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Leeloo Malaquin Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.04.10 09:35:00 - [1] I probably look like a noob posting my killmail here but I figured this might be a unique story and it could offer inspiration to new players like me. Anyway, yesterday had been a slow day for me pvp vice, hadn't had any action during the whole day. I decided to go out ratting in Amamake before going to bed. So there I was with my rifter just finishing of a rat when suddenly Arazu popped to my overview 40km away(not sure if it jumped in or uncloaked). Being a 30 day old noob I had no idea what Arazu was and decided to escape. To my great surprise my warp core was disrupted(from over 40km away!) and I was sure I was going to die. I hitted afterburner and tried to get off his insane range. I managed to get like 55km away but then the Arazu just hit his mwd and catched me up again. During this whole time he was shooting me with railguns. I decided I had no other chance than to fight, so I turned around and manual flight towards it trying to avoid railgun fire. I got right next to it and started to orbit at 500m. I saw it launching it T2 hammerhead drones and figured that this was the end. Usually when I get a droneship on me I die in seconds. However these drones didn't seem to hit me very well and I could tank their damage with SAR1 as I had basically unlimited cap because I was draining it from the Arazu with NOS. I picked off the drones one by one and then turned my guns on the Arazu. When he was half armor punisher jumped to the belt 100km away and offered his help. I joined in a fleet with him and he jumped out of the belt(to warp to member). By the time he got to the action the Arazu was already in structure and the Punisher helped me to finish the Arazu off. Damn him from getting the last hit. :) I did over 5000 damage compared to his 134. But he was a fair guy and let me keep the loot(which was worth nearly 100 million!). I have no idea if the Arazu pilot was drunk or just underestimated my Rifter, but for some reason he decided to engage me. When I got close I pointed him with a scram and webbed him so there was no escaping. This was definitely the most memorable fights I have had during my one month in EVE. And my first solo kill also(I count it as solo kill as I did 97% of the damage and could have killed it alone). Here is the killmail: Eve-kill.net(I dont normally use this but it shows the value of the ship better): http://tenthlegion.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3058192 Battleclinic(it shows my other kills also): http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Leeloo+Malaquin&id=6393400&page=1&filter=kills#mail My fit: High slots: 1xSmall "Knave" 1 Evergy drain 3x150mm Light Gallium 1 Machine Gun Medium slots: 1xCold-Gas 1 Arcjet Thursters 1xStasis Webifier 1 1xWarp Scrambler 1 Low slots: 1xSmall Armor Repairer 1 1xDamage Control 1 1x200mm Crystalline Plates 1
SGT Monty	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:15:00 - [2] Grats on your kill, nothin beats being winning as the underdog.
Roland Deschaines Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:35:00 - [3] What happened is the following: You were to close for his railguns (espescially cruiser railguns) to track. Hammerheads (medium drones) don't track frigs very well so you were able to kill em before they got you. Then it was just a matter of finishing off his tank, which he couldn't sustain for ever, especially with your Nos. However, why he didn't MWD away from you when you were approaching is beyond me. He should have had full range control. Possibly he capped out, but that seems pretty unlikely. He's from the united, a well known pirate corp, so I have no idea how that happened.
Asuka Smith Gallente StarHunt	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:40:00 - [4] The United are EWEET PEEVEEPEErz
Rexthor Hammerfists Rage of Inferno Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:47:00 - [5] Nicely done, good example of Rl Skills vs. SP and isk -
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:50:00 - [6] Edited by: RedSplat on 10/04/2009 10:51:46 Originally by: Asuka Smith The United are EWEET PEEVEEPEErz Sadly, for them, the locals in Amamake are a tad different to the week old players they are used to bombing in Rancer. Its cute when pirates have to bring a capfleet to compete. But hell, eggs and omelettes as they say. The industrial alts are happy to take up the slack in the local market. Fake edit: 300 whole falcons. Close range brawler fit!!1!! Real Edit: Congrats OP. 1 exotic dancer coming your way. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:52:00 - [7] Gratz on your kill but any Arazu pilot should be able to win this with one hand tied behind his back. I suspect his is petitioning a wife gank I dare you to Fight My Brute !
