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Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.04.23 13:53:00 - [91] Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 22/04/2009 07:28:30 Spaceship command: 47 skills, 42,241,243 skillpoints. And i don't really feel that any single SP has been wasted. Except maybe those 2 freighter level 5's. But nothing else! >_> Stop training FOTM and start training something you like. Training FOTM in an environment like EVE is complete idiocy. you say stop training FOTM you seriously telling me you trained up all your SC skills because you liked them and not because they were FOTM? Some of us like to try out many things, and variety. Doesn't make us FOTM players. 21M sp in spaceship command. I fly mainly amarr ships since years, used them when they were the worst. I use tracking disruptors as EW, because I despise the overpowerdness of ECM. Never used a gankageddon, or cavalry raven, or nano-vaggabond. I'm better than that. Reiisha: Mining forman V, Marauders V, you carebear. You should train Drone Interfacing V, this lapse is shocking in a 80+M SP combat char. ------------------------------------------
Amitious Turkey Gallente Ammo Tech Inc	Posted - 2009.04.23 15:00:00 - [92] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 21/04/2009 20:40:02 im 18 @ 10 but im not a cap pilot heard you get a lot os SP from flying cap ships =) Advanced space ship command - 4 amarr BS - 4 amarr cruiser - 5 amarr frig - 4 assult ship - 4 BC - 5 command ship - 4 cov op - 4 destroyer - 2 EAS - 3 gallente BS - 4 gallente cruiser - 5 gallente frig - 5 gallente industrial - 5 HAC - 4 logistic - 4 recon - 4 space ship command - 5 Amarr Battleship level 5 Amarr Cruiser level 5 Amarr Frigate level 5 Amarr Industrial level 1 Amarr Strategic Cruiser level 2 Assault Ships level 4 Battlecruisers level 5 Caldari Battleship level 5 Caldari Cruiser level 5 Caldari Frigate level 5 Caldari Strategic Cruiser level 2 Command Ships level 4 Covert Ops level 4 training to level 5 Destroyers level 5 Electronic Attack Ships level 4 Gallente Battleship level 5 Gallente Cruiser level 5 Gallente Frigate level 5 Gallente Industrial level 3 Gallente Strategic Cruiser level 2 Heavy Assault Ships level 4 Heavy Interdictors level 4 Interceptors level 4 Interdictors level 4 Logistics level 4 Mining Barge level 4 Minmatar Battleship level 5 Minmatar Cruiser level 5 Minmatar Frigate level 5 Minmatar Industrial level 5 Minmatar Strategic Cruiser level 1 Recon Ships level 4 Spaceship Command level 5 Transport Ships level 4 nerf proof? yes I am. I was gonna post my skills, but now I'm ashamed... (\_/) (O.o) (> <) The writer of the article did not quote himself- Cortes
Myra2007 Shafrak Industries	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:11:00 - [93] What i gathered from reading this thread: That Grimpak guy has all battleship skills on 5. Yet, he can not use any T2 large guns. I mean whatever floats your boat but that sure looks like wasted sp, no? -- Originally by: Jasper Dark I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:41:00 - [94] If you've been playing EVE for any significant amount of time, you should realise: Anything, and everything will eventually change. EVE's mantra is adapt or die. If you can not adapt to a change, then you will lose. If you can adapt to a change, then you will win. Sometimes CCP gives an advantage to a certain class of players, and sometimes they will take away an advantage held by another class of players. Things are always changing, sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse. This is what makes EVE what it is - it is always changing, evolving.
D'Artagnan Bladerunners KIA Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.23 18:01:00 - [95] I can only fly Minmatar ships so I have been nerfed since 2003 so quit your bloody moaning about a ship that is still very good.
Hipsu Rosvosektori The Polaris Syndicate	Posted - 2009.04.23 18:12:00 - [96] 24mil in SC minmatar & gallente specced.... so train other races?
Aceru Gallente Apellon	Posted - 2009.04.23 18:27:00 - [97] I got tired of reading the first page in. Would you like some cheese with your wine? Originally by: Vall Kor If you're in a fair fight, you didn't plan it properly.
