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Damajink	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:51:00 - [181] Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 22:23:50 Only asking questions cause I still have some friends in Curse Does every corp have to pay the tax when they mine? Does it also apply to refining NPC loot? If not, wont the corps youre trying to tax just move to chaining npcs, selling the commander loot, and refining the basic mods to build with? Does it take a council vote to buy someone a ship with the minerals? Does the tax apply everywhere, or only to minerals mined in Curse claimed territory? Is there anyone monitoring these corps to make sure theyre complying? From how I understand it, the POS will be taken over by a puppet corp and the tax will be set to the station - how it will work on NPC held stations I don't know. As for how it will work, I'm generally in favour, but there will need to be some sort of defence force in order to actually protect the people who were mining - there have been a couple of situations where there was no defence fleet available to repel incursions.
Damajink	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:51:00 - [182] Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 22:23:50 Only asking questions cause I still have some friends in Curse Does every corp have to pay the tax when they mine? Does it also apply to refining NPC loot? If not, wont the corps youre trying to tax just move to chaining npcs, selling the commander loot, and refining the basic mods to build with? Does it take a council vote to buy someone a ship with the minerals? Does the tax apply everywhere, or only to minerals mined in Curse claimed territory? Is there anyone monitoring these corps to make sure theyre complying? From how I understand it, the POS will be taken over by a puppet corp and the tax will be set to the station - how it will work on NPC held stations I don't know. As for how it will work, I'm generally in favour, but there will need to be some sort of defence force in order to actually protect the people who were mining - there have been a couple of situations where there was no defence fleet available to repel incursions.
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:26:00 - [183] Originally by: Damajink there have been a couple of situations where there was no defence fleet available to repel incursions. Lots of good Tech2 stuff. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.24 02:26:00 - [184] Originally by: Damajink there have been a couple of situations where there was no defence fleet available to repel incursions. Lots of good Tech2 stuff. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:16:00 - [185] Why give 20% to a leadership that is not going to defend you (its not fun to defend CA space) and does not respect you (they claim your contributing stuff all to the alliance), so they could have their PVP fun. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:16:00 - [186] Why give 20% to a leadership that is not going to defend you (its not fun to defend CA space) and does not respect you (they claim your contributing stuff all to the alliance), so they could have their PVP fun. "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Flame ALT	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:27:00 - [187] Originally by: Primer Xenius Why give 20% to a leadership that is not going to defend you (its not fun to defend CA space) and does not respect you (they claim your contributing stuff all to the alliance), so they could have their PVP fun. DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING
Flame ALT	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:27:00 - [188] Originally by: Primer Xenius Why give 20% to a leadership that is not going to defend you (its not fun to defend CA space) and does not respect you (they claim your contributing stuff all to the alliance), so they could have their PVP fun. DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING
Jovian Strain	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:45:00 - [189] Quote: DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING ROFL..got to love how emotional CA gets Since you loved it so much, let me turn it into a dialogue for you. CA PVPER (MASTER): We lost some ships, so all CA corps will now pay us 20% of your refining! CA MINER (PLEB): Oh..where did you lose those ships? A tax? CA PVPER (MASTER): In FA space and other regions, you don't need to know. Anyhow, we will be retaking all the stations under our corp tag and will be collecting this tax because all you tossers do its mine minerals. CA MINER (PLEB): Can you at least defend CA space where we mine? CA PVPER (MASTER): Useless miner! Defending CA space is not fun. We will go where it is fun! Your on your own here but remember this. The more you mine the more fun we have! CA MINER (PLEB): hmmm...this sounds unfair? :( CA PVPER (MASTER): DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING XETIC carebear
Jovian Strain	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:45:00 - [190] Quote: DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING ROFL..got to love how emotional CA gets Since you loved it so much, let me turn it into a dialogue for you. CA PVPER (MASTER): We lost some ships, so all CA corps will now pay us 20% of your refining! CA MINER (PLEB): Oh..where did you lose those ships? A tax? CA PVPER (MASTER): In FA space and other regions, you don't need to know. Anyhow, we will be retaking all the stations under our corp tag and will be collecting this tax because all you tossers do its mine minerals. CA MINER (PLEB): Can you at least defend CA space where we mine? CA PVPER (MASTER): Useless miner! Defending CA space is not fun. We will go where it is fun! Your on your own here but remember this. The more you mine the more fun we have! CA MINER (PLEB): hmmm...this sounds unfair? :( CA PVPER (MASTER): DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING XETIC carebear
Ca0 Ca0	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:18:00 - [191] Originally by: sutty To be honest I can see where curse is comming from, the miners dont really contribute to the pvp side, so why shouldn't they in some other way. This way is through a 20% tax. It makes perfect sense that in times of war everyone has to do there bit to keep going. This will proberly get locked, just wanted to say my bit Haa they are late to the table with that one, TPS been doing that for 2 months now.