Lord DevilHanzo Gallente The Crane Technique	Posted - 2009.04.10 10:58:00 - [8] Congrats OP. I love the way a member of one of the most 'notorious' pirate corps in EvE decloaked an arazu to kill a 30 day old rifter and got spanked. Feel the burn.
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Gratz on your kill but any Arazu pilot should be able to win this with one hand tied behind his back. I suspect his is petitioning a wife gank Not really true. Read what Roland wrote. Once the drones are gone there is nothing the Arazu can do. Of course, he's probably a clueless fool who didn't keep range in the first place, but still. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
TooNu Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:15:00 - [10] Love it :) good job.

jaybob35 Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:18:00 - [11] nice kill , The guy shoulda had warrior or even hoboblin II 's and He would of won . what a ****head.
jaybob35 Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:29:00 - [12] cant seem to find the loss on the united kb . can someone link it (the mail on their board }
Leeloo Malaquin Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:32:00 - [13] The funny thing is that I got pod killed few days ago by this "the united" corp in a gate camp by Large Proton Smartbomb II: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Leeloo+Malaquin&id=6380661&page=1&filter=losses#mail I guess I got my revenge. :)
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:35:00 - [14] Originally by: jaybob35 cant seem to find the loss on the united kb . can someone link it (the mail on their board } http://theunited.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=100107 Searching for a pilot and checking most recent loss isn't that hard. ;) Anyway, didn't mean to take away from the kill, well done. Just that this pilot is obviously clueless. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:47:00 - [15] That's pretty embarassing - good work on your kill.
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.04.10 12:32:00 - [16] For those wanting to see the original mail: http://i42.tinypic.com/2hxpp4o.png Sadly United feel they must edit Killmails to hide their blunders. http://i39.tinypic.com/250pd3n.png Hint: That Rifter magically became a Domi. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Pinda Man Minmatar INTERSTELLAR COLLECTIVE OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.10 12:40:00 - [17] Originally by: RedSplat For those wanting to see the original mail: http://i42.tinypic.com/2hxpp4o.png Sadly United feel they must edit Killmails to hide their blunders. http://i39.tinypic.com/250pd3n.png Hint: That Rifter magically became a Domi. ROFL now THAT is epic fail.
Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.10 12:52:00 - [18] Originally by: RedSplat For those wanting to see the original mail: http://i42.tinypic.com/2hxpp4o.png Sadly United feel they must edit Killmails to hide their blunders. http://i39.tinypic.com/250pd3n.png Hint: That Rifter magically became a Domi. Ignore the Heretic propaganda and check the actual killboard - theunited did not cover up the loss.
Murashu Agony's End	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar Ignore the Heretic propaganda and check the actual killboard - theunited did not cover up the loss. Looks to me like they just deleted the loss instead of having the doctored version up there. http://bl3h.evekb.co.uk/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=52925&view=losses Murashu Agony's End
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:17:00 - [20] Latest united killboard

RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:23:00 - [21] Well lookee here... Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
CHED Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Shigsy Latest united killboard Ahahahhaah
FU22 Noir.	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:30:00 - [23] "30 day old char flying a domi with t2 ogres?" lols at united... Congrats on your awesome kill +1 E-Cookie for you
Count MonteCarlo Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:48:00 - [24] Edited by: Count MonteCarlo on 10/04/2009 13:47:49 Awesome story, It's still very impressive to see a maxed out t2 fitted Rifter to kill an arazu, but when a 1 month old newbie does it, and his first ever solo kill, very impressive, and also it's against one of the most hated corp in eve I guess gatecamping + Smartbombing all day doesn't make you a good pvper afterall. And on the united changing the km, ohgod... Sig made by Shigsy SEE THE SIG IN FULL SIZE
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.04.10 13:52:00 - [25] Great job Leeloo, and a nice story too! Keep em coming Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.10 14:19:00 - [26] Originally by: CHED Originally by: Shigsy Latest united killboard Ahahahhaah I stand corrected - this is epic fail.
Insa Rexion Minmatar United Forces	Posted - 2009.04.10 14:45:00 - [27] this kill is absolutely thread worthy, good work mate and the killmail change made me laugh heartily well mannered ah*
Dhaaka Vincatar	Posted - 2009.04.10 15:00:00 - [28] This is an inspiration to all new players and all frigate pilots out there! Grats on your kill, enjoy your loot, and lol at doctored killmail!