BlackMail Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.23 18:59:00 - [98] 42 Spaceship Command skills trained, for a total of 28,294,580 skillpoints. Im good to go --------------------------------------- Blackmail Cutting Edge Incorporated All Around Good Guy
Wired Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.04.23 19:35:00 - [99] Nerfbat swings Wired laughs it off Ok, there's a couple of holes, but I'm working on them. ============================================= My sig got edited, and all i got was a lousy e-mail
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2009.04.23 19:39:00 - [100] It is sort of funny, but I started out as amarr when amarr was still considered to be a bit gimpy, however I stuck with it because I simply enjoy the ships. Now that amarr is 'awesome' it is a little more fun flying the ships, but when we get our turn in the nerf machine again, I will just keep flying the ships. I guess maybe there is something flawed in my attitude for not being obsessed with flying whatever the win button at the moment is, but I find it is much easier to just go with the flow and be bad when your ships are bad and be good when they are good... <-------------------------------------------------> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein

Ashley Sky The Scope	Posted - 2009.04.23 19:59:00 - [101] I think it's funny that none of you can remember that Amarr used to be awesome. The only ship that could fit 8 Miner IIs with drones. It was the ultimate miner. There's a video of an Apoc sieging a highsec trade hub (the former Yulai) by the Zombies corp with epic concord fail. No ammo required. Everyone wanted to be Amarr. That's why they were nerfed so hard for so long. Now they're making a comeback. Oh also, if you have 20 mil SP in spaceship command, you better have at least 20m in gunnery and missiles, or you suck at whatever you fly. Congrats on being able to fly anything, badly.
DeadRow Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2009.04.23 20:07:00 - [102] 24 skills @ 21,216,629 sp No captials though I lust after a carrier Pretty much nerf proof too \o/ Norrin Ellis > What?! Boobs aren't inappropriate! They feed children! For God's sake, think of the children!
Traidor Disloyal Minmatar Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.04.23 20:16:00 - [103] Originally by: Ashley Sky Oh also, if you have 20 mil SP in spaceship command, you better have at least 20m in gunnery and missiles, or you suck at whatever you fly. Congrats on being able to fly anything, badly. It's nice to have 20 mil SP in Spaceship Command and another 20 mil SP in Gunnery/Missiles but if you all don't place some points into those forgotten and non-sexy secondary skills you might has well be a cube of butter in a microwave set on high. Heck I have high SP in the Ships/weapons/secondary stuff that I like to fly and I still fly em badly. Just cause you got the SP don't mean you can find your ass with both hands with the lights on. You know what I mean Vern? ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it.
BhallSpawn	Posted - 2009.04.24 08:07:00 - [104] For once I'd like to see a company buff things to balance the game. Instead of picking out certain things that are thought to be strong, when in fact its just certain things are weak to it. This would take some logic and proper programming. But finding that in CCP is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Mikal Drey Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.24 08:16:00 - [105] hey hey your all doing it wrong :/ http://ineve.net/skills/ships_can_fly.php?charID=MTc4MjUwMzk2OQ%3D%3D Shattered Crystal - 60 day GTC
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.24 08:18:00 - [106] Originally by: BhallSpawn For once I'd like to see a company buff things to balance the game. Instead of picking out certain things that are thought to be strong, when in fact its just certain things are weak to it. This would take some logic and proper programming. But finding that in CCP is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Er, you mean like the Stealthbombers? Or the Rook? Or when the Apoc got a 25% cap boost? Or when Caldari ships finally got their agility stats fixed? Or when Carriers got their hitpoints massively increased? People take the buffs they get for granted within 48 hours, but they whine about the nerfs forever.
Gorefacer Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.04.24 10:01:00 - [107] Originally by: Ashley Sky Originally by: Flamewave 15,244,819. If I don't like it, I just fly something else. Imagine if you could put all the crap ship SP into something that's currently useful. Imagine if they gave you 100m SP right off the bat! "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Cipher7	Posted - 2009.04.24 10:20:00 - [108] This thread makes me feel better. I thought I was the only gimp with millions in spaceship command. I don't follow FOTM really, just can't decide what I really really REALLY want to specialize in.
