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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:39:00 -
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So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Once upon a time, I met a guy when I was with the privateers who's 9 year old played eve and mined for him. I thought Score! that's the way to go... Maybe it can be done. Right now I have a close friend who's wife is working on #2 and he's gone all emo and quit (again).
So, to those experienced eve players. Can one play eve, AND in fact, have a life and a family. This of course implies that you know the names of all your children, and you spend time with them not on the computer. IE they do their homework, or you play catch with them, etc.
Please try to include serious responses, though really funny ones are ok too.
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari
International Multi-Player Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:41:00 -
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is your friend chinese? If so call child services.
 Originally by: Halkin
bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Discrodia
Gallente
Independent Miners Guild
Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:41:00 -
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*Is happy he doesn't fall into either of the OP's catagories*
I think you can. You just can't 23/7 EVE like some people do. If nothing, else, it might be something to bring your family together, like a family activity... just putting out ideas ^_^
GL either way.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Discrodia
*Is happy he doesn't fall into either of the OP's catagories*
I think you can. You just can't 23/7 EVE like some people do. If nothing, else, it might be something to bring your family together, like a family activity... just putting out ideas ^_^
GL either way.
Heh, I said "lots of people who play eve" not everyone.
It's ok, it's a man thing. heh ;-)
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem
is your friend chinese? If so call child services.
Nah he was British, and awesome. If I'm able to keep playing I fully intend to allow my kids to mine for me if they wish.
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Jonan Hannon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem
is your friend chinese? If so call child services.
Nah he was British, and awesome. If I'm able to keep playing I fully intend to allow my kids to mine for me if they wish.
Go one further, get those damn kids running courier missions a lß biological macros :)
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Haakelen
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
If I'm able to keep playing I fully intend to allow my kids to mine for me if they wish to eat.
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:53:00 -
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Yes, but you will have to join a relaxed corporation that won't expect anything from you. You may be on call for kids or babies at any time, and you may need to take a week off eve. Alot of corporations won't put up with it, especially 0.0 ones.
But there is always a way to play eve that can incorporate your lifestyle. I've found pirate corporations are extremely laid back if you want PvP, although its not very profitable once you get banned from empire so alts are useful.
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MidnightMartyr
Gallente
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:53:00 -
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I've got two. An 8 yearold and an infant, and to be quite honest I don't have much trouble playing. My wife and I just have certain agreements in place. One of us is always available to care for the kids while the other gets their game fix.
Though yes, there will be many times where you will need to drop whatever you're doing in order to tend to your child, which makes flying recons very appealing. Carefully plan your ingame actions and you should be fine.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:58:00 -
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I got one who will be 3 in June and a 2nd that is due in July. I work about 50 hrs/week and I can put in a 15~20 hours per week.
I'm never gonna be a trillionaire and I am sure no big alliance would want me. I get my isk off of manufacturing, and I get my pew-pew off of FW.
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Ana Vyr
DB - LJ Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 16:41:00 -
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Define: "play eve".
I've got a wife and two kids myself and all that goes with that. Pretty much the best you can really do with regard to MMO's is play casually after the kids are in bed. During the day, it's very tough to play (for any length of time) because you get yanked off the computer all the time by said kids and wife (and really it's a bit irresponsible to be gaming when your kids could be benefitting from your time spent with them, IMO). This tends to curtail any group activities you could do in game during those hours.
I happen to be an insomniac to some degree, so I can get a decent stretch of time in late at night most nights, but most folks need more than 5 hours of sleep a day though.
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rodensteiner
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Posted - 2009.04.08 16:42:00 -
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I got married a few months ago, and of course, don't play as much any more. I also have a new job that demands 50-60 hours a week, so of course, I play even less. Doesn't really bother me much, though.
Several of our corp members have RL girlfriends or wives/children, and they still manage to play quite a bit.
Also, my corp is headed by a husband/wife couple, works out quite well, although they don't have kids.
Honestly, talk to your significant other about it. Usually, some kind of agreement can be worked out. You just have to realize that family is in fact a priority (yes, more than important than EVE...crazy stuff, huh)
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Michelle Vega
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Posted - 2009.04.08 16:49:00 -
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My almost 10 year old mines in one display and plays gta4 in the other. All I have to do is put food infront of him and ask him to take a 10 minute break every hour. Naturally he has to do his homework first and has to go to bed on time. Also he gets enough exercise at school and on weekends he has his friends over and do other stuff than play on computers, like playing on his ps3 and stuff like that. So it works out ok, and it does wonders for the marriage since you have more time to eachother and an electronic babysitter (so to speak).
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Adeline Grey
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Posted - 2009.04.08 16:54:00 -
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I got married two years ago and now have a one year old baby. I still play Eve, but mainly only on the weekends, but sometimes I can squeeze an hour or two in after work or before bed. Having a family has definitely hurts my play time, and I won't see any benefit for at least another 4 or 5 years when I can have my little girl farm isk or mine for me while I at work. 
P.S. - To whoever said you can't do it in a 0.0 corp, that is a load of crap. This isn't WoW. People disappear from Eve all the time and as long as they communicate with their corp that they won't be around for a week or whatever, or that they are busy in rl and won't be playing mcuh for the next period of time, then everything is generally fine.
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Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.04.08 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ana Vyr
Define: "play eve".
I've got a wife and two kids myself and all that goes with that. Pretty much the best you can really do with regard to MMO's is play casually after the kids are in bed. During the day, it's very tough to play (for any length of time) because you get yanked off the computer all the time by said kids and wife (and really it's a bit irresponsible to be gaming when your kids could be benefitting from your time spent with them, IMO). This tends to curtail any group activities you could do in game during those hours.