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.04.10 15:36:00 - [29] loooooool ^_______^ @KM changing. Well done OP.
Pater Peccavi Minmatar Tactical Initiative	Posted - 2009.04.10 15:51:00 - [30] lol, most epic thread I've seen in awhile. Nice kill. ----

Jim GNARKILL Gnarkill INC	Posted - 2009.04.10 16:03:00 - [31] halp guys im having a problem, every time i take a rifter out for some pvp it turns into a battleship, i mean im making good isk off selling all the extra battleships but i just wanna fly my rifter, any ideas?
Ga'len Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.04.10 16:40:00 - [32] Originally by: Jim GNARKILL halp guys im having a problem, every time i take a rifter out for some pvp it turns into a battleship, i mean im making good isk off selling all the extra battleships but i just wanna fly my rifter, any ideas? Join United, they have ships change on killmails all the time. Your issue should fit in well there mate. /sarcasm off http://www.eve-druid.com
crockett EXE Minmatar Mutineers	Posted - 2009.04.10 16:55:00 - [33] Edited by: crockett EXE on 10/04/2009 16:59:17 Great kill and that's funny as hell they tried and cover it up for embarrassment. Just goes to show you that the rule about not posting KM's with names is crappy. edit.. btw to the op, if you are looking for a corp hit me up in game, we are new players that are into PvP as well.
Shun Makoto Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.10 17:01:00 - [34] Epic lulz and awesomeness Awesome job to Leeloo for the kill
Mac The'Knife Black'Tooth'Grin	Posted - 2009.04.10 18:49:00 - [35] A good KM thread with with a good story is bloody rare, especially if you are reading the old C&P. I had a good lulz at the united KB fiasco as well. Double winnage.
crockett EXE Minmatar Mutineers	Posted - 2009.04.10 19:59:00 - [36] lol Speaking of these tools in Rancer.. I was on my way to Jita taking the short path through low sec in a Reaper, only to get gate camped killed & podded by these morons. Looks like they were too embarrassed to post a Reaper kill and only posted the pod..Maybe if I give it time they will make my kill something big and important.. Who knows maybe my Reaper will morph into a Typhoon or a Maelstom soon..
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2009.04.10 20:26:00 - [37] Nice job taking it on solo. Just goes to show what a piece of crap the Arazu is. Falcon would jam it's way out. Rapier would web, get distance, and kill the Rifter. Pilgrim would just laugh and omgwtfbbq the Rifter. Arazu however? Arazu just dies. Taxman VII: Kingdom of Vlad
Asuka Smith Gallente StarHunt	Posted - 2009.04.10 20:32:00 - [38] I think the Arazu losing to the Rifter has more to do with the Arazu pilot being a complete failure at EVE rather than the ship being horribly imbalanced (It is a weak recon, but not that weak)
Phantom Slave JUDGE DREAD Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.10 20:52:00 - [39] Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff Nice job taking it on solo. Just goes to show what a piece of crap the Arazu is. Falcon would jam it's way out. Rapier would web, get distance, and kill the Rifter. Pilgrim would just laugh and omgwtfbbq the Rifter. Arazu however? Arazu just dies. The OP already said that the Arazu was catching up to him with his MWD. For some reason the arazu didn't turn tail and keep his distance. Piloting error was the cause of this death, not the ship.
jlangerud Gallente Domini Umbrus DEFI4NT	Posted - 2009.04.10 22:35:00 - [40] Edited by: jlangerud on 10/04/2009 22:35:49 OP said something about a scrambler. If it was a scram, he had no mwd to burn away from said Domi (Rifter). That might explain him not burning out of range. Good job Op on the kill. When your holding a ban hammer in one hand and a nerf bat in the other do you really need to be honorable?

Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.11 00:57:00 - [41] Originally by: Asuka Smith I think the Arazu losing to the Rifter has more to do with the Arazu pilot being a complete failure at EVE rather than the ship being horribly imbalanced (It is a weak recon, but not that weak) This. Originally by: jlangerud Edited by: jlangerud on 10/04/2009 22:35:49 OP said something about a scrambler. If it was a scram, he had no mwd to burn away from said Domi (Rifter). That might explain him not burning out of range. Good job Op on the kill. Read more carefully - the OP had a 60 km point and a MWD. The Arazu easily had the capability to control range. He should have launched drones, held the Rifter out at range to minimise angular velocity and sniped him. If it went wrong, he should have just warped out. tl;dr: Arazu pilot fails hard. Send me your ISK and quit.
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2009.04.11 02:53:00 - [42] Originally by: Phantom Slave Piloting error was the cause of this death, not the ship. Well I certainly wouldn't disagree that it was crappy piloting on the part of the Arazu. However, you are missing the point of my comment. Once the Arazu gets into that situation (frig at close range) it's dead. The other 3 recons have methods of extricating themselves, whereas the Arazu does not. So the fact that it is a crap ship has plenty to do with the idiot getting killed. Taxman VII: Kingdom of Vlad
Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2009.04.11 04:07:00 - [43] Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff Originally by: Phantom Slave Piloting error was the cause of this death, not the ship. Well I certainly wouldn't disagree that it was crappy piloting on the part of the Arazu. However, you are missing the point of my comment. Once the Arazu gets into that situation (frig at close range) it's dead. The other 3 recons have methods of extricating themselves, whereas the Arazu does not. So the fact that it is a crap ship has plenty to do with the idiot getting killed. Not really, he just should have used Warrior II's, I remember killing a Rapier in a Jaguar despite dual webs, the bastard should've used warriors, his hammerheads only tickled a bit.
Ashina Sito Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.04.11 04:27:00 - [44] Originally by: Somal Thunder Not really, he just should have used Warrior II's, I remember killing a Rapier in a Jaguar despite dual webs, the bastard should've used warriors, his hammerheads only tickled a bit. This, Arazu was set up to work in a gang or to kill solo ratters in cruisers or BC's. He was not properly fit to fight a frig, even a T1 frig. He let a small ship get in close assuming that his Hammers would take the frig down and they did not. Some Warrior II's would have saved him but he carried 4 Hammer II's and that took all his drone bay leaving him open for just this situation. Arazu pilot made a stupid move and he did it in front of a pilot who was in a ship that filled the defensive hole the Arazu had. Stupidity kills.
Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.11 05:26:00 - [45] Originally by: Ashina Sito Originally by: Somal Thunder Not really, he just should have used Warrior II's, I remember killing a Rapier in a Jaguar despite dual webs, the bastard should've used warriors, his hammerheads only tickled a bit. This, Arazu was set up to work in a gang or to kill solo ratters in cruisers or BC's. He was not properly fit to fight a frig, even a T1 frig. He let a small ship get in close assuming that his Hammers would take the frig down and they did not. Some Warrior II's would have saved him but he carried 4 Hammer II's and that took all his drone bay leaving him open for just this situation. Arazu pilot made a stupid move and he did it in front of a pilot who was in a ship that filled the defensive hole the Arazu had. Stupidity kills. It's just embarassing to be honest. This is a perfect example of how a good fit and a good knowledge of the game beats ISK and skill points.
Ashina Sito Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.04.11 05:58:00 - [46] Everyone is stupid sometime. No negitive comment on the Arazu pilot. One of the best stupid moments in Eve, although it was a drunk moment, was the guy who was gate camping and wacked his own hauling alt.
Minnie Matarri	Posted - 2009.04.11 08:59:00 - [47] Quote: It's just embarassing to be honest. This is a perfect example of how a good fit and a good knowledge of the game beats ISK and skill points. Did you read the original post? the OP tried to run, and then realizing that wasn't going to work fought instead... it had nothing to do with good knowledge. However props to the OP for a great kill, best lol I've had for ages. Want to get rich? it's easy, spend less than you earn. Okay, move along, this is my sig.
