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T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 00:49:00 - [151] Just noticed some people bashing Arcane (SoT guys aswel?!?!?).... Arcane put up more fights in fountain than PL and SoT combined over the 4 months or so we were fighting there... Well done to Arcane, they obviously needed SoT and PL to help them, but Arcane put up the most fights and were involved in more fights out of all 3. --
Lysander Kaldenn Caldari Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.21 01:49:00 - [152] Too bad puppets, now I have no one left to smack talk... But I know I'll see all my favorites again. Don't let this small set back break your spirit. Fountian is your ancestral homeland. Sure you have been dashed upon it's cruel rocks time and time again. Lift yourselves up. Prepare. Your glory will come, YOUR time is nigh.
Volar Kang Gallente Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 02:12:00 - [153] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Originally by: Aneu Angellus To all you Aneu haters, all i have to say is, lol. I actually don't hate you Aneu, I just think it's well beyond a co-incidence the number of times you 'happen' to be an innocent, injured bystander when these kind of dramas kick off. It's possible that you've just been extremely unlucky, but personally I don't buy that. Having seen the way you deal with people when you're under pressure I have little confidence in your intentions on this one. Originally by: Aneu Angellus the name is decided upon Oh god. I don't think even a forum full of imaginary spaceship pilots is ready for the level of Emo nameage we're about to get thrown at us. Promise me that it has an 'x' and a '.' Originally by: Aneu Angellus There comes a time when people stop listening to those who talk a load of good words but then dont produce. Try telling that to Butter Dog :( Anyway, all the best PMS. Windy... I live for your posts. Not a week goes by when I dont do a search to see what pearls of wisdom you have given us. I have been asked by my wife not to drink anymore when reading your posts because of a chronic drooling problem associated with reading your posts. DONT EVER STOP!!!!!
AcheLone Caldari Pleasure Planets and Pie Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.04.21 03:31:00 - [154] awwww now i don't a chance to put my torps to any hostile ship since nobody want to tackle... its interesting to play in fountain.... to bad it just over when i just warming up.....well cowardly of course
RobertoLuongo Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 04:34:00 - [155] Originally by: AcheLone awwww now i don't a chance to put my torps to any hostile ship since nobody want to tackle... its interesting to play in fountain.... to bad it just over when i just warming up.....well cowardly of course quoting because wat :\|
Ethion Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 06:27:00 - [156] In a bit late... but I must say I'm very aroused... I really enjoyed my time in fountain... before the recruitfest began (which I was always against) There were some truely epic fights... Fuppet (pms/foe) fleet vs arcane and SoT in D4K gave me a raging mongrel... Arcane for the amount of smack we gave you... you always fought which I loved... I hope you learnt alot from the pew.. You did improve... to SoT... Mixed feelings.. some good fights although you learnt early to usually double our numbers before engaging which was fine (made me feel like a big man).. admitedly down the track it just got crap... No x'ing up.. no forward momentum 'who are these people in allliance?' TBH I just ignored aneu... he was just a buffoon posting in alliance mail... It came down to recruiting too many corps who had too many noobs... To the folks hanging around.. trim your fat and ** ** up as usual... It's all about the PVP and I am still very aroused Live free or Not at all
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 07:53:00 - [157] Tbh Ethion, i didnt even listen to Ari... He was one of the new people that everyone was confused and dismayed by (Becuase everyone said... But once again noone listened). Completly unknown to the people of the alliance then he arrives calling himself "god" and barking out orders and rules.... Whatever, its all in the past now. --
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 07:58:00 - [158] Originally by: djNME Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3 Nice vote of confidence right there. :) Anyways, yeah he might be right. But he has been wrong so many times and ****ed up and lied so many times there's extremely little faith in general from EVE towards him and basically that will always work against him, the bigger the alliance the bigger the trouble and it makes me confident to say that he nor DAB (aslong as Aneu is in DAB) will be able to take a leading role in any medium to large size alliance that is reasonably succesfull, not in a stable, long term way anyway. You should cut him loose tbfh and work towards refinding what once DAB great, a couple of partners that complemented your pvp knowledge and made DAB good in a number of ways. :D --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:10:00 - [159] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 21/04/2009 07:58:19 Originally by: djNME Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3 Nice vote of confidence right there. :) Anyways, yeah he might be right. But he has been wrong so many times and ****ed up and lied so many times there's extremely little faith in general from EVE towards him and basically that will always work against him, the bigger the alliance the bigger the trouble and it makes me confident to say that he nor DAB (aslong as Aneu is in DAB) will be able to take a leading role in any medium to large size alliance that is reasonably succesfull, not in a stable, long term way anyway. You should cut him loose tbfh and work towards refinding what once made DAB great, a couple of partners that complemented your pvp knowledge and made DAB good in a number of ways. :D Wasn't he in razor for half a year?
