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knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.17 06:46:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Quote: Allowing war dec targets to leave corporation instantly while trapping the aggressing corporation into a potential merc+target counter gank isn't "awesome".
Targets? Characters could always leave a wardec corp instantly unless they had roles, then they get a 24 hour cooldown. This isn't changing.
Now they also get a bad rep right? which is more than what it is now.
The new system is not perfect people, but it is sure as hell better than what we got now. |
knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.17 08:34:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Takseen wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:
The key word in your fanboy smugness is "might". There isn't going to be a might. Its a each and everytime you try and focus aggression to one corp you are automatically going to deal with two. You also neglect to address any other point, im sure its convenient.
That's how wars work in real life though. You declare war on someone, they bring their allies in to fight for them. Using them as a war to grief a specific person was always a bit suspect. Curiously, I remember the United States bringing in the Brits, the Australians and 3 Polish guys to attack Iraq. If were going to bring in real life it would seem I have a point. It comes down to this. All attackers are being viewed as unjust and deserving of more risk while all defenders are being viewed as noble and deserving of every ease of execution that can be given. Every attacker is also being treated as more skilled or greater in number and every defender as smaller or less competent. For something thats promoting war it seems to make some very nuanced assumptions that will stagnate alot of high sec conflict.
You forgot the 1 danish guy. |
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Posted - 2012.05.17 08:42:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Takseen wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote: It comes down to this. All attackers are being viewed as unjust and deserving of more risk while all defenders are being viewed as noble and deserving of every ease of execution that can be given. Every attacker is also being treated as more skilled or greater in number and every defender as smaller or less competent.
Why else would you declare war on someone if you didn't think you were better than them? Well lets start with VersaEx. At one time a 45-50 man Russian Corp. These indignant twats had the audacity to tell my corpmate he owes them 250 mil for suicide ganking a hulk of theirs. Outraged by this unjust blackmail we counter offered them to live in peace for a sum of 500 million. They refused. 5billion isk in losses for them and 50% of their corp members having (from 45 to 22) quit we retracted the war having felt the injustice settled. Thats just one injustice from EVE shennanigans. Tell me what would you have done but honorably declare war on those tyrants? A 45 man corp demanding a 5 man (at the time) corp to pay that extortion? War I tell ya was necessary. Now they want to give these guys a free ally? Where's the justice?
The ally is not free and what stops you from attacking with more than a 5man corp? In reality, even the ISK sink dec on goons is not that much, if you declare war on them you should expect to pay A LOT more and not have an issue with it.
You know, like how it works now pretty much.
all I see is a better system and hopefully a way for wars to escalate further and I think it might even create more wars, yeah!
anyway, I think the bigger issue now is, can wardecc be more meaningful than now and what this expansion will bring. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:48:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Styx Cyc wrote:mxzf wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Charming. FYI I've been at CCP since August of last year, and in my current position for 1 month. Also, there's not a game in the world that doesn't ship/release with bugs. If you don't have an understanding of QA process and software lifecycle I would thank you to keep your opinions and conjecture on the matter to yourself. This is the kind of thing that bothers me the most. I do understand QA and software lifecycle, my job is programming. And I know that shrugging and saying "Well, everything has bugs to begin with, it's still ready to sell to people" and not bothering to fix said bugs would get me fired. This kind of half-assed attempt at getting things working before pushing them to master is just disgusting. I honestly like the idea behind the new UI, it's a nice idea and looks decent. But the implementation, especially breaking all current functionality with it, is utter crap. You did have a decent idea here CCP, but you completely screwed it up by ignoring all the responses from players and just shrugging them off. We spent over a month trying to give you feedback, but you simply ignored it. That doesn't sound like you care about making a good game, it sounds like you care about hitting a deadline and nothing else at all. As a programmer then you would also know there is something known as Resistance to Change. While I agree some people have valid gripes about the new UI, a lot of it just seem to be complaining for the sake of it, specially when people outright tell you "I will never get used to it!!!!!11111", and the new UI is barely 24 hours old. Been there done that. You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)
That is not true at all, people are known to resist what is good for them all the time.
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knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:05:00 -
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Di Mulle wrote:knulla wrote:
That is not true at all, people are known to resist what is good for them all the time.
It is true. Just another thing is also true, you are making a classic logical mistake, by assuming "all whats is resisted is good".
No I did not, I stated that people resist good things all the time and therefore he cannot use that as an argument.
I will let you know when I have an opinion on the UI, give me a week and I will have a good answer. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:12:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:CCP Arrow wrote:Hey folks.