Grimpak Gallente Clubs and Diamonds	Posted - 2009.04.24 10:56:00 - [109] Originally by: Myra2007 What i gathered from reading this thread: That Grimpak guy has all battleship skills on 5. Yet, he can not use any T2 large guns. I mean whatever floats your boat but that sure looks like wasted sp, no? well, let's just say that I've trained BS 5 when I needed to take a small break from EVE. I also don't use BS'es in pvp, but mostly in PvE, and even so I'm using a NH to run missions atm, so I never felt the need to train them T2 L guns. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Wacktopia Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.04.24 11:42:00 - [110] Originally by: Ashley Sky Originally by: Flamewave 15,244,819. If I don't like it, I just fly something else. Imagine if you could put all the crap ship SP into something that's currently useful. Then the game would be more wooly and less fun. I think you are expecting the game to somehow reward you for spending years training skill points to an elite level where you can sit back and relax, happy that you are a "level 70". EVE =/= WOW

Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.24 13:59:00 - [111] Originally by: Ashley Sky CCP, after every patch you nerf something into oblivion that I have invested a fair amount of skill points into training. What do you suggest I do with all those useless skill points? I propose you let us re-order skill points after you ruin our profession in every patch, so that we can put our SP to better use. Your logic is that if you created a junk character you can correct the attributes, but what if you created a junk character because you trained up falcons? I have 11,330,140 sp in spaceship command and can fly amarr and gallente hac's/recons gallente capital ships, and a fine slew of other ships. WTF are you doing wrong with your training that makes you a failure dispite more skill training?
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2009.04.24 15:13:00 - [112] how do you "nerf proof" guys do it... im at 56mil and i only have projectiles as t2. no im not a miner, never have been. nor am i a capital pilot. maybe substract 9mil for leadership skills but thats it... - putting the gist back into logistics
Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.24 15:25:00 - [113] Originally by: Roemy Schneider how do you "nerf proof" guys do it... im at 56mil and i only have projectiles as t2. no im not a miner, never have been. nor am i a capital pilot. maybe substract 9mil for leadership skills but thats it... cross training to another races t2 cruiser class is really quick if you pick the right ones. If you are minmatar specced even easier as you probably have shield and armor tanking trained. so it's just T1 cruiser 5 and medium t2 guns and you are done.
Reiisha Evolution KenZoku	Posted - 2009.05.10 04:35:00 - [114] Originally by: Hanns Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 22/04/2009 07:28:30 Spaceship command: 47 skills, 42,241,243 skillpoints. And i don't really feel that any single SP has been wasted. Except maybe those 2 freighter level 5's. But nothing else! >_> Stop training FOTM and start training something you like. Training FOTM in an environment like EVE is complete idiocy. you say stop training FOTM you seriously telling me you trained up all your SC skills because you liked them and not because they were FOTM? Basically, yes. I want to be able to fly every single ship in EVE. And before Nonamium and Tozz came along the top spot in Spaceship Command on InEVE was nice to have ^^ Also, a nice medium-rare thread resurrection feels nice once in a while. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Bullageddon Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.10 04:38:00 - [115] n-n-n-n-n-n-n-necro-oh-oh-oh-oh === This Space For Lease or Sale.
Jint Hikaru Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2009.05.10 08:02:00 - [116] Eve is a game of choice and consiquence, in a dynamic changing universe. You choose to pirate, you loose access to empire space without grinding up your sec status. You choose to be a miner, you have to invest skill points in industrial skills which means you arn't skilling in offensive/defensive skills. You choose to scam, you have to continue to play with a reputation. To the OP.... YOU chose to train your skills for a Falcon (i presume this is what you are crying about). I am guessing it is because you were told that the Falcon was the "best and most uber ship ever omgzors!!!"..... ....now you dont want to suffer the consiquences of you actions! Cry me a river. Respecs of skill points will ruin the game. ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.05.10 08:08:00 - [117] Spaceship command 24 skills 19,509,793 points, not a capital in sight. 100% whine-free for 6 years. -----------------------------------------------
Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2009.05.10 10:47:00 - [118] Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Originally by: Ashley Sky Originally by: Flamewave 15,244,819. If I don't like it, I just fly something else. Imagine if you could put all the crap ship SP into something that's currently useful. Imagine Amarr online We don't really have to. -- Eventus stultorum magister.
Ringo Jeicha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.05.10 12:19:00 - [119] Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Originally by: Ashley Sky Originally by: Flamewave 15,244,819. If I don't like it, I just fly something else. Imagine if you could put all the crap ship SP into something that's currently useful. Imagine Amarr online YES i predicted it! Eve went from gallente online to caldari online to minmatar online (nano) to amarr online. Do you realize amarr sucked at one point? --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss
Haks'he Lirky Burning Bright Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.10 12:23:00 - [120] Edited by: Haks''he Lirky on 10/05/2009 12:24:59 18,521,788 in spaceship command, I have never chased the FOTM and I would not trade out a single skill point from this category. I can essentially jump into any kind of ship (bar a capital) and be competitive in it. If you constantly follow the FOTM and then cry about it you are either stupid or a masochist.



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