I happen to be an insomniac to some degree, so I can get a decent stretch of time in late at night most nights, but most folks need more than 5 hours of sleep a day though.
Same thing here. I'm divorced and have custody of my 5 years old son. I play when he's asleep, usually sacrificing sleeping time.
I can't commit to a real PvP corp, so I mostly do missions and I'm focused on the industrial side of the game.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:16:00 -
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Being able to play Eve is the least of your worries when having a family - and I'll tell you that kids are infinitely more rewarding and frustrating that EVE could ever be.
I've got 2 little ones, Skye is 4 and Orion is 2, and I can find time to play, but how I play depends on what kind of attention I can afford to give the game. So at one end I'm Ice Mining in a hulk in Hi-Sec or handling a lot of those 'boring' logistical operations that are necessary to maintaining a 0.0 alliance. At the other end of the scale I'm participating in PVP operations with a fleet. I can quite happily fly missions while reading my kids a bedtime story (although I sometimes have to let them push f1-8 for me).
Life in 0.0 is eminently possible with any number of distractions.
I recently won a lot of brownie points with my wife while participating in a corporate mining operation I was giving her a back massage.
Oh and I'd suggest that you setup your gaming system so you can play it one handed while standing and rocking a baby in your arms, because you'll find that with young kids you'll be getting up a lot in the middle of the night to comfort them, so you can squeeze in a bit of gametime, help the kid and again, win brownie points with the mother as you let her sleep.
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente
Faulcon de Lazy
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:19:00 -
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One of my close friends in Eve has a wife and 10 year old son, yet he plays more than I do  .
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:21:00 -
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It definatly changes everything... We've just recently had a daughter (she's 12 weeks old right now) so here's my normal weekday:
Pick up my daughter from the babysitter at 5:30 pm (wife drops her off in the am).
Get home at 5:45, change diapers and feed her the bottle (wife can't feed her a bottle, cus she won't take it from a lactating woman, and she has recently put some back and can't nurse). Play with her for a bit. Now it's 7:00pm.
Wife takes over and I get to play until 8:00 (unless it is my turn to make dinner then I don't really get to play).
8:00 Clean dishes/kitchen, sanitize bottles and get ready for bath.
8:30 bath time, and I have to help with the taking off of the clothes, drying off, diaper, lotion, sleeper, hand off to mom for feeding.
8:45 play EvE for a little bit, (which is just basically logging in and talking to people), chat with the wife, play with the baby if she's done eating, maybe change another diaper.
9:00, play with my daughter for a little bit and take her up to be swaddled and lay down for the evening
9:30 - 11:00 play EvE until bed time, 10:45 if sex is involved.
Weekends - I get to stay up a bit later ;)
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:31:00 -
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Be sure to name your kids after a ship or system so you can explain to them where their name came from in 10 years
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Vancali
Minmatar
Black Moon Privateers
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rheed
9:30 - 11:00 play EvE until bed time, 10:45 if sex is involved.
lol
I have been married for almost 4 years, have a 1 year old, and have been playing since launch. Before the kid it was no problem. My wife loves pogo.com for some reason. With the kid, most of that free time is gone, as it should be.
I love spending time with my daughter, and I love the game. But she is far more interesting (so is my wife I guess  ). You will get to play EVE when they go to bed, just not as much as you would like. I was in a 0.0 alliance for ages. They all understand there is this mandatory thing called RL and aren't to bothered by the fact that you have to go at a moment's notice. If they don't understand, they are a load of single guys who don't have a life.
You can make this game work. Just consider it a hobby that you can enjoy whenever you get a chance. You won't be rolling in the Isk, but that is to be expected. Just train up for research agents, get manufacturing going, and you will be ok.
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Rheed
We The People
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Be sure to name your kids after a ship or system so you can explain to them where their name came from in 10 years
hehe "Ishkur! Quit pulling Jita's hair or you will be sent to your room like Dominix!"
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:38:00 -
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2 kids here - 2 and 5 years old. I play after they go to bed generally, while my wife is watching her shows. Some nights I won't play and just hang with my wife. As long as I don't crack out and stay up till 2am too often it's no problem. Sometimes I play during the day on weekends or in the evening when the kids are playing with friends or whatever, but mostly they keep me busy. Sometimes I can even play while watching them (laptop ftw), but too often I have to stop to tend to them, so I don't do that too often.
Basically, it's not a problem. I don't play as much as I would if I was single and living alone, but kids are awesome. The little anarchists just have me laughing all the time. And when my little girl gives daddy a big hug, I just melt!
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Major Theef
Blueprint Haus
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:43:00 -
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Like a lot of others in this thread have pointed out, balancing the time requirements of Eve with real life responsibilities depends largely on who choose to play with.
Our corporation is made up entirely of 30+ year-old gamers. Therefore, most of us have families/kids/dogs/cats/jobs, etc. We live happily enough in 0.0, and while we're by no means an 'elite' organization, we have fun and get by. Babies crying/kids screaming/dogs barking is a constant source of amusement on vent...and "sorry guys, gotta log...domestic aggro" is never frowned upon.
Good luck to the OP on finding the right balance...it can be done. :)
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Da'iel Zehn
Construct Core Operations
Construct Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:57:00 -
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It can be done, but time management is the real key.
I have been married for 9 years and I have a 6 year old. I play mainly when the wife and child are asleep usually 2 hours a night, thereby sacrificing sleep time. I work in a bit more time here and there and on the weekends some.
