Simple:

A ship that can destroy a 250mil ship should cost 250mil or damn close.

5mil V250mil is bullsh*t

You Fail horribly at EVE.

Leave now and turn in your pod.

Simple:

A ship that can destroy a 250mil ship should cost 250mil or damn close.

5mil V250mil is bullsh*t

Simple:

A ship that can destroy a 250mil ship should cost 250mil or damn close.

5mil V250mil is bullsh*t

I dont want to start a trend, and I dont want to say too much. But there is a very viable way of stopping suicide gankers... Its not been there long.

Use your head.

Simple:

A ship that can destroy a 250mil ship should cost 250mil or damn close.

5mil V250mil is bullsh*t

Simple:

A ship that can destroy a 250mil ship should cost 250mil or damn close.

5mil V250mil is bullsh*t

I agree with Lady Flute... Vocal ISK elites and super nerds are ruining the game. Game is slanted away from new subs for sure. If another player friendly sci-fi indy game is developed by another corp, CCP will be ganked, and CCP will be QQing, and will quit EvE like ****** did and play Dust instead... Real life gaming developing = Null sec in the same way....

:D

What you should be doing is guarding your vulnerable vessels. It isnt hard.

We all started blissfully ignorant of what EVE is. You have to either accept it and get smart and learn how to keep yourself alive, or quit. Those are your options. There is no, "make the game easier" way out.

Actually, it is hard. You tell me how to stop a hulk from getting suicide ganked by 4 destoyers. It's not possible, especailly for newer players. CONCORD protects gankers, and people with wanted bounties on them. Broken system is broken.

EVE is about largest wallet wins. Happens all the time, and that's ok. It inspires people to make more ISK. But there is no credible defence to suicide ganking at the moment, and that's broken. PvP should never be certain kill, any more than having a big shiny warship should never guarantee victory without skill.

Actually, it is hard. You tell me how to stop a hulk from getting suicide ganked by 4 destoyers. It's not possible, especailly for newer players. CONCORD protects gankers, and people with wanted bounties on them. Broken system is broken.

Come try to gank my Hulk next time I mine. I'll even put you in fleet so you can warp right next to me.

To save time, here is the outcome. I'll be in warp before you exit warp. I'll have about 3 seconds to identify your ship, and a dessie or BC3 means I'm gone. Cruiser depends on the ship. BS... I wouldn't care at this point it would be funny. And frig/indie I would just laugh.


Hint: every ship can instawarp if you have it set up.

Obviously you've never heard of an insta-lock before. You're locked and alpha'd before you even hit warp.

I've already demonstrated this to several people in ice and ore belts. An exhumer isn't going to get to warp before I can scram and kill it with hot mods.

Obviously you've never heard of an insta-lock before. You're locked and alpha'd before you even hit warp.

I've already demonstrated this to several people in ice and ore belts. An exhumer isn't going to get to warp before I can scram and kill it with hot mods.

Actually, it is hard. You tell me how to stop a hulk from getting suicide ganked by 4 destoyers. It's not possible, especailly for newer players. CONCORD protects gankers, and people with wanted bounties on them. Broken system is broken.

EVE is about largest wallet wins. Happens all the time, and that's ok. It inspires people to make more ISK. But there is no credible defence to suicide ganking at the moment, and that's broken. PvP should never be certain kill, any more than having a big shiny warship should never guarantee victory without skill.

haha notice how those who oppose such suggestions are always the gutless rats incapable of fighting a fair gun fight and so make themselves feel big by picking on the very people trying t help provide the very ships they fly and ammo they shoot, in this that is supposed to be an economy driven game.

less alt accounts might make the gankers appreciate the miners hard work to keep the chain of supply and demand going more.

i think it needs some refining of course but i support this. they always bang on about balance when making updates but where is the balance for the industrialists? it needs to change! as said it doesn't matter your views on it the fact is this will only drive away new players and leave ccp with no income. then you will have no game to gank in at all.

Theft is fine and is part of the game but i feel something like can flipping is more an exploit, as i explain and make case for here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114684&find=unread

its time to start balancing the odds for those who do the hard work. its not about stopping criminality and PvP and its not about making the game 100% safe. its just about evening the odds, its about or old friend "balance", and matching things up in the respective sectors of space.

I support this. The game isn't balanced. I should cost at least 30% of the price of the ganked ship, to suicide gank someone.

haha notice how those who oppose such suggestions are always the gutless rats incapable of fighting a fair gun fight and so make themselves feel big by picking on the very people trying t help provide the very ships they fly and ammo they shoot, in this that is supposed to be an economy driven game.

less alt accounts might make the gankers appreciate the miners hard work to keep the chain of supply and demand going more.

i think it needs some refining of course but i support this. they always bang on about balance when making updates but where is the balance for the industrialists? it needs to change! as said it doesn't matter your views on it the fact is this will only drive away new players and leave ccp with no income. then you will have no game to gank in at all.

Theft is fine and is part of the game but i feel something like can flipping is more an exploit, as i explain and make case for here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114684&find=unread

its time to start balancing the odds for those who do the hard work. its not about stopping criminality and PvP and its not about making the game 100% safe. its just about evening the odds, its about or old friend "balance", and matching things up in the respective sectors of space.

I support this. The game isn't balanced. I should cost at least 30% of the price of the ganked ship, to suicide gank someone.

Ha! Its oh so simple for all the Rich Btch (IRL) Players, with no life and their multi accounts to sit and say this is what you need to do to get along. But some of us don't just have money to throw away. And yes we can join a corp and team up, we do, but that only covers maybe 75% of game play at most. But there will always be times where e are left to our own devices.

Now i agree PvP is an important part of the game and that there is always risks and such.

But seriously, when did it become acceptable to pick on the little guy. Its utterly pathetic! Id like to say you wouldnt do it IRL, but i dont know. Your probably the type of people who would beat partners and children cos it makes you feel big.

But your not, your crap. You have simply played long enough to earn enough ISK and train enough skills to fly these ganking ships. And now you hide in high sec getting your little kicks hitting at the hard workers working to provide the materials you all need. If you were actually any good, truely had any skill, you would P*** of and find a real fight, more evenly matched.

If the consensus is that ganking is fine, then sure ill go with that, ill watch my back and just try to get on. But dont act like your the high and mighty for doing it. If we're playing it that way then accept your role; you are the Scum, the lowest of the low of Eve and nothing more.