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SuiJuris	Posted - 2009.04.29 20:41:00 - [1] Wondering if anyone has some good fits for this little face melter. At work so no access to EFT.
SuiJuris	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:32:00 - [2] So, I finally got some decent EFT time in and this is what I came up with. Critique it if you would. Lows 1x EANMII 1x 400 MM Rolled Tung 1x DCII Last slot I was thinking a MAR or SAR Mids Medium Cap Booster Tracking Disruptor II Warp Disruptor 10MN Micro Warp drive Highs Small Nos II Med Neut II Small Neut II Drone Link Augmentor As for the drones I was undecided, I can get a little over 200 DPS with Hammerhead II's but then I only have 1 flight of drones.
Julia Venatrix	Posted - 2009.04.29 21:43:00 - [3] Arbi lock range is about the same as drone control range (give or take) - you could probably skip the drone range mod. --- Some days you are the pigeon, and some the statue.
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:44:00 - [4] Pee Vee Pee. 1600mm plate 2x EANM II 1x Damage Control II 1x MWD 1x Web 1x 24km pt 1x Tracking disruptor (generally with optimal range disruption script) 3x Small Neuts 1x Salvager All sorts of drones. Don't rat in your PvP fit. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
crockett EXE Minmatar Mutineers	Posted - 2009.04.30 02:59:00 - [5] Edited by: crockett EXE on 30/04/2009 03:00:11 Originally by: Artemis Rose Pee Vee Pee. 1600mm plate 2x EANM II 1x Damage Control II 1x MWD 1x Web 1x 24km pt 1x Tracking disruptor (generally with optimal range disruption script) 3x Small Neuts 1x Salvager All sorts of drones. Don't rat in your PvP fit. This is close to my fit, but I use two tracking disruptors rather than a web being I try to stay out of scram/web range myself. I carry both sets of scripts and typically load one of each unless I decide to double up on tracking if I get real close. In the high slots I use 2 small neuts and 2 small nos, but hardly ever use them. I don't use it for ratting though and I carry 2 sets of warrior II's and one set of Hammerhead II's. One of these days I'll train my ECM skills and carry a set of t1 ecm lights.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.04.30 03:33:00 - [6] If I'm reading the op correctly what he wants to do is primarily rat and then occasionaly engage in some opportunistic pvp. So when that bastage who entered local and commenced ruining the chains he had so metuculously set up he can direction scan to see what ship it is. If its like the majority of low sec ratters it will be some flavor of a frigate or destroyer that can easily be crushed or maybe a lucky miner/hauler kill. So with that in mind here is a nice setup that permaruns all mods for pve and lasts 5+ minutes with the warp disruptor activated in a pvp situation. 300+ dps and 24k ehp with the resists concentrated on the common types you will most likely encounter. For pve the shield part should never get close to breaking and the combined regen of a full shield and the armor buffer should see the demise of the majority of pve fitted ratting ships cruiser and lower well before you pop. Use the small repper to off the armor and the repper bot to fix any damaged drones at a safespot after a close fight and then go do it again. [Arbitrator, Low sec ratter/pvp] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II 10MN Afterburner II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Ultraviolet M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Ultraviolet M Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Flameburst Light Missile Salvager II Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x6 Vespa EC-600 x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x1 Warrior II x7 Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.30 11:37:00 - [7] thats a pretty terrible fit zeba
MidnightMartyr Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.04.30 15:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Gneeznow thats a pretty terrible fit zeba This TBH. If it's going to be dual purpose then it needs to be active tanked. Just don't dual tank it... that isnt a good idea. Lasors are a good idea as well.