I spend time with the wife and child, work 40-50 hours a week, take care of everything at the house.
I have experienced wife aggro.  And Eve did cause problems when I was ignoring my other responsibilities.
The important thing is to not let the game take over your RL. Do what needs to be done, spend time with your family. After all, Eve will one day be gone, and the family will still be there.
If I didn't have the family and a job I would probably be on 23/7, eating cake mix, drinking a 3 liter Dr. Pepper, and wearing depends.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:03:00 -
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What are these wife/girl items you speak of and how much isk do they cost?
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:12:00 -
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Wow, some really good replies.
In review, it can be done... yey! I'm printing this to show my wife. She already agrees but at least this will give us a place to start when deciding a "middle ground".
What about scheduling? A particularly important op or money making run may require some pre-planning. Have any of you with kids been able to do that with any luck? What I'm thinking is that perhaps to mitigate not being there most of the time, instead I'm certainly there for a whole day/weekend or whatever is needed for a particular op maybe once every month or so. Does that work out with enough corpmates to make it even worthwhile to suggest?
I'm definitely going to get a better laptop, since they don't have classic graphics anymore I'll have to get one with a decent 3d card to play at all.
Also, how many of you do it as 'family time'. LAN parties are one of the most fun things you can do with buddies. My wife and I host one or two a year at the least. Does that mentality transfer well to a whole family? I'm not just talking eve here so does it work out for anyone to say "OK Billy, this Saturday your mom and I want to play *insert mmo here* do you want to invite some friends over?" I know there are some issues like said friend doesn't have the game or a computer, but has anyone ever done that successfully?
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:23:00 -
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Make sure you have a laptop that can run the game.. That way its an easy thing to do..wherever you end up in the house.
Setup your machine so you can sit at it one handed and play. As your other hand will be full of child for the first few months. There will be times when you will have spent a half hour trying to get the baby to sleep, and the only place they will want to sleep is on *you*. Which means you can get an hour or so in while they are passed out until they wake up with a dirty diaper or hungry again.
Your first few months will be a blur of:
1) Baby wakes up
2) Change baby
3) Feed baby
4) Put baby back to bed
Try to sleep when the baby does, but that is also the time you can squeeze game time in.
This will be an intersting time in eve, as you will be on at all sorts of odd hours, meeting all sorts of denizens from around the world whose prime-time you will be trespassing on. If you are an ore thief, you can select a special project corp to target. Striking whenever you are online. You can be their special nightmare. Same thing goes if you are market oriented. Your irregular schedule will allow you to out-play some of the market traders who tend to have a set of online hours.
When the baby starts to hit a regular schedule, this kind of goes away. Your play hours will be whatever you can squeeze in when you are home, after baby's gone to bed and after household chores..but before bedtime. Get your wife interested in pogo.com. That way you can both be messing on the computer doing something 'together-ish'.
And most of all...ctrl-q is perfectly acceptable any time if you're dealing with your child :) (PS: Babies like the new explosions more than the old ones...gatecamping with baby in the lap makes giggles)
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Kopesse
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:27:00 -
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I'm 30 this month (sob) and I;
Work to pay the mortgage,
Go to Uni,
Have a wife and three young kids that i manage to spend time with.
I still have two accounts. The key as mentioned is no hardcore compulsory op type corps. I play any evening I'm free, manage 15 to 20 hours a week regular, sometimes more depending on RL commitments. Way back in the day, it wasn't unusual that I spent 16 hours in one sitting. That cant be done but you can still have a blast though.
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Vincent Gaines
Tau Online Explorator Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:28:00 -
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I have 3 kids, weekdays go:
6:00 come home, relax and eat
7:00-8:00 eve time
8:00-9:00 make sure kids stay the **** in bed (they never do)
9:00-10:30 eve time
10:30 bed/sex
weekends I have more time, and occasionally I have more time to spare to eve like wednesdays (kids go to evening church)
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 08/04/2009 18:29:46
Wife and 2 small kids here. Having a family definitely puts a dent in to the time available for gaming, but I can squeeze something in, usually taking it off my sleep after everybody is in bed... Also occasionally during the day when they're having a nap if I'm home(usually before DT for me)
And also there can be some hilarious incidents like ceptor dogfighting with a baby in your lap and the baby suddenly gets distressed... I won though, and calmed the baby down. Had the opponent known... :P
I've found PVP-centric FW pretty ideal for a family friendly PVP life btw.
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Rheed
We The People
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rheed on 08/04/2009 18:31:10
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Also, how many of you do it as 'family time'. LAN parties are one of the most fun things you can do with buddies. My wife and I host one or two a year at the least. Does that mentality transfer well to a whole family? I'm not just talking eve here so does it work out for anyone to say "OK Billy, this Saturday your mom and I want to play *insert mmo here* do you want to invite some friends over?" I know there are some issues like said friend doesn't have the game or a computer, but has anyone ever done that successfully?
It is my firm belief that the key to a happy and healthy relationship with your wife/girlfriend and/or child(ren) is to NOT integrate them into your MMO's.
Meaning, I would be against them playing the same game as I do. Thankfully, my wife has absolutly no interest and by the time my little girl is old enough, odds are this game won't exist anymore.
I had an experience where I dated a girl and eventually moved in with her - who played Everquest with me... It was not a plesant experience...
*Edit: minor spelling error
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:37:00 -
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I have a wife and 2 kids, and Eve proved to be a godsend for getting my gaming fix.