Jaina Proudmoar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.11 09:08:00 - [48] Originally by: Minnie Matarri Quote: It's just embarassing to be honest. This is a perfect example of how a good fit and a good knowledge of the game beats ISK and skill points. Did you read the original post? the OP tried to run, and then realizing that wasn't going to work fought instead... it had nothing to do with good knowledge. However props to the OP for a great kill, best lol I've had for ages. "I decided I had no other chance than to fight, so I turned around and manual flight towards it trying to avoid railgun fire. I got right next to it and started to orbit at 500m" So, the MWD fit Arazu failed to keep range from the AB fit Rifter. Additionally, he failed to just align and warp out when he had the Rifter pointed from 55 km out. Point is, the Arazu pilot failed.
MEDWAY	Posted - 2009.04.11 10:53:00 - [49] Respect nice kill. I myself have started to look at using the rifter to do some solo pvp, just hope i not run into you also luv the fact they tried to cover it up "HAHA so funny" your next mish is to take out a hac
Jenny Superfood	Posted - 2009.04.11 15:06:00 - [50] For a laugh, I looked up my own ganking+podding on their killboard. Much to my surprise, it's there, unedited and for all to see. Though there isn't much to see. When you need a Heavy Interdictor to scram a Reaper and another HIC+BS to kill it, you're hunting flies with cannons. Leeloo: Thanks for the story. Was a good read.

waruiushiro	Posted - 2009.04.11 17:54:00 - [51] Nice job, hope you managed to get a proper price for that rep fleet warp disruptor. People keep forgetting that Hammerheads don't hit AB frigs for ****!
Karentaki Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.11 20:00:00 - [52] Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff Nice job taking it on solo. Just goes to show what a piece of crap the Arazu is. Falcon would jam it's way out. Rapier would web, get distance, and kill the Rifter. Pilgrim would just laugh and omgwtfbbq the Rifter. Arazu however? Arazu just dies. WRONG, my arazu would NEVER lose to a single frigate. The trick is to use light drones rather than medium. The error was entirely with the pilot, both in fitting and in piloting. He could have probably disengaged at almost any time with the MWD. Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
Arthello Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.04.11 20:17:00 - [53] You never should've won against an Arazu. With that said: congratulations on a damned good job! Warrior II drones would've ripped you in seconds. Good thing you had that scram equipped. That's what kept him from running. With a disruptor he would've escaped as his MWD would work. He also underestimated you. An Arazu should keep range, but he didn't see you as a threat at all. If he'd moved the opposite direction when you closed range on him he would even hit you with his 200mm rails because transversal would've been low enough. It's also epic fail not to bring some faction AM ammo. Spike M has 0.75% tracking if I recall correct, whereas faction AM retains dps while still tracking at 100%. The Arazu is not a good solo ship against fast crafts. The Arazu's strenght is to dampen it's enemys sensors, thus preventing a lock. You got within his damping range. Good job on killing him. A kill is a kill. The next time you'll loose if you meet someone sensible :)
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2009.04.12 00:14:00 - [54] Originally by: Karentaki WRONG, my arazu would NEVER lose to a single frigate. The trick is to use light drones rather than medium. Oh? Did you come to that conclusion before or after having your ass handed to you by a Taranis?... Sorry, but having to gimp your already sh!tty dps for the sole purpose of being able to survive a frigate is exactly what makes the Arazu a piece of crap. There's no job the Arazu does that can't be done better, cheaper, and more survivably (made that word up) by another ship. Lose a few more, you'll figure it out. Taxman VII: Kingdom of Vlad
lt flaps Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire	Posted - 2009.04.12 01:35:00 - [55] Dam drunk Pirates either boozing, playing poker, or getting wife beat
Faekurias The Resilient Dead	Posted - 2009.04.12 16:19:00 - [56] Well done lad, well done! Congratulations on the victory! ------------------------- *FAEKURIAS*
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.04.12 17:09:00 - [57] Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff There's no job the Arazu does that can't be done better, cheaper, and more survivably (made that word up) by another ship. Lose a few more, you'll figure it out. The Blarazu disagrees. ---
Kylan Xu	Posted - 2009.04.12 18:21:00 - [58] Sorry for stealing your km! Had my guns primed when i locked him, had no idea he was about to pop. Most awesome kill I've seen in awhile and love the changes to the km's haha!
Morepew Lesque Hate Incorporated Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.12 18:25:00 - [59] ^^ woops that's me.
