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Raging YarrX
Black Fury
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:31:00 -
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Ispia Jaydrath wrote:Lady Lupiah wrote:CCP wants PLEX to be used on clothing, because you are right, PLEX is essentially morgaging future income. If PLEX builds up in the game, and it seems to be piling up on the market, then at some point CCP may have to run the game with no actual US$ income unless they can keep pulling in new players who buy PLEX for real money. Hi, it's come to my attention that you have no idea what you're talking about. Plex can only be created through the expenditure of real money. Every plex on the market is cash in the bank for CCP.
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Arduemont
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
92
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:32:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote: Stuff that makes alot of sence
^^ This.
Also, I do have some changes to help your cause. First, suiciding gankers recieve higher sec status hits, and when they're sec status is low enough that they can be shot at in highsec (or during their GCC) their pod should be destroyable by other players without penalty. Simple solution.
Aso for people can flipping. Just make the pop-up that comes up telling you that they will be able to shoot at you if you take stuff from that can clearer. |
DireNecessity
The M.P.I. Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:59:00 -
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Lady Lupiah wrote:DireNecessity wrote:[Caveat GÇô PLEX can also be redeemed for Aurum but whenGÇÖs the last time you visited the Nex Store?
Dear Idiot. The Nex store is for Carebears.
Why Lady Lupiah,
I am shocked, SHOCKED! by your impolite turn of tone. Here I thought you were a laudable (though highly confused) Whine Tanker pleading your case for miner buffs / ganker debuffs but it turns out you're little but a troll setting me up for some forum griefing. That GÇ£IdiotGÇ¥ crack stung.
Well played Lady Lupia, I am wounded. Deeply deeply wounded.
But perhaps IGÇÖm mistaken. Perhaps your lapse into ad hominem attack was merely a frustrated moment of dismay that your brilliant argumentation wasnGÇÖt convincing everyone.
IGÇÖll give you the benefit of doubt GÇô IGÇÖm generous that way. Show us that more, better CareBearing is/can be/must be of much greater financial concern to CCPGÇÖs EvE. Now, to be effective you need to really show it. DonGÇÖt just make the claim, rather, present some genuine (non anecdotal) evidence that CCPs 9 years of selling EvE as a dark and dangerous place is a terrible business model destined for failure. Present genuine evidence that EvEGÇÖs 9 years of continual growth canGÇÖt continue unless CCP CareBears up the place. Prove, with evidence, that the Nex Store is EvE's financial future. Lacking such argumentation, CCP will probably let the current situation stand leaving players to either fight back in game or remain prey.
With compassion, DireNecessty |
Lady Lupiah
State War Academy Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:10:00 -
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Corian Teranos wrote:I...
However my idea to combat hulkageddon would be simply 1.NO CONCORD PROTECTION TO PLAYERS WITH NEGATIVE SECURITY STATUS PERIOD. 2.NO SECURITY LOSS FOR KILLING A PLAYER WITH NEGATIVE SECURITY STATUS 3.SUICIDE GANKING REMOVES PLAYERS CONCORD PROTECTION FOR 24 HOURS ... If ccp doesn't protect the miners properly than they should not protect gankers in high sec.
LET US KILL THEM FAIR AND SQUARE.
Abso-f***ing-lutely.
I can't beleive that players with huge bounties get to be protected by CONCORD still. Add in bounty payable on killing the pod ith someone with a bounty in it.
Lot more people who have been up to mischief would be dying ... which is good. |
Lady Lupiah
State War Academy Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:18:00 -
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DireNecessity wrote:blah blah blah
... present some genuine (not merely anecdotal) evidence that CCPs 9 years of selling EvE as a dark and dangerous place is a terrible business model destined for failure. ...
Did you actually read the part where much of my concern is what happens after Darkness releases?
A view is not invalid becuse it relates to future events, and demanding data precludes thinking about the future, as the data will not come into being until 2013/2014. Point is, now is the time to think about things - because come 2014, if Darkness has 2 million players and EVE has 250,000, guess where CCP is going to put their best people. CCP is running a business, and we know they have been under pressure due to the recession, like everyone else.
