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Rheed
We The People
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rheed on 08/04/2009 18:31:10
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox Also, how many of you do it as 'family time'. LAN parties are one of the most fun things you can do with buddies. My wife and I host one or two a year at the least. Does that mentality transfer well to a whole family? I'm not just talking eve here so does it work out for anyone to say "OK Billy, this Saturday your mom and I want to play *insert mmo here* do you want to invite some friends over?" I know there are some issues like said friend doesn't have the game or a computer, but has anyone ever done that successfully?
It is my firm belief that the key to a happy and healthy relationship with your wife/girlfriend and/or child(ren) is to NOT integrate them into your MMO's.
Meaning, I would be against them playing the same game as I do. Thankfully, my wife has absolutly no interest and by the time my little girl is old enough, odds are this game won't exist anymore.
I had an experience where I dated a girl and eventually moved in with her - who played Everquest with me... It was not a plesant experience...
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Sandor Krejaa
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:37:00 -
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I have a wife and 2 kids, and Eve proved to be a godsend for getting my gaming fix.
My best luck for gaming has always been after the wife and kids go to bed. They are not the slightest bit interested in Eve, never will be, and do get resentful if too much of my time, while they are awake is not available (I have a wife and 2 daughters, you do the math).
In traditional MMOs, playing late night in North America was a drag because all other games are multi-shard, and every timezone was in bed. That sucked, made for a solo-only play.
Then Eve came along with its single-shard, international community, as such, finding someone to group with was no longer an issue...can get them 24/7/365 now...yay single-shard.
Eve better was how undemanding Eve can be on time..that is unlike traditional MMOs, I am really not forced by game design to do anything, nor left behind as a result. So on the weeknights, I am off soling, or small grouping, then on the weekends, I get some extra time, and go run with the fleets for extended periods of time.
and the skill system is da bomb..never have to worry about being the lowest level because of my play schedule ever again. No weird level restrictions for grouping...blah, blah.
I win, family wins, CCP wins :-) ..and odds are Ill never play a 'traditional' MMO ever again.
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Morlar
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:39:00 -
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I've found that Eve is the best MMO for me. I'm married with 4 kids. I'm my son's Den Leader for Cub Scouts and I have a job that is sometimes time-demanding (Linux nerd).
The "usual suspects" on the fantasy side (EQ/EQ2/WoW/WAR) all require, IMHO, too much "grind" to stay happy. Eve supports play styles that allow you to hop on, set something up, and hop off. For instance, I'm in an Industrial Corp. We did a WH Op on Momday night and I had time to participate. (also lost my Moa. D'oh!) I skipped out on the NA Mining Op lsat night, but according to Evemon, I just made 1.5 million ISK from my active sell orders. Woot!
When I have a longer time to play, I'm exploring, looking for sites and WHs and running the occasional mission (I don't really like grinding, so one or two missions a session is my limit)
So yes, Eve + family can work.
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brakespear
Minmatar Minerva Co.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:56:00 -
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Depends on individual setups but for me, as others have stated, time management is key. Have to be in a situation where I can readily run off and get a drink of water for someone, put covers back on beds, tie son to bed so he won't try and wash his hair in the toilet bowl again etc etc -------------------------------------------------- 'people will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with 'welcome' written on it.' |
Zalinia
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Zalinia on 08/04/2009 19:00:07 I have a wife, no kids, but attending college/ working full time (which I assume partially makes up for the lack of kids ). I just play during the weekends and extended breaks, and spend the weekdays doing studies and spending time with my wife.
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Golan Cinquanteneuf
Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle Vega
My almost 10 year old ... plays gta4 .
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Slyckback
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:12:00 -
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What kinda parent wants their child to play in EVE exactly? "A dark, brutal, treacherous, violent universe filled with griefers, scammers, and goons...." Yeah, thats the playground I want my children playing in during their formative years....
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charnea
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:16:00 -
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I have a wife and small child and I find EVE the ideal mmo for a family. I still always feel like I am progressing even when I am having "family time". Skills are always training, orders are always being bought and sold, and my investments are always working for me. Having said that it does cut in to gaming time, family always comes first. Thankfully I can mine and step away to get my son or run and help my wife with something. I can't do that with any other game.
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Hopey
Gallente L.O.S.T. Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:50:00 -
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I'm a single-dad with a 17-year old daughter and, as many others have said, it's all about time-management and perspective. EvE comes second to anything and everything else in my life - parenthood, working, paying-my-bills - this all comes first. One of the things I like most about EvE is that I get in what i put out - only have 30 minutes to play? do some manufacturing/invention. got 90 minutes to play? a few minutes/scanning. My daughter is having a sleep-over with her mum? The night is mine, all mine!
you will probably find yourself without much time at all in the few months but after that EvE can fit in nicely :)
|~~~~~~~~~~~| Hopey CEO & Founder, L.O.S.T. Industries |~~~~|
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Hopey
Gallente L.O.S.T. Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: charnea I have a wife and small child and I find EVE the ideal mmo for a family. I still always feel like I am progressing even when I am having "family time". Skills are always training, orders are always being bought and sold, and my investments are always working for me. Having said that it does cut in to gaming time, family always comes first. Thankfully I can mine and step away to get my son or run and help my wife with something. I can't do that with any other game.
bingo :)
|~~~~~~~~~~~| Hopey CEO & Founder, L.O.S.T. Industries |~~~~|
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Shatner19
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Slyckback What kinda parent wants their child to play in EVE exactly? "A dark, brutal, treacherous, violent universe filled with griefers, scammers, and goons...." Yeah, thats the playground I want my children playing in during their formative years....
i think the idea of personal biological macro's is awesome.
