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Van'Helsing	Posted - 2004.08.27 06:38:00 - [1] H) 2x 250mm Rail with AM (market variety - trying to get carbide or compressed) H) 1x 250mm Barbide Rail with AM (trying to get compressed) M) 1x 10MN MWD M) 2x Named Medium Cap Boosters (150's or 100's or 75's) M) 1x Shield Hardener (EM seems to work best against Serpentis) L) 1x Med Armor Rep II L) 2x RCU I's (don't yet have skills to use RCU II's) L) 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Works well enough against L3 Agent Kill Missions even the ones what spam heavy missiles. The only problem is having enough Cap Booster Charges in cargo hold - some battles can consume 10 or more. I would want to have 4x 250mm Rails but the setup above uses 1133 grid. I realize this isn't the best setup for PvP but then I'm not doing any PvP with it. Anyone got any suggestions ?
Van'Helsing	Posted - 2004.08.27 06:38:00 - [2] H) 2x 250mm Rail with AM (market variety - trying to get carbide or compressed) H) 1x 250mm Barbide Rail with AM (trying to get compressed) M) 1x 10MN MWD M) 2x Named Medium Cap Boosters (150's or 100's or 75's) M) 1x Shield Hardener (EM seems to work best against Serpentis) L) 1x Med Armor Rep II L) 2x RCU I's (don't yet have skills to use RCU II's) L) 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Works well enough against L3 Agent Kill Missions even the ones what spam heavy missiles. The only problem is having enough Cap Booster Charges in cargo hold - some battles can consume 10 or more. I would want to have 4x 250mm Rails but the setup above uses 1133 grid. I realize this isn't the best setup for PvP but then I'm not doing any PvP with it. Anyone got any suggestions ?
Heelay Ashrum	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:01:00 - [3] my setup is: hi: 4x 250mm, 1x heavy launcher, 1x standard launcher med: 1x 10mn MWD, 1x med shied booster, 2x cap rechargers low: 2x hybrid dammage mods, 2x power relays On hybrids i use iridium ammos ( > 60km fire range ), on launcher i have kinetic heavy missiles, on standard launcher i have defenders ( never used ;-) ). I warp on 60km far and keep distance, shot all without being hitted one time ( nobody catch u on this distance ). If u get an > 100k pirate leave it for last, and if u ca'nt destroy it only with turrets & iridium, swith on thorium ammos & go 40km far and use also missiles. Personally i kill also 100k pirates only with iridium ammos & 60km far, but this depends on your skills, if u ca'nt simply use also launcher.
Heelay Ashrum	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:01:00 - [4] my setup is: hi: 4x 250mm, 1x heavy launcher, 1x standard launcher med: 1x 10mn MWD, 1x med shied booster, 2x cap rechargers low: 2x hybrid dammage mods, 2x power relays On hybrids i use iridium ammos ( > 60km fire range ), on launcher i have kinetic heavy missiles, on standard launcher i have defenders ( never used ;-) ). I warp on 60km far and keep distance, shot all without being hitted one time ( nobody catch u on this distance ). If u get an > 100k pirate leave it for last, and if u ca'nt destroy it only with turrets & iridium, swith on thorium ammos & go 40km far and use also missiles. Personally i kill also 100k pirates only with iridium ammos & 60km far, but this depends on your skills, if u ca'nt simply use also launcher.