My best luck for gaming has always been after the wife and kids go to bed. They are not the slightest bit interested in Eve, never will be, and do get resentful if too much of my time, while they are awake is not available (I have a wife and 2 daughters, you do the math).
In traditional MMOs, playing late night in North America was a drag because all other games are multi-shard, and every timezone was in bed. That sucked, made for a solo-only play.
Then Eve came along with its single-shard, international community, as such, finding someone to group with was no longer an issue...can get them 24/7/365 now...yay single-shard.
Eve better was how undemanding Eve can be on time..that is unlike traditional MMOs, I am really not forced by game design to do anything, nor left behind as a result. So on the weeknights, I am off soling, or small grouping, then on the weekends, I get some extra time, and go run with the fleets for extended periods of time.
and the skill system is da bomb..never have to worry about being the lowest level because of my play schedule ever again. No weird level restrictions for grouping...blah, blah.
I win, family wins, CCP wins :-) ..and odds are Ill never play a 'traditional' MMO ever again.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:39:00 -
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I've found that Eve is the best MMO for me. I'm married with 4 kids. I'm my son's Den Leader for Cub Scouts and I have a job that is sometimes time-demanding (Linux nerd).
The "usual suspects" on the fantasy side (EQ/EQ2/WoW/WAR) all require, IMHO, too much "grind" to stay happy. Eve supports play styles that allow you to hop on, set something up, and hop off. For instance, I'm in an Industrial Corp. We did a WH Op on Momday night and I had time to participate. (also lost my Moa. D'oh!) I skipped out on the NA Mining Op lsat night, but according to Evemon, I just made 1.5 million ISK from my active sell orders. Woot!
When I have a longer time to play, I'm exploring, looking for sites and WHs and running the occasional mission (I don't really like grinding, so one or two missions a session is my limit)
So yes, Eve + family can work.
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brakespear
Minmatar
Minerva Co.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:56:00 -
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Depends on individual setups but for me, as others have stated, time management is key. Have to be in a situation where I can readily run off and get a drink of water for someone, put covers back on beds, tie son to bed so he won't try and wash his hair in the toilet bowl again etc etc
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Posted - 2009.04.08 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Zalinia on 08/04/2009 19:00:07
I have a wife, no kids, but attending college/ working full time (which I assume partially makes up for the lack of kids ). I just play during the weekends and extended breaks, and spend the weekdays doing studies and spending time with my wife.
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Golan Cinquanteneuf
Carthage Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle Vega
My almost 10 year old ... plays gta4 .
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Slyckback
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:12:00 -
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What kinda parent wants their child to play in EVE exactly? "A dark, brutal, treacherous, violent universe filled with griefers, scammers, and goons...." Yeah, thats the playground I want my children playing in during their formative years....
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charnea
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:16:00 -
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I have a wife and small child and I find EVE the ideal mmo for a family. I still always feel like I am progressing even when I am having "family time". Skills are always training, orders are always being bought and sold, and my investments are always working for me. Having said that it does cut in to gaming time, family always comes first. Thankfully I can mine and step away to get my son or run and help my wife with something. I can't do that with any other game.
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Hopey
Gallente
L.O.S.T. Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:50:00 -
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I'm a single-dad with a 17-year old daughter and, as many others have said, it's all about time-management and perspective. EvE comes second to anything and everything else in my life - parenthood, working, paying-my-bills - this all comes first. One of the things I like most about EvE is that I get in what i put out - only have 30 minutes to play? do some manufacturing/invention. got 90 minutes to play? a few minutes/scanning. My daughter is having a sleep-over with her mum? The night is mine, all mine!
you will probably find yourself without much time at all in the few months but after that EvE can fit in nicely :)
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Hopey
Gallente
L.O.S.T. Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: charnea
I have a wife and small child and I find EVE the ideal mmo for a family. I still always feel like I am progressing even when I am having "family time". Skills are always training, orders are always being bought and sold, and my investments are always working for me. Having said that it does cut in to gaming time, family always comes first. Thankfully I can mine and step away to get my son or run and help my wife with something. I can't do that with any other game.
bingo :)
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Slyckback
What kinda parent wants their child to play in EVE exactly? "A dark, brutal, treacherous, violent universe filled with griefers, scammers, and goons...." Yeah, thats the playground I want my children playing in during their formative years....
i think the idea of personal biological macro's is awesome.
"if you get me xxx units of veldspar tonight you can have extra desert after dinner."
"if you see someone you dont know warp into belt, run. remember no talking to strangers."
"remember son/daughter, the basics of trading is to buy low, sell high; and always check twice before accepting any sell orders or contracts."
eve might be harsh but it can teach some vital life lessons.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:09:00 -
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It works out for me, I play Eve to relax late at night once the kids are asleep and I'm done with my graduate studies. Nothing beats running a few missions with my favorite brew in hand right before bed.
One day when I'm really old and no one will come talk to me because I smell disgusting and can't help it, then I'll devote the rest of my life to a 0.0 alliance and dominate all who stand in my way. For now it's about the wife and kids, they come first.
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Ironback
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:19:00 -
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When my wife and I 1st met she never heard of online gaming. After a year of marriage I made the mistake and got her to play EQ with me. I had been a 5 year vet at that time. Her playing totaly ruined the game for me.
So I ran away to SWG. After our twins were born I would play with a 5 pounder on a pillow on my lap. as they grew I found it harder and harder to devote time to play. That was when I realized what my epic fail was. I thought that my family was putting a dent in my play time. In reality it was the game putting a dent in my family time.
I gave up SWG and all other games. My boys are now two years old and I have found Eve. I wish I had found it sooner. The wife has no desire to even look at it. She quit EQ also btw.