New players matter. Subscribers who pay with cash matter. New sbscribers who pay with cash and buy PLEX to do things matter even more. Griefer alts of people who pay by PLEX ... not so much.
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Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:05:00 -
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Lady Lupiah wrote:A view is not invalid becuse it relates to future events, and demanding data precludes thinking about the future, as the data will not come into being until 2013/2014. Point is, now is the time to think about things - because come 2014, if Darkness has 2 million players and EVE has 250,000, guess where CCP is going to put their best people. CCP is running a business, and we know they have been under pressure due to the recession, like everyone else.
It's just a fact that there isn't enough talent in the game industry to put together two good teams. I'm sure the three that CCP has going are very interested to hear which two you think are ****.
Also, valve called. Their feelings are hurt.
Lady Lupiah wrote:New players matter. Subscribers who pay with cash matter. New sbscribers who pay with cash and buy PLEX to do things matter even more. Griefer alts of people who pay by PLEX ... not so much.
You are the dumbest person I've ever met.
Nobody can become as far gone as you are without being willfully, purposefully ignorant, so I know better than to hope; but if you ever get the urge to stop being so wrong in two sentences or less you should consider starting here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_supply |
DireNecessity
The M.P.I. Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2012.05.12 13:10:00 -
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Lady Lupiah wrote:DireNecessity wrote:blah blah blah
... present some genuine (not merely anecdotal) evidence that CCPs 9 years of selling EvE as a dark and dangerous place is a terrible business model destined for failure. ... Did you actually read the part where much of my concern is what happens after Darkness releases? A view is not invalid becuse it relates to future events, and demanding data precludes thinking about the future, as the data will not come into being until 2013/2014. Point is, now is the time to think about things - because come 2014, if Darkness has 2 million players and EVE has 250,000, guess where CCP is going to put their best people. CCP is running a business, and we know they have been under pressure due to the recession, like everyone else.
Lady Lupiah,
First of all, my complements for nudging ever so slightly from telling CCP GÇ£now is the time to code changesGÇ¥ to GÇ£now is the time to think about things.GÇ¥ If I read you correctly, it appears your sentiment has shifted from: game is broken and will surely die (probably next Tuesday) to: I see problems on the horizon when WoD is released.
I disagree with your speculative conclusions however.
1) GÇ£if Darkness has 2 million players and EVE has 250,000, guess where CCP is going to put their best people.GÇ¥ ThatGÇÖs a *mighty* big GÇ£ifGÇ¥ Darling. Last I heard WoD was seriously backburnered in CCPs recent layoffs. Perhaps itGÇÖs destined for a 2014 release but IGÇÖm not so sure. That being the case, alarm that itGÇÖs going to crush EvE hold little water with me.
2) As a business model, your push that EvE should be made more like the promised WoD beginning now is a little puzzling. If EvE were to become WoD in space, there seems little reason to pursue WoD at all since theyGÇÖd be much the same game, only skinned differently. If anything, I suspect CCP would want the games to be very different to broaden their customer base rather than very similar and competing over the same clientele.
3) Sweetie, the difficulty you face is that youGÇÖre arguing that CCP should abandon their current business model for EvE as a dark and dangerous place where loss happens and it hurts. A business model with a successful 9 year run. CCPGÇÖs attempt to WoD up the EvE universe (Incarna) absolutely crashed and burned.
4) I compliment you on setting big, big goals. Getting CCP to return to a WoD in space Incarna direction is a tough, tough sell. Good luck with that Kiddo.
All the best, DireNecessity |
Grace Ishukone
Ishukone Advanced Research
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:12:00 -
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Dire you seem to think that everything is peachy in EVE.
How is it that in the Highsec Ice belt I was in just before, a single catalyst with a T2 fit and T2 ammo managed to (a) kill and exhumer, (b) pod the pilot of the exhumer, and (c) take away the podded pilots frozen corpse, all with Concord mumbling sweet nothings at them?