Boonaki	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:05:00 - [5] you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Boonaki	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:05:00 - [6] you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Grischu	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:07:00 - [7] Edited by: Grischu on 27/08/2004 08:09:26 my setup is: hi: 4x 250mm, 2x heavy launcher med: 1x med shield booster II, 3x cap rechargers low: 1x hybrid dammage mods, 2x RCU I, 1x nanofiber i use Antimatter for the rails and Thunderbolt/Widowmaker for the launcher. Warp at 40km
Grischu	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:07:00 - [8] Edited by: Grischu on 27/08/2004 08:09:26 my setup is: hi: 4x 250mm, 2x heavy launcher med: 1x med shield booster II, 3x cap rechargers low: 1x hybrid dammage mods, 2x RCU I, 1x nanofiber i use Antimatter for the rails and Thunderbolt/Widowmaker for the launcher. Warp at 40km
Heelay Ashrum	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:25:00 - [9] Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 27/08/2004 08:27:23 Originally by: Boonaki you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. U realy think i do'nt thinked on that? To fit a second heavy launcher i need more powercore and i can chose to take of a dammage mod ( bad idea) or put 2 x power realys II, but actually i prefer not spend money to fit a second launcher if i never use the one i already have. ;-)
Heelay Ashrum	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:25:00 - [10] Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 27/08/2004 08:27:23 Originally by: Boonaki you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. U realy think i do'nt thinked on that? To fit a second heavy launcher i need more powercore and i can chose to take of a dammage mod ( bad idea) or put 2 x power realys II, but actually i prefer not spend money to fit a second launcher if i never use the one i already have. ;-)
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:39:00 - [11] Moa setup: 4x250mm railgun (i use proto gauss) 2xhvy launcher (i use arbalests) 1xmedium shield booster (i use C5-L but tech2 is good) 2xhardners 1xshield boost amp 2xRCU 1xmag field (tech2) 1xtracking comp (tech2) If fighting serpentis use a thermal + kinetic hardner, serps dont do any EM dmg at all. Use AM in the rails, with half decent skillz u can hit at 40km +. Usual dmg ~100. Most cruiser last 4-5 volleys max, frigs need to be dealt with early cos if they get close the 250's wont hit. Shield is never down lower than 70%. Only problem is u need a good agent that doesnt send u more than 1 system away. And if your looking for a compressed coil contact my bro (Phearr in game) cos i got one but dont have access to internet cept at work. He will sort u out with it, just tell him i sent you. 3.5mil a fair price Forums: Sharks - MC
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:39:00 - [12] Moa setup: 4x250mm railgun (i use proto gauss) 2xhvy launcher (i use arbalests) 1xmedium shield booster (i use C5-L but tech2 is good) 2xhardners 1xshield boost amp 2xRCU 1xmag field (tech2) 1xtracking comp (tech2) If fighting serpentis use a thermal + kinetic hardner, serps dont do any EM dmg at all. Use AM in the rails, with half decent skillz u can hit at 40km +. Usual dmg ~100. Most cruiser last 4-5 volleys max, frigs need to be dealt with early cos if they get close the 250's wont hit. Shield is never down lower than 70%. Only problem is u need a good agent that doesnt send u more than 1 system away. And if your looking for a compressed coil contact my bro (Phearr in game) cos i got one but dont have access to internet cept at work. He will sort u out with it, just tell him i sent you. 3.5mil a fair price Forums: Sharks - MC
DarK	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:47:00 - [13] Hi: 4 x 250mm rails(various named) Med: 1 x Med shield booster II 3 x tracking computers II Low: 2 x tracking enhancer II 2 x magfield II Gets a damage mod of around 4.5 - 5 and if using antimatter you get 45km orso(cruiser5, sharpshooter4). Kills things very quickly and if they get to around 10km you should still be able to get good hits and kill them, thanks to better tracking. I don't bother with missiles for agent missions, totally unnecessary and expensive.
DarK	Posted - 2004.08.27 08:47:00 - [14] Hi: 4 x 250mm rails(various named) Med: 1 x Med shield booster II 3 x tracking computers II Low: 2 x tracking enhancer II 2 x magfield II Gets a damage mod of around 4.5 - 5 and if using antimatter you get 45km orso(cruiser5, sharpshooter4). Kills things very quickly and if they get to around 10km you should still be able to get good hits and kill them, thanks to better tracking. I don't bother with missiles for agent missions, totally unnecessary and expensive.