Terribad HOMELESS. The Shelter	Posted - 2009.04.12 22:58:00 - [60] Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff Nice job taking it on solo. Just goes to show what a piece of crap the Arazu is. Falcon would jam it's way out. Rapier would web, get distance, and kill the Rifter. Pilgrim would just laugh and omgwtfbbq the Rifter. Arazu however? Arazu just dies. http://hobo.deftly.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3807 -------------------------------------------------- the game

6Bagheera9 Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.04.12 23:27:00 - [61] Its hard to say which is more win, the Rifter curb-stomping the Arazu or the Arazu pilot's sorry attempt to save face.
Zaheera Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.13 08:09:00 - [62] Kudos to the OP. Great story. Originally by: Terribad http://hobo.deftly.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3807 Curious, why did he only take 7,000 damage? Even with his fit, against your rails, he should've taken 10,000-11,000 to kill...
Terribad HOMELESS. The Shelter	Posted - 2009.04.13 08:28:00 - [63] Originally by: Zaheera Kudos to the OP. Great story. Originally by: Terribad http://hobo.deftly.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=3807 Curious, why did he only take 7,000 damage? Even with his fit, against your rails, he should've taken 10,000-11,000 to kill... huh? hp is not ehp, it doesn't take into account resists. according to EFT, a max-skilled rapier with a single LSE will have 7300 hp total. it's ehp, however, will be 12.4k due to resists. -------------------------------------------------- the game
Trebor Notlimah Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2009.04.13 10:16:00 - [64] Impressive kill! Reminds me of when I tackled a Harpy in 0.0 space thinking 'easy kill' with my Arazu and talking my smack on alliance vent. He started to run to the gate so I ran after him thinking he would jump on contact. He MWD'd to the gate, bounced off, and to my surprise, turned and tackled me instead of jumping. My Arazu didn't last very long with his blasters all over me. Alliance had a good laugh.
Mistress Jeanette	Posted - 2009.04.13 14:39:00 - [65] The arazu didn't MWD away because the rifter had him scrambled. The arazu's scrambler made it so the rifter couldn't warp but he could still use his AB so he had speed tank on the arazu as well. Add in the nuet and fact that medium rails had no chance of hitting the rifter at that range he was screwed as soon as he closed range on him. Might have survived had it been scout drones instead of mediums, also if he had a missle/rocket launcher for close range but really the arazu pilot I think was hoping for the rifter to pop from the first hit at 55km.
Jodie Amille Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.04.13 19:53:00 - [66] Originally by: Mistress Jeanette The arazu didn't MWD away because the rifter had him scrambled. The arazu's scrambler made it so the rifter couldn't warp but he could still use his AB so he had speed tank on the arazu as well. Add in the nuet and fact that medium rails had no chance of hitting the rifter at that range he was screwed as soon as he closed range on him. Might have survived had it been scout drones instead of mediums, also if he had a missle/rocket launcher for close range but really the arazu pilot I think was hoping for the rifter to pop from the first hit at 55km. Half the people in this thread are incredibly dense. A rifter can scram from the 40km distance the fight started out at ofc. And a MWD arazu is not faster than a plated, ab rifter either. --------
Arthello Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.04.14 11:24:00 - [67] Originally by: Jodie Amille Originally by: Mistress Jeanette The arazu didn't MWD away because the rifter had him scrambled. The arazu's scrambler made it so the rifter couldn't warp but he could still use his AB so he had speed tank on the arazu as well. Add in the nuet and fact that medium rails had no chance of hitting the rifter at that range he was screwed as soon as he closed range on him. Might have survived had it been scout drones instead of mediums, also if he had a missle/rocket launcher for close range but really the arazu pilot I think was hoping for the rifter to pop from the first hit at 55km. Half the people in this thread are incredibly dense. A rifter can scram from the 40km distance the fight started out at ofc. And a MWD arazu is not faster than a plated, ab rifter either. Apparently you belong to the dense 50% mate. An Arazu with recon 5 has a 48km warp disrupt range. With faction mods it stretches to 56km. The Arazu also flies at over 1500m/s with mwd, whereas the Rifter goes at just over a 1000m/s with an AB. A named AB gives you around 150% increase on base speed. The Rifter speed will of course vary depending on skills, but as I understood it the Rifter pilot is relatively new.