"if you get me xxx units of veldspar tonight you can have extra desert after dinner."
"if you see someone you dont know warp into belt, run. remember no talking to strangers."
"remember son/daughter, the basics of trading is to buy low, sell high; and always check twice before accepting any sell orders or contracts."
eve might be harsh but it can teach some vital life lessons.
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Malasio
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:09:00 -
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It works out for me, I play Eve to relax late at night once the kids are asleep and I'm done with my graduate studies. Nothing beats running a few missions with my favorite brew in hand right before bed.
One day when I'm really old and no one will come talk to me because I smell disgusting and can't help it, then I'll devote the rest of my life to a 0.0 alliance and dominate all who stand in my way. For now it's about the wife and kids, they come first.
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Ironback
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:19:00 -
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When my wife and I 1st met she never heard of online gaming. After a year of marriage I made the mistake and got her to play EQ with me. I had been a 5 year vet at that time. Her playing totaly ruined the game for me.
So I ran away to SWG. After our twins were born I would play with a 5 pounder on a pillow on my lap. as they grew I found it harder and harder to devote time to play. That was when I realized what my epic fail was. I thought that my family was putting a dent in my play time. In reality it was the game putting a dent in my family time.
I gave up SWG and all other games. My boys are now two years old and I have found Eve. I wish I had found it sooner. The wife has no desire to even look at it. She quit EQ also btw.
I now play Eve when my boys go down for the night. On weekends while they take thier afternoon naps and late into the night. That is unless the wife has "other" plans for me.
So it can be done. Just live by this addage: Keep Momma happy.
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Oxystar
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem is your friend chinese? If so call child services.
wohoo. fun and cash at one hit and you wanna call child services.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:37:00 -
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As others have said, EVE is the perfect MMO when you have a family, although hardcore 0.0 gameplay might not be a good idea as it tends to be much more time-consuming. That depends on your corp, though.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:43:00 -
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its possible though not always easy
depends on what you like to do. mining all day can be easy but running pvp ops with people depending on you can be harder. scheduled pvp ops make it easier to participate.
since you might be logging in at what may not be normal times, maybe its an opportunity to get good at solo ganking ?
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Athena Tarsis
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
If it hasn't been made clear already, this is a dated, tired, inaccurate cliche' that should've died many, many years ago. :) There are heaps and heaps of established family types that play MMOs, Eve included. Young 20-somethings and/or socially inept introverts are only a portion of the gaming demographic -- my anecdotal evidence suggests it's a small portion, but your mileage may vary.
That said, if your wife is supportive of your gaming (or even games with you as mine does), then you're set. If, however, she narrows her eyes at you when you play, it's going to be a tougher road to hoe. Our kids play MMOs with us from time to time; it's really quite a treat.
In my experience, the best way to manage it is to find a game she enjoys and play it with her, cooperatively.
Good luck!
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Core Admiral
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:59:00 -
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EVE allowed me to survive through the first months after my first son was born; He had major stomach aches and could only sleep lying on me while I was seated. so, what else could I do? tv at 2am isnt great,..so I did alot of mining..
now with 2 kids, eve is pretty much the only game I can play regularly, as it allows you to afk alot (while you're on autopilot, etc) and play one-handed (you can mission by just clicking with the mouse, while the other hand holds a baby :) )
However, it hasnt done wonders on the marriage, so be cautious of that and manage wife aggro well.
I suggest cloaking to 5, and wife ECM to 5 also. I've also asked friends to come help me tank.
gl! o/
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Whip
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:12:00 -
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I think EVE is probably the best of all the MMO's to play when you have other commitments. I have a wife & two kids and love the fact that even when not playing, i'm still skilling up. I also do a bit of semi-AFK mining in high-sec on an old laptop whilst doing other things to earn a bit of extra isk :)
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Dmian
Gallente Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dmian on 08/04/2009 21:32:09
Let me quote this particulalry good dialog from "Lost in translation":
Originally by: Lost in translation Bob: It gets a whole lot more complicated when you have kids. Charlotte: It's scary. Bob: The most terrifying day of your life is the day the first one is born. Charlotte: Nobody ever tells you that. Bob: Your life, as you know it... is gone. Never to return. But they learn how to walk, and they learn how to talk... and you want to be with them. And they turn out to be the most delightful people you will ever meet in your life. Charlotte: That's nice.