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:50:00 - [15] This is it : 3 250 mm rails 1 150 mm rail 2 assault launchers 1 10 MN MWD 2 Tracking Comps 1 Med shield booster 3 Hybrid Dmg Mods 1 Signal Amp Warp in at 60 using the ammo for your skills to achieve and maintain an effective range at 45-50km. ------- K. Raven
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:50:00 - [16] This is it : 3 250 mm rails 1 150 mm rail 2 assault launchers 1 10 MN MWD 2 Tracking Comps 1 Med shield booster 3 Hybrid Dmg Mods 1 Signal Amp Warp in at 60 using the ammo for your skills to achieve and maintain an effective range at 45-50km. ------- K. Raven
Sgt Mayhem	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:12:00 - [17] Originally by: Eyeshadow Moa setup: 4x250mm railgun (i use proto gauss) 2xhvy launcher (i use arbalests) 1xmedium shield booster (i use C5-L but tech2 is good) 2xhardners 1xshield boost amp 2xRCU 1xmag field (tech2) 1xtracking comp (tech2) If fighting serpentis use a thermal + kinetic hardner, serps dont do any EM dmg at all. Use AM in the rails, with half decent skillz u can hit at 40km +. Usual dmg ~100. Most cruiser last 4-5 volleys max, frigs need to be dealt with early cos if they get close the 250's wont hit. Shield is never down lower than 70%. Only problem is u need a good agent that doesnt send u more than 1 system away. And if your looking for a compressed coil contact my bro (Phearr in game) cos i got one but dont have access to internet cept at work. He will sort u out with it, just tell him i sent you. 3.5mil a fair price Isn't the Tracking Computer a medium slot?? i guess you mean tracking enhancer?? Regards Sgt Mayhem * Any non-greedy corps with the BPO doing a more reasonable pricing structure? * Are you serious? This is eve mate.
Sgt Mayhem	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Eyeshadow Moa setup: 4x250mm railgun (i use proto gauss) 2xhvy launcher (i use arbalests) 1xmedium shield booster (i use C5-L but tech2 is good) 2xhardners 1xshield boost amp 2xRCU 1xmag field (tech2) 1xtracking comp (tech2) If fighting serpentis use a thermal + kinetic hardner, serps dont do any EM dmg at all. Use AM in the rails, with half decent skillz u can hit at 40km +. Usual dmg ~100. Most cruiser last 4-5 volleys max, frigs need to be dealt with early cos if they get close the 250's wont hit. Shield is never down lower than 70%. Only problem is u need a good agent that doesnt send u more than 1 system away. And if your looking for a compressed coil contact my bro (Phearr in game) cos i got one but dont have access to internet cept at work. He will sort u out with it, just tell him i sent you. 3.5mil a fair price Isn't the Tracking Computer a medium slot?? i guess you mean tracking enhancer?? Regards Sgt Mayhem * Any non-greedy corps with the BPO doing a more reasonable pricing structure? * Are you serious? This is eve mate.
Sarinas	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Heelay Ashrum Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 27/08/2004 08:27:23 Originally by: Boonaki you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. U realy think i do'nt thinked on that? To fit a second heavy launcher i need more powercore and i can chose to take of a dammage mod ( bad idea) or put 2 x power realys II, but actually i prefer not spend money to fit a second launcher if i never use the one i already have. ;-) He said ASSAULT launcher, not HEAVY. --- I bring you joy, I bring you pain, I bring you some sunshine And some rain.
Sarinas	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Heelay Ashrum Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 27/08/2004 08:27:23 Originally by: Boonaki you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. U realy think i do'nt thinked on that? To fit a second heavy launcher i need more powercore and i can chose to take of a dammage mod ( bad idea) or put 2 x power realys II, but actually i prefer not spend money to fit a second launcher if i never use the one i already have. ;-) He said ASSAULT launcher, not HEAVY. --- I bring you joy, I bring you pain, I bring you some sunshine And some rain.
