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Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 19/04/2009 16:21:43 Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 19/04/2009 16:21:32 There has been a lot of conjecture surrounding our actions in Fountain and Aridia over the past couple of weeks. I'll put an end to speculation. PMS recently made attempts at capturing the station system in PNQ. A fairly successful initial tower deployment was met with heavy resistance by the combined forces of the Fountain coalition made up of PL, SOT, Arcane, Event Horizon, and some hangars on. The resistance was strong. The history of PMS and the corps in it has always been to fight under asymmetrical odds, despite being outnumbered, but somewhere along the line, that changed. Reasons why have been extensively debated. Our goals in PNQ were satisfied despite the substantial loss in towers and ships; we gained sovereignty in D4KU, PL was pulled back from Delve momentarily, etc. After two weeks of relative quiet, we had a CEO meeting yesterday which was apparently only half productive. It didn't go the way I had hoped but there was generalized agreement that there was a problem (right - what was my first clue?) and some agreement on how to fix it. Core of it is, our pilots aren't Xing because they feel they'll be hotdropped by PL or outnumbered at any occassion, and we're sure there are other reasons besides. I think that's honestly kind of ludicrous since it's been MOSTLY SOT around, and I think we can beat SOT with even or slightly outnumbered odds, though I can't disagree with the general premise that we seem to frequently get more than we bargained for. We were evenly split on whether to stay in Fountain or leave, and stay doing POS warfare or leave. SOT suggests that we should fight when outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1. That sounds great on paper and as an FC I wouldn't necessarily be opposed. But a large portion of the newer parts of our alliance were not as prepared to make that kind of investment in ships, and all the new faces and FCs made people nervous. A lack of confidence started to develop. Even the older corps who had the resources to make the investment kind of chose to go with the flow. It's a very hard situation to fix as everyone has to be inspired to do the right thing. There were significant arguments in leadership recently around the status of a few of the corps and actions taken by corps in the alliance. I know CAOD wants the dirt and unfortunately, I will not be the one to provide it, you'll have to get your rumors and insinuations elsewhere. Apparently Aneu Angellus was unhappy with the direction of our alliance and how we chose to correct the problem. He is working on forming a new alliance. Reportedly he has basically the entire list of PMS corps minus NICE1 and GONZO, though when I talked to each corp individually (those I were able to reach), it seems that that's not the case and no decisions have been made yet. This is what I woke up to this morning. I'm sure corporations wouldn't appreciate their name being taken in vain by Aneu - I know mine wouldn't - and I thought his actions in a little less than 12 hours were pretty fail. He'll probably respond and say our whole alliance is fail. The difference is i'd rather try to fix a problem, he'd rather leave when his view of what needs to be fixed doesn't happen.
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:17:00 - [2] Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 19/04/2009 16:18:34 We immediately confronted Aneu, who danced around the issue for a few minutes and then agreed he was working on someone and had "basically everyone". He referred to failures of leadership on the part of C4w3 and myself, that we weren't facing the problems, though if we had generalized consent that # of pilots in fleet were a problem that certainly didn't stem from Corp 1 Allstars - our pilots were consistently X'd up in fleets and usually formed the backbone of any active fleet during US TZ/late euro TZ. Aneu's primary goal was wanting to leave Fountain because he felt that the region up through PNQ was unwinnable and that we were deluding ourselves. I disagreed with him and told him so during our leadership meeting the other day. He moved up a channel in our comms, chose not to participate in the meeting, then came back down and started off with the traditional "i'm going to be quite blunt". Much emo ensued. There was of course a lot of conversations afterwards and fingerpointing up through this morning, a lot of unfriendly things were said on all sides, all very disappointing. Sad that a game has to be this way. We kicked out DAB from the alliance this morning and closed Aneu's access to the forums to minimize damage. Whether Aneu starts a new alliance or not, and irrespective of what corporations he chooses to take with him or choose to follow him, and why those corps leave is a topic for other parties to discuss. Other corps may or may not be planning on leaving - we haven't heard anything specific from anyone but QUAM who has elected to take their corp elsewhere. We made clear to QUAM yesterday that they are welcome to remove assets with no harassment from us and that offer still stands. I firmly have the opinion that if you have a problem with someone you come and talk to them about it. Aneu claims nobody could do that with me. I know pilots in the alliance would disagree and I feel that I respected everyone's opinion whether it agreed with mine or not. What this little venture has proved for me is that alliances are best run by a benevolent dictator who has final say, and that democracies don't work. It has also proved to me that everyone has to be united under the same banner and the same set of goals, and we lost that very early on. Today a combined SOT/PL/others force are reinforcing towers in D4K and surrounding systems. Defense of those will probably not happen due to low activity as stated above. We would like to say 'gf' to SOT/PL/Arcane/EH and the rest of the Fountain coalition - experienced players will know wars are fought both in games and in propaganda - you guys did a great job and had great leadership and cohesiveness. NICE1 will be remaining in Fountain for the time being with the corps that are still around/choose to be around and we will get back to basics. Best of luck to Malet in whatever venture he chooses with QUAM - there are no hard feelings despite some misunderstandings - there is respect (not sure whether it's mutual) - really appreciate everything you guys did and all the heartache that went into it. Best of luck to Aneu in his new venture - I hope he comports himself better than he did recently. o7 Ari Puppets COO
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:24:00 - [3] First. Is this interesting? ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
TheBaptist Amarr Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:24:00 - [4] Edited by: TheBaptist on 19/04/2009 16:24:09 Second in an about to be Aneu spammed thread. Edit: second? ;)
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:25:00 - [5] Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 19/04/2009 16:24:49 Third.
xeom Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:26:00 - [6] It's just funny how people still let that guy into any corp or alliance. Whether or not any of this is true is irrelevant to me. But even back in Euphrial Released, he was let in and then unceremoniously kicked out shortly thereafter. Considering Cartiff's corp is still in your alliance (or is it?)... one woulda thought there would be something against it. Then again, even without first hand knowledge of Aneu, isn't enough known about him being a general PITA well known?
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:28:00 - [7] Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
Play Dead Gallente Altruism. Avarice.	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:32:00 - [8] tl;dr If it exceeds one post and it's failure cascade drama from an alliance that failed to do anything in the first place, there's a good chance none of us care. <3
Mogren Gallente Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:34:00 - [9] Aneu is a ****** and a half anyway. I don't see why anyone would still let him into their corp/alliance. Good luck to you and your remaining pen-fifteen adventures.
0ren Ishii Amarr Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:38:00 - [10] LOL 5th ^^ invasion from the same guys just in different alliances . Your alliance is bigger then ours in numbers and we outnumber you 3vs1 ... strange. Keep posting Muppets keep posting. <3 Eve is an illnes there is no cure for !

Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:40:00 - [11] Couple of comments: First, the post I wrote makes it seem like all the fault is Aneu's. That's not the intent although I think he wants to claim he doesn't have any responsibility for this. I believe that I have some personal responsibility for this failcascade - though my reasons differ. Second, to SOT who claims we outnumber them in # of pilots, all i'll say is that when you have 100+ man corps and 4 of them X up - I think you get the idea. For everyone else that's being classy - stay classy.
Anuqet Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:40:00 - [12] Thanks to puppet and FOE for a clean and smack free war. Especially c4w3 and Aneu showed us great respect in local and I am shocked that this would happend to PMS, since you seemed like such an mature and rock solid alliance.
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:41:00 - [13] Originally by: 0ren Ishii 5th ^^ invasion from the same guys just in different alliances . Your alliance is bigger then ours in numbers and we outnumber you 3vs1 ... strange. Only second for me, RQM and here.
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:42:00 - [14] When are people going to learn that you can never ever let Aneu near your alliance. The man has played 5 years and the only time he had any clue whatsoever comparable to everyone else was around release and the first 3 months. From that point on he has been truely useless while ofcourse using words to big himself up. Just boot him and put any corp he joins red. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas What this little venture has proved for me is that alliances are best run by a benevolent dictator who has final say, and that democracies don't work. It has also proved to me that everyone has to be united under the same banner and the same set of goals, and we lost that very early on. This is very true, especially when you recruit at the rate PMS did: I'm not saying that fast recruitment is a bad thing, but combine that with leadership-by-council and people who believe they're more important than they actually are (HI ANEU) you're pretty likely to failcascade (trust me on this, I've been in lots of failcascaded alliances ). At least we got some fights while it lasted, eh.
Soban Vuex Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 16:57:00 - [16] Edited by: Soban Vuex on 19/04/2009 16:57:49 Aneu predict of SOT/PL failcascade & disband fails... for second time... or was it third? _____ siggis
Cippalippus Primus Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:10:00 - [17] Sorry to hear this, but people need to learn about Aneu the hard way. Good luck for the future, guys. -clp
Yorda Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:10:00 - [18] tl;dr Please resist the urge to flame - Mitnal
Dathremar Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Sorry to hear this, but people need to learn about Aneu the hard way. Good luck for the future, guys. I'm actually kind of shocked to see how respectable both PL and SOT are in this thread. I certainly enjoyed the fights. SOT you guys put up a very nice show and we had a many of good battles (PNQ fight was one of my favorites). Hopefully we will meet again, could be as early as later today if things don't completely implode
Terribad Gallente HOMELESS. The Shelter	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:26:00 - [20] cool story bro -------------------------------------------------- the game

Jebidus Skari Amarr Comply Or Die	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:30:00 - [21] Well as i said before props to PM for having the balls by attempting to take fountain whilst PL was away, but as soon as PL came back you really didnt stand a chance.. Good luck tho..
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:31:00 - [22] Aneu drama? @_@ --- Nothing is more discomforting than the discovery of our own inadequacies - Carl Jung
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:33:00 - [23] You seem to have your head screwed on Ari, good luck with what you do next ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Thimerion Minmatar BulletProof Monks Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:37:00 - [24] If all PMS renters would like to contact me in game I am sure we can come to some agreement to allow you to safely continue your work in Aridia.
ArmyOfMe Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:40:00 - [25] in before Aneu. What a shock that things would go this way with Aneu in the alliance
tropic142 Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:52:00 - [26] Edited by: tropic142 on 19/04/2009 17:54:11 pen fifteenth*** thanks gm's order cant post due to pen 15 in threads
Ethereal D'niKunni Amarr Hunters Imperiale PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 17:52:00 - [27] LOL.. Aneu banned me from PMS ceo forums 3 days ago for.. well.. saying what all yall here are saying right now.. xD Guess I was right.. Aneu = V@g1n@ :D
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:11:00 - [28] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 19/04/2009 18:14:25 Yes- For I am a bad bad person. If you want this to be public Ari, so be it. I refrained from this but it seems you don't want to. Updating this post with information. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Eve Zui Caldari Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:12:00 - [29] On behalf of Arcane I would like to say it's all been fun save for the smack and propaganda, you guys really know how to upset the apple cart! We have had some great fights! Good luck! zui ceo arcane -- p.s. Jennifer 1 relays his warm and heartfelt regards to C4w3 and wishes him a prosperous and interesting life in Eve and wants to know if he will take a job in arcane cleaning the toilets?
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:13:00 - [30] Hi Aneu!

Numskull Caldari LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:19:00 - [31]
Lizhia Birath Minmatar Rogue Industrial Group Shadows of Light	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:20:00 - [32] This is a different kind of PMS thread. Suprisingly enough this one is the funny one
Hubris Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:22:00 - [33] Aneu, dont let this get you down. You are a very important person in the interweb. IF anything this should show you that you need to create a new alliance that is bigger and better. So you can initiate a fail cascade on a new and exciting level. -
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:22:00 - [34] Ok so where to start. Arimathea has not been playing the game for quite some time - Or rather not had a computer to be online full time, so he has been coming online, talking as much as he possibly could, then leaving it. A man of many words and very few actions. Continual drivel was posted on the leadership forums from him telling people 'you are doing it wrong' and continually blaming corporations for failure rather than the leadership of which I was part. If anyone spoke against it, Ari would interject and basically tell them once again, they were wrong. C4 - I love this guy but, C4 was meant to be the alliance leader and quite bluntly did not step up to the plate. One min he would rage at people for being idiots, the next min he would tell people 'i dont care'. Over the past week myself and Malet both tried to get a backbone running for the alliance, create isk for the alliance with regards to moons, we organised capital hits on POS's. We put 6 pos's into reinforced only to have no-one follow up the RF timers when we were unavailable to do it. So, Ari gets a new computer and comes on, invites everyone to a CEO meeting and basically starts about Fountain - What are we doing wrong, why arent we winning, yada yada yada. Now considering in the last 3 weeks certain corporations have been losing numbers (members) and none of the leadership has wanted to do anything about it, additionally considering that leadership are under the impression that each corporation is not the responsibility of the alliance (this to me is bull**, we work together as an alliance). The meeting last night was simply about Ari trying to get people to agree with what he had to say, and if you took things down a differant path, he would stop the discussion and move on. Not good. Ari, you speak alot, but you do nothing. All talk, no bite. Most of the top 10 pvp corporations in PMS are now leaving to join me on my 'venture' - If they are wrong then no-one can be right in all of this. Enjoy fountain. ________________** Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Kyguard Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:23:00 - [35] Hopefully this will teach just about everyone in eve that Aneu is useless and everything he touches turns to ****. -
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:27:00 - [36] Confirming all my fault. I think people can see the hypocrisy.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Ari, you speak alot, but you do nothing. All talk, no bite. Most of the top 10 pvp corporations in PMS are now leaving to join me on my 'venture' - If they are wrong then no-one can be right in all of this. Enjoy fountain. Saving this for later. --- Nothing is more discomforting than the discovery of our own inadequacies - Carl Jung
Lallante Gallente Reikoku Reloaded KenZoku	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:33:00 - [38] If theres two things I've learned in eve it is this: - Aneu Angelis is cancer and should never be allowed in your alliance, let alone be part of leadership discussions. - If the going gets tough, Quam will leave their alliance History always repeats itself. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - Reikoku
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:34:00 - [39] Quote: @Pathetic \| Aneu is a terrible boomer. Even AI's know whats up.
Will Hunter Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:34:00 - [40] Edited by: Will Hunter on 19/04/2009 18:34:43 lallante you are almost as bad as as Aneu or peoke so STFU