Rathion	Posted - 2009.04.30 17:55:00 - [9] Well, Zeba had the right Idea. but I just don't like the fit she suggested. Mainly I will be ratting and the PvP would be opportunistic
SuiJuris	Posted - 2009.04.30 17:56:00 - [10] ^^^ stupid alt
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.04.30 18:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Gneeznow thats a pretty awesome fit zeba Fixed. So I nailed his use for it and gave him an excellent if unconventional fit. It will totaly cream the same competing ratters that the more normal 1600 plate arbi can and has a lovely self regenerating buffer for the pve so he doesn't have to dock up every now and again to rep the armor buffer when the normal unbuffed arbi shield goes poof after a couple belts of rats. Will it kill a pvp fit cruiser or battecruiser like the arbi 1600 plate setup has a very slim chance of doing? No it won't but thats not what he wants to do. He wants to pop those other annoying interfereing ratters as he efficiently rats the day away and he can do it easily with my setup. The Arbitrator is one of the most versatile ships as long as you can work outside the box for the fit you need to compliment its wanted role. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.05.01 03:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Zeba Poast Anything resembling a PvP/PvE hyrbid fit is bound to fail terribly. Terrible buffer, lolz AB and the fact you aren't using a tracking disruptor makes its a fail PvP ship. If he wants to do both, keep it as close as humanly possible to full on PvP setup (as far as my setup, slap a repper on it and viola, a decent PvP ship that can rat). *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.01 04:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Artemis Rose Originally by: Zeba Poast Anything resembling a PvP/PvE hyrbid fit is bound to fail terribly. Terrible buffer, lolz AB and the fact you aren't using a tracking disruptor makes its a fail PvP ship. If he wants to do both, keep it as close as humanly possible to full on PvP setup (as far as my setup, slap a repper on it and viola, a decent PvP ship that can rat). Well you are either trolling or are one of those guys who can't see a viable fit past his fc's post on what to bring to a pos bash with an extra special section for the cannon fodder on how to fit it in the corp forums. Both probably. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.05.01 06:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Zeba I'm stupid Look at me! Okay. 1. When, in all of EVE, would it EVER be a good idea to have both a shield and an armor buffer? The small armor repper and the shield rigs make for extra comedy. Your fit is truly, remarkably terrible. 2. When is it a good idea to straight out ignore a ship's bonus? You even have the 4th mid to put a tracking disruptor after the holy trinity for PvP (MWD, Pt, Web). Considering a good majority of the ships an Arbitrator can fight solo use guns, its purely stupid not to have one. 3. An afterburner is purely stupid to fit for anything PvP related. If you want to give up all PvP uses of speed, don't even bother fitting a speed mod. Before you even go "lolz I can tank missiles" you'll get webbed, and your terrible multiple buffer will be shot to pieces. Even in a PvE aspect, you can't really use the AB. Lowsec rats would die to drones before they could pose a threat to you, and you won't escape anybody or anything with an AB. 4. As far as the highslots go, creative uses of neuting can serve you much better than unbonused DPS from laser/missile fire. You can completely destroy any frigate, no matter if they have NOS or they are cap injecting (not that frigates pose a problem to a ship with bonused Hobgoblins/Warriors), and you can wreck havoc on other cruisers as well. 5. Its never smart to mix both PvE and PvP setups. If the OP really wants to do both, fit full PvP ship and just slap on a rep to casually repair the light damage you may take from rats. For your personal attacks, at you and those theories. Maybe take a second or two and get something relevant to insult me with. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.01 07:31:00 - [15] Edited by: Zeba on 01/05/2009 07:33:53 Ok I'll pose a little test to you. Instead of spouting all this eft warrior rehtoric why don't you post some real numbers and situations in which your fit will be a pvp star. Oh wait by the time you mwd to your target your cap is gone so all you have left is the drones. Whoops end of pvp fight as they will just warp away or moar likey pop your ship. So here is my critique of your PeeVeePee ship setup. 1~You have pathetic dps plus your cap use is outrageously high for what you get out of the small neuts whose amusingly short range made you mwd over to your target and eat up all the cap so now you can't use them anyways or even the mods to hold your target down or the speed to use the td bonus effectively. 