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:15:00 - [160] Not in any leading capacity. He started off as a grunt in CEI, where he caused endless amount of troubles. Then went over to DAB because we got tired of his antics and Dj promised to control him. Now since DAB has left RZR he's apparently some kind of leadership type in DAB though. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"

Twoside Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:17:00 - [161] Edited by: Twoside on 21/04/2009 08:18:17 Edited by: Twoside on 21/04/2009 08:17:45 Originally by: djNME Edited by: djNME on 20/04/2009 16:13:52 Originally by: Twoside Originally by: Heptameron damnnit! you could have at least checked his hangar for the mythical mothership! in all seriousness i would put money on most of those who follow him will regret it. The guys an arrogant and devisive f*wit without the skills to back it up. Since when can a MS dock? Futhermore, a shame to see what djnme and aneu made of DAB, they were once better then OV you know.. (and probably still are tbqh) I know your slow twocent so let me explain. I have always been the CEO of DAB except for about 8 weeks of EVE. That means when we pwned all the rzr corps and when I lead fleets with praise from Fredo/others. I know your bitter, for what I'm not sure. Get over it. Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3 ROFL, quoting this so you can't edit it out. Don't let reality hit you in the way out, you're the reason DAB went from a respectable corporation to the ** it is today. And I'm not bitter about that, just sad to see how you guttered a flourishing corporation. Good luck in your future failures dewd, I'm sure there are many to come!
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:23:00 - [162] I see Razor still love me. Don't be so venomous since all we did was try to show people how CEI were using other corporations to make them isk. Calm down - ITS A GAME! lol. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:32:00 - [163] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Calm down - ITS A GAME! lol. Irony overload.
HakerElite Caldari Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:02:00 - [164] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Over the past week myself and Malet both tried to get a backbone running for the alliance Really? Because I don't seem to remember you doing anything.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:11:00 - [165] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 21/04/2009 09:13:01 Originally by: HakerElite Originally by: Aneu Angellus Over the past week myself and Malet both tried to get a backbone running for the alliance Really? Because I don't seem to remember you doing anything. Yes - Because there was no 50 MP BS gang with about 9 dreads, 2 motherships and 4 carriers hitting POS's in Aridia was there? For two days in a row... Iv never professed to being a main FC but i do step up when others dont and things need to get done. Wasp - None of my posts have been rage nor crying, they have been statements of fact. Puppets in its most recent form has ended, a new era begins for all the corporations. I wish all corporations good luck with future endevours in whatever you my do, good fights to our old enemies and i look forward to fighting new ones. I play to enjoy and have fun... and thats exactly what im doing and am going to do. Aneu - your big fluffy lovable g@y ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:23:00 - [166] Edited by: T''Karr on 21/04/2009 09:26:58 tbh Aneu is right... Malet and Aneu were always talking about getting things back on track (And they did form a few fleets and ops to help with it, and the POS bashing one in Aridia to try and make us money...) So cut Aneu some slack... I think the original Ari post is VERY biased to what actualy happened and how Alliance members fealt, there were about 4 Corps thinking/already leeving PMS around the same time, and it had NOTHING to do with Aneu and it wasnt planned, it was just coincidence... The constant bickering and moaning from alliance members were just shrugged off by other senior alliance guys... As if nothing was happening, hense the big Corps leeving. It all went down hill when we thought we could possibly take PNQ. Why did we even bother? We should have just carried on from the success we had with D4, taking systems around us and close to us. We didnt NEED that station system (For isk, or for convenience). I suppose despite it going downhill after the PNQ saga, it didnt reely pick up befor that when PMS had several FoE corps join them.... because we went from a PvP alliance to a POS pewing and Space taking alliance. Which kinda put off a lot of alliance members. It's still a shame that we didnt just take fountain slowly and slowly like a bad infection instead we jumped everything we had at PNQ and took a massive morale drop when our BS fleet was ripped apart (They wernt tanked BS... heavy DPS with no reps since we were going for the station.......... so dont argue about that again SoT/Arcane/PL (Notice how ive moved SoT down the chain and Arcane up the chain ;) )). I need to stop myself from posting again !!! FOuntain was good fun, take care guys. --
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:53:00 - [167] tbh it doesnt suprise me at all that the truth is quite different to Ari's original post Corp 1 have a history of trying to spin failures and deflect blame, but when you look at the facts behind it things are not quite so rosy INSRG internally combusted after C4w3 was appointed leader - my corp immediately left because we knew what he was like, some others followed, and it became a shadow of its former self for a time before being put out of its misery then you have the whole Consortium/Requiem disaster, and now this its not a coincidence - history is simply repeating itself and it will wherever corp1 go (no offense guys, but you just can't lead alliances very well ) ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
0ren Ishii Amarr Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.21 10:47:00 - [168] Cry me a river ... we will colect all your tears Eve is an illnes there is no cure for !