I now play Eve when my boys go down for the night. On weekends while they take thier afternoon naps and late into the night. That is unless the wife has "other" plans for me. 
So it can be done. Just live by this addage: Keep Momma happy.
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Oxystar
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem
is your friend chinese? If so call child services.
wohoo. fun and cash at one hit and you wanna call child services.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:37:00 -
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As others have said, EVE is the perfect MMO when you have a family, although hardcore 0.0 gameplay might not be a good idea as it tends to be much more time-consuming. That depends on your corp, though.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:43:00 -
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its possible though not always easy
depends on what you like to do. mining all day can be easy but running pvp ops with people depending on you
can be harder. scheduled pvp ops make it easier to participate.
since you might be logging in at what may not be normal times, maybe its an opportunity to get good at solo ganking ?
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Athena Tarsis
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:45:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
If it hasn't been made clear already, this is a dated, tired, inaccurate cliche' that should've died many, many years ago. :) There are heaps and heaps of established family types that play MMOs, Eve included. Young 20-somethings and/or socially inept introverts are only a portion of the gaming demographic -- my anecdotal evidence suggests it's a small portion, but your mileage may vary.
That said, if your wife is supportive of your gaming (or even games with you as mine does), then you're set. If, however, she narrows her eyes at you when you play, it's going to be a tougher road to hoe. Our kids play MMOs with us from time to time; it's really quite a treat.
In my experience, the best way to manage it is to find a game she enjoys and play it with her, cooperatively.
Good luck!
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Core Admiral
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Posted - 2009.04.08 20:59:00 -
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EVE allowed me to survive through the first months after my first son was born;
He had major stomach aches and could only sleep lying on me while I was seated. so, what else could I do? tv at 2am isnt great,..so I did alot of mining..
now with 2 kids, eve is pretty much the only game I can play regularly, as it allows you to afk alot (while you're on autopilot, etc) and play one-handed (you can mission by just clicking with the mouse, while the other hand holds a baby :) )
However, it hasnt done wonders on the marriage, so be cautious of that and manage wife aggro well.
I suggest cloaking to 5, and wife ECM to 5 also. I've also asked friends to come help me tank.
gl!
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Whip
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:12:00 -
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I think EVE is probably the best of all the MMO's to play when you have other commitments. I have a wife & two kids and love the fact that even when not playing, i'm still skilling up. I also do a bit of semi-AFK mining in high-sec on an old laptop whilst doing other things to earn a bit of extra isk :)
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Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:31:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Dmian on 08/04/2009 21:32:09
Let me quote this particulalry good dialog from "Lost in translation":
Originally by: Lost in translation
Bob: It gets a whole lot more complicated when you have kids.
Charlotte: It's scary.
Bob: The most terrifying day of your life is the day the first one is born.
Charlotte: Nobody ever tells you that.
Bob: Your life, as you know it... is gone. Never to return. But they learn how to walk, and they learn how to talk... and you want to be with them. And they turn out to be the most delightful people you will ever meet in your life.
Charlotte: That's nice.
This is one of my favourite quotes. 
And as Zedrik Cayne said before: your first months will consist mostly of waking up in the middle of the night to feed/change the baby. After, probably, three months it will imrpove a lot, until the baby makes aprox. one year (or starts to walk.) Then it will be very difficult and you'll have to raise all your things over 3 feet.
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There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy
PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:36:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Stereotype much?
The average EVE player is 26, saying that the majority are 20 year olds who live in their moms basement is extremely ignorant/arrogant.
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Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:55:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Once upon a time, I met a guy when I was with the privateers who's 9 year old played eve and mined for him. I thought Score! that's the way to go... Maybe it can be done. Right now I have a close friend who's wife is working on #2 and he's gone all emo and quit (again).
So, to those experienced eve players. Can one play eve, AND in fact, have a life and a family. This of course implies that you know the names of all your children, and you spend time with them not on the computer. IE they do their homework, or you play catch with them, etc.
Please try to include serious responses, though really funny ones are ok too.
The only thing I have to say about this thing is:
Are you really... REALLY... SERIOUSLY REALLY... going to let a COMPUTER GAME stand in the way of you and having kids? I mean SERIOUSLY.
For one, imagine the conversations:
"I wanna have kids..."
"Can't, sorry. Got POS refueling duty every two weeks and this enemy fleet has been knocking at our door every other day. I really don't have time for kids right now..."
If you don't want to have kids, good on ya. However do not let an internet space game be part of the decision to have kids or not. Only serious things should influence that decision... SERIOUSLY.
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Onus Mian
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:34:00 -
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I have enuogh troule finding time to play MMO's with just having a girlfriend. As long as you have an understanding woman and seperate room to play in so you don't keep her awake and drive her nuts it should be ok once the kids are asleep I reckon.
For me personally when it comes to a choice between a warm bed with my girlfriend (Long term by the way) and games I'm with the warm woman every time. Don't want to accidently neglect your partner because you're trying to make up playing time that you're kids now fill by reducing time spend with her.
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Glassback
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:42:00 -
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I have 3 kids. 1, 6 and 8.
I play solid from 20:00 to 00:00.
When you have your first, the first 3 months will be tough, but after that you will get back into a routine.
G.
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Cailais
Amarr
Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.04.08 22:46:00 -
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It perfectly possible to play EVE and have a good family life - its just about achieving a sensible level of balance. EVE is probably the best MMO in this respect due to its skill training system - i.e you wont fall behind the curve just because you cant play in marathon stretches or at all.