Lallante Gallente Reikoku Reloaded KenZoku	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Ok so where to start. Arimathea has not been playing the game for quite some time - Or rather not had a computer to be online full time, so he has been coming online, talking as much as he possibly could, then leaving it. A man of many words and very few actions. Continual drivel was posted on the leadership forums from him telling people 'you are doing it wrong' and continually blaming corporations for failure rather than the leadership of which I was part. If anyone spoke against it, Ari would interject and basically tell them once again, they were wrong. C4 - I love this guy but, C4 was meant to be the alliance leader and quite bluntly did not step up to the plate. One min he would rage at people for being idiots, the next min he would tell people 'i dont care'. Over the past week myself and Malet both tried to get a backbone running for the alliance, create isk for the alliance with regards to moons, we organised capital hits on POS's. We put 6 pos's into reinforced only to have no-one follow up the RF timers when we were unavailable to do it. So, Ari gets a new computer and comes on, invites everyone to a CEO meeting and basically starts about Fountain - What are we doing wrong, why arent we winning, yada yada yada. Now considering in the last 3 weeks certain corporations have been losing numbers (members) and none of the leadership has wanted to do anything about it, additionally considering that leadership are under the impression that each corporation is not the responsibility of the alliance (this to me is bull**, we work together as an alliance). The meeting last night was simply about Ari trying to get people to agree with what he had to say, and if you took things down a differant path, he would stop the discussion and move on. Not good. Ari, you speak alot, but you do nothing. All talk, no bite. Most of the top 10 pvp corporations in PMS are now leaving to join me on my 'venture' - If they are wrong then no-one can be right in all of this. Enjoy fountain. Aneu you have been caught out time and time and time again as a compulsive liar. If anyone can be said to be a man of all talk and little action it is you. m0o BS kills cap II bpo Mothership the list goes on and on. You are a liar and a manipulator (albeit a bad one) and its a miracle that anyone will be in the same corp as you let alone let you lead their alliance. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - Reikoku**
JonnyKay Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:36:00 - [42] Was I the only one here who thought of PMS as being "Post Menstral Stress"?
Shadoo Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:42:00 - [43] Actually -- I think the hell is freezing over. I found a thread where I find myself saying: Aneu actually has it pretty spot on, PMS leadership is one of those disjointed ones where the leaders don't actually play enough to see what the situation is like on the field instead choosing to play the blame game with FCs/pilots instead and continue to smash their heads to a brick wall. It is a cold, cold day in hell.
Dwight Hammerhead Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:49:00 - [44] well good fights and good luck. On the drama bomb thingie.. when will people learn... An alliance is not a group of ppl fighting for someone. Its a group of people fighting together. It is not something you form up overnight. The only thing you can build overnight is a toilet, and not a very good one. You dont just form an alliance and go conquer a region about it .. or anything else. Trial and error is as good way as any to see if smth doesnt work after all. To the PMS pilots - good fights all. To the PMS leadership - I have no idea who is who in there, and I could not care less. One thing is for sure though, there was someone in there who was seriously delusional, and looks like the members believed in what the guy was saying. Overconfidence in your abilities was your greatest weakness. Trial and error.. trial and error. P.S. Also LOL @ c4w3. _____________________________________________ Too bad at photoshop and too poor to buy a sig. Amarr Victor? Unlikely.
malet Caldari Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:53:00 - [45] Edited by: malet on 19/04/2009 18:53:38 Well I would like to say thx to arc/EH/SOT/PL for some fun times over the last few months. Especailly SOT/ARC who we have rumbled with more than most. Good fights / good smack just the way eve is meant to be. As for PMS its been a blast and all things ru their course and our time in HH is now over. Good luck to all in fountain was a pleasure fighting with and against you all Ari - Tough job m8, you did your best C4 - smoke me a doobie Bomber - shh on vent :P And to everyone else in puppets much love <3
Davthalas Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:54:00 - [46] Aneu initiates another failcascade in an alliance he joined. The circle of life continues...
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Shadoo Actually -- I think the hell is freezing over. I found a thread where I find myself saying: Aneu actually has it pretty spot on, PMS leadership is one of those disjointed ones where the leaders don't actually play enough to see what the situation is like on the field instead choosing to play the blame game with FCs/pilots instead and continue to smash their heads to a brick wall. It is a cold, cold day in hell. No blame game really. I was out for two weeks. It was unintentional. When you can't be in game all you can do is talk. But that doesn't mean you're not aware of what's happening. C4 FC'd almost every day, eventually he lost interest. Same with QUAM/Malet, same with others I think. Interesting how much fail results from losing towers in one system. Aneu seems to want to pin all the blame on us - here's my chest, pin it right up. I've said from the beginning i'll leave when asked. Haven't been asked yet. Not leaving.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.19 18:57:00 - [48] PMS is not failure-cascading. It is evolving. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 19:01:00 - [49] are you surprised that you finally get taken seriously when you demand to be taken seriously by spamming PNQ? oh well, we will await the next time you invade fountain under a new name. you probably should have listened to aneu. any alliance with aneu in the leadership will be the best alliance. my suggestions is for all PMS corps to follow aneu wherever he goes. because success always follows him. also be sure to keep apple boy with you. vote for me for CSM. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM
Dwight Hammerhead Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 19:03:00 - [50] Originally by: Aneu Angellus PMS is not failure-cascading. It is evolving. A PMS POS is exploding as you type. If I had sounds on, I could hear the sound of evolution. You are funny _____________________________________________ Too bad at photoshop and too poor to buy a sig. Amarr Victor? Unlikely.

Foai Caldari Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.19 19:13:00 - [51] Arc/SoT: It's been a blast. Lots of nice fights over the past few months. GL to you all and GL to puppets future ventures CareBear PoWer!
TuRtLe HeAd Caldari KrayZ Inc Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.19 19:20:00 - [52] I'd love to say Thanks for the fights and the experience... but the reality is all you have done is subject us to Terrible un-necessary smack talk and Ridiculous references to male genitalia.... We gave our all, we aren't a PvP Force yet you gave us lots of valuable lessons and for that I thank you. I Really do wish all the best and good luck in the future.
Genuinely Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.19 19:36:00 - [53] I'd normally advise against taking on a forum wh**e on their home territory, but given that it's Aneu you're squaring up to I reckon you'll be ok.
Pye Mae Gallente Riddle of Steel	Posted - 2009.04.19 19:41:00 - [54] Originally by: mazzilliu also be sure to keep apple boy with you. Quoted for truth... he is teh win FC. =)
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:00:00 - [55] damnnit! you could have at least checked his hangar for the mythical mothership! in all seriousness i would put money on most of those who follow him will regret it. The guys an arrogant and devisive f***wit without the skills to back it up.
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:12:00 - [56] lolaneu
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:16:00 - [57] To all you Aneu haters, all i have to say is, lol. Really go do something productive with your time. Those who were in PMS and knew the situation know exactly what happened. Those of you jumping on the beat Aneu bandwagon know nothing if you try to put this at my feat. I will admit that certain aspects are my fault but no-one can say I didn't try my damnedest to keep this ** rolling. Ari was not online allot which means i dealt with pretty much everything. C4 didn't want to do all. So it was left to me. I tried to get the ball rolling on multiple things asking people to perform certain tasks, then certain individuals, im sure you can work out who, did not want to do what i asked. Quite simply within the leadership there were people who would talk, and there were people who would do. The amount of times i swallowed my ego within this alliance and let certain individuals walk over me is not worth thinking about - There comes a time when people stop listening to those who talk a load of good words but then dont produce. We are now leaving. Where the new alliance will go is already decided upon, the name is decided upon, the station we will live out of is decided upon, the high end moons we will have is decided upon. These are not things we are discussing anymore. These are 100% certain facts that will happen when we move. No more talking - More pew, more fun - After all its what we pay for. ________________** Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Doctor Penguin Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:19:00 - [58] If people had nothing to hide, they wouldn't attack others in their posts. I'm a terrible judge of character, but what exactly is wrong with coming on and saying "I and whoever got into an argument over our direction, and I disagreed to a point where I am leaving."? I sense that somebody is hiding something. ________________________________________________ http://eve.drome.nl/CaodCleaner/ Help make CAOD readable.
Genuinely Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:28:00 - [59] Originally by: Aneu Angellus To all you Aneu haters, all i have to say is, lol. I actually don't hate you Aneu, I just think it's well beyond a co-incidence the number of times you 'happen' to be an innocent, injured bystander when these kind of dramas kick off. It's possible that you've just been extremely unlucky, but personally I don't buy that. Having seen the way you deal with people when you're under pressure I have little confidence in your intentions on this one. Originally by: Aneu Angellus the name is decided upon Oh god. I don't think even a forum full of imaginary spaceship pilots is ready for the level of Emo nameage we're about to get thrown at us. Promise me that it has an 'x' and a '.' Originally by: Aneu Angellus There comes a time when people stop listening to those who talk a load of good words but then dont produce. Try telling that to Butter Dog :( Anyway, all the best PMS.
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Aneu Angellus The amount of times i swallowed my ego within this alliance and let certain individuals walk over me is not worth thinking about - There comes a time when people stop listening to those who talk a load of good words but then dont produce. Quite a miracle you didn't choke (Please choke) (ingame)

Genuinely Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:38:00 - [61] Aneu this was going to happen
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:40:00 - [62] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Aneu this was going to happen I tip my hat to you good sir :monacle:
Cippalippus Primus Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:41:00 - [63] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Aneu this was going to happen Wow, nice. -clp
Sgt JoNeZ Caldari Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:42:00 - [64] GF all it was a blast pew'ing with you and against you! :) Sorry for all the spam --------------------------------------------------- I recommend you to watch the new "EVE-TV", EVECAST at http://evecast.tv/
CARY Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:44:00 - [65] I was trying to read this but afer a few lines it was just too boring...another muppet singing. Watch the puppet sing, pull their strings, pull their strings, come and watch the puppet sing............
w0rmy Caldari Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:45:00 - [66] Its your own fault. You get what you deserve when you place any level of trust in Aneu. Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness. Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
Halo Caldari CyberDyne Industries	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:54:00 - [67] Aneu Angellus has always been a ***.
ArmyOfMe Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.19 20:56:00 - [68] Originally by: Aneu Angellus The amount of times i swallowed my ego impressive, considering not even the servers have room for your ego
Ace Frehley Minmatar Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:24:00 - [69] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 19/04/2009 20:59:00 Originally by: Aneu Angellus The amount of times i swallowed my ego impressive, considering not even the servers have room for your ego Originally by: Aneu Angellus the high end moons we will have is decided upon. These are not things we are discussing anymore. These are 100% certain facts that will happen when we move. are you gonna take those high end moons with your cunning smacktalk as well? I thought you only loved in Norway ♥ signature is not EVE related, please change. ~WeatherMan
SSDD24 Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:32:00 - [70] tbh pointin fingers and sayin i told u so is ghey... i just wanna pew...nothin else

Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Originally by: Aneu Angellus There comes a time when people stop listening to those who talk a load of good words but then dont produce. Try telling that to Butter Dog :( Careful, or you'll be back in Privateers Alliance before you can F5 ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
RobertoLuongo Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:40:00 - [72] Originally by: SSDD24 tbh pointin fingers and sayin i told u so is ghey... i just wanna pew...nothin else ^^^^ Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Aneu this was going to happen You win this thread
screwball 82 Gallente Temptation. The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:55:00 - [73] Originally by: Thimerion If all PMS renters would like to contact me in game I am sure we can come to some agreement to allow you to safely continue your work in Aridia. wow thim wtf happened 2 shfm? DID NOT SEE THAT COMMING HONEST
yhellothar Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:56:00 - [74] this is funny and I did in no way predict this happening
Hast Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:57:00 - [75] this forum is made of fail above poaster is me Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
bloody johnroberts Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:58:00 - [76] is apple boy going with you ROFL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT
Evil Thug Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.04.19 21:59:00 - [77] Originally by: Hast this forum is made of fail above poaster is me Its me, mate. I`m gay too !
Evil Thug Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:01:00 - [78] Originally by: bloody johnroberts is apple boy going with you ROFL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT Hey, dude. You`ve been very active in local, and stuff. Yet, you are fitting 6 rails on your mega. Pointing fingers, in this case is very bad, tbh. You are even more ******ed than me, or Hast Just saying, sorry if I hurt your feelings :(
bloody johnroberts Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:10:00 - [79] my feelings are hurt my low skills and poor fitting advice is a problem could you please send me a proper fit as i know you are elite pvper and have a vast knowledge of fitting out ships never stop posting igor
Evil Thug Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:16:00 - [80] Originally by: bloody johnroberts my feelings are hurt my low skills and poor fitting advice is a problem could you please send me a proper fit as i know you are elite pvper and have a vast knowledge of fitting out ships never stop posting igor So you agreed, that you are ******ed ?

Dwight Hammerhead Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:18:00 - [81] ET, get your own flame topic going _____________________________________________ Too bad at photoshop and too poor to buy a sig. Amarr Victor? Unlikely.
bloody johnroberts Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:20:00 - [82] ive never been good at hang man but here goes nothing is there a u in it ????
Sun Ra Minmatar The Royal Syndicate	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:24:00 - [83] Originally by: Numskull Hi Aneu AHUH AHUH AHUH AHUH
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:30:00 - [84] Originally by: Anuqet Thanks to puppet and FOE for a clean and smack free war. Especially c4w3 and Aneu showed us great respect in local and I am shocked that this would happend to PMS, since you seemed like such an mature and rock solid alliance. This ^
Gondula Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:43:00 - [85]
Garulf Hirgon Gallente Mentis Fidelis Avarice.	Posted - 2009.04.19 22:44:00 - [86] I'm confused, Aneu seems so reasonable and mild-mannered in this topic? I'd think you guys were talking about two different people.
StainLessStealRat Caldari Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:10:00 - [87] Thank god the smack and delusional post's are over. Mav's i wish you the best of luck in the future. Hunters Imperial and the rest of you smack talking 12 YO's have fun back in empire where you belong.
Rn Bonnet Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:17:00 - [88] Glad to see Corp 1 parted from Aneu. You guys have been around Fountain for awhile now and where fun to fight, kept local smack free (as much as anyone anyways), etc. Joined with him it was just grinding. so o7 to Corp 1 and good bye to aneu.
Korrakas Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:28:00 - [89] are you guys relevant, should we care ? guise ? looks around to see if anyone has any info Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:31:00 - [90] Every time i see ppl like aneu or appleboy etc on the enemy side i know that victory is a sure thing specially if they are in leadership positions ,they are their own worst enemies. Hopefully they will end up in the GKC again or maybe AAA wagon and that would be just epic Hard luck PMS , you had to learn a harsh lesson from this about trusting ppl. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe

Robimus Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:40:00 - [91] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Every time i see ppl like aneu or appleboy etc on the enemy side i know that victory is a sure thing specially if they are in leadership positions ,they are their own worst enemies. Hopefully they will end up in the GKC again or maybe AAA wagon and that would be just epic Hard luck PMS , you had to learn a harsh lesson from this about trusting ppl. And this is why Yazoul will NEVER get high level access in pl. :D
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:45:00 - [92] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Aneu this was going to happen
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.20 00:12:00 - [93] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 20/04/2009 00:13:13 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 19/04/2009 18:14:25 Yes- For I am a bad bad person. If you want this to be public Ari, so be it. I refrained from this but it seems you don't want to. Updating this post with information lol...lol, lol, lol and lol.
Admiral Goberius Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 00:16:00 - [94] Edited by: Admiral Goberius on 20/04/2009 00:16:30 I posted this 10 days ago. Sounds like I was spot on arimathea :o Originally by: Goberth Ludwig However if you have been around eve enough to know this then you also perfectly know that your own bunch of people isn't gonna get anything done ever because anytime the going has gotten tough in the last years, you have given up really quickly. This is a fact just look back at how you dealt with challenges and list whatever you ever got done. Your guys are just desperate to get some of their e-fame back and you are perfectly aware of that. At some point you know you will disband again, just to come back later with some other name that either sounds cool/edgy; or a revival of an old alliance that used to mean something but hasn't in a long time. You are trying to convince people your alliance got balls and spirit for undermining the mighty PL but all you did was spam some towers and not show up to defend them. You are "keeping PL busy" when all PL has done lately in euro tz was riding bikes anyways. Look at this thread nobody cares about you its just your guys and PL posting, with some goons throwing in the usual forum support for their allies. Your plan is to (re)build a reputation by spamming towers and posting about yourselves on the forums. What could possibly go wrong? - Gob edit: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1046541&page=7#188 - Gob ________ Alt of Goberth Ludwig
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.20 00:36:00 - [95] Originally by: Lallante Edited by: Lallante on 19/04/2009 18:41:24 If theres one thing I've learned in eve it is this: Aneu Angelis is cancer and should never be allowed in your alliance, let alone be part of leadership discussions. Among his many charms, he is a compulsive liar, probably to the point of being clinically so IRL. It is a continuing source of amazement that anyone would allow him in their alliance. History always repeats itself. Just chiming in to report at LALLANTE posting this. There just isn't enough black in the world to be covering that particular pot, folx. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Sentinel Eeex Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.20 01:08:00 - [96] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: bloody johnroberts is apple boy going with you ROFL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT Hey, dude. You`ve been very active in local, and stuff. Yet, you are fitting 6 rails on your mega. Pointing fingers, in this case is very bad, tbh. You are even more ******ed than me, or Hast Just saying, sorry if I hurt your feelings :( Can you even legally drink, yet?
Tobruk Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 01:17:00 - [97] didnt see this coming ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.20 01:22:00 - [98] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 20/04/2009 01:22:50 Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: Lallante Edited by: Lallante on 19/04/2009 18:41:24 If theres one thing I've learned in eve it is this: Aneu Angelis is cancer and should never be allowed in your alliance, let alone be part of leadership discussions. Among his many charms, he is a compulsive liar, probably to the point of being clinically so IRL. It is a continuing source of amazement that anyone would allow him in their alliance. History always repeats itself. Just chiming in to report at LALLANTE posting this. There just isn't enough black in the world to be covering that particular pot, folx. whats wrong with lallante? (will ignore the suprise that a goon is actually old enough to understand who lallante even is..)
Teschan Amarr Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.20 01:31:00 - [99] It's been fun. Going to miss playing you lot my drunken songs but yes QUAM are scuttering off this ship. Pen fifteen one last time :) Good luck /me has to update his signature again crockp0t's C4w3 Rap Beat Extravaganza: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/C4w3_Rap_Beat_Extravaganza.mp3
Rajere Gallente No Trademark	Posted - 2009.04.20 01:47:00 - [100] How could anyone not see this coming? The opinions expressed in my posts do represent my corp -------------------------- NOTR