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.04.21 11:00:00 - [169] Edited by: Shinnen on 21/04/2009 11:01:55 Originally by: T'Karr tbh Aneu is right... Malet and Aneu were always talking about getting things back on track (And they did form a few fleets and ops to help with it, and the POS bashing one in Aridia to try and make us money...) So cut Aneu some slack... I think the original Ari post is VERY biased to what actualy happened and how Alliance members fealt. This. Although I must say I didn't like the fact that Quam and DAB left PMS in the state that they did, this post is right. Malet and Aneu were the main ones running the EU pos-bashing and actual (alliance benefitting i.e. in Fountain) fleet ops. Anue's goals were different to what the alliance is now, Aneu was looking long term, and up until this weekend, so was the alliance. Last night there was a meeting was a ****-storm... alliance leadership were contradicting eachother and it was alltogether poorly organised. See you in the south boys ;)
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.04.21 11:31:00 - [170] I'll see you down south Shinnen. Our name is again, doubled contradiction in terms.

Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 13:16:00 - [171] This thread has definitely become lulz. Confirming all my fault and if we just would have listened to Aneu (i'm not dragging Malet into this), everything would have been great! Confirming I was totally ineffectual as a leader. Confirming none of the first two posts have any basis in fact and are 100% conjecture. Especially the part about Aneu trying to recruit all the old PMS corps. Confirming I never confronted Aneu! Confirming we shrugged off absolutely everything everyone said. (I have the epic posts on CEO forum to prove that we were not paying ANY ATTENTION AT ALL to what was going on and were TOTALLY DISCONNECTED from the problems and only Aneu could save us!) Confirming we could not possibly have taken PNQ. What a bad call. Confirming we didn't NEED that station system, and it was all the leadership's fault, and not a single CEO agreed to the decision! And if we just would have listened to Aneu... man. The guilt is really thick around my neck I think i'll go find a knife and stab myself with it... Originally by: Butter Dog INSRG internally combusted after C4w3 was appointed leader - my corp immediately left because we knew what he was like, some others followed, and it became a shadow of its former self for a time before being put out of its misery That's my favorite.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.21 13:22:00 - [172] Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 20/04/2009 13:58:16 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/) FOE do exist, and flew with us a bit in 0.0, but afaik unlike PMS, their primary goal was not to take 0.0 space. u would rather maintain hundreds (potentially) of POS? :P
Maxivo Gallente Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.21 13:58:00 - [173] Wasnt the original plan to be that when the alliance tourney ended, most of pms defected to FoE for the original plan of not takin space? Thought this was the whole point in bringing FoE back, now were just shoved to the back and no one (inc myself) seems to know whats happening with them?? Ive not logged in to eve since apocyrpha so this forum is all I have to go by. Someone please update me :). p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar??