Heelay Ashrum	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:55:00 - [21] Originally by: Sarinas Originally by: Heelay Ashrum Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 27/08/2004 08:27:23 Originally by: Boonaki you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. U realy think i do'nt thinked on that? To fit a second heavy launcher i need more powercore and i can chose to take of a dammage mod ( bad idea) or put 2 x power realys II, but actually i prefer not spend money to fit a second launcher if i never use the one i already have. ;-) He said ASSAULT launcher, not HEAVY. Oh my good, u guys are realy too precise, i just typed wrong! I have 10 powercore left ( and yes, i have engineering 5 ), so i cant mount neither an heavy launcher, neither an assault launcher. The only launcher i could put was the standard one. As i told before i can put better launcher fitting tech2 power relays, but i did'nt did that because i never used any missile, so i do'nt care this difference.
Heelay Ashrum	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Sarinas Originally by: Heelay Ashrum Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 27/08/2004 08:27:23 Originally by: Boonaki you might be better off going for an assault launcher over a std launbcher on a cruiser. better rof, holds waaaay more missiles. U realy think i do'nt thinked on that? To fit a second heavy launcher i need more powercore and i can chose to take of a dammage mod ( bad idea) or put 2 x power realys II, but actually i prefer not spend money to fit a second launcher if i never use the one i already have. ;-) He said ASSAULT launcher, not HEAVY. Oh my good, u guys are realy too precise, i just typed wrong! I have 10 powercore left ( and yes, i have engineering 5 ), so i cant mount neither an heavy launcher, neither an assault launcher. The only launcher i could put was the standard one. As i told before i can put better launcher fitting tech2 power relays, but i did'nt did that because i never used any missile, so i do'nt care this difference.
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.08.27 12:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Sgt Mayhem Isn't the Tracking Computer a medium slot?? i guess you mean tracking enhancer?? you know wot i mean Forums: Sharks - MC
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.08.27 12:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Sgt Mayhem Isn't the Tracking Computer a medium slot?? i guess you mean tracking enhancer?? you know wot i mean Forums: Sharks - MC
101110101101	Posted - 2004.08.27 16:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Van'Helsing H) 2x 250mm Rail with AM (market variety - trying to get carbide or compressed) H) 1x 250mm Barbide Rail with AM (trying to get compressed) M) 1x 10MN MWD M) 2x Named Medium Cap Boosters (150's or 100's or 75's) M) 1x Shield Hardener (EM seems to work best against Serpentis) L) 1x Med Armor Rep II L) 2x RCU I's (don't yet have skills to use RCU II's) L) 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Works well enough against L3 Agent Kill Missions even the ones what spam heavy missiles. The only problem is having enough Cap Booster Charges in cargo hold - some battles can consume 10 or more. I would want to have 4x 250mm Rails but the setup above uses 1133 grid. I realize this isn't the best setup for PvP but then I'm not doing any PvP with it. Anyone got any suggestions ? Well I must say I am quite surprised I wasn't flamed at all over my lame MOA setup since I was sure having only 3 guns like a Celestis was lame - or is it just that the MOA is just so lame being a Tier 3 Cruiser and all versus the Celestis which is a Tier 2 Cruiser... anyway... thanks for the feedback.
101110101101	Posted - 2004.08.27 16:23:00 - [26] Originally by: Van'Helsing H) 2x 250mm Rail with AM (market variety - trying to get carbide or compressed) H) 1x 250mm Barbide Rail with AM (trying to get compressed) M) 1x 10MN MWD M) 2x Named Medium Cap Boosters (150's or 100's or 75's) M) 1x Shield Hardener (EM seems to work best against Serpentis) L) 1x Med Armor Rep II L) 2x RCU I's (don't yet have skills to use RCU II's) L) 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Works well enough against L3 Agent Kill Missions even the ones what spam heavy missiles. The only problem is having enough Cap Booster Charges in cargo hold - some battles can consume 10 or more. I would want to have 4x 250mm Rails but the setup above uses 1133 grid. I realize this isn't the best setup for PvP but then I'm not doing any PvP with it. Anyone got any suggestions ? Well I must say I am quite surprised I wasn't flamed at all over my lame MOA setup since I was sure having only 3 guns like a Celestis was lame - or is it just that the MOA is just so lame being a Tier 3 Cruiser and all versus the Celestis which is a Tier 2 Cruiser... anyway... thanks for the feedback.