Broken is broken, stop making excuses for bad game design. EVE has been underperforming for years as a commercial game, and owes its survival mostly to imitation games being complete crap. You are so strenuously attacking the OP that the simple inference to take is that you are worried what she has said is actually correct.
Time will tell, but at the moment the odds are firmly stacked in favour of the gankers. Another poster correctly called it: the real problem is Concord rules are screwed up: they should web and scramble pods of gankers, not just kill their ships. That would make things more interesting. |
Darkquest
Phoenix Trade Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:29:00 -
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Wow, this seems slightly silly. One person is bitching about giving Hulks better tank, and better "LAWLZ ORE Capacity." Is that wrong to say that? Because it seems like one person is trying to hurt the bottom line by making everyone leave, though I came back or was still around since I had an account active til' August 10th, 2012. But decided to actually pay resubscribe just because of Inferno's Changes.
Freaking Missiles! I so longed for freaking Missile Turrets in this game ever since I started playing Two years ago on July 7th, 2010; though it's not yet 2 years yet for me though. I was like "Where is the Missile Turrets?!" And I slightly got used to not having missile turrets and horrible designed turrets though I went into Missiles just because one day their will be "Missile Turrets" though I can't believe I had to wait til Inferno to get that.
I enjoyed the Gun Turrets actually having nice animations; but I wasn't really into Gun Turrets.. >.>
A full T2 Out Hulk can hold 18,727 Cargo Space that's 6 Loads worth of Ice or 18,727 Veldspar.
When I started out I kinda rushed for the Exhumers, kinda wish I didn't or waited awhile but I glad I did slightly, a crazy freaking person who actually mined Ore in a Industrial Ship just for Lulz, and it took me FOREVER to mine in that; a Badger Mark I as well. Though I am grateful I actually got to the Hulk, Exhumer its much faster to mine though.
I've enjoyed my experiences so far in Eve Online I tried a little bit of Wormholes, a lot of Mining and Mission Running, Wormholes are risky, though I am slightly crazy and paranoid a lot. That probably helps myself out in keeping myself safe at least.
@OP: You are crazy.. and I am too though you have to be Crazy to play Eve Online, it is the Prettiest Spreadsheet game ever. Though that means you need to buck up, and grow a pair and stop whining about not being able to do things or you can stop picking on Newbies yourself. LOL |
DireNecessity
The M.P.I. Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2012.05.12 17:07:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote:Dire you seem to think that everything is peachy in EVE.
How is it that in the Highsec Ice belt I was in just before, a single catalyst with a T2 fit and T2 ammo managed to (a) kill and exhumer, (b) pod the pilot of the exhumer, and (c) take away the podded pilots frozen corpse, all with Concord mumbling sweet nothings at them?
Broken is broken, stop making excuses for bad game design. EVE has been underperforming for years as a commercial game, and owes its survival mostly to imitation games being complete crap. You are so strenuously attacking the OP that the simple inference to take is that you are worried what she has said is actually correct.
Time will tell, but at the moment the odds are firmly stacked in favour of the gankers. Another poster correctly called it: the real problem is Concord rules are screwed up: they should web and scramble pods of gankers, not just kill their ships. That would make things more interesting.
Grace,
I fear getting drawn into a tit for tat argument where the only purpose is to have the final word. IGÇÖve also reached the end of my basic argument: EvE is working as intended. I like our brutal universe where innocence isnGÇÖt automatic protection and villainy isnGÇÖt automatically impossible. Long term players generally understand this as GÇ£getting EvE.GÇ¥ Youngish players are often shocked to discover it. Perhaps these youngish players were expecting the appearance of a dark and dangerous universe, not an actual dark and dangerous universe.
Re: Ice belt murder Lacking specifics, I canGÇÖt comment insightfully. Perhaps the ganker and ice miner were at war? Did the ganker filch the corpse or did the gankerGÇÖs spotter do it? (Suicide gankers arenGÇÖt necessarily working alone.) Are you sure Concord delivered no retribution? (Perhaps retribution was delivered off grid when the ganker dropped out of warp.)