This is one of my favourite quotes. And as Zedrik Cayne said before: your first months will consist mostly of waking up in the middle of the night to feed/change the baby. After, probably, three months it will imrpove a lot, until the baby makes aprox. one year (or starts to walk.) Then it will be very difficult and you'll have to raise all your things over 3 feet. ----
Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Stereotype much?
The average EVE player is 26, saying that the majority are 20 year olds who live in their moms basement is extremely ignorant/arrogant. ==================================================
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TigerXtrm
Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Once upon a time, I met a guy when I was with the privateers who's 9 year old played eve and mined for him. I thought Score! that's the way to go... Maybe it can be done. Right now I have a close friend who's wife is working on #2 and he's gone all emo and quit (again).
So, to those experienced eve players. Can one play eve, AND in fact, have a life and a family. This of course implies that you know the names of all your children, and you spend time with them not on the computer. IE they do their homework, or you play catch with them, etc.
Please try to include serious responses, though really funny ones are ok too.
The only thing I have to say about this thing is:
Are you really... REALLY... SERIOUSLY REALLY... going to let a COMPUTER GAME stand in the way of you and having kids? I mean SERIOUSLY.
For one, imagine the conversations:
"I wanna have kids..."
"Can't, sorry. Got POS refueling duty every two weeks and this enemy fleet has been knocking at our door every other day. I really don't have time for kids right now..."
If you don't want to have kids, good on ya. However do not let an internet space game be part of the decision to have kids or not. Only serious things should influence that decision... SERIOUSLY.
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Onus Mian
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:34:00 -
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I have enuogh troule finding time to play MMO's with just having a girlfriend. As long as you have an understanding woman and seperate room to play in so you don't keep her awake and drive her nuts it should be ok once the kids are asleep I reckon.
For me personally when it comes to a choice between a warm bed with my girlfriend (Long term by the way) and games I'm with the warm woman every time. Don't want to accidently neglect your partner because you're trying to make up playing time that you're kids now fill by reducing time spend with her.
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Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
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Glassback
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:42:00 -
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I have 3 kids. 1, 6 and 8.
I play solid from 20:00 to 00:00.
When you have your first, the first 3 months will be tough, but after that you will get back into a routine.
G.
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Cailais
Amarr Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:46:00 -
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It perfectly possible to play EVE and have a good family life - its just about achieving a sensible level of balance. EVE is probably the best MMO in this respect due to its skill training system - i.e you wont fall behind the curve just because you cant play in marathon stretches or at all.
I've gota 3 yr old daughter and generally get a good couple of hours online most evenings and sometimes over the weekend aswell. Treat EVE as a 'hobby' rather than an all consuming creature and you'll do fine.
C.
Originally by: Capa So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: TigerXtrm
The only thing I have to say about this thing is:
Are you really... REALLY... SERIOUSLY REALLY... going to let a COMPUTER GAME stand in the way of you and having kids? I mean SERIOUSLY.
For one, imagine the conversations:
"I wanna have kids..."
"Can't, sorry. Got POS refueling duty every two weeks and this enemy fleet has been knocking at our door every other day. I really don't have time for kids right now..."
If you don't want to have kids, good on ya. However do not let an internet space game be part of the decision to have kids or not. Only serious things should influence that decision... SERIOUSLY.
Never mentioned anything about not having kids for eve. If I didn't want to have kids I wouldn't have decided to get married and have them. I was asking because I wanted to know if it was still possible to play eve as well and have a happy life. I wanted to learn from others. If eve gets in the way it's gone. Make no mistake eve is a distant, distant priority when compared to rl. *-------------------------* PoX IS Eve!!! BOOM!!! |
Trader20
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Posted - 2009.04.09 00:51:00 -
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Noone cares, also wrong forum dumass
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Dr DeathBringer
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Posted - 2009.04.09 01:10:00 -
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If you have a wife/Gf that hates computers and computer games in general be prepared to lose one or the other. you won't keep both. If you find a a sig other that supports your gaming habits, you've found a keeper my current gf goes on the warpath the second i get on the computer for any reason.
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Lee Dalton
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.09 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Once upon a time, I met a guy when I was with the privateers who's 9 year old played eve and mined for him. I thought Score! that's the way to go... Maybe it can be done. Right now I have a close friend who's wife is working on #2 and he's gone all emo and quit (again).
So, to those experienced eve players. Can one play eve, AND in fact, have a life and a family. This of course implies that you know the names of all your children, and you spend time with them not on the computer. IE they do their homework, or you play catch with them, etc.
Please try to include serious responses, though really funny ones are ok too.
Yes, just get your priorities straight. Your family comes first, then your social life, then EVE.
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente Snake Eyes Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.09 02:30:00 -
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I think the average age of the EVE player is 27. Considerably older than other MMOs. Most of the people I know are thirtysomething or older. Many have family/kids.
EVE is probably one of the best MMO games for a family man. The offline skill training is great for when you can't be on much. There are plenty of corps in the game that have people in a similar situation and these corps typically agree that RL comes before playtime, and don't get mad if you have to bail on a PvP op or cut out for 30 minutes in the middle of a mining op.
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