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Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 17:21:00 - [211] Edited by: Invelious on 12/08/2009 17:26:53 Edited by: Invelious on 12/08/2009 17:21:14 Originally by: Heartstone Just to pick up on one small point... Originally by: Invelious So your against all the 0.0 power blocks? Actually no. What we fight against is those that would say "This is our space you are not allowed to enter" or "This is our space you will abide by our decisions about who your enemy is". Territorialism in and off itself is not a bad thing. People should be free to use space and the bodies found within it how they chose but should also not restrict others from doing so. Whilst it would seem that from this CVA should be our natural allies it is the later statement that sadly moves them away from our beliefs. To be told that someone HAS to be set red or blue based on another's interactions with them is unacceptably counter to the concept of personal sovereignty. Heartstone. LOL, with that said you are describing all the o.o power blocks, and they all have their own rules and guidelines for who and who cannot enter and how to operate in their space. When they claim the space, they are claiming that the space is theirs and no others. And the "" was more at the fact that I can't believe how balloon headed you bunch really are, in claiming victory over BoB's demise and in the fact that you actually believe you can change the sov's of 0.0.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 17:29:00 - [212] Originally by: Invelious And the "" was more at the fact that I can't believe how balloon headed you bunch really are, in claiming victory over BoB's demise and in the fact that you actually believe you can change the sov's of 0.0. Still reeling from accidently bashing your head against the point then? 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 17:34:00 - [213] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Invelious And the "" was more at the fact that I can't believe how balloon headed you bunch really are, in claiming victory over BoB's demise and in the fact that you actually believe you can change the sov's of 0.0. Still reeling from accidently bashing your head against the point then? Still unable to counter the main point so your sticking to something that is completely inconsequential to the fact that was presented?
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 17:42:00 - [214] Originally by: Invelious And the "" was more at the fact that I can't believe how balloon headed you bunch really are, in claiming victory over BoB's demise and in the fact that you actually believe you can change the sov's of 0.0. Invelious take a deep breath and re-read what was written. My point was that the defeat of BoB was in no way a victory for us. Much like the destruction of the DARK POS by NC forces was no victory for the Amarr Militia. The whole basis of my argument was that claiming the third party victory as your own is foolish and used a ridiculous example of the way in which The Star Fraction could make claims if Rodj's parameters for declaring a victory were accepted i.e. that by his logic we can happily claim to have defeated BoB. As anyone with a half functioning brain can see we did not defeat BoB and as an extension of this exploration into the logic of Rodj's claims the Amarr Militia cannot claim responsibility for the destruction of DARK's POS. Heartstone. ---
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:13:00 - [215] Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy. -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:27:00 - [216] Originally by: Theophilas Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy. Were you too busy thinking up that fortune cookie wisdom to help your friends out just now? Heartstone. ---
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:32:00 - [217] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Theophilas Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy. Were you too busy thinking up that fortune cookie wisdom to help your friends out just now? For anarchists, you guys sure are arrogant ****s. -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:40:00 - [218] Originally by: Theophilas For anarchists, you guys sure are arrogant ****s. Whereas you are quite typical for an Amarrian nationalist. Thick as two short planks with even less charisma than a block of wood. 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:49:00 - [219] Edited by: Theophilas on 12/08/2009 19:51:34 Edited by: Theophilas on 12/08/2009 19:50:47 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Theophilas For anarchists, you guys sure are arrogant ****s. Whereas you are quite typical for an Amarrian nationalist. Thick as two short planks with even less charisma than a block of wood. Right, except, I'm a frigging slave driver. I literally whip slaves. Why, just the other day I brutally beat a Minmitar child who didn't polish my captains chair to a high enough gloss. Therefore it's understandable that I be an arrogant ass, but you free wheeling anarchists are supposed to be men of the people, but if anything you are the most arrogant corporation in the game. Perhaps you need to rethink your propaganda. -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:50:00 - [220] Edited by: Theophilas on 12/08/2009 19:50:26 Whoops. This second post was a mistake. -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.

Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:51:00 - [221] Edited by: Heartstone on 12/08/2009 19:51:28 Originally by: Theophilas Perhaps you need to rethink your propaganda. A Duck is a duck. Call it a chicken all you like we'll still call it a duck. Heartstone. ---
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:53:00 - [222] Originally by: Heartstone A Duck is a duck. Call it a chicken all you like we'll still call it a duck. It's like you can't help yourself. -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:54:00 - [223] Originally by: Theophilas but you free wheeling anarchists are supposed to be men of the people We are, problem is you aren't people. 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 19:57:00 - [224] Originally by: Jade Constantine We are, problem is you aren't people. haha! Spoken like a true Amarrian! Good show! Now that you've shown your true colors, I think we've found some common ground! Doesn't exclusion feel good? Maybe now you can abandon your ludicrous philosophy in favor of something a little less hypocritical... Then you can focus on things like, subjugation, extermination. You've got the hard part down, the rest is easy, I promise... -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.