2~Your mwd arbi goes all of 1100ms and accelerates very slowly so unless you happen to warp on top of your target or it is afk it will get away every single time. 3~Rats will tear you a new one as all belt rats have a mwd and some even have a scram and will immediatly rush to their optimal so if you try to mwd and tank the rats your sig bloom will eat your total buffer up almost as quick as the mwd eats your cap. 4~The miracle happens and you warp ontop of someone with nearly full cap and luck of all luck they have no web point or neut. Even luckier we managed to lock him up in small nuet range so we now have a web point td and neuts on him and orbiting at about 4500meters and the drones are out. So now it branches to three possible scenarious and you have 52 seconds of cap if you don't use the mwd and about 15~20 seconds if you do. 4a~Frigate: Probable kill though even with the web and nuets your not going to hold him long as his base webbed speed will be greater than your base unwebbed speed. If he has a clue and hits the ab or mwd he will have an almost 100% chance to get away as even three small nuets take a couple of cycles to cap out a frigate. Also if you try to pulse your mwd to keep the range down you will cap out in seconds and lose your point and web. 4b~Destroyer: If he is smart he will target and pop your drones as he inches out of your cap starved arbi's web range and eventually gets away. 4c~Crusier: You will never hold and solo kill any cruiser in the game that has any decent pvp or pve fit period with your setup. Morons maybe but hey you can acomplish that in a newb ship. Wow only four points to show how remarkably ineffective at pve your setup is and how much of a deathtrap your setup will be if he even thinks about solo pvping in it. So in conclusion whilst my setup is not the optimal setup for a solo pvp boat its totally capable of fullfilling the op's intended use of ratting with a good chance of killing all three ship classes if he can get close enough on the warp in. Plus he doesn't even need to kill them really as most ratters even in a larger ship will vacate the system quick when a cruiser locks them up in a belt and goes flashy red. I mean you never know whats waiting in the next system if you get pointed so he can play on that paranoia too. I'm wondering if you even play the game now and have seen any pvp cause the op's arbi fit was a real pvp fit unlike yours. Hell its even fail in a gang because you can't hold range and keep your mods running for any reasonble amount of time. Now on to another misconception is the lovely mandatory mwd fit that is the only way to fit for pvp. Well up to a point this is true but you have to realise the reason the fc wants you to fit it is so if you get caught in a bubble then the whole fleet can mwd back to the gate and have a greater chance of saving more ships than an ab fit would do or as a gang to more quickly cover distance and engage other targets with the gang. However this player is ratting in a belt in low sec where a solo 1600mm plate cruiser is going to get pointed and webbed by a gate camp regardless of its 1100ms mwd speed so on this solo fit cruiser its a total waste of time and fittings. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
MalVortex Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.01 07:31:00 - [16] Arbitrator: 1600mm EANM DCU SAR/EANM/MAR AB/MWD w/e w/e w/e highs: w/e Thats your core armor tanked arbitrator. You can rat with it, you can gank with it, doesn't really change much either way. If you want to pvp, slap in a scram and some TDs and some nos. Want to pve? Well, put all the same in actually. For lowsec belt rating, you dont need some duper fancy CCC rigged arbitrator. Virtually all your damage comes from drones, so your dps modules are rather moot. Your tank will likley be the same either way, so focus on pvp and go ratting. You make money, and targets will warp to you at zero(!) which is right where the arbitrator wants them.
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.01 08:46:00 - [17] Originally by: MalVortex Arbitrator: 1600mm EANM DCU SAR/EANM/MAR AB/MWD w/e w/e w/e highs: w/e Thats your core armor tanked arbitrator. You can rat with it, you can gank with it, doesn't really change much either way. If you want to pvp, slap in a scram and some TDs and some nos. Want to pve? Well, put all the same in actually. For lowsec belt rating, you dont need some duper fancy CCC rigged arbitrator. Virtually all your damage comes from drones, so your dps modules are rather moot. Your tank will likley be the same either way, so focus on pvp and go ratting. You make money, and targets will warp to you at zero(!) which is right where the arbitrator wants them. this pretty much, ignore zeba's tl;dr wall of text without any actual content, also if you want to fly arbi's a lot I recommend training turret destabilization to 4 and trackin distruption to 4, with 2x tech 2 td's on an arby you'll shut down any gunship with ease