Krendig	Posted - 2004.08.28 06:20:00 - [27] Celestis can't take nearly the beating a Moa with a good sized booster and a couple hardeners can take. And actually, my preferred setup was 3x 250mm RG, 2x Heavy Launcher, 1x smartbomb-- Used the smartbomb for missile defense, and kept the missile launchers loaded with heavies. --Krendig
Krendig	Posted - 2004.08.28 06:20:00 - [28] Celestis can't take nearly the beating a Moa with a good sized booster and a couple hardeners can take. And actually, my preferred setup was 3x 250mm RG, 2x Heavy Launcher, 1x smartbomb-- Used the smartbomb for missile defense, and kept the missile launchers loaded with heavies. --Krendig
Petr Sorokin	Posted - 2004.08.28 06:32:00 - [29] For L3 agent missions you really don't need hardners, repairers at all. Since you won't ever get hit. 4x 250mm rails 1x heavy launcher 1x std launcher 1x 10mn mwd 1x cap recharger 1x tracking comp 1x med shield booster 1x mag field stabilizer 1x reactor control units 2x power diagnostic system With that you can easily hit at 60km even with lead ammo and there aren't any mission npcs who can even hit you at that range. As your gunnery skills improve you can just slowly drop down the ammo list using ever heavier ammo and still staying 50-60km from the enemy. Need to keep the mwd since enough of the L3 mission rats carry them. With lead and compressed coil 250s you can get wrecking hits into the 200s, most fights aren't very long even against 100k pirates. As others have said the launchers are kind of an after thought you don't really need them. Not quite enough grid to get 2 heavy launchers in there or to drop the rcu for another pds. Actually L3 missions are pretty dull in a Moa none of them are challenging at all once you have a few skills under your belt. The NPCs you fight are nearly all set up for close range fighting and are totally ineffective at the long ranges the Moa can hit from.
Petr Sorokin	Posted - 2004.08.28 06:32:00 - [30] For L3 agent missions you really don't need hardners, repairers at all. Since you won't ever get hit. 4x 250mm rails 1x heavy launcher 1x std launcher 1x 10mn mwd 1x cap recharger 1x tracking comp 1x med shield booster 1x mag field stabilizer 1x reactor control units 2x power diagnostic system With that you can easily hit at 60km even with lead ammo and there aren't any mission npcs who can even hit you at that range. As your gunnery skills improve you can just slowly drop down the ammo list using ever heavier ammo and still staying 50-60km from the enemy. Need to keep the mwd since enough of the L3 mission rats carry them. With lead and compressed coil 250s you can get wrecking hits into the 200s, most fights aren't very long even against 100k pirates. As others have said the launchers are kind of an after thought you don't really need them. Not quite enough grid to get 2 heavy launchers in there or to drop the rcu for another pds. Actually L3 missions are pretty dull in a Moa none of them are challenging at all once you have a few skills under your belt. The NPCs you fight are nearly all set up for close range fighting and are totally ineffective at the long ranges the Moa can hit from.