Ca0 Ca0	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:18:00 - [192] Originally by: sutty To be honest I can see where curse is comming from, the miners dont really contribute to the pvp side, so why shouldn't they in some other way. This way is through a 20% tax. It makes perfect sense that in times of war everyone has to do there bit to keep going. This will proberly get locked, just wanted to say my bit Haa they are late to the table with that one, TPS been doing that for 2 months now.
HavokTBP	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:28:00 - [193] Originally by: Jovian Strain Quote: DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING ROFL..got to love how emotional CA gets Since you loved it so much, let me turn it into a dialogue for you. CA PVPER (MASTER): We lost some ships, so all CA corps will now pay us 20% of your refining! CA MINER (PLEB): Oh..where did you lose those ships? A tax? CA PVPER (MASTER): In FA space and other regions, you don't need to know. Anyhow, we will be retaking all the stations under our corp tag and will be collecting this tax because all you tossers do its mine minerals. CA MINER (PLEB): Can you at least defend CA space where we mine? CA PVPER (MASTER): Useless miner! Defending CA space is not fun. We will go where it is fun! Your on your own here but remember this. The more you mine the more fun we have! CA MINER (PLEB): hmmm...this sounds unfair? :( CA PVPER (MASTER): DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING OMG I laughed so hard I cried. Too right, very right. Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
HavokTBP	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:28:00 - [194] Originally by: Jovian Strain Quote: DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING ROFL..got to love how emotional CA gets Since you loved it so much, let me turn it into a dialogue for you. CA PVPER (MASTER): We lost some ships, so all CA corps will now pay us 20% of your refining! CA MINER (PLEB): Oh..where did you lose those ships? A tax? CA PVPER (MASTER): In FA space and other regions, you don't need to know. Anyhow, we will be retaking all the stations under our corp tag and will be collecting this tax because all you tossers do its mine minerals. CA MINER (PLEB): Can you at least defend CA space where we mine? CA PVPER (MASTER): Useless miner! Defending CA space is not fun. We will go where it is fun! Your on your own here but remember this. The more you mine the more fun we have! CA MINER (PLEB): hmmm...this sounds unfair? :( CA PVPER (MASTER): DUDE STFU YOU KNOW NOTHING OMG I laughed so hard I cried. Too right, very right. Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:50:00 - [195] Originally by: Ca0 Ca0 the miners dont really contribute to the pvp side, so why shouldn't they in some other way. What do the PvPers contribute to the mining side? Answer honestly, considering CA space is deserted of PvPers. You're gonna tell me that CA's invasion of FA and their aiding of PA is "protecting" the miners? If I wanted smoke blown up my ass I'd buy a pack of cigs and a short length of hose. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.24 05:50:00 - [196] Originally by: Ca0 Ca0 the miners dont really contribute to the pvp side, so why shouldn't they in some other way. What do the PvPers contribute to the mining side? Answer honestly, considering CA space is deserted of PvPers. You're gonna tell me that CA's invasion of FA and their aiding of PA is "protecting" the miners? If I wanted smoke blown up my ass I'd buy a pack of cigs and a short length of hose. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Sigarni	Posted - 2004.08.24 12:05:00 - [197] I can really envision the Dual MWD Squad sitting at the gate to U3K ALL DAY doing 'defense' when they could be in A2-V ganking a load of CFS nubjes. Buy a clue miner folks. If you cant be self sufficient in 0.0 Space go back to Yulai but if you feel you can then dont pay some Tax for some make beleive defense. There is no such thing in EVE as Paid Defense. If someone wants to bust up your mining op they are gonna smash it up no many how many 'defenders' you have. Didn't you have a mining op in U3K a few weeks back with about 120 people. Ended up having a few BS ganked and then a load of your Ark cans destroyed in your 'safe' spots. If you dont like these miners in your alliance because the get ganked everyday and beef up your enemies kill lists then kick them but making out like you can defend them any better if they pay you is insulting a bunch of peoples intelligence. Look what happened when FA took over Cache (the home of the CA Ebay squad I might add) ......Charlie team or whatever your PVP wing calls itself these days abandoned them and publically declared Cache as being 'of little importance'. This is why when you choose to make an alliance its normally a good idea to make sure your other 'allied' corps have the same goals so you sing from same sheet. Letting in any Tom **** or Harry corp just to bolster your 'blob' comes back to bite you in the ass right.
Sigarni	Posted - 2004.08.24 12:05:00 - [198] I can really envision the Dual MWD Squad sitting at the gate to U3K ALL DAY doing 'defense' when they could be in A2-V ganking a load of CFS nubjes. Buy a clue miner folks. If you cant be self sufficient in 0.0 Space go back to Yulai but if you feel you can then dont pay some Tax for some make beleive defense. There is no such thing in EVE as Paid Defense. If someone wants to bust up your mining op they are gonna smash it up no many how many 'defenders' you have. Didn't you have a mining op in U3K a few weeks back with about 120 people. Ended up having a few BS ganked and then a load of your Ark cans destroyed in your 'safe' spots. If you dont like these miners in your alliance because the get ganked everyday and beef up your enemies kill lists then kick them but making out like you can defend them any better if they pay you is insulting a bunch of peoples intelligence. Look what happened when FA took over Cache (the home of the CA Ebay squad I might add) ......Charlie team or whatever your PVP wing calls itself these days abandoned them and publically declared Cache as being 'of little importance'. This is why when you choose to make an alliance its normally a good idea to make sure your other 'allied' corps have the same goals so you sing from same sheet. Letting in any Tom **** or Harry corp just to bolster your 'blob' comes back to bite you in the ass right.
Lagrange Pointe	Posted - 2004.08.24 17:37:00 - [199] Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 22:23:50 Only asking questions cause I still have some friends in Curse Does every corp have to pay the tax when they mine? Does it also apply to refining NPC loot? If not, wont the corps youre trying to tax just move to chaining npcs, selling the commander loot, and refining the basic mods to build with? Does it take a council vote to buy someone a ship with the minerals? Does the tax apply everywhere, or only to minerals mined in Curse claimed territory? Is there anyone monitoring these corps to make sure theyre complying? This raises some valid questions. Additionally, if a certain CA corp is mining in SA space is the tax due?
Lagrange Pointe	Posted - 2004.08.24 17:37:00 - [200] Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 23/08/2004 22:23:50 Only asking questions cause I still have some friends in Curse Does every corp have to pay the tax when they mine? Does it also apply to refining NPC loot? If not, wont the corps youre trying to tax just move to chaining npcs, selling the commander loot, and refining the basic mods to build with? Does it take a council vote to buy someone a ship with the minerals? Does the tax apply everywhere, or only to minerals mined in Curse claimed territory? Is there anyone monitoring these corps to make sure theyre complying? This raises some valid questions. Additionally, if a certain CA corp is mining in SA space is the tax due?

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