Morepew Lesque Hate Incorporated Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.14 17:37:00 - [68] Originally by: Arthello Apparently you belong to the dense 50% mate. An Arazu with recon 5 has a 48km warp disrupt range. With faction mods it stretches to 56km. The Arazu also flies at over 1500m/s with mwd, whereas the Rifter goes at just over a 1000m/s with an AB. A named AB gives you around 150% increase on base speed. The Rifter speed will of course vary depending on skills, but as I understood it the Rifter pilot is relatively new. Oh my...you might want to read what he said before you call him dense.
Jodie Amille Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.04.14 19:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Arthello Originally by: Jodie Amille Originally by: Mistress Jeanette The arazu didn't MWD away because the rifter had him scrambled. The arazu's scrambler made it so the rifter couldn't warp but he could still use his AB so he had speed tank on the arazu as well. Add in the nuet and fact that medium rails had no chance of hitting the rifter at that range he was screwed as soon as he closed range on him. Might have survived had it been scout drones instead of mediums, also if he had a missle/rocket launcher for close range but really the arazu pilot I think was hoping for the rifter to pop from the first hit at 55km. Half the people in this thread are incredibly dense. A rifter can scram from the 40km distance the fight started out at ofc. And a MWD arazu is not faster than a plated, ab rifter either. Apparently you belong to the dense 50% mate. An Arazu with recon 5 has a 48km warp disrupt range. With faction mods it stretches to 56km. The Arazu also flies at over 1500m/s with mwd, whereas the Rifter goes at just over a 1000m/s with an AB. A named AB gives you around 150% increase on base speed. The Rifter speed will of course vary depending on skills, but as I understood it the Rifter pilot is relatively new. roflolol wts sarcasm detector. My god this thread is brilliant --------
Grueve Dhama	Posted - 2009.04.15 11:24:00 - [70] Originally by: Morepew Lesque Originally by: Arthello Apparently you belong to the dense 50% mate. An Arazu with recon 5 has a 48km warp disrupt range. With faction mods it stretches to 56km. The Arazu also flies at over 1500m/s with mwd, whereas the Rifter goes at just over a 1000m/s with an AB. A named AB gives you around 150% increase on base speed. The Rifter speed will of course vary depending on skills, but as I understood it the Rifter pilot is relatively new. Oh my...you might want to read what he said before you call him dense. He's still wrong and you guys need to l2r. Jodie Amille mocks Mistress Jeanette for pointing out that the rifter were scrambling the Arazu, but they were 40km apart. The problem is that the rifter didn't attack the Arazu. It was the other way around. The Arazu decloaked at disrupting range at +40km. The Rifter tried to gtfo but couldn't, THEN turned around to fight as it were it's only option left. The Arazu pilot was expecting an easy kill and didn't bother keeping his range. The hunter became the hunted after a while, but then it were too late for the Arazu to escape as the Rifter had an AB+scram. Nothing wrong with that assessment. Disputing this by trying to call it sarcasm only proves you don't have sufficient grasp of EVE mechanics.

FatFreddy	Posted - 2009.04.15 21:42:00 - [71] Edited by: FatFreddy on 15/04/2009 21:43:14 Edited by: FatFreddy on 15/04/2009 21:42:52 Reminds me of when I killed a (total) 60mil Manticore in my Rifter when I warped into his bubble on a 00 gate...boy was I surprised Was my first real PVP fight as well. Congrats on that kill.
Miyamoto Isoruku Caldari Noir.	Posted - 2009.04.16 09:28:00 - [72] Congrats to one hell of a lucky newbie. This, by the way, is why come hell or high water I always carry at least one flight of scout drones in any ship of mine with a drone bay... Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
Mia Diva	Posted - 2009.04.16 11:58:00 - [73] Edited by: Mia Diva on 16/04/2009 11:58:04 Shuh ! To moderate a KM is uterly pathetic. Shame on United lol
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:44:00 - [74] arazu/lach eat frigates for breakfast, they are the best anti-frigate ship in the game right now. That arazu pilot is f#cking terrible, thus the united are f#cking terrible. Good job young newbie. The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
Auliax	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:16:00 - [75] awesome.