slothe	Posted - 2004.08.28 10:34:00 - [31] Originally by: Petr Sorokin For L3 agent missions you really don't need hardners, repairers at all. Since you won't ever get hit. what agent missions are you doing in your moa? courier missions? Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
slothe	Posted - 2004.08.28 10:34:00 - [32] Originally by: Petr Sorokin For L3 agent missions you really don't need hardners, repairers at all. Since you won't ever get hit. what agent missions are you doing in your moa? courier missions? Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.08.28 16:18:00 - [33] Originally by: DarK Hi: 4 x 250mm rails(various named) Med: 1 x Med shield booster II 3 x tracking computers II Low: 2 x tracking enhancer II 2 x magfield II Gets a damage mod of around 4.5 - 5 and if using antimatter you get 45km orso(cruiser5, sharpshooter4). Kills things very quickly and if they get to around 10km you should still be able to get good hits and kill them, thanks to better tracking. I don't bother with missiles for agent missions, totally unnecessary and expensive. I`m just curious dont you suffer penalties when using more than 1 of each tracking computer and enhancher? _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.08.28 16:18:00 - [34] Originally by: DarK Hi: 4 x 250mm rails(various named) Med: 1 x Med shield booster II 3 x tracking computers II Low: 2 x tracking enhancer II 2 x magfield II Gets a damage mod of around 4.5 - 5 and if using antimatter you get 45km orso(cruiser5, sharpshooter4). Kills things very quickly and if they get to around 10km you should still be able to get good hits and kill them, thanks to better tracking. I don't bother with missiles for agent missions, totally unnecessary and expensive. I`m just curious dont you suffer penalties when using more than 1 of each tracking computer and enhancher? _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
Krendig	Posted - 2004.08.30 03:20:00 - [35] Well, it's a penalty in the sense that each additional modules gives less of a bonus than the previous one. But you still get "more". Just not as much. --Krendig
Krendig	Posted - 2004.08.30 03:20:00 - [36] Well, it's a penalty in the sense that each additional modules gives less of a bonus than the previous one. But you still get "more". Just not as much. --Krendig
DarK	Posted - 2004.08.30 04:20:00 - [37] The stacking penalty isn't so bad with tracking enhancers, so it works out nicely.
DarK	Posted - 2004.08.30 04:20:00 - [38] The stacking penalty isn't so bad with tracking enhancers, so it works out nicely.
Marcus Soban	Posted - 2004.08.30 06:14:00 - [39] Edited by: Marcus Soban on 30/08/2004 06:17:46 For long range, tracking comps and enhancers are a waste, you shouldn't have a problem hitting targets at long range using rails. If you're gonna plug AM ammo in rails, then it could be useful, but then AM ammo in rails isn't that great for doing level 3 agent missions in a Moa. Edit: Actually, the optimum range boost I suppose is nice, but I'd personally reconsider it...
Marcus Soban	Posted - 2004.08.30 06:14:00 - [40] Edited by: Marcus Soban on 30/08/2004 06:17:46 For long range, tracking comps and enhancers are a waste, you shouldn't have a problem hitting targets at long range using rails. If you're gonna plug AM ammo in rails, then it could be useful, but then AM ammo in rails isn't that great for doing level 3 agent missions in a Moa. Edit: Actually, the optimum range boost I suppose is nice, but I'd personally reconsider it...
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.08.30 07:37:00 - [41] When you're optimal range is 45km with uranium, or 35km with antimatter, not to mention 100km with iron, those tracking comps aren't so worthless. Better damage over range. ------- K. Raven
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.08.30 07:37:00 - [42] When you're optimal range is 45km with uranium, or 35km with antimatter, not to mention 100km with iron, those tracking comps aren't so worthless. Better damage over range. ------- K. Raven
Diicc Tater	Posted - 2004.08.30 09:23:00 - [43] Well, with the risk of being the laughing stock here goes. 4 250mm (variuos named) rails --changing ammo as needed, plutonium, AM, Irid... 2 heavy launchers (Arbalest) --Widows, thunders and sco.. 1 med SB II 1 AB 10 1 passive kinetic 1 balistic deflect or other (changing this one around just to test) 1 CPU II 2 PDU (or the other way around 1 RCU don't worry to much about it) Have found this to be an easy to use setup. Really don't need the one med with the module that need activation so I guess I could jam something else in there.... Keeping range and just hitting worst foe first has kept me alive for a long time now....what the setup can't handle tactics will have to fix. The Blockade will need a few chicken-warps to get the distance if you do it solo. I still get both the rew and bonus and all the loot. Helpfull thread ppl, thanks.