I've gota 3 yr old daughter and generally get a good couple of hours online most evenings and sometimes over the weekend aswell. Treat EVE as a 'hobby' rather than an all consuming creature and you'll do fine.
C.
Originally by: Capa
So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: TigerXtrm
The only thing I have to say about this thing is:
Are you really... REALLY... SERIOUSLY REALLY... going to let a COMPUTER GAME stand in the way of you and having kids? I mean SERIOUSLY.
For one, imagine the conversations:
"I wanna have kids..."
"Can't, sorry. Got POS refueling duty every two weeks and this enemy fleet has been knocking at our door every other day. I really don't have time for kids right now..."
If you don't want to have kids, good on ya. However do not let an internet space game be part of the decision to have kids or not. Only serious things should influence that decision... SERIOUSLY.
Never mentioned anything about not having kids for eve. If I didn't want to have kids I wouldn't have decided to get married and have them. I was asking because I wanted to know if it was still possible to play eve as well and have a happy life. I wanted to learn from others. If eve gets in the way it's gone. Make no mistake eve is a distant, distant priority when compared to rl.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 00:51:00 -
[57]
Noone cares, also wrong forum dumass 
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Dr DeathBringer
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Posted - 2009.04.09 01:10:00 -
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If you have a wife/Gf that hates computers and computer games in general be prepared to lose one or the other. you won't keep both. If you find a a sig other that supports your gaming habits, you've found a keeper my current gf goes on the warpath the second i get on the computer for any reason.
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Lee Dalton
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.09 01:22:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
So my wife is on me about starting a family... I know the majority of you can't contemplate such an experience because lots of people who play eve either 1. don't know any girls (like me in college) or 2. are 20 something gamer types that don't have time for a family let alone are married or ready.
Once upon a time, I met a guy when I was with the privateers who's 9 year old played eve and mined for him. I thought Score! that's the way to go... Maybe it can be done. Right now I have a close friend who's wife is working on #2 and he's gone all emo and quit (again).
So, to those experienced eve players. Can one play eve, AND in fact, have a life and a family. This of course implies that you know the names of all your children, and you spend time with them not on the computer. IE they do their homework, or you play catch with them, etc.
Please try to include serious responses, though really funny ones are ok too.
Yes, just get your priorities straight. Your family comes first, then your social life, then EVE.
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente
Snake Eyes Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.09 02:30:00 -
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I think the average age of the EVE player is 27. Considerably older than other MMOs. Most of the people I know are thirtysomething or older. Many have family/kids.
EVE is probably one of the best MMO games for a family man. The offline skill training is great for when you can't be on much. There are plenty of corps in the game that have people in a similar situation and these corps typically agree that RL comes before playtime, and don't get mad if you have to bail on a PvP op or cut out for 30 minutes in the middle of a mining op.
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Quaristice
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Posted - 2009.04.09 02:38:00 -
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If you are curious about how family life is gonna be like while being addicted to Eve...then its time to step away for a while and get outside and definately NOT have a family.
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Turin
Caldari
Eternity INC.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Turin on 09/04/2009 03:07:24
Wifes and children ruin everything. Avoid them at all costs. Just get a Friend with Benefits.
Oh crap... wifes coming.... backspace backspace backspace!!!!!
You can still play certainly, but if you are addicted to the big 0.0 arena, as I am, with all the fleetwar fare that comeswith it, this area of the game will most likely be denied to you. Or, you do what I do, and play anyways, and **** your wife off. I dont have kids yet. The wife is more than enough. She hates video games in general though, and thinks they are all pointless. So I call it a biased opinion on her part. :)
Most other aspects of the game are quite family freindly. Just make sure you always travel with a cloaking device. :)
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Prieith
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.09 03:08:00 -
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We got 2 kids, aged four and two.
EVE is like a gift to us married men!
Well I would say this entirely depends on what limits your wife has, and if you know those limits well enough.
I had to stop playing other MMO's where the playtime is a huge factor in how you progress in the game, because of this, and was lucky i found EVE.
You are in a better position, you have found EVE already.
I also moved my computer to the living room, well this was actually my wife's call, and it really helped out a lot just being present in the room.
I have mostly been in 0.0 and might have been lucky to be in a mature corp where most of my corpmates had family's, and if i had to drop out of a roam or gate camp, it was accepted with no worries. when i got back 15-30 mins later, i caught up again.
In weekends we do all the shopping and visiting family/friends early on the day,and when we get home my kids usually nap so i can play for a few hours, and in the evening my wife usually takes them to bed, and i log in straight away.
You got to be able to use voice comms in for 0.0 warfare, so i always have one ear to whats going on in the comms, and one ear on whats going on in the room.
I try to keep a fine balance of what my wife tolerates so that i'm not going over the line, i have done that a few times, and it was not pleasant, now i have learned.
1 or 2 times a week i dont play eve at all or stop early, and spend quality time with the wife, maybe some good wine or a drink and some snacks and a movie or just talk.
I do this during the times nothing much is going on in EVE, i would rather spend time with the wife that spinning ships in a station waiting for stuff to happen.
Since this can happen any time during the week, it will be like a random thing, not just every wednesday and saturday 8 o'clock thing.
Because those 'ok darling, thursday night 1015 we meet in the bedroom allright?' is not working so good for me, but truth be said, there has been, and surely will be times like that coming in the future as well.