Re: GÇ£Broken is broken . . .GÇ¥ I must done my mocking cloak: GÇ£Dear CCP, you only produce the best game in your market niche. Your imitators produce comparative crap. I am most displeased. You should be producing GodGÇÖs own MMOG. Shame on you for not doing so.GÇ¥
Re: GÇ£simple inference . . .GÇ¥ I retain my mocking cloak: Simple Indeed GÇô Simple Minded
Re: GÇ£Concord . . . should web and scramble pods of gankers . . .GÇ¥ You presume this would disturb the Suicide Ganker. The most annoying thing about it I see would be if some kindly White Knight didnGÇÖt come along to release said ganker from their on grid scrambled detention. GÇ£No problem,GÇ¥ says the spotter, GÇ£IGÇÖll pod the ganker and endear myself to the locals as their on grid White Knight.GÇ¥
Re: GÇ£everything is peachy in EVEGÇ¥ Absolutely peachy? No. But definitely apricot and very close to nectarine. Promised changes in the Crimewatch mechanics may have tremendous affects on Suicide Ganking. Criminals will adapt. CareBears will whine anew. It's a beautiful thing.
I leave the final word victory to others, DireNecessity |
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Raging YarrX
Black Fury
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Posted - 2012.05.12 19:41:00 -
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CCP suffered with Incarna, another Incarna won't happen. Lesson learnt from trying to turn the game into Carebear INC. |
Grace Ishukone
Ishukone Advanced Research
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Posted - 2012.05.14 03:06:00 -
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Raging YarrX wrote:CCP suffered with Incarna, another Incarna won't happen. Lesson learnt from trying to turn the game into Carebear INC.
Your faith in game dev's ability to learn from past blunders is so cute. So too the blind optimism of some in the thread that CCPS is happy that EVE keeps failing to meet its potential, despite their attempts to increase its appeal to pave players who are not in love with spreadsheets.
Accountants in space, how the accountants adore thee. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
575
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Posted - 2012.05.14 16:38:00 -
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Grace Ishukone wrote:Raging YarrX wrote:CCP suffered with Incarna, another Incarna won't happen. Lesson learnt from trying to turn the game into Carebear INC. Your faith in game dev's ability to learn from past blunders is so cute. So too the blind optimism of some in the thread that CCPS is happy that EVE keeps failing to meet its potential, despite their attempts to increase its appeal to pave players who are not in love with spreadsheets. Accountants in space, how the accountants adore thee.
Aw cute....a cowardly alt who wont post with main.
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
394
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Posted - 2012.05.14 18:32:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:
Aw cute....a cowardly alt who wont post with main.
Get over yourself.
Aw, cute...a spineless, one-line meme-regurgitator who can't contribute anything to the discussion.
Play at the kiddies table until you learn how to comport yourself, sonny.
OP: I'm sorry, but I just can't agree with you. You're asking to take away some of the most basic things that make EVE great. I can understand your reasoning and the thoughts behind it, but it's just not personally to my taste. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
576
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Posted - 2012.05.14 20:19:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Drake Draconis wrote:
Aw cute....a cowardly alt who wont post with main.
Get over yourself.
Aw, cute...a spineless, one-line meme-regurgitator who can't contribute anything to the discussion. Play at the kiddies table until you learn how to comport yourself, sonny. OP: I'm sorry, but I just can't agree with you. You're asking to take away some of the most basic things that make EVE great. I can understand your reasoning and the thoughts behind it, but it's just not personally to my taste.
UMadbro?
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.05.15 11:01:00 -
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People that hate sandbox games, shouldn't play sandbox games. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
191
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:14:00 -
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Quote:That's the point, dumb ass. Removing suicide ganking in highsec *is* what is next. Bahahahahahaha oh wow. You're a ******* idiot. Then again as an utterly ignorant newbie, I wouldn't expect you to understand the complexities of what an utter disaster such a move would be for the game economy.