Diicc Tater	Posted - 2004.08.30 09:23:00 - [44] Well, with the risk of being the laughing stock here goes. 4 250mm (variuos named) rails --changing ammo as needed, plutonium, AM, Irid... 2 heavy launchers (Arbalest) --Widows, thunders and sco.. 1 med SB II 1 AB 10 1 passive kinetic 1 balistic deflect or other (changing this one around just to test) 1 CPU II 2 PDU (or the other way around 1 RCU don't worry to much about it) Have found this to be an easy to use setup. Really don't need the one med with the module that need activation so I guess I could jam something else in there.... Keeping range and just hitting worst foe first has kept me alive for a long time now....what the setup can't handle tactics will have to fix. The Blockade will need a few chicken-warps to get the distance if you do it solo. I still get both the rew and bonus and all the loot. Helpfull thread ppl, thanks.
Frost88	Posted - 2004.08.30 10:17:00 - [45] They keep doing it! It is a Moa, it is a ******* bird! Not a MOA it does not stand for anything! ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Frost88	Posted - 2004.08.30 10:17:00 - [46] They keep doing it! It is a Moa, it is a ******* bird! Not a MOA it does not stand for anything! ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Raeff	Posted - 2004.08.30 15:16:00 - [47] i find this works quite well, even if they do get close: HI: 4x 250 Scouts / 2x Heavy launchers MID: Med Shield Boost II / 2x Hardeners / AB or Cap recharge LOW: 3x Power diags / 1x Mag II damage mod I have never dropped below half cap or half shield on lvl 3 missions, even when they get as close as 5km. Remember to take a variety of ammo for different ranges, and dont forget a few drones .. If you cap does start to get low, turn off yer guns and let the missiles and drones handle the rats for a bit.
Raeff	Posted - 2004.08.30 15:16:00 - [48] i find this works quite well, even if they do get close: HI: 4x 250 Scouts / 2x Heavy launchers MID: Med Shield Boost II / 2x Hardeners / AB or Cap recharge LOW: 3x Power diags / 1x Mag II damage mod I have never dropped below half cap or half shield on lvl 3 missions, even when they get as close as 5km. Remember to take a variety of ammo for different ranges, and dont forget a few drones .. If you cap does start to get low, turn off yer guns and let the missiles and drones handle the rats for a bit.
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.08.30 18:51:00 - [49] I just tried a new setup that was quite nice: hi: 4x 150mm 2x standard launchers med: 2x large shield extenders 1x shield booster 1x medium cap extender low: 2x Co-processors 1 2x Power Diagnostic System I I know the bonus and all and this was just for fun but can you belive the Moa can have 4200 shield!! I did a lvl 3 mission with this setup and I didnt even have to boost the shields once. The recharge is insane compared to amount of shield. The 150mm did ok damage but I fitted AM and had to change to iridium to hit the ascriber when it tried to keep distanse from me. Mostly the problem was low cpu when I was fitting or else I could have fitted assault launchers too. _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.08.30 18:51:00 - [50] I just tried a new setup that was quite nice: hi: 4x 150mm 2x standard launchers med: 2x large shield extenders 1x shield booster 1x medium cap extender low: 2x Co-processors 1 2x Power Diagnostic System I I know the bonus and all and this was just for fun but can you belive the Moa can have 4200 shield!! I did a lvl 3 mission with this setup and I didnt even have to boost the shields once. The recharge is insane compared to amount of shield. The 150mm did ok damage but I fitted AM and had to change to iridium to hit the ascriber when it tried to keep distanse from me. Mostly the problem was low cpu when I was fitting or else I could have fitted assault launchers too. _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.08.31 07:22:00 - [51] Now i finished the 6 bm lvl 3 mission and I dint have to bost my shild once. This is funnier than anything. Amazing what you can fit on a Moa. I recomend it :) _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.08.31 07:22:00 - [52] Now i finished the 6 bm lvl 3 mission and I dint have to bost my shild once. This is funnier than anything. Amazing what you can fit on a Moa. I recomend it :) _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877

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