Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.04.17 12:19:00 - [45] Nope, I tested it and its not fixed. Did have some interesting new twists tho. a Caldari militia came to the timer while it was running cloaked and it started runnning for him instead of stopping for both. There are a couple of other things that dont happen correctly in the plexs while cloaked to. Real issue is that it was reported to CCP weeks ago. They obviously do not care.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.04.17 13:22:00 - [46] insert profanity here ---
Squidly	Posted - 2009.04.17 14:16:00 - [47] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 17/04/2009 13:30:29 insert profanity here I'm at it, making some direct phone calls now as angry mails do not seem to help. Oh PLEASE. Counting on YOU to get anything worthwhile done is futile. All you seem to be good for, besides sitting next to a button in a hostile system capping plexes while painting your nails thanks to "standings" keeping you from being targeted by the rats, is a constant wailing and moaning about how you don't get enough "respect" and how you aren't just adored and worshiped to a level of your liking. The entire community will be oh-so-blissfully-glad when your tenure as "CSM" has ended and we can get someone who will represent us without a narcissistic agenda.
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah I'm at it, making some direct phone calls now as angry mails do not seem to help. You are so horribly disingenuous Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Droog 1	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:54:00 - [49] CCP knew about this a long time ago and they still haven't fixed it or declared it an exploit. Lame.
Droog 1	Posted - 2009.04.17 16:57:00 - [50] Edited by: Droog 1 on 17/04/2009 16:57:17 Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 17/04/2009 13:30:29 insert profanity here I'm at it, making some direct phone calls now as angry mails do not seem to help. Ask them to fix the way standings work in plexes as well. You know what I'm talking about.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.04.17 20:25:00 - [51] Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 17/04/2009 20:27:15 Originally by: Droog 1 Ask them to fix the way standings work in plexes as well. You know what I'm talking about. Actually, I did. And they said that it is working as intended. Makes perfect sense too. 1) NPCs dont want to engage capsuleers unless they have to (CCPs explanation). 2) It takes months to grind the standing back from minus whatever it is after all the promotions you get, so the faction would surely recognize all your hard work. 3) Defenders can just sit at the beacon too and don't have to deal with 'invading' spawns (maybe that should be changed). 4) The Caldari and Minmatar can (solo)speedtank almost everything in a T1 frigate, while the Amarr and Gallente need to use duo-inties or assault frigs. ---
The Jackhammer Unity Thru Aggression Unity Thru Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.17 22:24:00 - [52] Edited by: The Jackhammer on 17/04/2009 22:28:05 Show FW some love CCP .... Mmmmm, The Jackhammer Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Astria Tiphareth Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.04.18 11:45:00 - [53] Ridiculous that this bug hasn't been fixed yet. Speed tanking a plex, whilst potentially irritating for those unable to do it, still offers the opportunity for someone else to come along and kill the person running the plex. Doing it cloaked is just plain broken. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... Environmental Effects
Droog 1	Posted - 2009.04.18 11:47:00 - [54] Edited by: Droog 1 on 18/04/2009 11:58:02 Edited by: Droog 1 on 18/04/2009 11:54:46 Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 17/04/2009 20:27:15 Originally by: Droog 1 Ask them to fix the way standings work in plexes as well. You know what I'm talking about. Actually, I did. And they said that it is working as intended. Makes perfect sense too. No it doesn't. NPCs in Complexes should attack anyone who is not in their Faction. Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah 1) NPCs dont want to engage capsuleers unless they have to (CCPs explanation). Surely NPCs should, at least, engage capsuleers in the opposite Militia as opposed to some random neutral. You have joined State Protectorate and are therefore a traitor to the Gallente. The Gallente Navy should shoot you on sight. Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah 2) It takes months to grind the standing back from minus whatever it is after all the promotions you get, so the faction would surely recognize all your hard work. That's your opinion. Mine is that standings shouldn't be counted when you join a Militia because it results in lame tactics that you and others employ to gain more Medals and Occupancy. You should be seen as a traitor and treated as such. Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah 3) Defenders can just sit at the beacon too and don't have to deal with 'invading' spawns (maybe that should be changed). That's because the defenders are part of the same Faction/Militia as the NPCs in the plex. Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah 4) The Caldari and Minmatar can (solo)speedtank almost everything in a T1 frigate, while the Amarr and Gallente need to use duo-inties or assault frigs. What does that have to do with people abusing standings to gain Occupancy and Medals? I don't see how players in the Gallente Militia can shoot you but the NPCs won't. Anybody not involved in abusing the standings can see the problem. Why can't you? You have an incredibly selfish view on this subject which is hardly surprising seeing as how it benefits you. I can't wait until your time in the CSM is up and you return to the pre CSM Ank.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.04.18 12:48:00 - [55] While expected, the lack of FW love is sad. Still don't know exactly what the standings trick is, but participating in Faction *War* without having to fight is just wrong. Finally, someone should make a really cool sig for me.