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.01 09:01:00 - [18] Wow you guys are just totally ignoring the op and have wandered off on some ultimate arbi solo pvp fit to pwn them all that sucks at pve with when all the poor guy wants to do is efficiently kill low sec rats and scare off the competition with maybe a lucky killmail in the process. Artemis's setup was 100% fail for everything be it pvp or pve and I have pointed that out in my wall of tl;dr text. My setup on the other hand is 100% effective at pve and will easily pwn the targets the op has in mind at best or drive them off at worst. FFS go get a room in CAOD and fap some moar over your lucky break with the whole harrgoth, bob and delve show and plan some moar blob operations whilst playing follow the leader as you dance to mittens.mp3. So in conclusion let the people who actually play the game with thier own mind do the thinking and give the advice here and leave the smarmy goonie cannon fodder drivel to local. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Lili Lu Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships	Posted - 2009.05.01 13:19:00 - [19] Edited by: Lili Lu on 01/05/2009 13:19:58 Don't care to get into the pro or anti Zeba thing going on here. My suggestions - There is no energy transfer bonus on the Arby. It is not like the tech 2 varaiants. Don't bother with neuts. There is no cap reduction bonus on lasers, don't use lasers. With your stated use, and not knowing your fitting skills- highs: salvager, tractor, then light or heavy missile launcher (can put defender or fof in there also for some reduction in missile damage and ecm defense), dual 180 autocannon or 650 arty depending on your fitting skills or possibly a NOS to help power your own tank while your drones take care of your pvp foe. Meds: TD, mwd, cap injector(or cap recharger if you fit nos in the highs), scram or disrupter Lows: plates, mar, dc, adaptive plating or eanm drones: 5 rat specific med, 5 warrior II, (5 med ecm + 5 rat specific light, or 5 light ecm + 5 medium pvp drones of choice)
lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.05.02 08:58:00 - [20] Edited by: lollerwaffle on 02/05/2009 09:00:27 LOL Zeba you're pretty funny First you go off on some rant about FC's and required fittings and mwd and bubbles and stuff. How is that relevant? Before you start off on another fit of emorage because you got called out on a fail mixtank fit, check out this page to see where our corp does its thang. Most Violent Systems Second, your fit does have 'some' benefits (better capacitor I guess, the ultimate dream of non-pvpers is to be cap stable 100% of the time), but instead of arguing for it, you go off on a little rant, which lends no strength to your argument. 3. We don't fly under an FC 90% of the time. Most if not all of Sileo pilots are more than capable of thinking for themselves and knowing how to fit a ship when it comes to PVP. And lastly, what are you smoking and where can I get some? Looks like a ****znah from here edit: a quick search on battleclinic shows 0-4 K:D, so post with your main so we can see how awesome your main has been at using that arbi setup please
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.02 16:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Zeba FFS go get a room in CAOD and fap some moar over your lucky break with the whole harrgoth, bob and delve show and plan some moar blob operations whilst playing follow the leader as you dance to mittens.mp3. So in conclusion let the people who actually play the game with thier own mind do the thinking and give the advice here and leave the smarmy goonie cannon fodder drivel to local. calm down guy, my calling you out on your terrible fit is just that, a callout on a terrible fit, but thx for the bitter tears anyway, they make eve worth playing, anyway here is the reason the fit he should use while ratting in low sec is a pvp fit, you ready for it? .... the reason is! that its not exactly hard to kill rats in low sec! and a pvp fit will both suffice for the task and stand the best chance of killing someone who tries to catch him in the belt, seeing as there is only 1 bs rat per low sec belt all he has to do is orbit up close and the rat wont track him I know, my mind is blown too
Hannibal Ord Minmatar CARTHAGO SECURITY INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2009.05.02 17:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Zeba FFS go get a room in CAOD and fap some moar over your lucky break with the whole harrgoth, bob and delve show and plan some moar blob operations whilst playing follow the leader as you dance to mittens.mp3. So in conclusion let the people who actually play the game with thier own mind do the thinking and give the advice here and leave the smarmy goonie cannon fodder drivel to local. calm down guy, my calling you out on your terrible fit is just that, a callout on a terrible fit, but thx for the bitter tears anyway, they make eve worth playing, anyway here is the reason the fit he should use while ratting in low sec is a pvp fit, you ready for it? .... the reason is! that its not exactly hard to kill rats in low sec! and a pvp fit will both suffice for the task and stand the best chance of killing someone who tries to catch him in the belt, seeing as there is only 1 bs rat per low sec belt all he has to do is orbit up close and the rat wont track him I know, my mind is blown too No offence Zeba, but erm, Gneeznow is like a serious authority on the Arbi in terms of using it for PVP. As such, face it, he totally just butt****d you in the bottom. For ratting in low sec, just fit a pvp fit. There is no need to even remotely look at PVE/PVP hybrid fits.