I just wanted to restate what we said in the Dev blog for the Unified Inventory that we wanted to get feedback from those that use SiSi in order to address problems that would occur. We intended on following heavily up on the feedback, doing as much as possible before launch as well as doing even further iterations and fixes in the upcoming release. Team Game of Drones is committed to a new methodology of using the principals of User Centered Design, where the User Experience of our players drives our design decisions.
Not only did we collect all feedback from the Forums, personal posts, Twitter comments and other sources but we took the issues many of you like Grey Stormshadow, Tippia and other have been pointing out and created a User Testing plan which we facilitated last week. In the sessions the whole team observed the live feed and took notes on everything the participants did. We don't do User Tests because we don't believe you when you say there is a problem, we want to address it correctly and by seeing it in action with our own eyes, we can more easily find a solution to the problems you have found.
Once we had collected all the date from the tests we created stories and design updates which have either already been submitted to the next SiSi build, or we are actively working on or have been put into our backlog of work stories which we will address as priority stories before we start working on other features for next release.
I'm sorry if people that have given us feedback have felt we didn't listen in the past few days, I hope this post has re-instated that we actually listen and act accordingly and have simply been doing nothing else since the release of our blog. In the future, when we go through the feedback and create User Testing plans, we will make sure we reply to all the different discussion threads on the forums where we read the feedback, so that you all know that the feedback has been read, noted and addressed.
Thank you all for the feedback, you help us make better features and a special thanks to those that have gone above and beyond by bringing us very detailed and accurate constructive feedback, it does make a world of a difference for us. Words. We actually feel once again you guys don't give a crap about our feedback. From who do you guys take feedback from to think this feature was at a sufficient status/improvement for our gaming experience? We're sure it's not from the community, despite how many words you guys can throw at us it's a lie. We told you this was a nice base for improvements but in need of serious work so this feature is not implemented half finished and bring us a worst game experience than older feature. Now live on TQ and it's just completely impossible for me to have a decent time gaming (gaming is supposed to mean fun, right?), how much fun do you guys have wasting a whole expansion with a single feature? Yes wasted, because I just can't play decently be at station trading/industry be at hauling or just set my assets split in several stations and actually in space is just awful to even find/select my ammo/load when usually was just drag/drop easily. You might think it's easier because you're told to but it's not. And I'm not having a good laugh at all.
I did not give the new UI bad feedback, shoot me
(and shoot every one else who think different than you and presume all EVE is your *****.) |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:18:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Coperation -> Memberlist -> [x] Online only: list of 2 personen. Corpchat: ~10 Members Online.
Confusing as ****.
Devastating bug indeed, yet I think you will survive, I bet you would rage quit over much worse years ago though
Was that the final straw for you? |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:21:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:knulla wrote:I did not give the new UI bad feedback, shoot me (and shoot every one else who think different than you and presume all EVE is your *****.) Seems this post is about people who tested/used it and rightfully think their gaming experience is worst. If you're that happy why are you trolling those not sharing your opinion? Ho and by the way bring us all your uber enlightenment how great it is when you manage your pos mods, your reactions, several assets all over the place, dozens or hundreds of ships in same station etc etc. Yes please enlight us of your tremendous and recognised uber greatness, because you know, everyone not thinking like you is dumb amirite?
take your "amirites" and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
I tested it, and I did not mind it in fact I think it is better than what we have, I assume they will improve it also, but please keep ranting.
fool! |
knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:24:00 -
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Take some xanax or valium and go to bed, it will all seem better tomorrow.
Or stay crazy. |
knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:31:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:knulla wrote:Take some xanax or valium and go to bed, it will all seem better tomorrow. Or stay crazy. You missed the point, completely, and once again. You care to throw your yadayada crap words with absolutely no decent argument and with an inability to answer simple questions. This is how good you feel? -you're awful, wait maybe you want me to ask those question in French so you can understand and maybe give some answers instead of trolling?
What point? That you need meds? I got that already. |
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knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:33:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote:knulla wrote:Take some xanax or valium and go to bed, it will all seem better tomorrow. Or stay crazy. What you have to understand about a poster like this, is it is just acting out of fear. Fear of things they will likely never understand
That or autist.
Freaks are freaks, people going crazy like this on patch day needs to be shot, with a tranquilizer and stay a sleep for a few days before they can post on the forums, in a sensible manner. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:36:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:knulla wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:knulla wrote:Take some xanax or valium and go to bed, it will all seem better tomorrow. Or stay crazy. You missed the point, completely, and once again. You care to throw your yadayada crap words with absolutely no decent argument and with an inability to answer simple questions. This is how good you feel? -you're awful, wait maybe you want me to ask those question in French so you can understand and maybe give some answers instead of trolling? What point? That you need meds? I got that already. Your inability to answer questions is staggering. You just won the super troll tittle and a block for such trolling, moron.