Wusti Caldari The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2009.04.20 02:31:00 - [101] Oh my ... _______________________ Welcome to The New Era
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.20 02:45:00 - [102] Originally by: Evil Thug You are even more ******ed than...Hast this is a troll i can get behind --- Nothing is more discomforting than the discovery of our own inadequacies - Carl Jung
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.20 03:42:00 - [103] Originally by: MAXSuicide whats wrong with lallante? (will ignore the suprise that a goon is actually old enough to understand who lallante even is..) Someday you will realize that people's memory, intellegence, personal worth and ability to spot bull**** is not affected by the amount of time you have have been paying money to ccp. "Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.04.20 05:06:00 - [104] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: MAXSuicide whats wrong with lallante? (will ignore the suprise that a goon is actually old enough to understand who lallante even is..) Someday you will realize that people's memory, intellegence, personal worth and ability to spot bull**** is not affected by the amount of time you have have been paying money to ccp. u mad? -- -- -- "E = mc^2" - God ...enough with dead peoples' quotes...
ArmyOfMe Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.20 05:29:00 - [105] Originally by: Korrakas are you guys relevant, should we care ? guise ? looks around to see if anyone has any info can you see the irony in you making this comment
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 07:30:00 - [106] posting to check if PMS kicked us yet Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
GODFATHER Caldari Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:20:00 - [107] OK just that u know...sot pilots have to pay 50 mill to oren if they post on forum here but its worth I like fighting puppet masters especially to shot c4w3 who i really hatea lot cause hes a ****! I personally took part of a lot operations against pm but i never saw Pl. They have their own problems. Further arcane sucked in defending their space or the space they where responsible for. So sot pulled that car out of again...pos bashingin the last few days... i never saw one pl or arcane in the ops... so yobring that like whole fountain was fighting you . in my option 90% of the fights where made between sot and pm. i really have to give a big compliment to all our fc¦s...so different they are... especially to oren. u did a great job. but please dont swear so much and dont use the word fk so often how ever puppets also gave us a hard time, we had great fights and i really have to say they didnt smack us in local... no matter how hard we tried :-) so long... fly save all the best where ever u may go to.. was a good time. WTB ENEMY IN FOUNTAIN!!!!! Convo Godfather for info!!! greez GF
Cemic Cemezon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:27:00 - [108] pen 15
Derida Amarr l Black Thorns l Event Horizon.	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:44:00 - [109] Oh well, good luck to the leavers wherever you go. About the PNQ "takedown try", I haven¦t thought that this was a seriouse try to get it. But if this was really an invasion attempt my respect to you, but please don¦t tell us you were surprised that the Fountain alliances worked toegther. At least the "old boys" in PMS have warned you (I guess) that this will happen. Your old corporations have seen it when Goodfellas tried to take PNQ and I think you were arround when Elitest Cowards got kicked from Fountain. Anyway, from the Event Horizon side this was acually a very good thing for us. We weren¦t the main force to stop you of corse (thanks PL/SOT/ARC) due to our size, but we could offer lots of support and some firepower to our allies. I remember some of you were pretty surprised to see lots of Evenet Horizon pilots in PNQ during the assaults and I admit sometimes even me was surprised about the great teamwork we could evolve just within 1-2 days. After this we went out stronger as ever before and I want to thank you PMS for that :) I hope you enjoyed our little guerilla tactics over the last weeks in PNQ killing your front/rearscouts and latecomers was good fun. Acually it¦s pretty impressive how carefull you move through PNQ today, I remember times when you just passed it like a highsec system lol. Anyway, good look to the leavers and see you in Fountain to those who stay. Btw. massrecruiting in a short period of time is never a good thing. 0/
Swirler Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:50:00 - [110] Edited by: Swirler on 20/04/2009 08:51:11 Good fights PM, wtf happened to FoE - oh, caps exploded. Thanks for all the loot! " You will pay the price for your lack of vision." - Emperor Palpatine. Between Life and Death, there is Cryosleep

Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 09:55:00 - [111] I w0u1d l0v3 t0 h3ar wh4t C4w3 h4s t0 s4y ab0ut th1s :=o)))D
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:05:00 - [112] You know, The fact that many of my enemies, former and current are here to flame me makes me rejoice to be quite honest. If you want to blame me for the ** poor leadership of this alliance then by all means do. I will take it on, i will gladly say yes, I ran PMS and i destroyed it. Those who know what happened will know what is the truth. Quite simply, we pay to play a game and enjoy it. The corporations in PMS were losing members, small corporations with huge voices were causing untold issues within the leadership and a certain person was giving heed to these tiny insignificant corporations when all i wanted to do was kick them. If this makes me a bad person, then I am bad, oh so very bad. But - those who are leaving, which is most of the corporations, who have agreed to come along for the ride with me, i can guarantee fun. No political bull since we have discussed who worked well together in PMS. Quite simply we have streamlined the bullters out. No more meetings about single peoples agendas, or meetings where you go through everything and go back to square one the following day. Fun. Its what i play for. Its what you play for. Its what we both pay for. Aneu p.s more hate plz ________________** Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:15:00 - [113] Originally by: Aneu Angellus You know, The fact that many of my enemies, former and current are here to flame me makes me rejoice to be quite honest. If you want to blame me for the ** poor leadership of this alliance then by all means do. I will take it on, i will gladly say yes, I ran PMS and i destroyed it. Those who know what happened will know what is the truth. Quite simply, we pay to play a game and enjoy it. The corporations in PMS were losing members, small corporations with huge voices were causing untold issues within the leadership and a certain person was giving heed to these tiny insignificant corporations when all i wanted to do was kick them. If this makes me a bad person, then I am bad, oh so very bad. But - those who are leaving, which is most of the corporations, who have agreed to come along for the ride with me, i can guarantee fun. No political bull since we have discussed who worked well together in PMS. Quite simply we have streamlined the bull**ters out. No more meetings about single peoples agendas, or meetings where you go through everything and go back to square one the following day. Fun. Its what i play for. Its what you play for. Its what we both pay for. Aneu p.s more hate plz u mad?~
Twoside Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:23:00 - [114] Originally by: Heptameron damnnit! you could have at least checked his hangar for the mythical mothership! in all seriousness i would put money on most of those who follow him will regret it. The guys an arrogant and devisive f***wit without the skills to back it up. Since when can a MS dock? Futhermore, a shame to see what djnme and aneu made of DAB, they were once better then OV you know.. (and probably still are tbqh)
bomber80133 Caldari THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:32:00 - [115] Edited by: bomber80133 on 20/04/2009 10:34:21 Edited by: bomber80133 on 20/04/2009 10:33:04 Originally by: malet Bomber - shh on vent :P Well thanks for the fun, im going to watch how aneu will lead his alliance(to disaster). Arcane, hope you learned something about PvP this time PL, did we ever fight you ? SOT, when we weren't outnumbered 2to1 or 3to1 we had some great fights and great fun, and im looking forward to more fights and c4, 'CRAPPY ****ING ALLIANCE !'
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:47:00 - [116] Yes, because i was incharge of this alliance? Right? Guys? Right? No? Let me give you some insight into the leadership of PMS and what it entailed. It entailed C4 wanting to be leader - then not wanting - then telling people he laughs at them for raging or rather having some passion about the game. I love the dude but ** thats not how to run things. As for the person that caused so much . Ari was under the impression from both OrDeR and C4 that he was going to be the alliance leader. This is where things got really messed up. C4 took a step back, OrDeR wasnt online as much. Ari thought he was leader and started about implimenting ideas and without really speaking to anyone. Telling people that they were doing it wrong while he didnt really actually play the game all that much. He would come online, wall of text the forum and leave the rest of us to sort the backlash of his out. C4 didnt like how things were going and smacked Ari down telling him he wasnt alliance leader - Ari quit. Ari removed his roles and wanted to leave Corp1. It was me who convinced him not to leave, It was me who got him and C4 talking, even tho C4 had no clue ari was quitting. After much rage Ari decided to come back. Only with bitterness in his mouth. He continued his conquest to follow his agenda of 'Only one person should lead this alliance and that should be me' continually telling people they were doing it wrong, that the FCs were , that corporations were doing it wrong. All while without writing up a single plan of action or 'what we should do' that was ever implimented. Myself and Malet wrote up a single plan of action which we put into effect with our caps on the field and it was effective until we put it in someone elses hands. Then went down the drain. The alliance failed two weeks ago, hate me for rescuing the corporations that can actually work together and see eye to eye on most situations. I hope GONZO do not disband also - it would be a shame, but through alliance mismanagement corporations have lost members and are losing members. Hate me for ending a situation, or giving people a way to enjoy there game. Aneu ________________** Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:47:00 - [117] Edited by: Adeptus mecanicus on 20/04/2009 10:48:09 Originally by: bomber80133 Edited by: bomber80133 on 20/04/2009 10:34:21 Edited by: bomber80133 on 20/04/2009 10:33:04 Originally by: malet Bomber - shh on vent :P Well thanks for the fun, im going to watch how aneu will lead his alliance(to disaster). Arcane, hope you learned something about PvP this time PL, did we ever fight you ? SOT, when we weren't outnumbered 2to1 or 3to1 we had some great fights and great fun, and im looking forward to more fights and c4, 'CRAPPY ****ING ALLIANCE !' i hope they never make a sound board of me Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.20 10:51:00 - [118] Originally by: Gneeznow I w0u1d l0v3 t0 h3ar wh4t C4w3 h4s t0 s4y ab0ut th1s :=o)))D You should design the new alliance name (C4 is actually a nice chap, the only issue is that he is perma-stoned, which makes some of his choices... interesting... I'll never forget that time he ordered dreads to warp unsupported to a gate, and my corp said 'er, no', but unfortunately some other people did and lost them all ) ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Cippalippus Primus Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:07:00 - [119] See Aneu, let me explain why this is highly entertaining. We didn't claim to be better than you, we didn't start a 4 threads about PL failing, we didn't claim "you suck" (although you do suck). You did. Watching you failing again is not only entertaining, but it also convinces us faithful that there is, indeed, a good supreme Being up there in the skies, watching us all with a tender smile and protecting us from people like you. To those who had the misfortune of following him in the past, my condolences. To those that will follow him in the future, I wish them no harm, for Aneu is already a terrible punishment. -clp
TheAdj Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:23:00 - [120] Originally by: Aneu Angellus PMS is not failure-cascading. It is evolving. Please continue to make a fool of yourself Aneu, it provides some pretty good entertainment! ----------------

Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:24:00 - [121] Originally by: Aneu Angellus stuff I'm slightly paraphrasing Windypops from corp chat last night, but you probably did work really hard to try to make things work. You probably put the grind in and people blaming you is probably not entirely fair. But... Your alliance was always going to cascade-fail. It grew too fast and aimed too high, and anyone who knows C4 knows he is a lovely guy but cannot lead alliances. I do sympathise with you. However, I'd really recommend you not posting in this thread further. I like a bit of CAOD drama as much as anyone, but I feel like I'm watching a disabled kid get beaten in his wheelchair and I'm taking a little bit of pleasure out of it, which in turn makes me feel all kinds of strange. Please spare me these uncomfortable feelings. Thanks. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
torN Deception Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:25:00 - [122] Originally by: MAXSuicide whats wrong with lallante? He's one of those old-school BoB douchebags who has a vastly inflated opinion of himself and his alliance because of what he believes is their incredibly(and always largely imaginary) prowess at internet spaceships, which has always been a good gag but is now a laugh riot that Kenzoku is just a ****ty AAA pet who gets ground up into dogfood when MC 2.0 isn't there to pull their ass out of the fire(see: the last week) Also, he's the one who commissioned you-know-who to hack into the Goonfleet director forums and then stiffed he-who-must-not-be-named out of the agreed upon payment, causing him to hack into the BoB forums and blow the whistle on the whole BoB/T20 cheating thing
bomber80133 Caldari THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:27:00 - [123] Edited by: bomber80133 on 20/04/2009 11:27:55 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Aneu Angellus stuff more stuff So how about this, I disable you so you'll be in a wheelchair and then you can beat him without feeling strange... at all ? What you will have over him is that you wont be mentally re.tar.ded.
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:35:00 - [124] Seems like NOINT was the only corporation to gain members. Haha! Anyways, in my eyes the failcascade of this alliance was because of poor leadership, communication and ISK. I feel that Aneu's rage is not quite right. The alliance did not listen to the small corporations, the alliance was basicly a couple of egomaniacs telling people what to do just to logoff right after and expect it to be carried out automaticly. Communication was **, many corporations did not have access to the leadership comms and most were kept out of the loop; they were not important enough. And as for ISK, the alliance leadership was careless about it. Each corporation on its own. Even thou some corporations had several t2 BPO's, supposedly a stolen ARCANE Wyvern, some stolen towers etc. etc. and another corporation (guess who?) getting free Large POS Towers from BoB/KenZoku, the rest of the alliance did not and could not afford the careless attitude of the leadership. All this started the **storm! PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP!
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:41:00 - [125] A few things about Aneu It DOES NOT own a mothership. It is no benefit what so ever to DAB and or ANY Alliance/corp he has been in/will be in. Trash has more use and should be more sought after. It has absolutely zero skill and or knowledge of anything EVE related. Quote: Quote from: [DAB]Aneu Angellus on January 26, 2008, 10:02:58 am Damps are the last thing i would fit to it, although speed tanking it may be a good idea, after setting one up i can get it to 3km/s and if u orbit at that speed at 95km then ur not gona get hit. It has a higher pain rate and eventually kill rate towards corps/alliances then walking frames and falls to the elderly. DAB has went downhill ever since Aneu's application was approved. He is an absolute waste of a clone and the most awful thing to grace new eden. He really is terrible and save your alliance and save yourselfs. Just say 'NO!' - boycott Aneu Angellus today for a better tomorrow! ^^ BTW hahahahahah Aneu :) TC4LIFE [centre][green]Just say 'NO!' - boycott Aneu Angellus tod
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:41:00 - [126] Originally by: Butter Dog However, I'd really recommend you not posting in this thread further. I like a bit of CAOD drama as much as anyone, but I feel like I'm watching a disabled kid get beaten in his wheelchair and I'm taking a little bit of pleasure out of it, which in turn makes me feel all kinds of strange. Oh dear. Irony overload.
Balder Con Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:46:00 - [127] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeEF4RAlNJQ .
tropic142 Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:56:00 - [128] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Seems like NOINT was the only corporation to gain members. Haha! Anyways, in my eyes the failcascade of this alliance was because of poor leadership, communication and ISK. I feel that Aneu's rage is not quite right. The alliance did not listen to the small corporations, the alliance was basicly a couple of egomaniacs telling people what to do just to logoff right after and expect it to be carried out automaticly. Communication was **, many corporations did not have access to the leadership comms and most were kept out of the loop; they were not important enough. And as for ISK, the alliance leadership was careless about it. Each corporation on its own. Even thou some corporations had several t2 BPO's, supposedly a stolen ARCANE Wyvern, some stolen towers etc. etc. and another corporation (guess who?) getting free Large POS Towers from BoB/KenZoku, the rest of the alliance did not and could not afford the careless attitude of the leadership. All this started the **storm! PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! GONZO / CORP1 was the people getting spys into corps and stealing ships etc (reds only ofc), which was mainly me. Why should we give you the spoils of our hard work? If you want to steal from our reds your welcome to do the hard yards like the rest of us.
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:59:00 - [129] Originally by: tropic142 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Seems like NOINT was the only corporation to gain members. Haha! Anyways, in my eyes the failcascade of this alliance was because of poor leadership, communication and ISK. I feel that Aneu's rage is not quite right. The alliance did not listen to the small corporations, the alliance was basicly a couple of egomaniacs telling people what to do just to logoff right after and expect it to be carried out automaticly. Communication was **, many corporations did not have access to the leadership comms and most were kept out of the loop; they were not important enough. And as for ISK, the alliance leadership was careless about it. Each corporation on its own. Even thou some corporations had several t2 BPO's, supposedly a stolen ARCANE Wyvern, some stolen towers etc. etc. and another corporation (guess who?) getting free Large POS Towers from BoB/KenZoku, the rest of the alliance did not and could not afford the careless attitude of the leadership. All this started the **storm! PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! GONZO / CORP1 was the people getting spys into corps and stealing ships etc (reds only ofc), which was mainly me. Why should we give you the spoils of our hard work? If you want to steal from our reds your welcome to do the hard yards like the rest of us. Is that what I am saying in my post?
tropic142 Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 12:25:00 - [130] ""And as for ISK, the alliance leadership was careless about it. Each corporation on its own. Even thou some corporations had several t2 BPO's, supposedly a stolen ARCANE Wyvern, some stolen towers etc. etc. and another corporation (guess who?) getting free Large POS Towers from BoB/KenZoku, the rest of the alliance did not and could not afford the careless attitude of the leadership."" Yes seems so. Careless attitude as u call it, was wasting maybe 2/3 towers per corp who deployed them (pnq). If you can spare 2bil for a little fun that went south. It's call risk taking fun We knew if pl came home we could not take pnq, if they didn't we most likely would have. Corps putting down 2bil or so for a chance for a station not worth it?