lecrotta Minmatar lecrotta Corp	Posted - 2009.05.02 18:00:00 - [23] Originally by: Hannibal Ord Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Zeba FFS go get a room in CAOD and fap some moar over your lucky break with the whole harrgoth, bob and delve show and plan some moar blob operations whilst playing follow the leader as you dance to mittens.mp3. So in conclusion let the people who actually play the game with thier own mind do the thinking and give the advice here and leave the smarmy goonie cannon fodder drivel to local. calm down guy, my calling you out on your terrible fit is just that, a callout on a terrible fit, but thx for the bitter tears anyway, they make eve worth playing, anyway here is the reason the fit he should use while ratting in low sec is a pvp fit, you ready for it? .... the reason is! that its not exactly hard to kill rats in low sec! and a pvp fit will both suffice for the task and stand the best chance of killing someone who tries to catch him in the belt, seeing as there is only 1 bs rat per low sec belt all he has to do is orbit up close and the rat wont track him I know, my mind is blown too As such, face it, he totally just butt**d you in the bottom. For ratting in low sec, just fit a pvp fit. Is their a way of butt**** somebody not in the bottom then?.
Constantine Arcanum IMPERIAL SENATE Initiative Associates	Posted - 2009.05.02 18:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Zeba If I'm reading the op correctly what he wants to do is primarily rat and then occasionaly engage in some opportunistic pvp. So when that bastage who entered local and commenced ruining the chains he had so metuculously set up he can direction scan to see what ship it is. If its like the majority of low sec ratters it will be some flavor of a frigate or destroyer that can easily be crushed or maybe a lucky miner/hauler kill. So with that in mind here is a nice setup that permaruns all mods for pve and lasts 5+ minutes with the warp disruptor activated in a pvp situation. 300+ dps and 24k ehp with the resists concentrated on the common types you will most likely encounter. For pve the shield part should never get close to breaking and the combined regen of a full shield and the armor buffer should see the demise of the majority of pve fitted ratting ships cruiser and lower well before you pop. Use the small repper to off the armor and the repper bot to fix any damaged drones at a safespot after a close fight and then go do it again. [Arbitrator, Low sec ratter/pvp] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II 10MN Afterburner II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Ultraviolet M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Ultraviolet M Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Flameburst Light Missile Salvager II Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x6 Vespa EC-600 x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x1 Warrior II x7 worst troll i've ever seen. 0/10
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.03 21:10:00 - [25] Originally by: Constantine Arcanum worst troll i've ever seen. 0/10 Too obvious and relys upon the already discredited poasters opinions above for certification. -10/10 Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Kessiaan Minmatar MicroFunks	Posted - 2009.05.04 00:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Zeba ... godawful Arbi fit... My ratting Enyo will rip this fit to shreds. Which is what the OP should be doing if he wants a dual-purpose ship. Unlike T1 cruisers, AFs can rat pretty well in standard pvp fits, when someone shows up all you have to do is switch ammo types (should you decide to engage, of course)
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.04 03:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Kessiaan Originally by: Zeba ... godawful Arbi fit... My ratting Enyo will rip this fit to shreds. Which is what the OP should be doing if he wants a dual-purpose ship. Unlike T1 cruisers, AFs can rat pretty well in standard pvp fits, when someone shows up all you have to do is switch ammo types (should you decide to engage, of course) Way to read the op. Your Enyo is going to shred pretty much any t1 cruiser regardless so you are going to be one of the players he avoids. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
SuiJuris	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:07:00 - [28] So.... I went out and killed a bunch of rats. Gneez is absolutely correct. Since there is only 1 bs spawn per belt they hardly scratch my shields before im too close to be hit. Was rolling with the following fit. 800 mm rolled tungsten DCII EANM II SAR II (Removed after the first 30 minutes and replaced with a second EANM II) Mids Med Cap Booster (200's) Tracking Disruptor II 24km Point MWDII Highs Don't remember Think I had 1 missile launcher then some salvagers.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:13:00 - [29] Glad its working for you. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:13:00 - [30] Originally by: SuiJuris So.... I went out and killed a bunch of rats. Gneez is absolutely correct. Since there is only 1 bs spawn per belt they hardly scratch my shields before im too close to be hit. Was rolling with the following fit. 800 mm rolled tungsten DCII EANM II SAR II (Removed after the first 30 minutes and replaced with a second EANM II) Mids Med Cap Booster (200's) Tracking Disruptor II 24km Point MWDII Highs Don't remember Think I had 1 missile launcher then some salvagers. if you can, I would say swap the medium injector for a small injector (which will still take cap 200's) and change the 800 plate up to 1600, this'll make all the difference should you get jumped (its pretty much the fit I used) also cant stress enough that atm a flight of medium ecm drones is well worth carrying

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