All in all i think i have managed to put in quite a few hours of playtime in EVE, and i think i am blessed with having such great wife who lets me play games, coming into the 8th year of being togheter now and hopefully many years to come.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.04.09 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle Vega
My almost 10 year old mines in one display and plays gta4 in the other. All I have to do is put food infront of him and ask him to take a 10 minute break every hour. Naturally he has to do his homework first and has to go to bed on time. Also he gets enough exercise at school and on weekends he has his friends over and do other stuff than play on computers, like playing on his ps3 and stuff like that. So it works out ok, and it does wonders for the marriage since you have more time to eachother and an electronic babysitter (so to speak).
If only my 11 year old would mine for me. She loves computer games but EVE bores her to death.
Anyway my wife sits close by and watches her series and I play EVE. I don't really see how it could be a big problem unless someone here is going to claim that there is a difference between wasting time watching TV and playing a computer game. So, my wife doesn't complain that I play too much, nor does the daughter because doing so will mean I will whine about their series.
What is important, however, is an understanding wife and compromise. In my case I play EVE, they watch series. Everyone happy.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.04.09 06:48:00 -
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MMOs in general take a long time if you want the best toys, the most money etc.
You can have fun in eve so long as you don't care about having 0.0 sov., don't care about not having the best ships, etc and still have a real life.
You have to accept a lesser role in the game and plan your play time accordingly. That might mean not being in a major alliance etc if you can't meet their requirements for ops etc.
You can still have fun though.
Real life is always more important than a game. It is better to have children when you are younger and able to keep up with them. Don't fall into the illusion that you need to wait til you have enough money....you never will. That you'll know how to better raise them when your older...you won't.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Julia Steaz
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Posted - 2009.04.09 07:26:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Julia Steaz on 09/04/2009 07:26:47
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Don't fall into the illusion that you need to wait til you have enough money....you never will. That you'll know how to better raise them when your older...you won't.
Don't give people bad ideas. The last thing this planet needs is more people. The population of earth is 6 billion. STOP REPRODUCING YOU IDIOTS! There's not enough water! Hasn't anyone watched the new James Bond movie? Keep up with the times. Bottled water costs more than gas!
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.04.09 07:47:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Real life is always more important than a game. It is better to have children when you are younger and able to keep up with them. Don't fall into the illusion that you need to wait til you have enough money....you never will. That you'll know how to better raise them when your older...you won't.
Percect advice. Backpacking around the world at the age of 60 is an excellent idea. Imagine all the things you won't be able to do that you could have done at the age of 20-30! Or how about bungee jumping at 55? Fantastic, can't wait.
And if you have kids at the ages of 10-15 you are still the same generation and might even like the same things as your child when you're 30.
Excellent, thank you for making all those 10 year olds with babies feel so much better.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.04.09 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Real life is always more important than a game. It is better to have children when you are younger and able to keep up with them. Don't fall into the illusion that you need to wait til you have enough money....you never will. That you'll know how to better raise them when your older...you won't.
Percect advice. Backpacking around the world at the age of 60 is an excellent idea. Imagine all the things you won't be able to do that you could have done at the age of 20-30! Or how about bungee jumping at 55? Fantastic, can't wait.
And if you have kids at the ages of 10-15 you are still the same generation and might even like the same things as your child when you're 30.
Excellent, thank you for making all those 10 year olds with babies feel so much better.
By young I mean in their 20s. 100 years ago someone got married at 15 no one batted an eye. However our society has changed, it coddles people to much and really teenagers today are not ready for the burden.
However if you wait til your mid 30s to early 40s to have your first child the chances are you will not be able to keep up with your children as they get older
Take it from someone that knows :)
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.04.09 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Julia Steaz
Edited by: Julia Steaz on 09/04/2009 07:26:47
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Don't fall into the illusion that you need to wait til you have enough money....you never will. That you'll know how to better raise them when your older...you won't.
Don't give people bad ideas. The last thing this planet needs is more people. The population of earth is 6 billion. STOP REPRODUCING YOU IDIOTS! There's not enough water! Hasn't anyone watched the new James Bond movie? Keep up with the times. Bottled water costs more than gas!
lol
Even by conservative estimates the planet can sustain many more people probably double to triple the current number. Most countries are in negative growth anyway meaning they lose more people each year than they gain.
I mean seriously in the United States the government pays farmers not to grow food.....
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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shoresy
StarHunt
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.09 09:04:00 -
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Coming on 40 this year 1 kid at home new crop 3 older ones from first crop.
yes rl interferes with EVE. But there is a solution I send the wife on holiday with her mother sh takes the little one . I book the week off work . Grab plenty of food and beer, set the pc up infront of the sofa and I Play eve all week till I fall asleep lol. then wake up and play some more . Only problem is I cant afford to send her every month lol.
I usually find by the end of the week I am a little sick of sitting in front of a screen so my eve fix is done for a few months . Then i drop down to a couple of hours a day .usually after little one has gone to bed .
My eldest son used to come and join me on this week of eve as he plays too. so we would set up at either end of the sofa ( its a big sofa )and just enjoy.
Not that I am counting but the wife goes away on the 25th of this month lol thats only
16 days 1 hours 43 minutes and 29 seconds from now but who's counting :)
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Trader20
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Posted - 2009.04.09 09:33:00 -
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Noone cares, move this thread.
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Athena Tarsis
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Posted - 2009.04.09 09:47:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Trader20
Noone cares, move this thread.
3 pages of decent comments suggests otherwise.
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 10:11:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Trader20
Noone cares, move this thread.
Don't you have your 5 times table as homework? No games for you tonight sonny.
I have 2 kids and thank god for 'leveling up while afk'. Without this feature, I would not be able to keep up at all.