But hey, on the other hand, sure! Remove all suicide ganking against mining ships. (And move all asteroids to lowsec)
Now please allow me to direct you somewhere that will better fit your gaming needs. |
Aron Croup
Incompatible Protocol Bittervet Mercenaries
96
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Posted - 2012.05.15 15:12:00 -
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I agree that mining is one of the most important venues of income for new players, and that griefing miners in general poses a problem for the introduction of new players to the game.
That said, new players rarely fly hulks. If you find a new player in a hulk, it's usually the alt of an older player. If a new player spends a PLEX getting into a hulk ASAP then he is making a mistake. You shouldn't get into a ship until you have the proper skills and experience to fly it well.
At the core of all this is the dreadful mining mechanic in EVE. It's been dull since 2003, and it mostly attracts players who play EVE in the background while doing something else, which is why it's so easy to gank them.
Fix the dull mining mechanic, make it interesting, fun and involved, and the amount of high-sec miner ganks will drop very fast. Hell, if it's cool enough you might even see some bored PVP'ers try their hand at it.
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Fred Lodenstane
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:12:00 -
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Why not instead of asking for new forms of protection from CCP you instead use the tools already in the game to protect your mining ops. Get some logistics ships repping your mining ship and they'll suddenly be harder to suicide gank. In fact people won't even try to gank you if you have enough logi support (as there are much easier targets in another system somewhere). Stop crying and learn how to solve your own problems. It's not that hard. |
Aron Croup
Incompatible Protocol Bittervet Mercenaries
96
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Posted - 2012.05.15 16:26:00 -
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Fred Lodenstane wrote:Why not instead of asking for new forms of protection from CCP you instead use the tools already in the game to protect your mining ops. Get some logistics ships repping your mining ship and they'll suddenly be harder to suicide gank. In fact people won't even try to gank you if you have enough logi support (as there are much easier targets in another system somewhere). Stop crying and learn how to solve your own problems. It's not that hard.
There are a lot of people who play the game in NPC corporations or small mining corporations. They might not have pilots who can fly logistics ships, and even if they do, it doesn't help much against alpha-damage suicide ganks.
As those of you who don't know or understand the concept, alpha damage means you destroy the hulk with the first volley of shots, meaning there will be no time to engage rep cycles.
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Zer'Adul
Kore Labs HHC
1
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Posted - 2012.05.15 19:52:00 -
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Ok, here's an option to protect the new players:
Supershield v1 Expands defenses of trial qualified ships to be more in line with the defenses enjoyed by capitals. Very short term use, only available to accounts under 2 weeks in age. Can't be traded, nor can it be used on another account. In other words, it's a complete account lock. It would work down to 0.4 sec status, but doesn't work any deeper then that. This would give the new pilot a chance to get back to 0.5+ space without the sudden and violent end of their ship due to a very simple to make mistake. Do feel free to shoot, they will take damage. Just don't expect to kill it.
This shield would burn out by the end of a normal trial period and would start warning the pilot that it's about to expire and that they will become vulnerable to normal attack mechanics within 72 hours.
This would protect the new players looking to get a taste of what Eve is about, but would also leave them vulnerable to a well executed trap to catch them.
This would effectively end the grief aimed towards the new players, while letting them get used to how the actual mechanics work.
Call it the New Player Protection Act. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
589
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Posted - 2012.05.15 21:07:00 -
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Zer'Adul wrote:Ok, here's an option to protect the new players:
Supershield v1 Expands defenses of trial qualified ships to be more in line with the defenses enjoyed by capitals. Very short term use, only available to accounts under 2 weeks in age. Can't be traded, nor can it be used on another account. In other words, it's a complete account lock. It would work down to 0.4 sec status, but doesn't work any deeper then that. This would give the new pilot a chance to get back to 0.5+ space without the sudden and violent end of their ship due to a very simple to make mistake. Do feel free to shoot, they will take damage. Just don't expect to kill it.