What question? I gave a statement, anything else is mute and pointless. If you quit over this you are a ******, if you keep ranting about the new UI in this manner you are also a ******.
Feel free to use that as an answer to any question you got, peace! |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:38:00 -
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Jajas Helper wrote:non judgement wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:keep laughing when no one is playing You know that some people unsubbed because of the new font? To me, this is the same kind of thing. After all, it's just the inventory. How you fly ships and shoot other people in the game hasn't changed at all.I know life can be hard sometimes. If you really want to be angry, there are more serious things to get angry about in life than this. SO people do more then flying ships and/to shoot people. These things are now taking more time, are unorganized and overall have gotten worse and tedious. We are now having less time to fly ships and/or shoot people and are having even less fun while doing what was already tedious internetspacebusiness. But atleast you are seeing how "just the inventory" is making the game unplayable for people who do other things then shooting stuff. Life can be hard sometimes, and i'll accept that "hardness", if that was the intention of this 'upgrade". Until then, i'll keep believing ccp actually wanted to make our lives easier, but again, ****** it up.... while we all knew this was not going to work before it actually went live. So I'll be waiting for the CCP, HTFU news statement, and accept that they are indeed trying to make it harder to do simple things in their game. BTW, if they dont improve the inventory, i myself have 3 account which i will drop because the industry i run on those is now taking ALOT more time then before, handling pos jobs is even more tedious then before and I could save myself 3 subs a month and do other things to make isk with my main ( instead of ******* around with the industry side). Industry was already tedious to the point where it drove people away from it, this is just the drop. So troll away, but this 'upgrade' was half baked, and forced on us while we all knew it was not finished/useable and was going to fail.
You are the worst example of an industrialist and you give the rest of us a bad name.
I hope you quit today with your 3 accounts, pretty please do it, go ahead, I know you will make a lot of people happy!
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knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:50:00 -
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Kimver wrote:2 knulla 8 day noob? Come on, dont be a chicken, show your real face. You are just a stupid fat troll.
And you are? Oh that's right, never mind, I don't give a ****.
But please, keep making the rest of us laugh at your sad trolling, quitting over this UI change?
right.
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knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:51:00 -
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Jajas Helper wrote:knulla wrote:Jajas Helper wrote:non judgement wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:keep laughing when no one is playing You know that some people unsubbed because of the new font? To me, this is the same kind of thing. After all, it's just the inventory. How you fly ships and shoot other people in the game hasn't changed at all.I know life can be hard sometimes. If you really want to be angry, there are more serious things to get angry about in life than this. SO people do more then flying ships and/to shoot people. These things are now taking more time, are unorganized and overall have gotten worse and tedious. We are now having less time to fly ships and/or shoot people and are having even less fun while doing what was already tedious internetspacebusiness. But atleast you are seeing how "just the inventory" is making the game unplayable for people who do other things then shooting stuff. Life can be hard sometimes, and i'll accept that "hardness", if that was the intention of this 'upgrade". Until then, i'll keep believing ccp actually wanted to make our lives easier, but again, ****** it up.... while we all knew this was not going to work before it actually went live. So I'll be waiting for the CCP, HTFU news statement, and accept that they are indeed trying to make it harder to do simple things in their game. BTW, if they dont improve the inventory, i myself have 3 account which i will drop because the industry i run on those is now taking ALOT more time then before, handling pos jobs is even more tedious then before and I could save myself 3 subs a month and do other things to make isk with my main ( instead of ******* around with the industry side). Industry was already tedious to the point where it drove people away from it, this is just the drop. So troll away, but this 'upgrade' was half baked, and forced on us while we all knew it was not finished/useable and was going to fail. You are the worst example of an industrialist and you give the rest of us a bad name. I hope you quit today with your 3 accounts, pretty please do it, go ahead, I know you will make a lot of people happy! Comfirming running 99 invention jobs, 3-4 times a day is making me a bad industrialist, having over 700+ industry jobs in our corp is a bad thing indeed... But thank you for pointing that out, I will go and contract all my stuff to you and biomass my toons.
I hope you do. Peace and it was nice not knowing you. |
knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:03:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Styx Cyc wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote: You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)
There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years. As for not listening, with that I agree. This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option. Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp).