MohamedLoftie Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:02:00 - [131] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus See Aneu, let me explain why this is highly entertaining. We didn't claim to be better than you, we didn't start a 4 threads about PL failing, we didn't claim "you suck" (although you do suck). You did. Watching you failing again is not only entertaining, but it also convinces us faithful that there is, indeed, a good supreme Being up there in the skies, watching us all with a tender smile and protecting us from people like you. To those who had the misfortune of following him in the past, my condolences. To those that will follow him in the future, I wish them no harm, for Aneu is already a terrible punishment. I was not asked to login to EVE... so therefore their invasion of fountain could not have been that important. ---------------------------------------- Come to the dark side... We have cookies
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:47:00 - [132] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 20/04/2009 13:49:36 Originally by: torN Deception Originally by: MAXSuicide whats wrong with lallante? He's one of those old-school BoB douchebags who has a vastly inflated opinion of himself and his alliance because of what he believes is their incredibly(and always largely imaginary) prowess at internet spaceships, which has always been a good gag but is now a laugh riot that Kenzoku is just a **ty AAA pet who gets ground up into dogfood when MC 2.0 isn't there to pull their ass out of the fire(see: the last week) Also, he's the one who commissioned you-know-who to hack into the Goonfleet director forums and then stiffed he-who-must-not-be-named out of the agreed upon payment, causing him to hack into the BoB forums and blow the whistle on the whole BoB/T20 cheating thing cheers for actually responding appropriately to my post :) didnt know the stuff from the last paragraph (if its true) but as for the first bit; he will always be Shinra to me, and he seemed like a nice chap when i had chats with him, chowdown and co back in 04...lets not preach hate eh? <3 Originally by:** Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/)
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:49:00 - [133] Originally by: tropic142 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock ! If you want to steal from our reds your welcome to do the hard yards like the rest of us. If that's your attitude, why are you in an alliance? Obviously not to win it. Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
0ren Ishii Amarr Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:51:00 - [134] Originally by: tropic142 ""And as for ISK, the alliance leadership was careless about it. Each corporation on its own. Even thou some corporations had several t2 BPO's, supposedly a stolen ARCANE Wyvern, some stolen towers etc. etc. and another corporation (guess who?) getting free Large POS Towers from BoB/KenZoku, the rest of the alliance did not and could not afford the careless attitude of the leadership."" Yes seems so. Careless attitude as u call it, was wasting maybe 2/3 towers per corp who deployed them (pnq). If you can spare 2bil for a little fun that went south. It's call risk taking fun We knew if pl came home we could not take pnq, if they didn't we most likely would have. Corps putting down 2bil or so for a chance for a station not worth it? Towers ?!?! You mean ARCANE stolen towers right ? Eve is an illnes there is no cure for !
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:58:00 - [135] Edited by: Shinnen on 20/04/2009 13:58:16 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/) FOE do exist, and flew with us a bit in 0.0, but afaik unlike PMS, their primary goal was not to take 0.0 space. Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
Firkragg Amarr Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 14:10:00 - [136] good look to the majority of puppets on the future endeavours. I hope other people have learnt their lessons about aneu now.
darth solo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse death from above..	Posted - 2009.04.20 15:39:00 - [137] Originally by: tropic142 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Seems like NOINT was the only corporation to gain members. Haha! Anyways, in my eyes the failcascade of this alliance was because of poor leadership, communication and ISK. I feel that Aneu's rage is not quite right. The alliance did not listen to the small corporations, the alliance was basicly a couple of egomaniacs telling people what to do just to logoff right after and expect it to be carried out automaticly. Communication was **, many corporations did not have access to the leadership comms and most were kept out of the loop; they were not important enough. And as for ISK, the alliance leadership was careless about it. Each corporation on its own. Even thou some corporations had several t2 BPO's, supposedly a stolen ARCANE Wyvern, some stolen towers etc. etc. and another corporation (guess who?) getting free Large POS Towers from BoB/KenZoku, the rest of the alliance did not and could not afford the careless attitude of the leadership. All this started the **storm! PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! GONZO / CORP1 was the people getting spys into corps and stealing ships etc (reds only ofc), which was mainly me. Why should we give you the spoils of our hard work? If you want to steal from our reds your welcome to do the hard yards like the rest of us. thats where your going wrong, "you" and "we" will make corps distant, in an alliance its only ever "us". d solo.
djNME Minmatar DAB	Posted - 2009.04.20 15:49:00 - [138] Edited by: djNME on 20/04/2009 15:50:57 Originally by: Twoside Originally by: Heptameron damnnit! you could have at least checked his hangar for the mythical mothership! in all seriousness i would put money on most of those who follow him will regret it. The guys an arrogant and devisive f***wit without the skills to back it up. Since when can a MS dock? Futhermore, a shame to see what djnme and aneu made of DAB, they were once better then OV you know.. (and probably still are tbqh) I know your slow twocent so let me explain. I have always been the CEO of DAB except for about 8 weeks of EVE. That means when we pwned all the rzr corps and when I lead fleets with praise from Fredo/others. I know your bitter, for what I'm not sure. Get over it. Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3
Hesperius Caldari No Salvation PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.20 16:01:00 - [139] It was great to meet a lot of the people in Puppet Masters and great to meat a lot of you the on the battlefield in Fountain. No Salvation was asked to merge with another corp within Puppet Masters or go on a major recruitment campaign. Although there are some really fun people to play this game with, in Puppet Masters, we chose not to compromise our strong foundation and have withdrawn our assets. Give'em hell guys!
Colonel Xaven Caldari Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.20 17:14:00 - [140] Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas There has been a lot of conjecture surrounding our actions in Fountain and Aridia over the past couple of weeks. Not really. Proud member of RZR - Decadence.

SARPIDON Caldari Noir.	Posted - 2009.04.20 17:24:00 - [141] Shin, I told you no good would come from this...
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.20 17:42:00 - [142] Originally by: GODFATHER pos bashingin the last few days... i never saw one pl or arcane in the ops... so yobring that like whole fountain was fighting you . in my option 90% of the fights where made between sot and pm. Several of US have asked several of YOU, several times, in the last few days if you would like another fleet, and you guys keep saying "nah were good" etc... Sot is constantly wanting to "take all the credit" then cry about it later
Genitaalia Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.20 19:59:00 - [143] Originally by: djNME EDIT: Also will miss some of the people in PMS. Most of the people I flew with have earned my respect regardless. C4w3/Order/art/orange/UR too name a few. People that just wanted quality pew. ...This... fly safe.
John Blackthorn Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.20 20:04:00 - [144] Yes Glassmanipulator we have seen you have offered to assist in the removal of the remaining Puppet Pos's. However, there was no need to add more people considering they have abandoned the towers to there death. We had hoped for a few more good fights out of them. I'm surprised puppets drama spilled onto the boards and seems things are crashing down around them now. Guess we'll see some of them around in one form or another from time to time. -John Originally by: glassmanipulator Originally by: GODFATHER pos bashingin the last few days... i never saw one pl or arcane in the ops... so yobring that like whole fountain was fighting you . in my option 90% of the fights where made between sot and pm. Several of US have asked several of YOU, several times, in the last few days if you would like another fleet, and you guys keep saying "nah were good" etc... Sot is constantly wanting to "take all the credit" then cry about it later
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.20 20:16:00 - [145] Yea its all good brotha...Just givin you guys a hard time <3 SoT bye puppets... can't say im sad lol.
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.20 20:23:00 - [146] Just a note to all puppets and ex puppets, PL is offering Fountain rental and you are still welcome to partake. Then you can finally get into Fountain legitimately. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.04.20 23:18:00 - [147] Originally by: mazzilliu Just a note to all puppets and ex puppets, PL is offering Fountain rental and you are still welcome to partake. Then you can finally get into Fountain legitimately. <3 Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.04.20 23:19:00 - [148] Originally by: SARPIDON Shin, I told you no good would come from this... See you in space boy ;) Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
Roy Awesome Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.20 23:22:00 - [149] Hah, Anue gets his corp kicked from another alliance -Roy Awesome Now a CCP Navigator certified main!
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 00:44:00 - [150] Edited by: T''Karr on 21/04/2009 00:47:03 150th! EDIT: Seriously though... the alliance recruited too fast. too many unfamiliar faces were made top dogs in the alliance. And nobody was happy with it. People wernt x'ing up because the FC's were fail or the reasons for the op were fail... not because we were scared of loosing ships. We loved to pew, wether that was losing a ship or not... so losing ships had nothing to do with it.... ! And the fact is that QUAM leeving was a MAJOR blow since we had about 60-70% of the PMS cap fleet, that kinda laid the final blow to saving D4.... I had some EPIC fun in FoE and PMS, thanks to Arcane and SoT. Arcane put up some GREAT fights, and i will miss those fleet battles. Thanks to C4W3 and 0rder aswell. pen15 guys. --

T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 00:49:00 - [151] Just noticed some people bashing Arcane (SoT guys aswel?!?!?).... Arcane put up more fights in fountain than PL and SoT combined over the 4 months or so we were fighting there... Well done to Arcane, they obviously needed SoT and PL to help them, but Arcane put up the most fights and were involved in more fights out of all 3. --
Lysander Kaldenn Caldari Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.21 01:49:00 - [152] Too bad puppets, now I have no one left to smack talk... But I know I'll see all my favorites again. Don't let this small set back break your spirit. Fountian is your ancestral homeland. Sure you have been dashed upon it's cruel rocks time and time again. Lift yourselves up. Prepare. Your glory will come, YOUR time is nigh.
Volar Kang Gallente Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 02:12:00 - [153] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Originally by: Aneu Angellus To all you Aneu haters, all i have to say is, lol. I actually don't hate you Aneu, I just think it's well beyond a co-incidence the number of times you 'happen' to be an innocent, injured bystander when these kind of dramas kick off. It's possible that you've just been extremely unlucky, but personally I don't buy that. Having seen the way you deal with people when you're under pressure I have little confidence in your intentions on this one. Originally by: Aneu Angellus the name is decided upon Oh god. I don't think even a forum full of imaginary spaceship pilots is ready for the level of Emo nameage we're about to get thrown at us. Promise me that it has an 'x' and a '.' Originally by: Aneu Angellus There comes a time when people stop listening to those who talk a load of good words but then dont produce. Try telling that to Butter Dog :( Anyway, all the best PMS. Windy... I live for your posts. Not a week goes by when I dont do a search to see what pearls of wisdom you have given us. I have been asked by my wife not to drink anymore when reading your posts because of a chronic drooling problem associated with reading your posts. DONT EVER STOP!!!!!
AcheLone Caldari Pleasure Planets and Pie Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.04.21 03:31:00 - [154] awwww now i don't a chance to put my torps to any hostile ship since nobody want to tackle... its interesting to play in fountain.... to bad it just over when i just warming up.....well cowardly of course
RobertoLuongo Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 04:34:00 - [155] Originally by: AcheLone awwww now i don't a chance to put my torps to any hostile ship since nobody want to tackle... its interesting to play in fountain.... to bad it just over when i just warming up.....well cowardly of course quoting because wat :\|
Ethion Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 06:27:00 - [156] In a bit late... but I must say I'm very aroused... I really enjoyed my time in fountain... before the recruitfest began (which I was always against) There were some truely epic fights... Fuppet (pms/foe) fleet vs arcane and SoT in D4K gave me a raging mongrel... Arcane for the amount of smack we gave you... you always fought which I loved... I hope you learnt alot from the pew.. You did improve... to SoT... Mixed feelings.. some good fights although you learnt early to usually double our numbers before engaging which was fine (made me feel like a big man).. admitedly down the track it just got crap... No x'ing up.. no forward momentum 'who are these people in allliance?' TBH I just ignored aneu... he was just a buffoon posting in alliance mail... It came down to recruiting too many corps who had too many noobs... To the folks hanging around.. trim your fat and ** ** up as usual... It's all about the PVP and I am still very aroused Live free or Not at all
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 07:53:00 - [157] Tbh Ethion, i didnt even listen to Ari... He was one of the new people that everyone was confused and dismayed by (Becuase everyone said... But once again noone listened). Completly unknown to the people of the alliance then he arrives calling himself "god" and barking out orders and rules.... Whatever, its all in the past now. --
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 07:58:00 - [158] Originally by: djNME Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3 Nice vote of confidence right there. :) Anyways, yeah he might be right. But he has been wrong so many times and ****ed up and lied so many times there's extremely little faith in general from EVE towards him and basically that will always work against him, the bigger the alliance the bigger the trouble and it makes me confident to say that he nor DAB (aslong as Aneu is in DAB) will be able to take a leading role in any medium to large size alliance that is reasonably succesfull, not in a stable, long term way anyway. You should cut him loose tbfh and work towards refinding what once DAB great, a couple of partners that complemented your pvp knowledge and made DAB good in a number of ways. :D --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:10:00 - [159] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 21/04/2009 07:58:19 Originally by: djNME Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3 Nice vote of confidence right there. :) Anyways, yeah he might be right. But he has been wrong so many times and ****ed up and lied so many times there's extremely little faith in general from EVE towards him and basically that will always work against him, the bigger the alliance the bigger the trouble and it makes me confident to say that he nor DAB (aslong as Aneu is in DAB) will be able to take a leading role in any medium to large size alliance that is reasonably succesfull, not in a stable, long term way anyway. You should cut him loose tbfh and work towards refinding what once made DAB great, a couple of partners that complemented your pvp knowledge and made DAB good in a number of ways. :D Wasn't he in razor for half a year?
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:15:00 - [160] Not in any leading capacity. He started off as a grunt in CEI, where he caused endless amount of troubles. Then went over to DAB because we got tired of his antics and Dj promised to control him. Now since DAB has left RZR he's apparently some kind of leadership type in DAB though. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"

Twoside Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:17:00 - [161] Edited by: Twoside on 21/04/2009 08:18:17 Edited by: Twoside on 21/04/2009 08:17:45 Originally by: djNME Edited by: djNME on 20/04/2009 16:13:52 Originally by: Twoside Originally by: Heptameron damnnit! you could have at least checked his hangar for the mythical mothership! in all seriousness i would put money on most of those who follow him will regret it. The guys an arrogant and devisive f*wit without the skills to back it up. Since when can a MS dock? Futhermore, a shame to see what djnme and aneu made of DAB, they were once better then OV you know.. (and probably still are tbqh) I know your slow twocent so let me explain. I have always been the CEO of DAB except for about 8 weeks of EVE. That means when we pwned all the rzr corps and when I lead fleets with praise from Fredo/others. I know your bitter, for what I'm not sure. Get over it. Edit: for once Aneu might be part right in eve.. <3 ROFL, quoting this so you can't edit it out. Don't let reality hit you in the way out, you're the reason DAB went from a respectable corporation to the ** it is today. And I'm not bitter about that, just sad to see how you guttered a flourishing corporation. Good luck in your future failures dewd, I'm sure there are many to come!
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:23:00 - [162] I see Razor still love me. Don't be so venomous since all we did was try to show people how CEI were using other corporations to make them isk. Calm down - ITS A GAME! lol. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 08:32:00 - [163] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Calm down - ITS A GAME! lol. Irony overload.
HakerElite Caldari Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:02:00 - [164] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Over the past week myself and Malet both tried to get a backbone running for the alliance Really? Because I don't seem to remember you doing anything.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:11:00 - [165] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 21/04/2009 09:13:01 Originally by: HakerElite Originally by: Aneu Angellus Over the past week myself and Malet both tried to get a backbone running for the alliance Really? Because I don't seem to remember you doing anything. Yes - Because there was no 50 MP BS gang with about 9 dreads, 2 motherships and 4 carriers hitting POS's in Aridia was there? For two days in a row... Iv never professed to being a main FC but i do step up when others dont and things need to get done. Wasp - None of my posts have been rage nor crying, they have been statements of fact. Puppets in its most recent form has ended, a new era begins for all the corporations. I wish all corporations good luck with future endevours in whatever you my do, good fights to our old enemies and i look forward to fighting new ones. I play to enjoy and have fun... and thats exactly what im doing and am going to do. Aneu - your big fluffy lovable g@y ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:23:00 - [166] Edited by: T''Karr on 21/04/2009 09:26:58 tbh Aneu is right... Malet and Aneu were always talking about getting things back on track (And they did form a few fleets and ops to help with it, and the POS bashing one in Aridia to try and make us money...) So cut Aneu some slack... I think the original Ari post is VERY biased to what actualy happened and how Alliance members fealt, there were about 4 Corps thinking/already leeving PMS around the same time, and it had NOTHING to do with Aneu and it wasnt planned, it was just coincidence... The constant bickering and moaning from alliance members were just shrugged off by other senior alliance guys... As if nothing was happening, hense the big Corps leeving. It all went down hill when we thought we could possibly take PNQ. Why did we even bother? We should have just carried on from the success we had with D4, taking systems around us and close to us. We didnt NEED that station system (For isk, or for convenience). I suppose despite it going downhill after the PNQ saga, it didnt reely pick up befor that when PMS had several FoE corps join them.... because we went from a PvP alliance to a POS pewing and Space taking alliance. Which kinda put off a lot of alliance members. It's still a shame that we didnt just take fountain slowly and slowly like a bad infection instead we jumped everything we had at PNQ and took a massive morale drop when our BS fleet was ripped apart (They wernt tanked BS... heavy DPS with no reps since we were going for the station.......... so dont argue about that again SoT/Arcane/PL (Notice how ive moved SoT down the chain and Arcane up the chain ;) )). I need to stop myself from posting again !!! FOuntain was good fun, take care guys. --
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.21 09:53:00 - [167] tbh it doesnt suprise me at all that the truth is quite different to Ari's original post Corp 1 have a history of trying to spin failures and deflect blame, but when you look at the facts behind it things are not quite so rosy INSRG internally combusted after C4w3 was appointed leader - my corp immediately left because we knew what he was like, some others followed, and it became a shadow of its former self for a time before being put out of its misery then you have the whole Consortium/Requiem disaster, and now this its not a coincidence - history is simply repeating itself and it will wherever corp1 go (no offense guys, but you just can't lead alliances very well ) ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
0ren Ishii Amarr Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.21 10:47:00 - [168] Cry me a river ... we will colect all your tears Eve is an illnes there is no cure for !
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.04.21 11:00:00 - [169] Edited by: Shinnen on 21/04/2009 11:01:55 Originally by: T'Karr tbh Aneu is right... Malet and Aneu were always talking about getting things back on track (And they did form a few fleets and ops to help with it, and the POS bashing one in Aridia to try and make us money...) So cut Aneu some slack... I think the original Ari post is VERY biased to what actualy happened and how Alliance members fealt. This. Although I must say I didn't like the fact that Quam and DAB left PMS in the state that they did, this post is right. Malet and Aneu were the main ones running the EU pos-bashing and actual (alliance benefitting i.e. in Fountain) fleet ops. Anue's goals were different to what the alliance is now, Aneu was looking long term, and up until this weekend, so was the alliance. Last night there was a meeting was a ****-storm... alliance leadership were contradicting eachother and it was alltogether poorly organised. See you in the south boys ;)
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2009.04.21 11:31:00 - [170] I'll see you down south Shinnen. Our name is again, doubled contradiction in terms.

Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.21 13:16:00 - [171] This thread has definitely become lulz. Confirming all my fault and if we just would have listened to Aneu (i'm not dragging Malet into this), everything would have been great! Confirming I was totally ineffectual as a leader. Confirming none of the first two posts have any basis in fact and are 100% conjecture. Especially the part about Aneu trying to recruit all the old PMS corps. Confirming I never confronted Aneu! Confirming we shrugged off absolutely everything everyone said. (I have the epic posts on CEO forum to prove that we were not paying ANY ATTENTION AT ALL to what was going on and were TOTALLY DISCONNECTED from the problems and only Aneu could save us!) Confirming we could not possibly have taken PNQ. What a bad call. Confirming we didn't NEED that station system, and it was all the leadership's fault, and not a single CEO agreed to the decision! And if we just would have listened to Aneu... man. The guilt is really thick around my neck I think i'll go find a knife and stab myself with it... Originally by: Butter Dog INSRG internally combusted after C4w3 was appointed leader - my corp immediately left because we knew what he was like, some others followed, and it became a shadow of its former self for a time before being put out of its misery That's my favorite.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.21 13:22:00 - [172] Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 20/04/2009 13:58:16 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/) FOE do exist, and flew with us a bit in 0.0, but afaik unlike PMS, their primary goal was not to take 0.0 space. u would rather maintain hundreds (potentially) of POS? :P
Maxivo Gallente Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.21 13:58:00 - [173] Wasnt the original plan to be that when the alliance tourney ended, most of pms defected to FoE for the original plan of not takin space? Thought this was the whole point in bringing FoE back, now were just shoved to the back and no one (inc myself) seems to know whats happening with them?? Ive not logged in to eve since apocyrpha so this forum is all I have to go by. Someone please update me :). p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar??
T'Karr Minmatar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:33:00 - [174] Originally by: Maxivo Wasnt the original plan to be that when the alliance tourney ended, most of pms defected to FoE for the original plan of not takin space? Thought this was the whole point in bringing FoE back, now were just shoved to the back and no one (inc myself) seems to know whats happening with them?? Ive not logged in to eve since apocyrpha so this forum is all I have to go by. Someone please update me :). p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar?? Exactly.... we went from Not taking space... to trying to take PNQ. Ari, you might find that most CEO's and directors agree that taking PNQ was close to impossible. Nobody is saying that Aneu could have saved us, he's just getting a lot of unwarranted grief. I'd love to have read the CEO forums, all the great plans to get people PvPing and X'ing up again... I don't think anybody reely identified the problems within the Alliance fast enough or dealt with them fast enough. arrrgh stop me. --
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:39:00 - [175] Originally by: T'Karr I'd love to have read the CEO forums, all the great plans to get people PvPing and X'ing up again... I don't think anybody reely identified the problems within the Alliance fast enough or dealt with them fast enough. talking about and identifying problems was your problem.
Triff Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:49:00 - [176] Ive also been trying to keep up-to-date with whats been going on using the forums. It wont have surprised me if Cartiff and Skyfox had order a ban on COAD in hope to distance themselfs from PMS childish posts. From what I understand C4W3 convinced some of the main FOE corps to join them in expanding PMS - Who were increasingly unwantable pets to FOE - with promise of High End moons. Poor Judgement on Malet who is a CEO that trys to do the very best for his corp even if it means doing things he doesn't believe in. I hope FOE are having better luck than PMS and that skyfox's back gets better soon. Couple of Question tho, Who is ari? Was he around in my time in FOE? why did he become a leader? Id also like to be updated on the FOE situation Best of luck Srangey(Stingrey) and Maley on there new venture. Keep it poss free! Yours - Crax McGee
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 14:50:00 - [177] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 21/04/2009 14:51:07 Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This thread has definitely become lulz. The first two posts were lulz tbqh. Quote: Confirming all my fault and if we just would have listened to Aneu (i'm not dragging Malet into this), everything would have been great! Not at all, we all had parts to play but blaming someone else for your failures is not the way to go. Quote: Confirming I was totally ineffectual as a leader. Thats the thing, you were never a leader, you was never online to be a leader, you were more an annoyance stuck up in your ivory tower looking down at us mear mortals telling us we were all wrong. Quote: Confirming none of the first two posts have any basis in fact and are 100% conjecture. Especially the part about Aneu trying to recruit all the old PMS corps. Who said i havent tried or even suceeded in recruiting any old PMS corps? Your post implied i actually made PMS die, which infact i didnt. This is a perfect example of how you try to squirm your way out of what you say, one of the many contradictions you have said. Quote: Confirming I never confronted Aneu! We did indeed have a chat, it was more of a 'OMG HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME!' Quote: Confirming we shrugged off absolutely everything everyone said. (I have the epic posts on CEO forum to prove that we were not paying ANY ATTENTION AT ALL to what was going on and were TOTALLY DISCONNECTED from the problems and only Aneu could save us!) You listened, you interjected, you talked, you kept talking and would shut up until people were quite sick of what you were saying and would just agree to get you to shut up, i know i did it a few times. Quote: Confirming we could not possibly have taken PNQ. What a bad call. Told you this before we went for it - I said if PL defend it we will not take it, and look what happened - I still believe you live in lala land tbh. Quote: Confirming we didn't NEED that station system, and it was all the leadership's fault, and not a single CEO agreed to the decision! And if we just would have listened to Aneu... man. The guilt is really thick around my neck Hey we agree on something, we didnt need PNQ! Quote: I think i'll go find a knife and stab myself with it... Calm down with your emo rage, had enough of it when you ragequit... Originally by: Butter Dog INSRG internally combusted after C4w3 was appointed leader - my corp immediately left because we knew what he was like, some others followed, and it became a shadow of its former self for a time before being put out of its misery That's my favorite. Meh ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:02:00 - [178] LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Just say 'NO!' - boycott Aneu Angellus today for a better tomorrow!
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:07:00 - [179] Originally by: Centauris LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Not at all, PMS was done for before I even approached any corporations. I love how people not even involved in the situation wont listen to the majority of the other guys who are stating blunt facts on this forum. Hate me more cent, your bias doesnt make your point insignificant, honestly. Aneu ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:13:00 - [180] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Centauris LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Not at all, PMS was done for before I even approached any corporations. No it wasnt, you have a history and proven track record against you. You most definatelly had some part directly or indirectly in destabilizing yet again another alliance because you could see yourself getting no personal gain and or praise from how it currently was. Face it Aneu, you just cant "play the game" unless it is centered around you in some way. DIAF, RLY :)

Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:19:00 - [181] Originally by: Centauris Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Centauris LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Not at all, PMS was done for before I even approached any corporations. No it wasnt, you have a history and proven track record against you. You most definatelly had some part directly or indirectly in destabilizing yet again another alliance because you could see yourself getting no personal gain and or praise from how it currently was. Face it Aneu, you just cant "play the game" unless it is centered around you in some way. DIAF, RLY :) Yes - because i didnt really put that much effort into moving PMS forward, i didnt lead ops to create an isk inflow for the alliance. I didnt try to get things organised internally did i? No... i didnt do all of this. Cent, you know nothing about what has happened. Shadoo is probably an outsider who knew more about it than anyone else sat on the other side of the fence and he agrees with me. Most other corporations who were in PMS will also agree with me. The leadership sucked. QUAM and 4 other corps had decided to leave before i even thought of approaching them with the idea of creating a new alliance. Believe what you want, your bias just makes the effort you put into your post pointless. Aneu ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Dr Cidolfus Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 15:47:00 - [182] Originally by: T'Karr I'd love to have read the CEO forums, all the great plans to get people PvPing and X'ing up again... Wait a few days, pretty sure you'll have your chance
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 16:25:00 - [183] Originally by: Dr Cidolfus Originally by: T'Karr I'd love to have read the CEO forums, all the great plans to get people PvPing and X'ing up again... Wait a few days, pretty sure you'll have your chance heh heh heh http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM
Atina Palada Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.21 17:19:00 - [184] I dont know who in PM/FoE can think that he can take some station in Fontain without SOT/PL permision. What i think is that your leadership decide that SOT/PL will start to act against Arcane/ EH, that we will leave you to take this station's and then we will retake them, from you. You all know that even with 1300size you dont have our capital fleet count, not to mention combined capitals from PL/SOT/EH/Arcane. You just decide to spam POSes trying to take soverenity. Is there anyone is PM who ask himself, why SOT never come to siege our POSes in D4 and surounding systems. We was just pew/pewing with you. D4 was strategicaly no good place to fight you. Yes you was a little outnumbered most of the time, but your pods was 1jump from reshiping ang coming back in fights. We all know that you win several fights in D4 thatway. So we decided to let you play, to let you believe that you can get something, to let you deploy more and more towers. We was just waiting for some big move from your side. You was hitted very hard when you tryed to take our highend in Syndicate, and you never managed to take some of SOT pos's in our system. So finaly you get bored and start to recruit fast. We all know what this means - you will try to hit some station system. This was what we are waiting for, and we was sure that this will be your moral grave. ( i can link you posts in our forum about this from 2-4 months before - they are all at bulgarian language:) ) At the end i like'd you much. If i remove usual smacking and propaganda from your leadership you did verry well. We SOT was unprepared in the begining to face 60-70 well coordinated RRBS gang. You remind me for my corp BULG when we come for first time in Fountain. 60-80 hardcore players with a goal and willing's to finish it. Difference is that we somehow managed to do it. Your big mistake was this fast recruit. So many new corps, new desires, lots of noobs, misscomunications - you cant archive your goals with all this problems, or at least you cant do it in short time. Fly safe PM/FoE P.S. Why i think that Anue&Co will try again to take Fountain - for 5th or 6th or 7th time. I cant remember the count already. OSS BULGARIAN MAFIA SQUAD
HotSeat Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 17:35:00 - [185] I'm sorry who where these guys again? Was this the group we had to spend a day getting rid of ? If it is, sorry but I honestly don't remember any GF's. Maybe you had some with SOT or someone else, but I don't think it was with PL Speaking of GF's, Kenny was fun last night, not sure why they ended so early, was good numbers both sides and Shadoo was even holding off on the DD's _____________________________________ 9 out of 10 PL agree.... Dungar sucks
Soban Vuex Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:28:00 - [186] Edited by: Soban Vuex on 21/04/2009 18:28:33 As a final statement on PMS demise i would like to speak from my self as a pilot, in the time corp1 till the failcascade i had some great fights and TBH(and unbelievable) a few Very good 1v1s with ethion, cris, order and i find exactly those solo engagements what added to my experience, i never have bad feelings about enemy, especially not against a good one. Tho some ppl of you sucked deep well we all know who they are for the rest i wish you to have some nice time from now on, may be... "Try to take Fountain, again"Ö xD _____ siggis
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:31:00 - [187] Shooting and podding people ratting and not in gangs is bad mmmmkay!
Soggybottom Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:31:00 - [188] Protip: When the FC yells at the fleet it lowers morale and makes people not X up future ops.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:53:00 - [189] Originally by: Soggybottom Protip: When the FC yells at the fleet it lowers morale and makes people not X up future ops. Then you havent flown with Light Darkness signature is not EVE related, please change. ~WeatherMan
Raneru Gallente Euphoria Released Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:55:00 - [190] Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 20/04/2009 13:58:16 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/) FOE do exist, and flew with us a bit in 0.0, but afaik unlike PMS, their primary goal was not to take 0.0 space. I think the original idea was for PMS to merge into FOE and form a large roaming alliance. Then people start talking about taking space and putting up towers, which inevitably lead to this thread

Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:21:00 - [191] Awesome alliance y'all had there. I'm sure no one could see this coming when taking a look at the corporations involved and the people who were leading. :shock:
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.21 22:25:00 - [192] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 21/04/2009 22:26:06 Originally by: Maxivo p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar?? ur the first person to say "omg hi max!" - nobody else remembers me :'( even crax didnt acknowledge my presence; and i crave attention Originally by: Raneru Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 20/04/2009 13:58:16 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/) FOE do exist, and flew with us a bit in 0.0, but afaik unlike PMS, their primary goal was not to take 0.0 space. I think the original idea was for PMS to merge into FOE and form a large roaming alliance. Then people start talking about taking space and putting up towers, which inevitably lead to this thread they didnt listen!
ArmyOfMe Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:10:00 - [193] OMG HI MAX
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:19:00 - [194] Originally by: Raneru Originally by: Shinnen Edited by: Shinnen on 20/04/2009 13:58:16 Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: Admiral IceBlock PS: We're getting kicked; SMALL CORP LOOKING FOR GROUP! what about FoE iceblocky? what happened to them? (its been asked a few times but nobody seems to want to respond :/) FOE do exist, and flew with us a bit in 0.0, but afaik unlike PMS, their primary goal was not to take 0.0 space. I think the original idea was for PMS to merge into FOE and form a large roaming alliance. Then people start talking about taking space and putting up towers, which inevitably lead to this thread Well it's back to that, In the alliance meeting, PMS decided to live in HH and not try to take any 0.0 space. Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:23:00 - [195] Originally by: Ace Frehley Originally by: Soggybottom Protip: When the FC yells at the fleet it lowers morale and makes people not X up future ops. Then you havent flown with Light Darkness LD was an epic FC. Not even trolling, no really. To him eve was just one big war. Originally by: Admiral IceBlock I'll see you down south Shinnen. Our name is again, doubled contradiction in terms. Indeed. Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
Vasili Z Minmatar Pyre of Gods	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:25:00 - [196] Originally by: Ace Frehley Originally by: Soggybottom Protip: When the FC yells at the fleet it lowers morale and makes people not X up future ops. Then you havent flown with Light Darkness holy ** GET IN YOUR BEST **ING SHIP RIGHT NOW AND JOIN FLEET ------- P0GS is recruiting; no fatties
Admiral IceBlock Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:28:00 - [197] HI MAX :)
Triff Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.21 23:28:00 - [198] Originally by: MAXSuicide ur the first person to say "omg hi max!" - nobody else remembers me :'( even crax didnt acknowledge my presence; and i crave attention omg hi max
Raneru Gallente Euphoria Released Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.22 00:13:00 - [199] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 21/04/2009 22:26:06 Originally by: Maxivo p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar?? ur the first person to say "omg hi max!" - nobody else remembers me :'( even crax didnt acknowledge my presence; and i crave attention I remember you, you made the first pvp video I watched back in 05, it was an FOE one as well
StainLessStealRat Caldari Divine Retribution Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.22 01:27:00 - [200] Originally by: Soggybottom Protip: When the FC yells at the fleet it lowers morale and makes people not X up future ops. No way.The highlight of my week is when Oren gets so ****ed he breaks into bulgarian. Think it should read "When a bad FC or FC with no sense of humor yells at the fleet it lowers morale and makes people not X up future ops" P.S bad day Franky, Carrier and a Rorq down in one day PMS please dont go!