This shield would burn out by the end of a normal trial period and would start warning the pilot that it's about to expire and that they will become vulnerable to normal attack mechanics within 72 hours.
This would protect the new players looking to get a taste of what Eve is about, but would also leave them vulnerable to a well executed trap to catch them.
This would effectively end the grief aimed towards the new players, while letting them get used to how the actual mechanics work.
Call it the New Player Protection Act.
Hell No....EVE's biggest thing is how quickly it seperates the kiddies from the men. (This has nothing to do with being a PVP'er...its how you deal with EVE's nastier sides.)
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Gallion
Outer Sector IDENTITY UNKN0WN
540
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Posted - 2012.05.15 22:14:00 -
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-suicide ganking is part of the game except when it become harrasment. -new players get to learn from these Experiances at an early stage is very much a good and for them probly a bad thing -people that take Serious Spaceship Bizniz to a new low should be shot by Concord asap -and Im in agreement for Insurance changes see another post topic in Assembly hall, As Its officially not to of any one use.
This is a Signature, It makes people Stare. (Man I gotta Make one , or Find one to steal) |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
192
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Posted - 2012.05.15 22:34:00 -
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Quote:Call it the New Player Protection Act. For some people, ragequitting is just an inevitability. Doesn't matter if it comes after 2 days or 2 weeks, some people just can't stomach EVE. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
589
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Posted - 2012.05.15 23:15:00 -
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Gallion wrote:-suicide ganking is part of the game except when it become harrasment. -new players get to learn from these Experiances at an early stage is very much a good and for them probly a bad thing -people that take Serious Spaceship Bizniz to a new low should be shot by Concord asap -and Im in agreement for Insurance changes see another post topic in Assembly hall, As Its officially not to of any one use.
Suicide Ganking is a legiitmate form of playing....its only harassment if it is something done without purpose or motivation. In this case its to get a kill. Prue and Simple.
Don't like it...then walk away.
People that take serious "spaceship bizniz" to a new low are no different than you "raping" an entire asteroid field in a PVP'ers eyes or overcharning for equipment in the name of profit. Beuaty is in the eye of the beholder. In other words...get over yourself.
Insurance has already been changed and no longer given CONCORD'd.
Not that it did a damn thing..used to be in that camp myself...but then I realized PVP'ers don't care about ISK.
Truth be told...I'm sorry....and while I don't like ganking..I have yet to be a victim of such a thing...I've witntessed it..come close...and truth be told...you have to be pretty damn stupid to get suicide ganked unless your just a "random" target in Jita...but those are the "tards" flying shuttles.
The solution to your problem.
Common Sense.
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Raging YarrX
Black Fury
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Posted - 2012.05.15 23:20:00 -
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Well, any ship is gankable in high sec. 29 billion ship to your rookie ship. I remember losing my rookie ship transporting a few true sansha amps. Life in eve is hard can't deal just quit. Evidently a lot of people are still here. Its just the few who ***** and ***** about it. |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
589
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Posted - 2012.05.16 00:59:00 -
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Raging YarrX wrote:Well, any ship is gankable in high sec. 29 billion ship to your rookie ship. I remember losing my rookie ship transporting a few true sansha amps. Life in eve is hard can't deal just quit. Evidently a lot of people are still here. Its just the few who ***** and ***** about it.
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Asheru
Fweddit
1
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Posted - 2012.05.16 03:01:00 -
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Your incessant whining gave us Incarna, carebears. YOU almost killed Eve.
@ OP: F*CK OFF AND DIE. |
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2012.05.16 03:07:00 -
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Rather than enabling solo play, how about we did something about hi-sec ganking that encourages cooperation (multiplayer) like, say, Aegis destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 Support Aegis Destroyers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610 |
John Munkeen
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.17 23:05:00 -
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I Agree with T2 ships been insured better. As a miner I think we need a ship to have a tank but can mine too like hulks but that's not going to work as it will be to easy to make ISK! and the market will be out of whack , So if we need to have more tank then we need a cost to yield and cargo space to balance things out.
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