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Core Admiral
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:02:00 -
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So, by now we've all seen the "invul II cheap, 2m" scam where the item is actually 200m or 2b.
Is it just me or is this 100 times more annoying than "double your isk" or any other scam for that matter?
as someone who makes about 100 jumps a day for my trade routes, literally every local channel is now littered with these spams. If ANYONE at CCP plays the game, I cannot believe that they aren't annoyed also and thinking of a way to prevent this scam (like the addition of "thousand" in the contract price in the last patch).
Just to be clear, I am not talking about removing scams from the game, just that it seems absurd to have to live with 100 spams a day (as though every system were jita local) just because of a UI 'exploit'
Cliffnotes: CCP *Please* do something about that specific scam-spam
just my 2 cents o/
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Sabrage
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:07:00 -
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In Eve we consider clutter and broken means of communication to be features.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:09:00 -
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eve is like email
you get one good email from one of your friends and 100000 from people enlarging your units
eve just doesnt have a good spam filter like gmail does so you have to do a bit yourself
if it is too good to be true then it is lolz
visit my blog for my adventures
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Anile8er
Solstice Systems Development Concourse Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:12:00 -
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Minimize local.......
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:18:00 -
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Spamming is against the rules.
Just too bad that 500 people spamming may not be individually accountable.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |

Benedic
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:25:00 -
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Much like all those macro barges all those macro scammers (many still spamming completed spam contracts) will go unpunished.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Benedic Much like all those macro barges all those macro scammers (many still spamming completed spam contracts) will go unpunished.
They're not all macro's. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Cash Collection
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:37:00 -
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you just got to really appreciate the 400 mil cap recharger and not whine about it. Trust me I know.
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Zelbula
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:42:00 -
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i wood like to double my isk... cause * starts dancing like chris brown * double ur pleasure, double ur fun its the right one, double mint gum, cause i been waiting my whole life, for this one night, cause its gona be me and you on the isk dance thing, cause we only have one 1isk, double ur pleasure double ur isk, forever -ever ever forever, forever on the dance floorr** (where ever u are my eve angel plese come find me :)
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.04.08 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Core Admiral Cliffnotes: CCP *Please* do something about that specific scam-spam
Absolutely. CCP needs to add a dozen new ways to spam. This way we can get some variety.
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mechtech
Entropy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 03:55:00 -
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there needs to be some kind of public block list for known spammers that you can import.
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Gossef
Caldari Nosferatu Security Force
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:09:00 -
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Or just make the block-list larger, when browsing contracts for stuff that I'm looking for I used to just blindly block anyone who had a scam contract up, untill I hit the block-list-limit...
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:10:00 -
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right click block any ad in local channel that has a link in it.
Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 6Apr09 |

Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:35:00 -
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I'm really not trolling now, and would genuinely like an answer: could someone explain what the problem here is, really? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

EmoKidWithKantana
Filthy Scum Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia I'm really not trolling now, and would genuinely like an answer: could someone explain what the problem here is, really?
Typing 1000000 comes out in text as "1 million" Typing 999999 dossen't come out of anything
therefore, people use that flaw to put up contracts for 999999999 isk for things, that with the formating we have look pretty similar to the x amount of million you usualy pay for the item in question, meaning somone not paying perfect attention might missread and pay a hilariusly high overprice for somthing
The flaw in itself is not only the stupid amount of flooding of channels this sort of "scam" leads to, but also that it makes finding "real" contracts annoying It also is somewhat fail since it takes advantage of how horrible the contract ui is to earn monney, insted of requireing player skill or social engineering |

Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: EmoKidWithKantana The flaw in itself is not only the stupid amount of flooding of channels this sort of "scam" leads to, but also that it makes finding "real" contracts annoying
And this is the part I don't understand. The spam can just be blocked or ignored. The "real" contracts can be found using the exact match search and price sorting.
So what is the problem? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:37:00 -
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tbh this "feature" and all the people going for it has made me start using the block option for the first time in 6 years. It's pretty annoying yes.
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Kahetha's Syster
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:41:00 -
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just laught at the geniuses who pay loads of money for setting up scam contracts tha (hopefully) no one accept
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Havohej
Minmatar KHM Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cash Collection you just got to really appreciate the 400 mil cap recharger...
"When your capacitor absolutely, positively MUST be recharged before the enemy neut's next cycle."
Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
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Tista
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Posted - 2009.04.08 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba tbh this "feature" and all the people going for it has made me start using the block option for the first time in 6 years. It's pretty annoying yes.
Indeed Chribba, it's been 5 years for me, i've never blocked anyone in the game... but now contracts and send me this i'll send you double back spams in every high sec system is getting a bit much:/
Tista -------------------- "this is the templar fighter used by carriers" Originaly quoted by Shania Eria.
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Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.08 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba tbh this "feature" and all the people going for it has made me start using the block option for the first time in 6 years. It's pretty annoying yes.
If you send me your ISK I can double it for you!
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Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.04.08 10:31:00 -
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Bah, why do you even use local in highsec?
If you do, and don't like the spam. Go find a nice quiet system. trust me, there are alot around. ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |

F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.04.08 10:58:00 -
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On the one hand, this goes back to the days of the 10,000.00 shuttle scams that were actually 1,000,000.00 and even more. So I wouldn't mind them at all. Because they were on the market.
But when the same stupid things invade chat, that's really annoying. And stupid. I mean, you've got means to do this sort of scam, so use it. Why pollute another section of the game with it? Probably because stupid people are stupid, and there's enough profit in this to bother with it.
Thus CCP is tasked with the question: do we make the game better to use or simply "remove" all the stupid people. That's when people enter the grey areas.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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pipvac
Sacred Templars Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 10:59:00 -
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CCP have no interest in pursuing anything operating within the game mechanic, so long as they keep paying their subscriptions.  Desperately seeking originality since the first "can I have your stuff" since 2003. |

Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba tbh this "feature" and all the people going for it has made me start using the block option for the first time in 6 years. It's pretty annoying yes.
O...M...G.... the scammers are in trouuubleeeee !!
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Crackzilla
Originally by: Core Admiral Cliffnotes: CCP *Please* do something about that specific scam-spam
Absolutely. CCP needs to add a dozen new ways to spam. This way we can get some variety.
This, I remember starting at my first one of these contracts, it took me a few minutes to see how they were doing it exactly hehe.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:13:00 -
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Ever since they removed the .00 isk on the end of the contract amount it's been happening. So instead of saying 999,999,999.99 isk, it's just 999,999,999 and people don't really look at it, accept and have just lost 1bil.
If they actually had the amount rounded on all the contracts (so it would simply say 1 Billion, or at least 999.99 Million) this wouldn't happen half as much. (And it does happen. A lot.)
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Soldat O...M...G.... the scammers are in trouuubleeeee !!
Well tbh only if they want to purchase a supercap securely as they wouldn't be able to speak to me since they're blocked... otherwise I doubt they care as I most likely wouldn't have fallen for their scams anyway 
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Anile8er Minimize local.......
this
Originally by: Tippia The "real" contracts can be found using the exact match search and price sorting.
and this
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:18:00 -
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Posted it elsewhere, but I think this is a simple solution:
Originally by: Durzel CCP should probably consider making it so that there's a seperate line on the contract which reads out the value in full, like you get on cheques:
ONE billion NINE hundred and NINETY-NINE million, NINE hundred and NINETY-NINE thousand, NINE hundred and NINETY NINE ISK
Problem solved.
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