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A Pacifist	Posted - 2009.04.09 10:24:00 - [61] Edited by: A Pacifist on 09/04/2009 10:24:41 Might be nice to see a Local - Trade channel, and then break links/mute people linking to contracts that post in regular local.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 10:29:00 - [62] Originally by: A Pacifist Might be nice to see a Local - Trade channel, and then break links/mute people linking to contracts that post in regular local. So create one. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Lifelongnoob Caldari Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.04.09 10:57:00 - [63] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails eve is like email you get one good email from one of your friends and 100000 from people enlarging your units lol u call your genitals "units"
Lifelongnoob Caldari Final Conflict UK Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.04.09 10:59:00 - [64] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: A Pacifist Might be nice to see a Local - Trade channel, and then break links/mute people linking to contracts that post in regular local. So create one. what would the guys in Jita talk about then? half the reason why jita lags so bad is cos of all the spam
Vincent Gaines Tau Online Explorator Corp	Posted - 2009.04.09 11:00:00 - [65] Originally by: Evanade Solution: disallow linking of contracts in local asdasdfaf> Sisters Core Probe Launcher x1 1,000,000 ISK. Convo me for details!
General Carebear	Posted - 2009.04.09 12:01:00 - [66] The absolute easiest way to get CCP to do something about this is to have everyone reading this post thier own "Scam" messages in local chat all the time, thus diluting the spammers message and overloading the servers at the same time. CCP will have no choice but to react.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 12:04:00 - [67] Originally by: General Carebear The absolute easiest way to get CCP to do something about this is to have everyone reading this post thier own "Scam" messages in local chat all the time, thus diluting the spammers message and overloading the servers at the same time. CCP will have no choice but to react. Yes, let's solve a non-issue by breaking the game and ruining it for everyone… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Ariane VoxDei	Posted - 2009.04.09 12:21:00 - [68] Originally by: Gnulpie Why not .... CSPA charge for posting in local? Each member in the empire system will add the fee by 1000 isk 0.0 controlled systems can set their own CSPA -> money goes to alliance wallet Please do something about the excessive spammming. No Smacking in local could get seriously expensive that way. And imagine in large fleet engagements, with sovereingty holders setting the local fee Invading fleet talks in local... >9000b local cost, thank you, please smack us in local about the fee you just paid... And what's next? Proposing CSPA charge for forum posting? Taxing local is not the answer. Autobanning 2 weeks, no questions asked, no appeals, those who put up scam-level contracts, however, might work. You all know the sort. 10/100/1000/1000000/1000000000x deviations.
Pilk Blade.	Posted - 2009.04.09 12:21:00 - [69] Originally by: Core Admiral Originally by: Rogue Lilly All CCP would have to do is make numbers actually readable by gasp putting real punctuation between digits and making the font size larger than microscopic. This would solve a lot of the scam problems because people could clearly recognize pricing on things. ^^this. Just read through the whole thread, glad I'm not the only one going bananas over this. Do either of you actually play the game? The font for the price in contracts is plenty large, and already includes punctuation between the numbers. You don't even have to log on to see that, just scroll up in this thread. Easiest solution (IMHO) is to grab the number of digits equal to the log-base-ten of the price, modulo three, plus one. Then you get "999,999,999" -> "over 999 million" (or "999 million and change"), "99,999,999" -> "over 99 million", and my favorite, "9,999.99" -> "over 9 thousand". --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. Tyrrax's bet status: PAID!
wowtard	Posted - 2009.04.09 12:30:00 - [70] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: General Carebear The absolute easiest way to get CCP to do something about this is to have everyone reading this post thier own "Scam" messages in local chat all the time, thus diluting the spammers message and overloading the servers at the same time. CCP will have no choice but to react. Yes, let's solve a non-issue by breaking the game and ruining it for everyoneà This does raise an interesting issue. What IS the server/database load of all these accounts that are created only for spamming and scamming? Is the increased load due to these accounts worth it? Suggestions: 1. Remove ability for trial accounts to contract. They can and should be doing many many other things. Isn't that the purpose of the trial? 2. Limit the number of characters allowed to have open contracts to one per account. 3. Remove linking of contracts in local chat. Duh.

Ryusoath Orillian Minmatar INDUSTIENCE	Posted - 2009.04.09 12:49:00 - [71] a simple out of game mechanic exists for this. not being an idiot. only an idiot could fall for this.