Peter Wheatstraw Gallente Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.04.19 11:46:00 - [56] Edited by: Peter Wheatstraw on 19/04/2009 11:50:26 Originally by: Louis deGuerre While expected, the lack of FW love is sad. Still don't know exactly what the standings trick is, but participating in Faction *War* without having to fight is just wrong. The "trick" is this: If your standings with the enemy faction are high enough ( over +2, I have been told ), you can go into an enemy plex and sit on the button while the enemy NPC utterly ignore you, no cloak needed. If no actual enemy FW player happens along while you are doing this, you will sucessfully close plex after plex with absolutely zero risk. Sorta shoots the "risk vs reward" theme of the game squarely in the left arse cheek, don't it? And we have been told by our CSM, who has used this tactic to obtain the highest medal levels now in two seperate warring factions, that it is "working as intended". If that is realy the case, then I would suggest Caldari and Amarr FW pilots immediatly go and run missions for Sisters of Eve, thus gaining the required "don't shoot" standings with both the Gallente and the Minmitar militia so that the entire Caldari and Amarr FW pilot base can avail themselves of this "working as intended" mechanic. Gallente and Minmitar pilots, sadly, you are SOL, because no such 3rd party loophole exists affording you the same oppourtunity regarding the Caldari and Amarr factions, you are forever borked against them. So much, also, for any semblance of "balance". Is it any wonder that the general pod pilot community sees FW as fail? It is as the Emperor's New Clothes. Come, now, CCP. The "fixes" are obvious and simple. 1. Make capping plexes profit with Loyalty Points. 2. Make capping enemy plexes reqire the elimination of the enemy NPC. 3. ( Bonus Item ) Make non-FW pilots who engage in aggression inside a plex go GCC to all FW pilots for 30 days. ( wishful thinking )
Ten Bulls Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.19 12:38:00 - [57] Originally by: Peter Wheatstraw Gallente and Minmitar pilots, sadly, you are SOL, because no such 3rd party loophole exists affording you the same oppourtunity regarding the Caldari and Amarr factions, you are forever borked against them. Ammatar derived standings are +7.2 to Amarr, and +3.6 to Caldari
Peter Wheatstraw Gallente Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.04.19 12:51:00 - [58] Originally by: Ten Bulls Originally by: Peter Wheatstraw Gallente and Minmitar pilots, sadly, you are SOL, because no such 3rd party loophole exists affording you the same oppourtunity regarding the Caldari and Amarr factions, you are forever borked against them. Ammatar derived standings are +7.2 to Amarr, and +3.6 to Caldari If your adjusted standings with Amarr AND Caldari are below -2, you can NOT run missions for either, and are forevermore borked with both factions. BUT You can be a full -10 after adjustments with Gallente and/or Minmitar, and you can run missions for Sisters of Eve and fully restore standings. This is not news, it has been the subject and complaint of many a post and topic. If one were conspiracy minded, one could see a bit of favoritism by CCP to certain factions, and against certain factions, in nearly every aspect of the game. If one were conspiracy minded, of course.
Ten Bulls Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.20 02:05:00 - [59] Originally by: Peter Wheatstraw Originally by: Ten Bulls Ammatar derived standings are +7.2 to Amarr, and +3.6 to Caldari If your adjusted standings with Amarr AND Caldari are below -2, you can NOT run missions for either, and are forevermore borked with both factions. BUT You can be a full -10 after adjustments with Gallente and/or Minmitar, and you can run missions for Sisters of Eve and fully restore standings. If you are -10 with Amarr and Caldari you can still run missions for Ammatar and fully restore standings.
Carnelian X	Posted - 2009.04.20 03:16:00 - [60] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 17/04/2009 20:27:15 Originally by: Droog 1 Ask them to fix the way standings work in plexes as well. You know what I'm talking about. Actually, I did. And they said that it is working as intended. Wow Just Wow Two Time CSM member with her arm right up to the shoulder in obvious imabalance which this time happens to be in her favour. Who would have though it These people need to be removed from positions of power over the rest of us ASAP. There also needs to be an official method of impeaching these people once they have been voted in.

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