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Mystafyre
Caldari First Clan Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.09 18:45:00 -
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[Tengu, Master of Universe] Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Thon's Modified Co-Processor
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Electronics - Obfuscation Manifold Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
* Perma running 7426 dps tank (uniform damage distribution) * EM 86.9%, TH 94.3%, KI 91.5%, 88.7% * 63k EHP * HG Crystal set used * DPS is sad, 286, and no drone space
No use in pvp in anything else than tank since no point and web. No propulsion mod eather. Maybe as bait, the T2 fitting is quite nice too.
I tried to create lvl4 fitting for Tengu (wich would beat Golem). Sure I can get the needed speed of Ishtar and superior tank, but DPS isn't just enough with Heavy Missiles or Heavy Assault Missiles. With Heavy Missile launchers and Caldari Navy Scource Heavy missiles you can get 600 dps, but that's god damn expensive mission running.
But I'll bet there is possibility to fit cruiser size monster for lvl4 missions wich includes Afterburner from Gallente or Amarr T3 cruisers.
Sure Tengu can punch through lvl3s, but so can Drake with 50 M ISK costs...
Bit sad that the Tengu has teeths of Cerberus, sure you can fit massive tank but dps is sad for T3 cruiser
Back to EFT warrioring...
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BLOOD THIRSTY
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:24:00 -
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its fine until you run into any ship with 1 heavy nuet
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Wideen
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY its fine until you run into any ship with 1 heavy nuet
it's fine until it runs into a sentinel even
OP is on to something but needs moar expensive mods
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el caido
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:57:00 -
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The sad thing is I can totally imagine this on a future killboard ...
/me looks in Siig's direction
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Cmdr Greg
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:57:00 -
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[Tengu, General real] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Auxiliary Thrusters I
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Electronics - Obfuscation Manifold Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Skills all 5's no implants Tank : 1031 Dps (with faction) : 688 Range : <42.8 speed : 709
seems reasonable not as good as a Golem but certainly better than CNR exchange boosters for pith A medium and em hardener andd you get 1499dps tank ps all permaruns plus can improve with implants
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2009.04.09 20:12:00 -
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I had hopes for it replaceing the golem but i dont see it happenning at least with the fits i have tried
Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.04.09 21:55:00 -
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Screw missions. Once the price drops, I've just found the ultimate PvP missile ship. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Bufo8o2
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:19:00 -
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For missions against guristas this setup looks quite good:
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Corelum A-Type 10MN Afterburner Target Painter II Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Bay Loading Accelerator II Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I [empty rig slot]
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
All with lvl V no implants: 952dps at just over 30km and 644/749 tank against guristas
Goes at 698m/s and for a more realistic fit the A-type booster can be replaced by a b-type and a t1 rig used along with a downgraded afterburner but still does just over 900dps and has a 566/656 guristas tank.
Would have thought this could challenge battleships for mission speed due to speed and the cruiser sized weapons should hit for closer to the theoretical dps.
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:25:00 -
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I don't think the tengu can even beat the nighthawk for mission running, just not enough damage bonuses.
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.09 22:59:00 -
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if you fit a ship to tank more than 600 dps, you become increasingly vulnerable to neut attack. Cap injector or at least multipe nos becomes more important than additional tanking power.
For example, you can setup a tank against 6 people, but the chance that those people have energy neuts is more than 50%. As gang size increases, the chance of encountering energy neut attack approaches 100%.
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Mystafyre
Caldari First Clan Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.09 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY its fine until you run into any ship with 1 heavy nuet
Yeah, sadly...
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Mystafyre
Caldari First Clan Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.09 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc I don't think the tengu can even beat the nighthawk for mission running, just not enough damage bonuses.
True... Simply not enough dps without faction missiles
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.10 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY its fine until you run into any ship with 1 heavy nuet
What!? Are you implying there is something other than DPS and tank in my EFT, I mean EVE.
NEVER!!!! *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
fuxinos
Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.04.10 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 10/04/2009 17:03:41
Originally by: Mystafyre
Originally by: TimMc I don't think the tengu can even beat the nighthawk for mission running, just not enough damage bonuses.