Try dealing with life. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:08:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:knulla wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Styx Cyc wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote: You don't get resistance to good change, just change that takes away from the user experience and doesn't add to it. Its also about listening to the end user feedback and managing expectations, triple fail on CCP's part (with the new UI)
There will always be resistance to change. Specially when a userbase has been doing things a certain way for a large number of years. As for not listening, with that I agree. This particular case is not resistance to change. It's quick realization that just to achieve what earlier you did in one click, now you need 3-4. EVERYTHING needs more clicks not just the rare exotic option. Just to see your damn station cargo and drop 4-5 things somewhere now is a pain in the ***. Try refilling a POS. Try dealing with a reaction. Try dealing with multiple divisions with a dozen boxes each (very common in any average corp). Try dealing with life. It's funny, do you get paid to post such stupid drivel in every thread?
Nope, your reply was reward enough.
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knulla
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:16:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:knulla wrote: Nope, your reply was reward enough.
You are very easily pleased. It's probably why you like the new UI. I have a Brooklin bridge for sale if you would like...
a or "the"? No but please use that joke more often, I am sure you can kill a crowd with that that material of yours. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:17:00 -
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Andemnon Kohort wrote:
you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.
You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:22:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote:knulla wrote:Andemnon Kohort wrote:
you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.
You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some what a joke, you are less that insignifiant, begone
me begone? No, you begone, you said you quit several times then fing quit and f-off already. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:38:00 -
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Andemnon Kohort wrote:knulla wrote:Malice Redeemer wrote:knulla wrote:Andemnon Kohort wrote:
you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.
You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some what a joke, you are less that insignifiant, begone me begone? No, you begone, you said you quit several times then fing quit and f-off already. Knulla this forum is for Eve players, not WoW rejects.. so STFU and sod off back to WOW..
You quit the game, you have no right telling any eve player what they should or should not do, in fact, you quit so what the **** are you doing here still?
Leave already, before we all start to think you were just trolling and making stupid, empty threats to CCP because you are a ******. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:45:00 -
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Darth Kilth wrote:After ignoring posts of this knulla person I see so many red bars in this topic, I have to say they look more pleasing then any of his replies.
Can we now get this discussion back on topic please? The UI problem is more important then Knulla's ego.
My EGO?
You guys are quitting EVE after years, some 2004 because of this tiny change.
Talk about ego |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 10:56:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:knulla wrote:Darth Kilth wrote:After ignoring posts of this knulla person I see so many red bars in this topic, I have to say they look more pleasing then any of his replies.
Can we now get this discussion back on topic please? The UI problem is more important then Knulla's ego. My EGO? You guys are quitting EVE after years, some 2004 because of this tiny change. Talk about ego Quitting Eve (or, more realistically, threatening to) seems more more like hissy fits than ego's to me. Over the next week or so, CCP will fix/amend most of the stuff that is wrong with the inventory system.
Well that is the point and it is also part of a persons ego, especially when they think the rest of us gives a **** and should join their attacks on CCP, over this... |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:07:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:knulla wrote:Andemnon Kohort wrote:
you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.
You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some You don't need to use your main to look like an ass.
Neither do you but you do. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:27:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:knulla wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:knulla wrote:Andemnon Kohort wrote:
you created that toon 8 days ago so you could just troll the forums.. awesome.. but then your just a gutless wonder that darent use their real identity anyway.
You got me, nice catch, now I will have to stroll back to my cave and hide, I would hate to end up looking like an ass on my main like some You don't need to use your main to look like an ass. Neither do you but you do. Before you make on my ignore list: I have what it takes to post on my main. You don't. It means you know you are posting garbage and are ashamed of it.
You sure have what it takes
Please don't let me stop you, keep on raging against CCP, they stole your kids and took your wives. Just answer me one thing, do you act this stupid every time it is patch day? If yes then let me ignore you now. |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:42:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Who is this knulla and why is she posting all the time?
I am a random eve player for many, many years.
Because I am bored, I can and someone needs to tell idiots like you to take xanax or stop wasting oxygen.
good enough? or do you want to say something else? |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:46:00 -
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Jajas Helper wrote:Just hide the troll's posts... makes live so much easier
Good idea, you are now blocked, bye! |
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:22:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:knulla wrote:Jajas Helper wrote:Just hide the troll's posts... makes live so much easier Good idea, you are now blocked, bye! Ironic how you take the "moral high ground" when your name itself is a slang word for intercourse. But I am guessing you already knew that.
Slang word for what? Moral high ground? Oh I am sorry... you must mistake me for someone else. -áMalice Redeemer - "Post if you are unsubing over the new inventory" -áPosted: 2012.05.23 01:39
-á-á-á-álol |
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