only care for isk/hour
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unless you are an elitest pirate ship owner you got no chance...

Just wondering, how is this different to the top isk-earning actions in lowsec/nullsec/w-space? Bring multi-billion isk ships for max efficiency or go do something else like markets or moons.

Simi posting a killmail wont change the thing that low sec is safe. You have systems that have more kills and are high sec, it all depends on where you are to be honest. But there are many many systems that you see like 3 to 5 people regulars and are low sec. Most of the times after a while you can set standing with those people , you know who the pirates are , who are safe . That of course doest change the fact you can be killed , but thats also apply on many of the mission hubs areas for example if you have something shinny worth killing. Also most of the times high sec kills are more isk / worthy (trade route indy's , fr , mission boats ) that give better killmails and more profit ofc (although piracy has decreased a bit) . (have you seen the eve univercity vs RnB killmails ? almost 500 ppl on high sec )

I agree to that local change you mentioned It needs a lot of effort but if it is ever been done it will start the low sec tears because many people will actually have danger involved when they farm isk.

As far as ratting at nullsec inside an alliance .. hmmm. It not that dangerous either. You have intel , d-scan , local , your own scouts to pretty much do it the safest way possible.

From my point of view ccp went 2 far with the incursion nerfs. Money should have lowered , but not at this rate. Also the mechanics are .... making it not enjoyable to the people that were doing it for the community part . I also believe that it affected the rest on a negative way. Lets assume someone could actually play 3 days and have their plex from incursions (it can be done from plexing if you lucky in less less time on low sec , most of the time you have it around 5 days ) and the other 2 to fund few ships. Those ships could cover my pvp on low sec - null sec because that very person wont be thinking about losing his ship (to my advantage) and get a new one.

With level 4 farming and incursion as it is now , how many days he needs to get the isk for plex and ships ? Defenetely more so defenetely less days to come to me to pvp or try to have fun with the game. I see it like that , dont get me wrong

Incursions were that before they ripped the arse out of them but apparently assualts are the step up from VG's and unless you have the racial skills and support skills for pirate ships (which ISN are currenly asking for) then assualts are gonna be an elitest activity completed by elitest teams... at least with VGs you could run them in traditaional ships / navy ships and still have a good time.....

sorry but i get more competition or radars and mags on high space.

I got a lot of low sec systems in my area of roaming that i am solo or 1-2 people max. I can provide you with many local pictures if you would like. Maybe the low sec systems you are have people and you choose to be there to have people on local.

But either way a titan from incursion farming is just ... lol . You can top the isk/hour incursion had with level 5. To be honest you can tottaly laught at that rate if you have been farming level 5s. Not to mention T2 bpo owners . From the money side of view i see a lot of choices that were and still are viable for more isk/hour than incursion were

then what stop you from running L5s??

stfu and go grind L5s, or cus all the pirates around L5 hub **** your anus??

hi troll

Hey guys

We're looking into the Incursions right now. Our changes had varying degrees of success and this is my view on it currently:

Making NPC groups dynamic and stopping blitzing works as intended for Vanguards. I'm considering reversing the 10% income change, to increase their value slightly again.

For assaults, I think the NPC groups work fine as well, but the difficulty might have gotten a little too high.

Comments?

So CCP Soundwave after a month and a half of looking what are the stats looking like? The assaults are still stacking NCN's like pancakes. The only null sec incursion in 2 months to be touched is currently in Razor and looks to be stalling and OTA difficulty makes them a pirahha of the Vangurd system. CCP Affiniity showed some interest but has closed her thread 3 weeks ago & now silence.

She probably closed her thread due to constructive commentary like yours.

and here I thought it was because of trolling & incompetant statisics like yours

Hey guys

We're looking into the Incursions right now. Our changes had varying degrees of success and this is my view on it currently:

Making NPC groups dynamic and stopping blitzing works as intended for Vanguards. I'm considering reversing the 10% income change, to increase their value slightly again.

For assaults, I think the NPC groups work fine as well, but the difficulty might have gotten a little too high.

Comments?

Damn Darth Your face is ugly. You must have been huffing and puffing so bad about vanguard nerfs that you go so pale and ugly.

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I run assault and HQ's and (snip)

Incursions overall are just fine, as the influence gets lower players should strive for higher level sites, instead of sitting at 2nd class vanguards.

I've been trying to bring in new blood to Incursions with the Vanguards... you know have them make ISK so they can afford to do the shinier HQ fleets... pretty soon the VG's are going to DIE as a trainning ground & you're going to find the HQ's will be tufer & tuffer to do fighting the RED bar IMHO.

So CCP Soundwave, Affinity, or Diagoras any stats about Incursions post NERF?

I've got some: 99% of your posts are unconstructive :buffincursions: whining.

Carebears whining, then other people whine about carebears. Stop complaining, people have their own isk fountains, don't ruin it for them. The goons have their moon goo, atleast the carebears have incursions and wormholes