Shane Darman Gallente Order of Nephilim Scalar Federation	Posted - 2009.04.22 01:35:00 - [201] Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah..........! Lois this isn't my batman glass! Anyway but back to more realistic news. has this PMS conquest of sorts been all a cover up for us to not notice PL and ARC switch a constellation with each other (guess PL bummed SoT outta 2-3 systems =P) so PL can begin the infamous start of sov 4 (in fountain of all places?!?)? Proofz!?!? my 2 cent....err cents
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.22 02:06:00 - [202] Originally by: Shane Darman Woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah woah..........! Lois this isn't my batman glass! Anyway but back to more realistic news. has this PMS conquest of sorts been all a cover up for us to not notice PL and ARC switch a constellation with each other (guess PL bummed SoT outta 2-3 systems =P) so PL can begin the infamous start of sov 4 (in fountain of all places?!?)? Proofz!?!? my 2 cent....err cents You are flat out wrong. We did it to reinforce our position because we feared the puppet masters' onslaught.
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.22 04:42:00 - [203] To answer shane. You are wrong. WRONG! We are obviously using arcane as a meatshield for the inevitable fountain invasion from kenny.
Hubris Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.22 05:07:00 - [204] Originally by: Vladic Ka To answer shane. You are wrong. WRONG! We are obviously using arcane as a meatshield for the inevitable fountain invasion from kenny. the cool thing is we are ready to install more alliances as meat shields as well. Convo xxangelxx in game she will give you details on the high end moons you will get in return. Hi5
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.22 10:12:00 - [205] Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas lies and spin At the start of the thread I was stupid enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have. I should have remembered what Corp1 leadership was really like - paranoid and delusional. History repeats itself yet again. You cannot lead, although you have written verbal dexterity, I'll give you that. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Balistic Void Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.04.22 11:17:00 - [206] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas lies and spin At the start of the thread I was stupid enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have. I should have remembered what Corp1 leadership was really like - paranoid and delusional. History repeats itself yet again. You cannot lead, although you have written verbal dexterity, I'll give you that. Who are you calling paranoid and delusional? This could affect your chances of being bought beer.
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.22 12:02:00 - [207] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Centauris Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Centauris LOL The old "im not a trouble maker, i was just trying to help the other corps relize that CEI was stealing Isk" Just like your trying to get the other corps in PMS to see how bad the alliance is being run right Aneu? and then you get to try and destroy another alliance with lies and awfulness and try and revive something out of it? Face it your the virus of eve and the sooner everyone catches on the better :) Not at all, PMS was done for before I even approached any corporations. No it wasnt, you have a history and proven track record against you. You most definatelly had some part directly or indirectly in destabilizing yet again another alliance because you could see yourself getting no personal gain and or praise from how it currently was. Face it Aneu, you just cant "play the game" unless it is centered around you in some way. DIAF, RLY :) Yes - because i didnt really put that much effort into moving PMS forward, i didnt lead ops to create an isk inflow for the alliance. I didnt try to get things organised internally did i? No... i didnt do all of this. Cent, you know nothing about what has happened. Shadoo is probably an outsider who knew more about it than anyone else sat on the other side of the fence and he agrees with me. Most other corporations who were in PMS will also agree with me. The leadership sucked. QUAM and 4 other corps had decided to leave before i even thought of approaching them with the idea of creating a new alliance. Believe what you want, your bias just makes the effort you put into your post pointless. Aneu Sure i know what happened. Aneu was in another alliance and now is not. Once a dog always a dog. Enough said
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.22 12:33:00 - [208] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 22/04/2009 12:33:47 Originally by: Centauris Sure i know what happened. Aneu was in another alliance and now is not. Once a dog always a dog. Enough said Oh no she di'en! Dude - That is a terrible reply... dogs... seriously... please try better. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.22 13:14:00 - [209] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 22/04/2009 12:33:47 Originally by: Centauris Sure i know what happened. Aneu was in another alliance and now is not. Once a dog always a dog. Enough said Oh no she di'en! Dude - That is a terrible reply... dogs... seriously... please try better. The good thing with you Aneu is you dont require alot of effort or thought, so almost anything will do. You should really put more effort into failurecascading alliances and less dribbling on the forums, stick to what your good at and known for.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.22 13:17:00 - [210] Originally by: Centauris Originally by: Aneu Angellus Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 22/04/2009 12:33:47 Originally by: Centauris Sure i know what happened. Aneu was in another alliance and now is not. Once a dog always a dog. Enough said Oh no she di'en! Dude - That is a terrible reply... dogs... seriously... please try better. The good thing with you Aneu is you dont require alot of effort or thought, so almost anything will do. You should really put more effort into failurecascading alliances and less dribbling on the forums, stick to what your good at and known for. I am really dissapointed with your replies... you need to get some lessons off Grumpy methinks...

MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.22 13:54:00 - [211] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 22/04/2009 13:57:07 Originally by: Raneru Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 21/04/2009 22:26:06 Originally by: Maxivo p.s. OMG HI MAX, remember me?? Tragar?? ur the first person to say "omg hi max!" - nobody else remembers me :'( even crax didnt acknowledge my presence; and i crave attention I remember you, you made the first pvp video I watched back in 05, it was an FOE one as well it was a simpler time back then...
Maxivo Gallente Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:02:00 - [212] You didnt say if you remembered me or not max :P.. I was a tad annoyed when I returned and the only one who remembered me was Ugluuk and Baagpuss :(
Triff Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:19:00 - [213] Originally by: Maxivo You didnt say if you remembered me or not max :P.. I was a tad annoyed when I returned and the only one who remembered me was Ugluuk and Baagpuss :( Max dont reply to maxivo until he logs on and deals us in with whats going down with FOE. ;)
Maxivo Gallente Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:26:00 - [214] No crax its a secret :P... One youd more than likley be sad your missing out on .
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:30:00 - [215] Originally by: Balistic Void Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas lies and spin At the start of the thread I was stupid enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have. I should have remembered what Corp1 leadership was really like - paranoid and delusional. History repeats itself yet again. You cannot lead, although you have written verbal dexterity, I'll give you that. Who are you calling paranoid and delusional? This could affect your chances of being bought beer. hehe, my apologies BV, you always had your head screwed on A voice of reason in the madhouse etc
128th ABC123 Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:31:00 - [216] Originally by: tropic142 Edited by: tropic142 on 19/04/2009 17:54:11 pen fifteenth*** thanks gm's order cant post due to pen 15 in threads Aren't you Jim Lovell's alt?? Almost sure you are...
SupaFlyTNT Caldari Euphoria Released Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:45:00 - [217] Originally by: Maxivo You didnt say if you remembered me or not max :P.. I was a tad annoyed when I returned and the only one who remembered me was Ugluuk and Baagpuss :( Im pretty sure I spent some time station spinning with Max in Obe whilst moaning about the state of eve in general sometime in 2005. Didnt know you were back either Tragar. Is Baggy paying again? Get Wacky and Pat back too and Eve will implode
Maxivo Gallente Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.22 14:51:00 - [218] Yea im back, sold my character on returning tho after I seen what a mess his skills were . Baagy was back for a while when I came back last year, not sure what hes doing now. I miss Zeron Zeth and Drunken0ne...
Triff Caldari Malevolent Evolution The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.22 15:30:00 - [219] Originally by: Maxivo No crax its a secret :P... One youd more than likley be sad your missing out on . If I felt like i was missing out on playing eve i'd play it. There's a reason i dont log in homeslice. just querious to how the lads are doing. CraxMcGee
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul	Posted - 2009.04.22 17:27:00 - [220] Posting just to say HI MAX! oh and... Some people are in denial, Some people are without a clue to begin with, Some people overate their abilities to the detriment of those around them, ... And some people are named Aneu.

MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp	Posted - 2009.04.22 23:09:00 - [221] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 22/04/2009 23:12:46 totally highjacking this thread.. it needed some class anyway; way too much aneu in here to be healthy.. bit like smoking i guess (<3 u aneu) i have photographic memory so ofc i remember all of u. goes back to the CFS days with some of u (hai avernus ), and i spent a lot of my eve time station spinning whining about the state of eve (like, wtf? cant fly my bship into hostile 0.0? wtf u on lads!? im not flying no hac!)..that hasnt changed
SER 100LE Caldari Kumovi Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.23 11:04:00 - [222] Well it was fun, just i dont know how did we SOT had like 3 to 1 man in fleet's... Ur alliance was bigger, and stronger (so u guys did say) we r just bunch of pve and ratting ppl, plz come invade us again...... and gf to all pilots involved..... p.s. to all fuppet pvp pilots find better leadership... and once again GF to all puppets who wanted to fight...... (respect to dozen guys)
Sandwich PvP Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.23 14:58:00 - [223] Wasn't more like SOT wouldn't engage without 3-1 odds? It was a pity that leadership decided that the pnq idea would work. Was more fun when we just held the edge of fountain and chased fountain gangs all over. The only fight worth fighting is the one you should lose.
Egocentric Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.23 15:24:00 - [224] Look at your sig and stop complaining about our numbers. We will always have those numbers. 80% alliance fleet paticipation is not a miracle for SoT, as was for you muppets. Take it, or failcascade. And actually, this is what leadership stands for, unfortunately you will never know. GF&GL 2 U all.
Rehen Caldari Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.23 15:42:00 - [225] Long Live the CFS
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul	Posted - 2009.04.23 16:13:00 - [226] Originally by: Rehen Long Live the CFS o7
C4w3 Minmatar Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.24 10:20:00 - [227] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas lies and spin At the start of the thread I was stupid enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have. I should have remembered what Corp1 leadership was really like - paranoid and delusional. History repeats itself yet again. You cannot lead, although you have written verbal dexterity, I'll give you that. Corp 1 havent been in a leadership role, was at most me order and malet chatting about. then came the "Aneu" etc ..... But keep posting makes my **** work hours go by faster. ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 12:37:00 - [228] Originally by: C4w3 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas lies and spin At the start of the thread I was stupid enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have. I should have remembered what Corp1 leadership was really like - paranoid and delusional. History repeats itself yet again. You cannot lead, although you have written verbal dexterity, I'll give you that. Corp 1 havent been in a leadership role, was at most me order and malet chatting about. then came the "Aneu" etc ..... But keep posting makes my ** work hours go by faster. Rather disappointing to say the least C4. Were you stoned every time i tried to tell you Ari was ing everyone off? That corps were going to leave, when you came back 'I don't give a fk' and 'I laugh at them'... Seriously dude. I additionally took the liberty to bold and underline the direct conflict in your previous statement, you are part of Corp1, hence your direct involvement in leadership - in turn this means corp1 was involved in it. Also when you started speaking about having another main character in BoB caused quite a few people to not trust you. It was iffy as to where your loyalties were since you continually wanted us to keep PL in fountain and so forth. Don't try to pin all this ** on me as scape goat when it was your mis-management and inability to sort when everyone started to look to you for it. Aneu ________________** Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
TheBaptist Amarr Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.24 12:51:00 - [229] You mad?
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 12:58:00 - [230] Originally by: TheBaptist You mad? Nope. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE

Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 17:29:00 - [231] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Also when you started speaking about having another main character in BoB caused quite a few people to not trust you. It was iffy as to where your loyalties were since you continually wanted us to keep PL in fountain and so forth. This post has so much irony it is unreal. Originally by: Aneu Angellus We are holding PL in fountain, sure we are taking some tower losses but they are insignificant in the larger scale of things. Originally by: Aneu Angellus We are a new alliance, we have done things already that have BoB interested in having us as allies - Sir Molle himself convo'd me yesterday Who is doing what now?
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 17:34:00 - [232] Originally by: Vladic Ka Originally by: Aneu Angellus Also when you started speaking about having another main character in BoB caused quite a few people to not trust you. It was iffy as to where your loyalties were since you continually wanted us to keep PL in fountain and so forth. This post has so much irony it is unreal. Originally by: Aneu Angellus We are holding PL in fountain, sure we are taking some tower losses but they are insignificant in the larger scale of things. Originally by: Aneu Angellus We are a new alliance, we have done things already that have BoB interested in having us as allies - Sir Molle himself convo'd me yesterday Who is doing what now? There is a difference between working with someone and working for someone. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus Chief Fluffer, PMS Subfluffer, FOE
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.24 17:37:00 - [233] This last page has been great reading. A++++ would visit again!
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 17:52:00 - [234] Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This last page has been great reading. A++++ would visit again! Its nice to see that after all your spew about doing the right thing and honor that you took a data dump of PMS forums and have given it to PL. Gratis Ari, classy. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.24 17:58:00 - [235] Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 24/04/2009 18:01:29 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This last page has been great reading. A++++ would visit again! Its nice to see that after all your spew about doing the right thing and honor that you took a data dump of PMS forums and have given it to PL. Gratis Ari, classy. Sorry, you have me mistaken for someone else. At least come with some trumped up evidence for your baseless accusations, you lying sack of ****.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:03:00 - [236] Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This last page has been great reading. A++++ would visit again! Its nice to see that after all your spew about doing the right thing and honor that you took a data dump of PMS forums and have given it to PL. Gratis Ari, classy. Sorry, you have me mistaken for someone else. It's funny how i just get told PL have a datadump of the PMS forums, when someone uses a quote from the leadership section of the forum. The only people with the ability to do that was you Tmarte and Rowejob. I know where my money is going. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
hantwo Amarr S.A.S Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:08:00 - [237] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This last page has been great reading. A++++ would visit again! Its nice to see that after all your spew about doing the right thing and honor that you took a data dump of PMS forums and have given it to PL. Gratis Ari, classy. Sorry, you have me mistaken for someone else. It's funny how i just get told PL have a datadump of the PMS forums, when someone uses a quote from the leadership section of the forum. The only people with the ability to do that was you Tmarte and Rowejob. I know where my money is going. tbh it wasn't that an exciting read, i fell asleep Why me eh?
Captain Thunk Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:11:00 - [238] Originally by: Aneu Angellus It's funny how i just get told PL have a datadump of the PMS forums, when someone uses a quote from the leadership section of the forum. The only people with the ability to do that was you Tmarte and Rowejob. I know where my money is going. Your leadership has deserted you, they've sold you out...etc...
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:12:00 - [239] Edited by: Arimathea Anthalas on 24/04/2009 18:12:28 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas This last page has been great reading. A++++ would visit again! Its nice to see that after all your spew about doing the right thing and honor that you took a data dump of PMS forums and have given it to PL. Gratis Ari, classy. Sorry, you have me mistaken for someone else. It's funny how i just get told PL have a datadump of the PMS forums, when someone uses a quote from the leadership section of the forum. The only people with the ability to do that was you Tmarte and Rowejob. I know where my money is going. Actually I don't have the ability to provide a dump, and I was the first person to notify Tmarte and Rowejob of the compromise. The forums aren't hosted on my machine and my admin access has been limited at best. Also, you may not be familiar with PL's good friend Kugu (wow banned word on the board, LOL), I invite you to do some research. There are automated forum archivers out there that can use anyone's account with access to the forum, also. Sorry to disappoint you, but I didn't do it.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:16:00 - [240] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 24/04/2009 18:20:08 Originally by: Arimathea Anthalas Actually I don't have the ability to provide a dump, and I was the first person to notify Tmarte and Rowejob of the compromise. The forums aren't hosted on my machine and my admin access has been limited at best. Also, you may not be familiar with PL's good friend Kugu (wow banned word on the board, LOL), I invite you to do some research. There are automated forum archivers out there that can use anyone's account with access to the forum, also. Sorry to disappoint you, but I didn't do it. I'm quite aware of who Kugu is. Very bad call Ari. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus

Captain Thunk Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:18:00 - [241] Heh, if PL had access to PMS director forums then we wouldn't be wondering where the towers BoB gave you went.
Arimathea Anthalas Gallente Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:22:00 - [242] Originally by: Aneu I'm quite aware of who Kugu is. Very bad call Ari. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:23:00 - [243] Originally by: Captain Thunk Heh, if PL had access to PMS director forums then we wouldn't be wondering where the towers BoB gave you went. 8 large amarr I still have 3, rest were given out as reimbursement. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
Gaius Capua Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 19:17:00 - [244] You guys "said" you had access to our forums, but we actually "did" have access to yours.
Dinique Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 21:51:00 - [245] Maybe Aneu should use his PL forum access to find out who gave us their forum dump heh _____ The species has amused itself to death
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 21:57:00 - [246] How can you even consider ripping ari when he was going to spend all that RL money to save the alliance? Vote Mazzilliu for CSM!
the blender Caldari Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.24 22:22:00 - [247] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Also when you started speaking about having another main character in BoB caused quite a few people to not trust you. It was iffy as to where your loyalties were since you continually wanted us to keep PL in fountain and so forth. Don't try to pin all this ** on me as scape goat when it was your mis-management and inability to sort ** when everyone started to look to you for it. Aneu I'm gonna use some pins so this will sting a little :) Originally Posted by [DAB] Aneu Angellus I think we need to look at timing more than anything. We need to hold PL in fountain for as long as possible before we go anywhere imo. Originally Posted by [DAB] Aneu Angellus Additionally i have been speaking to BoB and have another chat with Molle upcoming. Expect more information on them soon - but i am pushing to ensure we do things timed at roughly the same time meaning PL will have to openly choose between showing goons the finger or leaving their pets to defend themselves, either of which further what we are doing here. We all see who was really riding molles love boat too fail "I'm gonna put you in a little dress and pod you!"
Mik kyo Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 22:25:00 - [248] I don't think we should give up on Fountain. The grass is not greener in Insmother.
Zaphod Jones Minmatar Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.04.24 23:34:00 - [249] Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya O Lord, kumbaya
Anuqet Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 00:39:00 - [250] I'm just sitting here watching the latest 90210 episode

Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 01:37:00 - [251] Originally by: Anuqet I'm just sitting here watching the latest 90210 episode You call my taste in TV bad?
Wasp O'Ryan Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 01:57:00 - [252] Originally by: Vladic Ka How can you even consider ripping ari when he was going to spend all that RL money to save the alliance?
Elektrea Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 03:27:00 - [253] Edited by: Elektrea on 25/04/2009 03:27:08 Quote: PL you are failing by hitting us, you are not hurting us, you are not even affecting us. Your killing your apparent allies which is absolutely HILARIOUS. We will continue with what we are doing and we are loving it. PEN15 I was told to ----------
Kitano Caldari THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.25 07:40:00 - [254] Originally by: Gaius Capua You guys "said" you had access to our forums, but we actually "did" have access to yours. Im the best looking aren't I? Sig removed, lacks EVE related content - Mitnal
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 15:55:00 - [255] Edited by: mazzilliu on 25/04/2009 15:57:37 Originally by: Gaius Capua You guys "said" you had access to our forums, but we actually "did" have access to yours. hahaha if he actually did have access to our forums he would have seen the spillage of lots of PMS director forums accessible by even our lowest ranked members, and more coming later when certain people finish sorting through da ~PL DATA DUMP~ the full release will be made to the public on april 30th, youall know where to look http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 15:57:00 - [256] Originally by: Vladic Ka How can you even consider ripping ari when he was going to spend all that RL money to save the alliance? yeah, that's just not nice Quote: Originally Posted by [CORP1] Arimathea I am considering buying an assload of GTCs on Friday and pumping the 90-120B that results into alliance, 4B per corp that participated in PNQ for BS replacements and tower replacements (even though some of our towers were free), and then the rest to buy dreads. but you never seemed to like the guy anyways, so i guess anything to tear him down. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM
yhellothar Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 16:44:00 - [257] Edited by: yhellothar on 25/04/2009 16:43:52
Hast Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 16:44:00 - [258] and yet again, Aneu shows his colours. ahahaha it never gets old Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Dray Caldari The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.04.25 17:18:00 - [259] Originally by: Admiral Frools Originally by: Anuqet I'm just sitting here watching the latest 90210 episode You call my taste in TV bad? Your taste in everything is bad, as for the snowniggs its a genetic trait that they have to watch crap tv, the memories of Jogyn going afk to watch gossip girl still makes me weep.
agent apple Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 17:33:00 - [260] Originally by: Dray Originally by: Admiral Frools Originally by: Anuqet I'm just sitting here watching the latest 90210 episode You call my taste in TV bad? Your taste in everything is bad, as for the snowniggs its a genetic trait that they have to watch crap tv, the memories of Jogyn going afk to watch gossip girl still makes me weep. MaZ has p.good taste in lino tbh

Dray Caldari The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.04.25 17:39:00 - [261] Originally by: agent apple Originally by: Dray Originally by: Admiral Frools Originally by: Anuqet I'm just sitting here watching the latest 90210 episode You call my taste in TV bad? Your taste in everything is bad, as for the snowniggs its a genetic trait that they have to watch crap tv, the memories of Jogyn going afk to watch gossip girl still makes me weep. MaZ has p.good taste in lino tbh How could I forget the lino.
Tobruk Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 20:46:00 - [262] Originally by: PMS internal forums As of right now I can confidently say that we are no match for PL Another one bites the dust ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.25 21:20:00 - [263] Originally by: Tobruk Originally by: PMS internal forums As of right now I can confidently say that we are no match for PL Another one bites the dust Is that my quote? :P ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
Mr Rive Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 21:25:00 - [264] Edited by: Mr Rive on 25/04/2009 21:25:36 I just had to post this log, ive removed the spam, but theres basically about 2 hours of this, with nonsensical rants inbetween about how its not their pos were killing anyway. This really does deserve posting and ill defy anyone who says it doesnt [ 2009.04.10 13:43:17 ] sidthesexist > Would i honestly tell you what we are doing Frog/Shadoo? [ 2009.04.10 13:43:21 ] sidthesexist > You have no idea what we are doing [ 2009.04.10 13:43:25 ] sidthesexist > You dont know what we are doing [ 2009.04.10 13:43:29 ] sidthesexist > LAWL [ 2009.04.10 13:43:32 ] Elendar > your losing posses [ 2009.04.10 13:43:33 ] Shadoo > we don't need you to tell us :) [ 2009.04.10 13:43:37 ] Shadoo > we know what you were doing :) [ 2009.04.10 13:43:41 ] sidthesexist > No Shadoo [ 2009.04.10 13:43:42 ] sidthesexist > You dont [ 2009.04.10 13:43:45 ] Shadoo > yes sid [ 2009.04.10 13:43:45 ] sidthesexist > Only 3 people do [ 2009.04.10 13:43:46 ] T'Karr > no, Arcane are loosing POSs [ 2009.04.10 13:43:46 ] Shadoo > we do [ 2009.04.10 13:43:48 ] Chevron7 > except some time [ 2009.04.10 13:43:51 ] sidthesexist > No Shadoo [ 2009.04.10 13:43:54 ] Shadoo > you forget who you are speaking to [ 2009.04.10 13:43:56 ] sidthesexist > I can guarantee you dont [ 2009.04.10 13:44:00 ] Chevron7 > PL got misinformed [ 2009.04.10 13:44:01 ] Chevron7 > lol [ 2009.04.10 13:44:01 ] Shadoo > I can guarantee you I do [ 2009.04.10 13:44:04 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:06 ] sidthesexist > What are we doing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:12 ] sidthesexist > If you so good [ 2009.04.10 13:44:13 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:15 ] sidthesexist > I know [ 2009.04.10 13:44:17 ] sidthesexist > 2 others know [ 2009.04.10 13:44:18 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:21 ] sidthesexist > What are we doing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:24 ] Shadoo > aaahahahhahhaa [ 2009.04.10 13:44:27 ] sidthesexist > Exactly [ 2009.04.10 13:44:28 ] sidthesexist > You suck [ 2009.04.10 13:44:30 ] sidthesexist > And know nothing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:33 ] sidthesexist > Run along
hantwo Amarr S.A.S Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 21:28:00 - [265] Originally by: Mr Rive Edited by: Mr Rive on 25/04/2009 21:25:36 I just had to post this log, ive removed the spam, but theres basically about 2 hours of this, with nonsensical rants inbetween about how its not their pos were killing anyway. This really does deserve posting and ill defy anyone who says it doesnt [ 2009.04.10 13:43:17 ] sidthesexist > Would i honestly tell you what we are doing Frog/Shadoo? [ 2009.04.10 13:43:21 ] sidthesexist > You have no idea what we are doing [ 2009.04.10 13:43:25 ] sidthesexist > You dont know what we are doing [ 2009.04.10 13:43:29 ] sidthesexist > LAWL [ 2009.04.10 13:43:32 ] Elendar > your losing posses [ 2009.04.10 13:43:33 ] Shadoo > we don't need you to tell us :) [ 2009.04.10 13:43:37 ] Shadoo > we know what you were doing :) [ 2009.04.10 13:43:41 ] sidthesexist > No Shadoo [ 2009.04.10 13:43:42 ] sidthesexist > You dont [ 2009.04.10 13:43:45 ] Shadoo > yes sid [ 2009.04.10 13:43:45 ] sidthesexist > Only 3 people do [ 2009.04.10 13:43:46 ] T'Karr > no, Arcane are loosing POSs [ 2009.04.10 13:43:46 ] Shadoo > we do [ 2009.04.10 13:43:48 ] Chevron7 > except some time [ 2009.04.10 13:43:51 ] sidthesexist > No Shadoo [ 2009.04.10 13:43:54 ] Shadoo > you forget who you are speaking to [ 2009.04.10 13:43:56 ] sidthesexist > I can guarantee you dont [ 2009.04.10 13:44:00 ] Chevron7 > PL got misinformed [ 2009.04.10 13:44:01 ] Chevron7 > lol [ 2009.04.10 13:44:01 ] Shadoo > I can guarantee you I do [ 2009.04.10 13:44:04 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:06 ] sidthesexist > What are we doing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:12 ] sidthesexist > If you so good [ 2009.04.10 13:44:13 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:15 ] sidthesexist > I know [ 2009.04.10 13:44:17 ] sidthesexist > 2 others know [ 2009.04.10 13:44:18 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:21 ] sidthesexist > What are we doing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:24 ] Shadoo > aaahahahhahhaa [ 2009.04.10 13:44:27 ] sidthesexist > Exactly [ 2009.04.10 13:44:28 ] sidthesexist > You suck [ 2009.04.10 13:44:30 ] sidthesexist > And know nothing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:33 ] sidthesexist > Run along to be fair i read the PMS forums and didn't a clue what thier plans were either. Why me eh?
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.25 21:33:00 - [266] Originally by: Mr Rive Edited by: Mr Rive on 25/04/2009 21:25:36 I just had to post this log, ive removed the spam, but theres basically about 2 hours of this, with nonsensical rants inbetween about how its not their pos were killing anyway. This really does deserve posting and ill defy anyone who says it doesnt [ 2009.04.10 13:43:17 ] sidthesexist > Would i honestly tell you what we are doing Frog/Shadoo? [ 2009.04.10 13:43:21 ] sidthesexist > You have no idea what we are doing [ 2009.04.10 13:43:25 ] sidthesexist > You dont know what we are doing [ 2009.04.10 13:43:29 ] sidthesexist > LAWL [ 2009.04.10 13:43:32 ] Elendar > your losing posses [ 2009.04.10 13:43:33 ] Shadoo > we don't need you to tell us :) [ 2009.04.10 13:43:37 ] Shadoo > we know what you were doing :) [ 2009.04.10 13:43:41 ] sidthesexist > No Shadoo [ 2009.04.10 13:43:42 ] sidthesexist > You dont [ 2009.04.10 13:43:45 ] Shadoo > yes sid [ 2009.04.10 13:43:45 ] sidthesexist > Only 3 people do [ 2009.04.10 13:43:46 ] T'Karr > no, Arcane are loosing POSs [ 2009.04.10 13:43:46 ] Shadoo > we do [ 2009.04.10 13:43:48 ] Chevron7 > except some time [ 2009.04.10 13:43:51 ] sidthesexist > No Shadoo [ 2009.04.10 13:43:54 ] Shadoo > you forget who you are speaking to [ 2009.04.10 13:43:56 ] sidthesexist > I can guarantee you dont [ 2009.04.10 13:44:00 ] Chevron7 > PL got misinformed [ 2009.04.10 13:44:01 ] Chevron7 > lol [ 2009.04.10 13:44:01 ] Shadoo > I can guarantee you I do [ 2009.04.10 13:44:04 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:06 ] sidthesexist > What are we doing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:12 ] sidthesexist > If you so good [ 2009.04.10 13:44:13 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:15 ] sidthesexist > I know [ 2009.04.10 13:44:17 ] sidthesexist > 2 others know [ 2009.04.10 13:44:18 ] sidthesexist > Tell me [ 2009.04.10 13:44:21 ] sidthesexist > What are we doing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:24 ] Shadoo > aaahahahhahhaa [ 2009.04.10 13:44:27 ] sidthesexist > Exactly [ 2009.04.10 13:44:28 ] sidthesexist > You suck [ 2009.04.10 13:44:30 ] sidthesexist > And know nothing [ 2009.04.10 13:44:33 ] sidthesexist > Run along Doesn't change the simple fact Shadoo didn't know what we were doing when we didn't even put it on the forums. But you have a dump of the old PMS forums, grats to you. Enjoy them. Would appreciate a copy myself tbfh... ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 22:01:00 - [267] Originally by: Aneu Angellus But you have a dump of the old PMS forums, grats to you. Enjoy them. Would appreciate a copy myself tbfh... send 1 billion isk to me for it. i am doing the releases and i possess a copy of the information you want http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM
Dwight Hammerhead Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.04.25 22:06:00 - [268] Hey, I can make a dump too. Yes, that was it. Its on this topic _____________________________________________ Too bad at photoshop and too poor to buy a sig. Amarr Victor? Unlikely.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.25 22:14:00 - [269] Originally by: mazzilliu Originally by: Aneu Angellus But you have a dump of the old PMS forums, grats to you. Enjoy them. Would appreciate a copy myself tbfh... send 1 billion isk to me for it. i am doing the releases and i possess a copy of the information you want Kugu is cheaper u know, 200m... ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.25 22:59:00 - [270] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: mazzilliu Originally by: Aneu Angellus But you have a dump of the old PMS forums, grats to you. Enjoy them. Would appreciate a copy myself tbfh... send 1 billion isk to me for it. i am doing the releases and i possess a copy of the information you want Kugu is cheaper u know, 200m... he also doesn't have what im not releasing already~ http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1045803 VOTE FOR ME FOR CSM

Drunk N'Disorderly Minmatar BACKUPLEGION	Posted - 2009.04.26 05:33:00 - [271] Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead Hey, I can make a dump too. Yes, that was it. Its on this topic You try to ban your alliance from CAOD posts and then you make a quality one of your own. golfclap Well done dip****.
Merbok Gallente Butterfly Effect Corp. The Lorenz Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.26 05:49:00 - [272] wtf are all of you talking about?? -------- Website
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.04.26 06:24:00 - [273] you don't wanna know
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.26 07:11:00 - [274] Here are a few more selected items to whet your appetites: Originally by: DAB Aneu Angellus Additionally i have been speaking to BoB and have another chat with Molle upcoming. Expect more information on them soon - but i am pushing to ensure we do things timed at roughly the same time meaning PL will have to openly choose between showing goons the finger or leaving their pets to defend themselves, either of which further what we are doing here. How did that chat go? Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna Xing up will not solve the PL equation. Our main fleet vs theirs + their allies and we are outnumbered 3 to 1 - We will not win when their caps are on the field. We need MORE to actually WIN. I am here to WIN, I have had one too many IAC's and SCA style invasions - which this is turning into. What happened to just looking for good fights? Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks. Nothing like a nice morale booster when you need it eh? Vote Mazzilliu for CSM!
Helen Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.26 07:55:00 - [275] Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks. Question why the hell would anyone want to be BoB or LV?
Carin K Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.26 08:10:00 - [276] Originally by: Helen Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks. Question why the hell would anyone want to be BoB or LV? Hey helen, I was talking to you in local a couple of weeks ago right And I wanted to know Are you as chill as everyone says, cos everyone says you are p chill I tried to ask But you left Local . <BR> o/ Vote Mazzilliu for CSM!
TheBaptist Amarr Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.26 08:27:00 - [277] Is this where the pms threadnaught went? Did I do this right?
Razzor Death Gallente Valor Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.26 09:36:00 - [278] Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks. Avi is a top bloke and all that post does is show that hes not a blind idiot, witch is more than can be said for alot of puppet leaders.
Stalina Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad Ev0ke	Posted - 2009.04.26 11:24:00 - [279] Originally by: TheBaptist Is this where the pms threadnaught went? Did I do this right? Yes, you are now a level 2 forumwarrior. Gratz m8. ________________________________________ ________________________________________ http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Queen Ba'Ku Minmatar H A V O C	Posted - 2009.04.26 11:30:00 - [280] Im wonderig how this thread got to 10 pages!