Arthello Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:43:00 - [76] Originally by: Rajere arazu/lach eat frigates for breakfast, they are the best anti-frigate ship in the game right now. That arazu pilot is f#cking terrible, thus the united are f#cking terrible. Good job young newbie. I don't agree with that. I would much rather face an Arazu/Lach than say a Curse, Vaga or a Rapier. Both the Curse and the Rapier will slow you down and kill you, while the Vaga will just shred you in seconds. The Arazu should nevertheless be able to easily win over a Rifter.
DarkSpiralMoon Idle Miners	Posted - 2009.04.17 11:39:00 - [77] Not having a faction scram (and a disruptor) on an arazu is total fail...
Xiao Tek	Posted - 2009.04.17 22:58:00 - [78] this is going on my 'why no one with a clue sucks at pvp' examples list.
Rajere No Trademark	Posted - 2009.04.18 18:03:00 - [79] Originally by: Arthello Originally by: Rajere arazu/lach eat frigates for breakfast, they are the best anti-frigate ship in the game right now. That arazu pilot is f#cking terrible, thus the united are f#cking terrible. Good job young newbie. I don't agree with that. I would much rather face an Arazu/Lach than say a Curse, Vaga or a Rapier. Both the Curse and the Rapier will slow you down and kill you, while the Vaga will just shred you in seconds. The Arazu should nevertheless be able to easily win over a Rifter. doesn't matter if you agree with it, you're wrong. The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR
MirrorGod Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.04.20 21:09:00 - [80] I would be surprised, but this happened in Amamake. Glorious things happen in Glorious Amamake, and thus, I am not surprised.

Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.04.21 00:02:00 - [81] you would think it would have either killed you when you were on approach, or with some warrior IIs. ah well, Lovely kill wtb, month old pilot with ogre IIs and a domi
needrandomnamegenerator	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:18:00 - [82] Expect a care package Leeloo, gonna make sure you don't run out of rifters anytime soon
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:20:00 - [83] lol, v nice kill, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA at the united, what a bunch of *****s
Mr LaboratoryRat Confederation of DuckTape Lovers	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:05:00 - [84] dont u love these dum pilots that dont know how too fly a ship and fit it propery... T2 ammo shame on u, only long range ammo, shame on u. No scram, shame on u. not well fitted low slots, shame on u. No faction webber shame on u. Damn this is a crappy fit, 4/10 to the arazu pilot, think what your target group is before messing around in eft. Example dampers too kill small ships? better fit a scram + faction (ts 15km ) web (or 2 even better) and did u ever heard of t2 ammo's tracking penalty?
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 16:43:00 - [85] Originally by: sakana lol, v nice kill, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA at the united, what a bunch of *****s ______________________________________________
Leeloo Malaquin Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.04.21 16:44:00 - [86] Originally by: needrandomnamegenerator Expect a care package Leeloo, gonna make sure you don't run out of rifters anytime soon Thanks man! I planned on moving to T2 stuff soonish so you can be sure those items you gave me are going to see some action :)
Phil MacMannon Shitterdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 16:47:00 - [87] Seems like several people had the idea to give him more rifters.
Leeloo Malaquin Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.04.21 17:06:00 - [88] Originally by: Phil MacMannon Seems like several people had the idea to give him more rifters. lol, now I'm confused. I just got your contract today and assumed that guy was your alt or something. :) Anyway, thanks for the rifters and T2 items.
The Monkeysphere The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:39:00 - [89] Great kill. Here's to hoping that this marks a beginning for you in killing people absolutely terrible at this game.
UniToxic Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:03:00 - [90] Congratulation's I am fairly new to the game, however that is some achievement, it now gives me hope that if I am careful, I don't need to run away from every "red" I see.

Hey You Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.04.22 01:45:00 - [91] Lmfao Gratz United ROFL oh wai.... Nice job for the new guy :P Keep it up :P Best thread in a while __________________________________
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.22 06:58:00 - [92] Originally by: The Monkeysphere Great kill. Here's to hoping that this marks a beginning for you in killing people absolutely terrible at this game. You'd know all about it ______________________________________________
Tyranis Marcus	Posted - 2009.04.25 19:01:00 - [93] Nice kill, man!


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