True... Simply not enough dps without faction missiles
Nighthawk: 5% rof and 5% Kinetic damage per level / 6 launcher Tengu: 7,5% rof and 5% kinetic damage per level / 6 launcher
Did I miss anything?
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Meazy San
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Posted - 2009.04.10 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Meazy San on 10/04/2009 17:40:34 EFT Warrior Mini-Drake on Steroids All LVL-5
DC II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon|Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Magnetic Scattering Amplifier Warp Disruptor II (Oh snap finally can fit a point without gimping the tank)
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - CPU Effeciency Gate Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
- 93,841 EHP, 17,063 Shield HP - EM 70.1%/TH 89.1%/KI 83.6%/EX 72.7% - Shield Regen = 125.87 per second, 595 Uniform Damage Distribution - 502 DPS, 1237 Volley Damage, 591 DPS Overheated, No Drones - No implants
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.04.10 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Meazy San Edited by: Meazy San on 10/04/2009 17:40:34 EFT Warrior Mini-Drake on Steroids All LVL-5
DC II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon|Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Magnetic Scattering Amplifier Warp Disruptor II (Oh snap finally can fit a point without gimping the tank)
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Tengu Electronics - CPU Effeciency Gate Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
- 93,841 EHP, 17,063 Shield HP - EM 70.1%/TH 89.1%/KI 83.6%/EX 72.7% - Shield Regen = 125.87 per second, 595 Uniform Damage Distribution - 502 DPS, 1237 Volley Damage, 591 DPS Overheated, No Drones - No implants
You've made a Drake with less tackle, less DPS and Shield Power Failays. Incredible.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.04.10 18:19:00 -
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(1) create a fit with no damage mods (2) whine it lacks DPS
Are you one of those people who go to a steakhouse and ask for the vegetarian option?
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Enden Assulu
Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.10 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis (1) create a fit with no damage mods (2) whine it lacks DPS
Are you one of those people who go to a steakhouse and ask for the vegetarian option?
I lol'd
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Imca
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Posted - 2009.04.10 22:47:00 -
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[Tengu, New Setup 1] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
gives 31k uniform defence ( according to eft)
speed and dps is crap but who cares :)
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MadMax RuS
The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2009.04.10 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Imca [Tengu, New Setup 1] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
gives 31k uniform defence ( according to eft)
speed and dps is crap but who cares :)
you, sir, made the best fit ever
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.10 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: MadMax RuS
Originally by: Imca [Tengu, New Setup 1] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
gives 31k uniform defence ( according to eft)
speed and dps is crap but who cares :)
you, sir, made the best fit ever
In EFT, that is.
Even if the regen is real (somehow I doubt it...), it only takes 2-3 BS with tachs or 1400s to take you out in a single volley.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.10 23:55:00 -
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@ OP: 9610 permatank, with HG slaves and 3% CPU implant. 295 DPS at ~30KM.
[Tengu, Master of Universe] Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Thon's Modified Co-Processor
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Electronics - Obfuscation Manifold Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Or, if you don't really want DPS...
[Tengu, Master of Universe] Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Thon's Modified Co-Processor
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
True Sansha Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Sabretooth Light Missile True Sansha Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Sabretooth Light Missile True Sansha Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Sabretooth Light Missile True Sansha Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Sabretooth Light Missile True Sansha Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Sabretooth Light Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Electronics - Obfuscation Manifold Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
11794 Permatanked uniform DPS... with same HG crystals/all level 5. There's probably some other shield implants out there, but CBA finding them. 139 DPS (lol).
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fuxinos
Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.04.11 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 11/04/2009 00:29:34
Originally by: AstroPhobic Or, if you don't really want DPS...
Oh boy
As if your fist fit would have any considerable dps...
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Shardrael
Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.04.11 00:34:00 -
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I mission run a nighthawk with navy scourge and t2 fury.... its not that expensive, maybe 1 mil or a little less in ammo cost. Signature locked. Please submit a petition to discuss the matter further. Navigator |
Ahimsaka
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Posted - 2009.04.11 22:01:00 -
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Meh, for the isk I'd rather have a faction / crystal sleipnir. Enjoy the EFTing.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.04.12 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Imca [Tengu, New Setup 1] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II Core Defence Field Purger II
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
gives 31k uniform defence ( according to eft)
speed and dps is crap but who cares :)
Give it a defensive subsystem.
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