Avicenna Sarfaraz Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.27 04:18:00 - [281] It looks like my posts have made the limelight. Most people who have had the experience of working with me know how I operate know that I will lay my opinion out on the table for you all to see, be it my **** or my opinion - it's mine and I'm sticking to it. The excerpt you are reading is a partial post but I am sure the entire CEO level posts will be made much like RQM's were posted. I'd like to think my posts were made from a informed perspective, the "enemy" posting this more or less confirms my thoughts and the eventual strategic situation is quite apparent from our current position. It looks RQM and PMS have suffered similar problems but I would say it's less to do with the ground level and more with members of the "management" - I am included here as a CEO of one of the corps. Puppet Master's fault was not the talent in our ranks having some truly awesome corps (QUAM,CORP1,GONZO)in our ranks allowed for alot of talent to throw down and this was very apparent especially in the early battles where PMS utterly demolished some of the fleets fielded against us, later on only after the alliance decided "Commit" to attacking fountain did morale degrade leading to what you are reading on the forums. PMS's biggest faults were the lack of organization in the command structure, coordination between ceos and their directors to execute orders from the top effectively - even if some of those orders were half baked and haphazard. When you join an alliance you follow orders till the orders either become clouded or incoherent - you signed up and you "committed" to the cause. In this case - I do deserve some of the blame for my own participation in this operation despite my reservations - but I have made a lot of friends despite what has happened and at the end of the day, that's all you have. A CEO must know his/her obligations to their membership and leave their emotional bull---- at the door when making decisions. Unfortunately for better or worse decisions were made and it looks like your keeping fountain for now. I've had fun and no matter the side of the fence its always good to have great fights and good fun among friends and enemies alike. I'll buy some of you a drink next fan fest. -MVN- The Maverick Navy
Pa1nbringr Gallente The Royal Syndicate Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.04.27 20:49:00 - [282] Should have known better than to let aneu into pms. -
Sixer70 Caldari Stop The Monkeys	Posted - 2009.04.27 20:56:00 - [283] Edited by: Sixer70 on 27/04/2009 20:56:00 aneu peoke hmmmm two names with odd concentration of vowels leading alliances into disarray and causing multitudes of pilots to discover the emotions of hate and disgust. I wonder....
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.27 22:45:00 - [284] Well congrats ? This thread made the news page.... lol.. People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work, as PL and friends have stated many many times before. I think that was your guy's mistake :) Had you read old forum posts about fountain, you woulda known it destroys enemy alliance's. Shoulda picked a dif region to "failure cascade" on.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.04.28 01:00:00 - [285] Originally by: glassmanipulator People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work Have u seen territorial maps since 2003/4? I dont think u have i could make a pretty long list of invasions, failed and successes... but needless to say, it can be done, even with the ever evolving mechanics of the game.
Porgy Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.28 01:24:00 - [286] Originally by: glassmanipulator Well congrats ? This thread made the news page.... lol.. People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work, as PL and friends have stated many many times before. I think that was your guy's mistake :) Had you read old forum posts about fountain, you woulda known it destroys enemy alliance's. Shoulda picked a dif region to "failure cascade" on. Glass, meet my friend Bruce. Bruce, this is glassmanipulator. I think you'll find you two have plenty to talk about. _______________________
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.28 01:36:00 - [287] Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: glassmanipulator People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work Have u seen territorial maps since 2003/4? I dont think u have i could make a pretty long list of invasions, failed and successes... but needless to say, it can be done, even with the ever evolving mechanics of the game. I didn't play in 2003/2004, for years I thought eve was a browser based text game ! (seriously) I said since I started, which was the very end of 06 Hi Porgy. Thx for introducing us
Kryztal Caldari Evolution KenZoku	Posted - 2009.04.28 03:40:00 - [288] oh god, anue is still doing what he does best i see ... like geez ppl 5 years of history should have tought you better :/ - WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU ! -
Tmarte Caldari Slackers Incorporated PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.28 05:35:00 - [289] Originally by: glassmanipulator Well congrats ? This thread made the news page.... lol.. People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work, as PL and friends have stated many many times before. I think that was your guy's mistake :) Had you read old forum posts about fountain, you woulda known it destroys enemy alliance's. Shoulda picked a dif region to "failure cascade" on. No offence, but until SPLoT showed up to reinforce fountain, your alliance were ****ting themselves and your member count was dropping quickly. Arcane had nothing to do with PMS failing to take fountain. IIRC it was your killboard with the <25% efficiency when we showed up, not ours. Our failing was due to trying to bite off way more than we could chew, and our growing way too fast. We put a person into leadership that was in the alliance for 2 weeks, and nobody trusted. If you don't trust the leadership, then your not going to listen or care for their plans. This was made apparent in game by the lack of people in gangs, and by what was posted on the forums. In the end the problem was dealt with and kicked from the alliance. We obviously failed to take any significant space and assets have been pulled from the region. SPLoT can take credit for this. Arcane you didn't do a damned thing but be easy kills for us. It was good fights to the people who deserve the praise, and best of luck to PL/SoT.
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.28 06:12:00 - [290] Do you see me trying to take a bunch of credit ? No. Learn how to read and interpret sentences. I was merely making fun of the decline of your alliance, as you would be doing to us, but way more extreme and immature

Tmarte Caldari Slackers Incorporated PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.28 06:24:00 - [291] Originally by: glassmanipulator Edited by: glassmanipulator on 28/04/2009 06:17:35 Do you see me trying to take a bunch of credit ? No. Learn how to read and interpret sentences. I was merely making fun of the decline of your alliance, as you would be doing to us, but much less extreme and immature Your post and other arcane member post's were clearly implying that your alliance had something to do with it. I'm here to set the record straight and give credit where it needs to be given.
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.28 08:36:00 - [292] Again, back to that reading and interpreting sentences skill. It's ok. I think most of you guys, with the exception of a few, are in highschool still, and don't pay attention in class. No where am I implying anything. I just remember you guys saying many times in local, how one of your primary goals was the destruction of Arcane, this and that... and now, here we are, with a news thread about your guys FAILURE/disbandment. I just think it is; ironic, funny, fun to make fun of, and were gonna laugh about it for weeks to come. Keep posting excuses.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.04.28 12:27:00 - [293] Originally by: glassmanipulator Originally by: MAXSuicide Originally by: glassmanipulator People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work Have u seen territorial maps since 2003/4? I dont think u have i could make a pretty long list of invasions, failed and successes... but needless to say, it can be done, even with the ever evolving mechanics of the game. I didn't play in 2003/2004, for years I thought eve was a browser based text game ! (seriously) I said since I started, which was the very end of 06 Hi Porgy. Thx for introducing us ah i see
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.28 14:00:00 - [294] Originally by: glassmanipulator Edited by: glassmanipulator on 28/04/2009 09:18:59 Again, back to that reading and interpreting sentences skill. It's ok. I think most of you guys, with the exception of a few, are in highschool still, and don't pay attention in class. No where am I implying anything. I just remember you guys saying many times in local, how one of your primary goals was the destruction of Arcane, this and that... and now, here we are, with a news thread about your guys FAILURE/disbandment. I just think it is; ironic, funny, fun to make fun of, and were gonna laugh about it for weeks to come. Oh and I just wanted to add, your guy's seem to be implying much more than I am. Originally by: T'Karr Just noticed some people bashing Arcane (SoT guys aswel?!?!?).... Arcane put up more fights in fountain than PL and SoT combined over the 4 months or so we were fighting there... Well done to Arcane, they obviously needed SoT and PL to help them, but Arcane put up the most fights and were involved in more fights out of all 3. Whatever, really it doesn't matter. Keep posting excuses and such You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet
easei Caldari Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.28 14:50:00 - [295] Originally by: Sixer70 Edited by: Sixer70 on 27/04/2009 20:56:00 names with odd concentration of vowels in alliances causing multitudes of pilots to discover the emotions of hate and disgust. I wonder.... Fixed and confirmed
Machiko Noguchi Caldari THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.28 14:58:00 - [296] 10 pages of blahblahblah. just say gf and logofsky now this dude just made my day Originally by: Mogren Good luck to you and your remaining pen-fifteen adventures.
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.28 15:14:00 - [297] Originally by: Admiral Frools You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet oh noes you got me
Admiral Frools Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.28 15:28:00 - [298] Originally by: glassmanipulator Originally by: Admiral Frools You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet oh noes you got me Let me clarify - if you're going to insult someone by telling them they should've paid more attention in class, then you should not abuse grammar and punctuation in the process. The irony
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.28 15:32:00 - [299] Originally by: Admiral Frools Originally by: glassmanipulator Originally by: Admiral Frools You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet oh noes you got me Let me clarify - if you're going to insult someone by telling them they should've paid more attention in class, then you should not abuse grammar and punctuation in the process. The irony Wow you must troll these forums like a hawk...just posted that like 3 mins ago. Oh and actually, if you wanna get technical, im talking about reading and sentence comprehension, not grammar. So again, oh noes ! So ironic ! omg what ever shall we do.
JeepersCreepers Caldari Endstati0n PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.28 17:07:00 - [300] my point of view: 1. arcane are nothing without SoT 2. SoT gaves us really good fights and i had really fun 3. pos-war in fountain?... and to know "PL sitting with all caps stand-by", .. if u cant bring own caps... is useless 4. our corp has no carebears.. so why we need systems? 5. internal drama is always the end of an alliance in a crisis 6. GF to all peni$$moker in fountain

Yana Pizdah Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.28 19:47:00 - [301] Edited by: Yana Pizdah on 28/04/2009 19:48:05 With all do respect for some arcane members that know someting about pvp (?) /// can that rest of u caod arcane faction trolls/ratters just Alt+F4 ! Much appreciated t(-_-)
Gaius Capua Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.28 20:29:00 - [302] You guys are still posting? Geez you're dead. Give it up.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.28 21:03:00 - [303] Can a mod lock this thread already - Waaaaaay over its expiry date. ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
Kearl Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.28 21:11:00 - [304] Just like you.
Aneu Angellus Caldari DAB	Posted - 2009.04.29 02:16:00 - [305] Originally by: Kearl Just like you. But im only 23 ________________ Dark Angel Battalion Aneu Angellus
Kitano Caldari THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.29 05:15:00 - [306] SHUT UP...
Kyguard Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.04.29 07:02:00 - [307] Originally by: Kitano SHUT UP... GET OFF STATION -
Rn Bonnet Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.29 07:06:00 - [308] Kyguard joined minor threat? Thought you where still haunting syndicate?
Gaius Capua Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.01 00:02:00 - [309] Hey puppets what is the name of your isk for cyber channel? I'm so lonely.
Gaius Capua Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.01 13:40:00 - [310] Originally Posted by NOSA Tomin 9. sex chat channels or alliance hookers i think this is some thing that we should look in to not sure if you can get banned for advratising some thing like this but you could take advantage of lonly gamers with more isk the cash that just want to have a good time. I am still lonely and have lots of isk. Don't make me go back to Jade. :(

Sandwich PvP Caldari The Maverick Navy	Posted - 2009.05.01 14:53:00 - [311] Originally by: Gaius Capua Hey puppets what is the name of your isk for cyber channel? I'm so lonely. Sorry, we don't want to catch swine flu, so we dont invite pandemics to that channel. The only fight worth fighting is the one you should lose.
patteSatan Caldari Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.05.05 07:19:00 - [312] The only one I dont trust in this topic, is Aneu... Yes, Aneu, I killed your income in syndicate once, along with other pilots in Anarchy Empire....when you where in OUR system, tried setting up a POS, and logged out...Crax scanned down your pod (it warped off when your Thanatos died)and my alt pinned you down in the north, and you told sky fox, or someone, that "you were lagged out" and "couldnt hit anything"....strange, I would have died on my alt if the fight had gone on for 3 more seconds, but I guess that is what you tell people when getting pwnd....."AFK in a vagabond" at a gate....(I think I still have the logs showing you hit me with what you had, but..I had friends, and I was too close to you) To PMS: love you guys, sorry that I couldnt fly with you more often, take care wherever you go. <3 C4w3 To Quam: spread the manlove! To SoT, PL and Arcane: was fun, Im no old pvp guy, I just seems to start playing AGAIN at interesting eve-moments.... ...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell. 404 - Sense of humour not found. <===hUssmann VETO. made that
A Sinner Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY	Posted - 2009.05.12 16:26:00 - [313] Hello, I was away for 1 month and a bit because I needed a break and I sensed what we were heading towards and wanted to avoid all that drama. Regarding Aneu, Arimathea and others who felt the need to lead puppets/foe... I really had and have no ideea who they are and I have always ignored them for the simple fact that they popped out of the blue and started giving orders left and right. For me and many others our only leaders were Order, C4 and Malet. I am proud I have taken part of this alliance since I certainly had a lot of fun and I learned many new strategies, pvp wise, when I fought there's not much more to learn, and I'd like to thank our FCs for that: Order, C4, Malet, Orange, Chris, Haker and Dwain. Sure, some of them were annoying at times, making mistakes, but they're only human and most important thing is that they were there. I remember once complaining to C4 about one of them, saying something like : "why do you let that *** FC" and c4 answered "than you just stepped up to be our new fc", and I kept quiet after that. Regarding our opponents I'd like to thank SoT and Arcane for feeding our pvp cravings with good fights that I will definetely not forget for some time. I know there was lots of smack in local, how you call it, especially from our corp and C4, which is one of the things I like most in eve 'cause these jokes in local, which at some point may seem offensive, make me laugh and smile when I am focused and listening to the fc or watching the battlefield, and that reminds me I shouldn't be so serious cause its just a game and I am playing it for fun. We do that all the time irl with our friends too, no reason to get upset. That's about all I had to say , been a good ride, looking forward to see what happens next. Good luck to ex puppets/foe and good luck to the Fountain people, besides EVH who annoyed me a lot for never undocking and always running, for them I'd only like to remind that this is a multiplayer game. pinas
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.12 16:28:00 - [314] Originally by: Yana Pizdah Edited by: Yana Pizdah on 28/04/2009 19:48:05 With all do respect for some arcane members that know someting about pvp (?) /// can that rest of u caod arcane faction trolls/ratters just Alt+F4 ! Much appreciated t(-_-) Why should they turn on their fourth midslot o.0 ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Ackaroth Gallente Digital assassins The Foray Project	Posted - 2009.05.12 19:23:00 - [315] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Yana Pizdah Edited by: Yana Pizdah on 28/04/2009 19:48:05 With all do respect for some arcane members that know someting about pvp (?) /// can that rest of u caod arcane faction trolls/ratters just Alt+F4 ! Much appreciated t(-_-) Why should they turn on their fourth midslot o.0 I lol'd. ~~~ Unofficial Member of the "Spies in refrigerators" fan club.
Phlewid Thoughts Gallente Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil	Posted - 2009.05.15 16:33:00 - [316] <3 PMS & FOE, C4, Order, Sky, Malet and many others, I had a blast flying with you all. miss u heaps. yarr TY SoT, PL and Arcane for lots of fun, SoT you always brought the fight no matter how many times you were killed. props. cheers
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 19:14:00 - [317] Originally by: Aneu Angellus Can a mod lock this thread already - Waaaaaay over its expiry date. What happened with DAB and the many many corps you convinced to form your own PVP alliance ?
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:09:00 - [318] Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Aneu Angellus Can a mod lock this thread already - Waaaaaay over its expiry date. What happened with DAB and the many many corps you convinced to form your own PVP alliance ? INZi > aneu app'd to tri Vote Mazzilliu for CSM!
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:23:00 - [319] Originally by: Vladic Ka Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Aneu Angellus Can a mod lock this thread already - Waaaaaay over its expiry date. What happened with DAB and the many many corps you convinced to form your own PVP alliance ? INZi > aneu app'd to tri You mean he's not wanted ?
Genuinely Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.15 21:39:00 - [320] Hey Aneu if it's any consolation I've been rejected by both Atlas and Iron When's the new alliance starting up?

Captian Duffy Gallente Darke Aurora Externus Hostis	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:09:00 - [321] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Hey Aneu if it's any consolation I've been rejected by both Atlas and Iron When's the new alliance starting up? even the guys in Caldari Provisions are making fun out of his leadership skills :S why would u want to join his new failliance?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:33:00 - [322] Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Hey Aneu if it's any consolation I've been rejected by both Atlas and Iron When's the new alliance starting up? Windy, we both know you only joined Chaka Khan so you can post on CAOD. Even Atlas/IRON didn't want a flatulent poster, but UK need all help they can get Hi, my name is Flinx, and I am a recovering nano***
Teschan Amarr Quam Singulari Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.16 04:07:00 - [323] this thread has lasted longer than the alliance did
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 06:00:00 - [324] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 15/05/2009 23:37:37 Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Hey Aneu if it's any consolation I've been rejected by both Atlas and Iron When's the new alliance starting up? Windy, we both know you only joined Chaka Khan so you can post on CAOD. Even Atlas/IRON didn't want a flatulent poster, but UK need all help they can get Crap, i got an alt in CP ... better get him out fast before it starts failing.
Cartiff Gallente Euphoria Released	Posted - 2009.05.16 10:44:00 - [325] Hehe, aneu... what a mug.
MAXSuicide Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2009.05.16 12:58:00 - [326] probably a smart move for aneu, tri disband so much he cant possibly get the blame this time. ♥
Vladic Ka Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.17 18:05:00 - [327] Edited by: Vladic Ka on 17/05/2009 18:05:36 REJECTED! [16:50:51] INZi > Aneu Angellus > but im not asking to join CORA :\<br> [16:50:54] INZi > u wont be let into TRI<br> [16:51:00] INZi > Bope rejected u, they have lowest standards Vote Mazzilliu for CSM!
Shaemell Buttleson Minmatar Euphoria Released	Posted - 2009.05.17 22:44:00 - [328] I think most ppl would choose a dose of clap rather than have him in their corp!


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