Cherab Minmatar Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.04.09 14:54:00 - [72] Originally by: wowtard 3. Remove linking of contracts in local chat. Duh. Think that's a bit much tbh, but what about a brokers fee type of thing for linking it in local eg 0.05% of contract value. Only really hurts the spammers and scammers. Most people with genuine high value contract items sell on forums or trade channels anyway
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:11:00 - [73] Originally by: wowtard What IS the server/database load of all these accounts that are created only for spamming and scamming? What do you base this assumption on? Quote: 1. Remove ability for trial accounts to contract. They can and should be doing many many other things. Isn't that the purpose of the trial? The purpose of a trial is to allow people to try things — hence the name. Some of them might want to try contracts. Also, see above. Quote: 2. Limit the number of characters allowed to have open contracts to one per account. To what benefit?. Contracts on alt slots cannot be spammed, and without the spam, no-one will find them since the contract search effectively filters them out. So how would a scammer benfit from having those extra contracts running? Quote: 3. Remove linking of contracts in local chat. Duh. Pointless — "Selling CNR for 250mil, check bio for details"… repeat as needed. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Lupo sunrunner Wing Kong Exchange	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:13:00 - [74] Either force players upon accepting a contract to enter the amount of isk required instead of just accepting or CCP implentment a bit of extra code so that the Isk required is displayed in words aswell, the entire number in words. Sorted.
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:14:00 - [75] Originally by: A Pacifist Edited by: A Pacifist on 09/04/2009 10:24:41 Might be nice to see a Local - Trade channel, and then break links/mute people linking to contracts that post in regular local. WoW is that way ---->
big fluf	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:47:00 - [76] I am the first to admit I LOVE a good scam, some dort of clever thing like a guy infiltrating a corp and war and stuff like that.. HOWEVER , these "accidently" paying 1 million isk for 1 missle, type things are dumb. IT only takes away from teh game,.. no one whats to wade through spam in what is essensally an escapest game. - I play eve to get away from all that stuff.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 15:50:00 - [77] Originally by: big fluf no one whats to wade through spam in what is essensally an escapest game. So don't. Minimize local, use contract search. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
big fluf	Posted - 2009.04.09 16:08:00 - [78] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: big fluf no one whats to wade through spam in what is essensally an escapest game. So don't. Minimize local, use contract search. sorry, I didn't explain my self clearly, local is the place in eve where you can reach out to tother, and expand your net work. Talk , joke and other wise comunicate with random people. This is being killed by spam. We need some way of keeping local a comunication tool, .. not a spam toilet.
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.04.09 16:18:00 - [79] As long as there are IDIOTS falling for every scamm, there will be scammers. And CCP will never handle everything. C'monnnnnnnn They can't keep spamming "Send me your iskies and I'll double it" unless someone believes...
Forando Interstellar Cowards	Posted - 2009.04.09 16:27:00 - [80] Originally by: Gnulpie Why not .... CSPA charge for posting in local? Each member in the empire system will add the fee by 1000 isk 0.0 controlled systems can set their own CSPA -> money goes to alliance wallet Please do something about the excessive spammming. Haha, riiiiight! In a random system a random war wages. An General Random Smack the third is dominating local: General Random Smack> Ha ha ha.. General Random Smack> Yeah, just hug that station as if it was your mother, booo hooo... General Random Smack> Already bedtime kids? I'll be your worst nightmare then, muuuhahaha.. Three hours and a couple of random brewerages of alcoholic substance later in same random systems local chat, General Random Smack is hit with a revelation: General Random Smack> an than I said haha tu the shark fleeing becuz i awsum. HAHAHAHAH!!!! General Random Smack> so you guyus still in thar?? General Random Smack> WHAT! WHO ARE CLOSING OUR OFFICES?? GUYUS?? Sir Clever Station Hugger> Haha, we win on technicalities. You have no ISK, thus no alliance. Random Local Guy> And now, VEDLSPAR!! I think there are a few flaws in your suggestion. I can name a few Alliances, Corps and Players that wouldn't be around today, if these ideas were implemented with retroactive effect. It seems counterproductive in an MMORPG to have people use ingame money to actually socialize. That's just wrong! Enjoy, and fly safe..

Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.04.09 17:42:00 - [81] Originally by: Tippia Quote: 3. Remove linking of contracts in local chat. Duh. Pointless ù "Selling CNR for 250mil, check bio for details"à repeat as needed. Obvious alt scam spammer or what? Non-issue? lol Spamming is against the rules because it's a non-issue right? We got by just fine before without contracts. And people who wanted to scam did advertise in local sometimes, but it required effort and therefore was done with much less frequency. This issue here is frequency, not scamming by itself. It's become so braindead easy to trick people with the flawed UI that it's being done with macros FFS. Public channels are so flooded with scam spam that you can't even click fast enough to block people in some cases. NON-ISSUE THOUGH. MOVE ALONG, NOTHING TO SEE HERE. LOL Removing links in general from public channels (might as well include URLs in that too) would absolutely solve the "problem" (that being excessive spam). But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Feilamya Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.09 17:44:00 - [82] Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder As long as there are IDIOTS falling for every scamm, there will be scammers. And CCP will never handle everything. CCP could nerf idiots. Would solve a ton of problems.
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:05:00 - [83] Hi, I have an idea. If we all start doing in, and I do mean all of us, then maybe something will be done. So whatever system you are in, whereever you may play, please start spamming a spam contract over and over again, preferably one that has been completed, and let us see how it takes CCP to do something.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:06:00 - [84] Originally by: Wet Ferret Obvious alt scam spammer or what? Obvious butterfingered analphabet or what? There is nothing about either the scams or the spam that cannot be solved by what's in the game already. Quote: Non-issue? Yes, since it can already be solved. Quote: lol Spamming is against the rules because it's a non-issue right? No. But if what we were talking about here was against the rules, we'd see a lot less of it. The scams are entirely legal. The advertising is legal as well and the reason they feel like spam is because there are tons of people doing it (probably due to there being tons of fools who can't read who fall for it). If you want to see what actual spam looks like, go find your local ISK retailer… Quote: It's become so braindead easy to trick people with the flawed UI that it's being done with macros FFS. You need to be braindead to fall for these "tricks" given how easy they are to avoid — they are blatantly obvious, flawed UI or not. Quote: Public channels are so flooded with scam spam that you can't even click fast enough to block people in some cases. If they're actually spammed, then you should have no problem picking the name up — it will occur frequently enough. If it's because there are many scammers, then guess what: natural result of being in a hub. Get out of it if it bothers you that much… or just join one of the trading channels. Again, the solutions already exist — some people just seem to refuse to use them. Quote: But think about how bad this makes EVE look to new players, or really anyone who likes to use those chat channels for, you know, chat. It's terrible. When I was new, a year back, it made me think "wow — an actual bazaar". It was awesome! There are enough channels available for chat so the loss of local makes next to no difference. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Pestilent Industries	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:10:00 - [85] Any idiot who defends the other idiots spamming channels with the same crap over and over is more of an idiot than previously thought. PS - The rule breaking part is using macros and spamming. The scams are fine in and of themselves.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:20:00 - [86] Originally by: Pestilent Industries PS - The rule breaking part is using macros and spamming. The scams are fine in and of themselves. …so, have you tried reporting them? The GMs tend to answer pretty quickly to those kinds of petitions. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:23:00 - [87] Why not implement spam filters? real world solution to spam!
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:28:00 - [88] Originally by: Ephemeron Why not implement spam filters? real world solution to spam! Because that would take care of the ISK sellers, and we can't have that, now can we? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Hariya	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:34:00 - [89] Originally by: Wet Ferret Spamming is against the rules. It literally can't be. CCP set the standard limit by sounding that ACCCgHRRUUUGA! sound when you try to send your messages too fast.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.04.09 18:56:00 - [90] Edited by: Wet Ferret on 09/04/2009 18:56:40 Originally by: Hariya Originally by: Wet Ferret Spamming is against the rules. It literally can't be. CCP set the standard limit by sounding that ACCCgHRRUUUGA! sound when you try to send your messages too fast. Flooding and spamming are not the same thing. And yes spam is against the rules, even when being done by multiple players. Just ask Goonfleet. The idea is that it's against the rules for a reason, which could be simplified as "it's bad somehow" and therefore if something can be done to prevent it, then why not? Typical chat spam regulates itself as players who don't get responses stop talking, whereas scammers and bots don't stop. Removing the reason for them to spam would put an end to it. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.



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