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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.08.24 20:50:00 -
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But then you decloak. Then you die. ------------
We come in peace. And tanks. |

hired goon
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Posted - 2004.08.24 20:50:00 -
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But then you decloak. Then you die. ------------
We come in peace. And tanks. |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:01:00 -
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Yea, I've used it against CA frigs in the u-q to hed corridor with good success.
But you won't catch everyone. And maybe 50% of the frigs doesn't use insta BM since they go so fast anyway. You can easily take them out instead by sitting where they land 15 km from the gate, though that's very dangerous to do.
We used to be 2, sitting at different sides of the gate, say one in u-q @ 36n gate and one in 36n @ u-q gate. That way, we could kill ppl going both ways, but more importantly warn the other as soon as hostiles got into the system so that we never got jumped by an enemy BS squad.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:01:00 -
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Yea, I've used it against CA frigs in the u-q to hed corridor with good success.
But you won't catch everyone. And maybe 50% of the frigs doesn't use insta BM since they go so fast anyway. You can easily take them out instead by sitting where they land 15 km from the gate, though that's very dangerous to do.
We used to be 2, sitting at different sides of the gate, say one in u-q @ 36n gate and one in 36n @ u-q gate. That way, we could kill ppl going both ways, but more importantly warn the other as soon as hostiles got into the system so that we never got jumped by an enemy BS squad.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Kehmor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:01:00 -
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I've tried it and to be honest you don't need 8. your real targets are going to be frigs and haulers whowill go down easily enough anyway. Aside from that it works just fine... just dont get too over excited.... you have to make the choice straight away whether you want their corpse or their can. My friend carrys one or two in empire aswell jsut to catch frigs and so can run his shield tank just fine aswell.
As to it being griefing isn't all pirating griefing? I don't refrain from killig someone just because they don't want to be killed. Instas are lame anyway, I use them but would ahppily sacrafise them for them to be removed from the game... 0.0 is meant to be dangerous, as is 0.4 and lower... I consider it a pirate's duty to help keep it that way.
kehmor out
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:01:00 -
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I've tried it and to be honest you don't need 8. your real targets are going to be frigs and haulers whowill go down easily enough anyway. Aside from that it works just fine... just dont get too over excited.... you have to make the choice straight away whether you want their corpse or their can. My friend carrys one or two in empire aswell jsut to catch frigs and so can run his shield tank just fine aswell.
As to it being griefing isn't all pirating griefing? I don't refrain from killig someone just because they don't want to be killed. Instas are lame anyway, I use them but would ahppily sacrafise them for them to be removed from the game... 0.0 is meant to be dangerous, as is 0.4 and lower... I consider it a pirate's duty to help keep it that way.
kehmor out
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek otherwise its just plain flat out greifing.
which, IMO should be worth getting banned. but unfortunately theres not really much of an objective way to define between "pirating" and greifing.
but I'm sure its only for use in wartime...
Instas should be banned people are warping through 0.0 in frigs with BPO's and getting them through blockades easily.. shouldn't be that way, they should be in a BS with escort if it's valuable. I say ban instas! 
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek otherwise its just plain flat out greifing.
which, IMO should be worth getting banned. but unfortunately theres not really much of an objective way to define between "pirating" and greifing.
but I'm sure its only for use in wartime...
Instas should be banned people are warping through 0.0 in frigs with BPO's and getting them through blockades easily.. shouldn't be that way, they should be in a BS with escort if it's valuable. I say ban instas! 
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: ActiveX Insta anything should be eliminated. If you cant be arsed to use an mwd, why should you get through a blockade?
Shouldnt be able to make BMs within 100 km of any gate or station.
Or even better, let the sentries fire on ppl making BMs. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000 
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:48:00 -
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Insta anything should be eliminated. If you cant be arsed to use an mwd, why should you get through a blockade?
Shouldnt be able to make BMs within 100 km of any gate or station. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000 
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: ActiveX Insta anything should be eliminated. If you cant be arsed to use an mwd, why should you get through a blockade?
Shouldnt be able to make BMs within 100 km of any gate or station.
Or even better, let the sentries fire on ppl making BMs. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000 
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:48:00 -
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Insta anything should be eliminated. If you cant be arsed to use an mwd, why should you get through a blockade?
Shouldnt be able to make BMs within 100 km of any gate or station. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000 
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:50:00 -
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or how bout just make it impossible to warp in say closer than 10km from a gate
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2004.08.24 23:50:00 -
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or how bout just make it impossible to warp in say closer than 10km from a gate
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.08.25 01:28:00 -
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I think the trick is to be in the right spot so that the SB hits the instajumper before it hits the gate. If the gate gets hit first then no damage is done to the instajumper. At least that's what I've been told.  --------------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Oveur EVE is primarily a PVP game
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.08.25 01:28:00 -
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I think the trick is to be in the right spot so that the SB hits the instajumper before it hits the gate. If the gate gets hit first then no damage is done to the instajumper. At least that's what I've been told.  --------------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: Oveur EVE is primarily a PVP game
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.25 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor or how bout just make it impossible to warp in say closer than 10km from a gate
Well if they do that, they might as well keep it at 15 km. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000 
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.25 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor or how bout just make it impossible to warp in say closer than 10km from a gate
Well if they do that, they might as well keep it at 15 km. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000 
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Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.08.25 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek I would hope such an idea would only be used in a war.
otherwise its just plain flat out greifing.
which, IMO should be worth getting banned. but unfortunately theres not really much of an objective way to define between "pirating" and greifing. but I'm sure its only for use in wartime...
ur kidding me right?
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |

Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.08.25 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek I would hope such an idea would only be used in a war.
otherwise its just plain flat out greifing.
which, IMO should be worth getting banned. but unfortunately theres not really much of an objective way to define between "pirating" and greifing. but I'm sure its only for use in wartime...
ur kidding me right?
2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage. |

Wicke
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Posted - 2004.08.25 06:49:00 -
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Hmmmm, then I vote to end Safe Spots.
/me hears the the hearts of pirates sink. Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |

Wicke
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Posted - 2004.08.25 06:49:00 -
[52]
Hmmmm, then I vote to end Safe Spots.
/me hears the the hearts of pirates sink. Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |

Xune
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Posted - 2004.08.25 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Xune on 25/08/2004 07:22:17
Originally by: Wicke Hmmmm, then I vote to end Safe Spots.
/me hears the the hearts of pirates sink.
ther are such things like moon¦s,belts... and oter stuff.
it can be a hell to find somon in a system even if he has no safespot. when im not totaly outnumberd i normaly fly the belts after ransomed/killd somon.
Search me.
when you find me you can have me.
*blow a kiss*
Xune http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/Xunecat/xune-sig.jpg |

Xune
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Posted - 2004.08.25 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Xune on 25/08/2004 07:22:17
Originally by: Wicke Hmmmm, then I vote to end Safe Spots.
/me hears the the hearts of pirates sink.
ther are such things like moon¦s,belts... and oter stuff.
it can be a hell to find somon in a system even if he has no safespot. when im not totaly outnumberd i normaly fly the belts after ransomed/killd somon.
Search me.
when you find me you can have me.
*blow a kiss*
Xune http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/Xunecat/xune-sig.jpg |

Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.25 07:52:00 -
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All you really need is one smartbomb. Half the time it lags them out a bit when they try to jump and then they get a session change, and they can't jump. Then you kill them, and they petition it, but the GM's laugh in their face.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.25 07:52:00 -
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All you really need is one smartbomb. Half the time it lags them out a bit when they try to jump and then they get a session change, and they can't jump. Then you kill them, and they petition it, but the GM's laugh in their face.
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dustBOY
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Posted - 2004.08.25 08:05:00 -
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BAH! to everything said in this thread 
Quote: A funny thing 'bout regret is that it is better to regret something u have done than to regret something u haven't -Satan
I'm gonna mine DO or die trying <--- it's not a link you fool! |

dustBOY
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Posted - 2004.08.25 08:05:00 -
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BAH! to everything said in this thread 
Quote: A funny thing 'bout regret is that it is better to regret something u have done than to regret something u haven't -Satan
I'm gonna mine DO or die trying <--- it's not a link you fool! |

The Slavetrader
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Posted - 2004.08.25 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo yeah, it works. a little too well if you ask me 
a corpmate of mine who prides himself on never being podded jumped into a .4 system in a rifter, before the screen even loaded he was dead (not just de-shipped but podded too, waking up in a cloning station)
such tactics, while valid are well......lame. 
How has this got anything to do with what Alowishus is talking about ??? You say your 'friend' jumped INTO a system and was insta podded ?? Well thats not what the topic is about. You cannot sit on a gate with SB's and get players jumping in because the spawn randomly 10-20km from gate. This smartbomb idea only gets players jumping OUT of a system
Yes of course sitting on a gate with SB's will get frigs and pods, surely you havent just thought of this ? People have been doing this for months. Whats great though is to bait them into doing it with a noob alt and then they cant jump to agression and the rest of ships jump in and gank the sucker.
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The Slavetrader
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Posted - 2004.08.25 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo yeah, it works. a little too well if you ask me 
a corpmate of mine who prides himself on never being podded jumped into a .4 system in a rifter, before the screen even loaded he was dead (not just de-shipped but podded too, waking up in a cloning station)
such tactics, while valid are well......lame. 
How has this got anything to do with what Alowishus is talking about ??? You say your 'friend' jumped INTO a system and was insta podded ?? Well thats not what the topic is about. You cannot sit on a gate with SB's and get players jumping in because the spawn randomly 10-20km from gate. This smartbomb idea only gets players jumping OUT of a system
Yes of course sitting on a gate with SB's will get frigs and pods, surely you havent just thought of this ? People have been doing this for months. Whats great though is to bait them into doing it with a noob alt and then they cant jump to agression and the rest of ships jump in and gank the sucker.
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