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:33:00 - [174] Originally by: Maxivo Wasnt the original plan to be that when the alliance tourney ended, most of pms defected to FoE for the original plan of not takin space? Thought this was the whole point in bringing FoE back, now were just shoved to the back and no one (inc myself) seems to know whats happening with them?? Ive not logged in to eve since apocyrpha so this forum is all I have to go by. Someone please update me :). p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar?? Exactly.... we went from Not taking space... to trying to take PNQ. Ari, you might find that most CEO's and directors agree that taking PNQ was close to impossible. Nobody is saying that Aneu could have saved us, he's just getting a lot of unwarranted grief. I'd love to have read the CEO forums, all the great plans to get people PvPing and X'ing up again... I don't think anybody reely identified the problems within the Alliance fast enough or dealt with them fast enough. arrrgh stop me. --
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:39:00 - [175] Originally by: T'Karr I'd love to have read the CEO forums, all the great plans to get people PvPing and X'ing up again... I don't think anybody reely identified the problems within the Alliance fast enough or dealt with them fast enough. talking about and identifying problems was your problem.
Triff Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:49:00 - [176] Ive also been trying to keep up-to-date with whats been going on using the forums. It wont have surprised me if Cartiff and Skyfox had order a ban on COAD in hope to distance themselfs from PMS childish posts. From what I understand C4W3 convinced some of the main FOE corps to join them in expanding PMS - Who were increasingly unwantable pets to FOE - with promise of High End moons. Poor Judgement on Malet who is a CEO that trys to do the very best for his corp even if it means doing things he doesn't believe in. I hope FOE are having better luck than PMS and that skyfox's back gets better soon. Couple of Question tho, Who is ari? Was he around in my time in FOE? why did he become a leader? Id also like to be updated on the FOE situation Best of luck Srangey(Stingrey) and Maley on there new venture. Keep it poss free! Yours - Crax McGee
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:50:00 - [177] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 21/04/2009 14:51:07 Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This thread has definitely become lulz. The first two posts were lulz tbqh. Quote: Confirming all my fault and if we just would have listened to Aneu (i'm not dragging Malet into this), everything would have been great! Not at all, we all had parts to play but blaming someone else for your failures is not the way to go. Quote: Confirming I was totally ineffectual as a leader. Thats the thing, you were never a leader, you was never online to be a leader, you were more an annoyance stuck up in your ivory tower looking down at us mear mortals telling us we were all wrong. Quote: Confirming none of the first two posts have any basis in fact and are 100% conjecture. Especially the part about Aneu trying to recruit all the old PMS corps. Who said i havent tried or even suceeded in recruiting any old PMS corps? Your post implied i actually made PMS die, which infact i didnt. This is a perfect example of how you try to squirm your way out of what you say, one of the many contradictions you have said. Quote: Confirming I never confronted Aneu! We did indeed have a chat, it was more of a 'OMG HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME!' Quote: Confirming we shrugged off absolutely everything everyone said. (I have the epic posts on CEO forum to prove that we were not paying ANY ATTENTION AT ALL to what was going on and were TOTALLY DISCONNECTED from the problems and only Aneu could save us!) You listened, you interjected, you talked, you kept talking and would shut up until people were quite sick of what you were saying and would just agree to get you to shut up, i know i did it a few times. Quote: Confirming we could not possibly have taken PNQ. What a bad call. Told you this before we went for it - I said if PL defend it we will not take it, and look what happened - I still believe you live in lala land tbh. Quote: Confirming we didn't NEED that station system, and it was all the leadership's fault, and not a single CEO agreed to the decision! And if we just would have listened to Aneu... man. The guilt is really thick around my neck Hey we agree on something, we didnt need PNQ! Quote: I think i'll go find a knife and stab myself with it... Calm down with your emo rage, had enough of it when you ragequit... Originally by: Butter Dog INSRG internally combusted after C4w3 was appointed leader - my corp immediately left because we knew what he was like, some others followed, and it became a shadow of its former self for a time before being put out of its misery That's my favorite. Meh ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:02:00 - [178] LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Just say 'NO!' - boycott Aneu Angellus today for a better tomorrow!
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:07:00 - [179] Originally by: Centauris LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Not at all, PMS was done for before I even approached any corporations. I love how people not even involved in the situation wont listen to the majority of the other guys who are stating blunt facts on this forum. Hate me more cent, your bias doesnt make your point insignificant, honestly. Aneu ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:13:00 - [180] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Centauris LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Not at all, PMS was done for before I even approached any corporations. No it wasnt, you have a history and proven track record against you. You most definatelly had some part directly or indirectly in destabilizing yet again another alliance because you could see yourself getting no personal gain and or praise from how it currently was. Face it Aneu, you just cant "play the game" unless it is centered around you in some way. DIAF, RLY :)



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