There are concessions*1 you will HAVE to make, but the game is still perfectly accessible to you which is so crazy a concept for an MMO!!
*1 No long unending roams through 0.0, faction loot drops are purely for sale not fitted, Plat insurance + self destruct = perfectly viable method to keep your precious game time used playing rather than logging off due to being camped in, much more time spent reading forums while feeding the baby
thats my entire eve life so far. I often wonder what its like to care about things like the politics of eve, or to be 'attached' to my space pixels, but then I have to get up and change a diaper and forget about it.
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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tradealt4tw
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Posted - 2009.04.09 10:22:00 -
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I manage to get on 1 to 2 nights a week max, it is possible but you downgrade yourself to a casual player. There are people who ignore their families for internet spaceships but these guys are going to die alone...
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Gebher'el
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.04.09 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gebher''el on 09/04/2009 12:02:10
First I think your perception of the EVE community is off. EVE has one of the more mature communities of any MMO. Of all the MANY playuers I have met over the years only a few did not have kids, I can count on my fingers the people not married and I tghink I have only actually known about 6 that where below the age of 25.
Personally I have in the last 4 years of playing EVE:
- Raised and gotten out of the house three teenagers
- Ran a business I own
- Been active in my local churches Childrens Ministry
- Gone through a divorce
- Had an active dating life
- Started a new serious relationship
- Helping her raise a 4 year old
At no time has my EVE game play gotten in the way of any of this. In EVE through various toons I have run two corporations, was head of a small alliance, been in faction war, various PVP wars and lots more...
What I am trying to say is that ANY game can cause issues but EVE by the nature of the some of the game mechanics is actually pretty laid back and makes good allowances for RL.
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Ji Sama
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Posted - 2009.04.09 12:04:00 -
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Eve works great with kids and family :D I am a stay at home dad, and the type of gameplay eve offers is just perfect for my idling semi afk play style..
im logged on 23/7 but im afk 60% of the time :p
EDIT: ninja edit > ninja afk
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Tekutep
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Posted - 2009.04.09 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
So, to those experienced eve players. Can one play eve, AND in fact, have a life and a family. This of course implies that you know the names of all your children, and you spend time with them not on the computer. IE they do their homework, or you play catch with them, etc.
My child is only 3 but so far I can answer that: Yes, this is possible on some level.
You'll never be able to spend as much time playing this game (or any other) as you did before having a family, however you can still play a fair amount. What I do is just log on after my kids go to bed and my wife sits down to watch some TV. We both like our "alone" time - she watches various shows and I play Eve. It boils down to about 2 to 4 hours a night, depending on how late I'm willing to stay up.
I'm lucky because my wife goes to work very early in the morning and therefore goes to bed much earlier than I do, and that works for us. Sure if I didn't have a family I would probably play 5 or 6 hours a day, but that's one of the sacrifices you have to make when you have a family (the other option of course is doing both, however that means you don't pay attention to your family and your kids grow up with feeling you're distant and your wife ends up divorcing you, etc.)
So yes you can still play some, but not as much as before.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:31:00 -
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I suppose you have the choice of 23/7 Eve or 24/7 family. At least Eve gives you an hour to yourself so that would be my preference. Still, each to their own.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20
Noone cares, also wrong forum dumass
Originally by: Trader20
Noone cares, move this thread.
You so hard you flame wit an alt. Big man!
For those looking for the 20 somethings I described in the original post look no further. We all knew there'd be some of this.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Real life is always more important than a game. It is better to have children when you are younger and able to keep up with them. Don't fall into the illusion that you need to wait til you have enough money....you never will. That you'll know how to better raise them when your older...you won't.
Perfect advice. Backpacking around the world at the age of 60 is an excellent idea. Imagine all the things you won't be able to do that you could have done at the age of 20-30! Or how about bungee jumping at 55? Fantastic, can't wait.
And if you have kids at the ages of 10-15 you are still the same generation and might even like the same things as your child when you're 30.
Excellent, thank you for making all those 10 year olds with babies feel so much better.
I'm 25 and I think it's good advice. But then again I don't plan on bungee jumping any time soon. If I do I'd want to wait until I've had a long happy life. I plan to become a skydiver at 70. We want to be able to relate to our children as younger adults. I don't want to be introduced as my child's grandparent. But that's me, to each their own.
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Quaristice
If you are curious about how family life is gonna be like while being addicted to Eve...then its time to step away for a while and get outside and definately NOT have a family.
I've made it this far so I don't believe addiction would qualify as a good definition of my relationship with eve. The way I see it, some people watch tv, some read magazines, others do crosswords, I play eve. There are all people arguably "addicted" to those other forms of entertainment. The people who aren't addicted simply don't let it become so important that they suffer because of it.
In my past eve took a whole lot of time. I just wanted some idea of how many people had found a way to work it in without it being invasive. I think I've found the answer that I'm looking for.
PS. I get outside ALOT! I love the outdoors. ;)
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Posted - 2009.04.09 15:55:00 -
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Have a 3 year old and 5 month old twins and im also a teacher,
I have one account with a perma tank hulk in a 0.6 system that i can forget about and a perma tanked domi on the second account,
I can happily spend time with the wife and kids looking in on the game every 15mins or so to unload or change missions,
Also keep the computer or laptop in the family space so your not shut away from them,
Also wireless keyboards and mice are handy.
But find a corp that understand your needs, i left a 0.0 corp with my 3rd account as they wanted me to play more that just aint going to happen with new born twins.
talk to the wife/girlfriend and ask her when you can play, or ask her if she would like to do soemthing (game, hobby, etc).
H.a.n.D
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