Jodie Amille Gunship Diplomacy Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.08.12 20:10:00 - [225] Originally by: Secretary Phase Originally by: Jodie Amille In a surprise turn of events: Good luck SF in your efforts against the Amarr What exactly is suprising about getting back on CVA's KOS list after creating an alliance with well known pirates that were KOS pretty much since their existence? Anyway - I would have thought that having been in the militia for so long (and having been KOS to CVA yourself for a long time whilst you were in), you should know better than equating CVA with the Amarr Militia. Therefore your obvious hostility towards the Amarr Militia is quite disappointing to lots of pilots who used to enjoy flying with you - especially as you know from first hand experience that the CVA doesn't give these any support against those whom you wish luck. Best Regards Secretary Phase You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. We were set back to KOS because one of our members pirated someone in CVA space. A week or more after my post thank you very much So yeah, get a clue before you post. --------
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.12 20:21:00 - [226] Originally by: Theophilas Originally by: Jade Constantine We are, problem is you aren't people. haha! Spoken like a true Amarrian! Good show! Now that you've shown your true colors, I think we've found some common ground! Doesn't exclusion feel good? Maybe now you can abandon your ludicrous philosophy in favor of something a little less hypocritical... Then you can focus on things like, subjugation, extermination. You've got the hard part down, the rest is easy, I promise... Please do continue. I would like to hear more about the daily goings on in Amarr space from your perspective I am sure it is very enlightening for others. Heartstone. ---
Theophilas Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.12 20:45:00 - [227] Edited by: Theophilas on 12/08/2009 20:48:11 Edited by: Theophilas on 12/08/2009 20:46:18 Originally by: Heartstone Please do continue. I would like to hear more about the daily goings on in Amarr space from your perspective I am sure it is very enlightening for others. Oh it's endless drudgery trying to keep these cow eyed Minimitar in line. Always with their endless plotting and attempts to escape. One has to be terrible careful not to lose control. You know, the other day, I was thinking of the very old times, when the Ammarians first came to New Eden, well over nineteen hundred years ago. . . darkness was here yesterday. Imagine the feelings of a commander of a fine battleship, ordered suddenly to the furthest outreaches of space, run across Amarrian space in a hurry; put in charge of one of these craft the Amarrian legionaries ù a wonderful lot of handy men they must have been, too ù used to build, apparently by the hundred, in a month or two, if we may believe what we read. Imagine him here ù the very end of the universe, a star the color of lead, clouds the color of smoke, a kind of ship about as rigid as a concertina ù and going through this space with stores, or orders, or what you like. Red giants, black holes, pirates, Minimitar savages, ù precious little to eat fit for a civilized man, nothing but reconstituted urine to drink. No Falernian wine here, no going planet side. Here and there a military post lost in deep space, like a needle in a bundle of hay ù cold, fog, tempests, disease, exile, and death ù death skulking in the air, in the water, in the vastness. They must have been dying like flies. Oh, yes ù he did it. Did it very well, too, no doubt, and without thinking much about it either, except afterwards to brag of what he had gone through in his time, perhaps. They were men enough to face the darkness. And perhaps he was cheered by keeping his eye on a chance of promotion to the fleet at Kamela by and by, if he had good friends in Amarr and survived the awful conditions. Or think of a decent young citizen in a toga ù perhaps too much dice, you know ù coming out here in the train of some prefect, or taxûgatherer, or trader even, to mend his fortunes. Land in space, fly through the gaseous dust clouds, and in some distant post feel the savagery, the utter savagery, had closed round him ù all that mysterious silence of the black space that stirs in the universe, in the stars, in the hearts of wild men. ThereÆs no initiation either into such mysteries. He has to live in the midst of the incomprehensible, which is also detestable. And it has a fascination, too, that goes to work upon him. The fascination of the abominationùyou know, imagine the growing regrets, the longing to escape, the powerless disgust, the surrender, the hate. Mind, none of us would feel exactly like this. What saves us is efficiency ù the devotion to efficiency. But these chaps were not much account, really. They were no colonists; their administration was merely a squeeze, and nothing more, I suspect. They were conquerors, and for that you want only brute force ù nothing to boast of, when you have it, since your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others. They grabbed what they could get for the sake of what was to be got. It was just robbery with violence, aggravated murder on a great scale, and men going at it blind ù as is very proper for those who tackle a darkness. The conquest of space, which mostly means the taking it away from those who have a different complexion or slightly flatter noses than ourselves, is not a pretty thing when you look into it too much. What redeems it is the idea only. An idea at the back of it; not a sentimental pretense but an idea; and an unselfish belief in the ideaùsomething you can set up, and bow down before, and offer a sacrifice to... -------------------------------------------------- No sooner said than done - so acts your man of worth.
Secretary Phase	Posted - 2009.08.12 20:55:00 - [228] Originally by: Jodie Amille You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. We were set back to KOS because one of our members pirated someone in CVA space. A week or more after my post thank you very much So yeah, get a clue before you post. So what? I assumed that must have been the reason for your sudden hostility as I indeed don't have a clue what else may have caused it. Care to enlighten us? Best regards Secretary Phase
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.08.12 21:33:00 - [229] Phase You said "best corp" you may need to say which one :P
Jodie Amille Gunship Diplomacy Double Dutch Rudders	Posted - 2009.08.12 22:00:00 - [230] Originally by: Secretary Phase Originally by: Jodie Amille You, sir, have no idea what you're talking about. We were set back to KOS because one of our members pirated someone in CVA space. A week or more after my post thank you very much So yeah, get a clue before you post. So what? I assumed that must have been the reason for your sudden hostility as I indeed don't have a clue what else may have caused it. Care to enlighten us? Best regards Secretary Phase You're a tad bit special aren't you? I'm pretty sure you're the only one in the entire thread that took that comment seriously --------

Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.13 10:19:00 - [231] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Invelious And the "" was more at the fact that I can't believe how balloon headed you bunch really are, in claiming victory over BoB's demise and in the fact that you actually believe you can change the sov's of 0.0. Invelious take a deep breath and re-read what was written. My point was that the defeat of BoB was in no way a victory for us. Much like the destruction of the DARK POS by NC forces was no victory for the Amarr Militia. The whole basis of my argument was that claiming the third party victory as your own is foolish and used a ridiculous example of the way in which The Star Fraction could make claims if Rodj's parameters for declaring a victory were accepted i.e. that by his logic we can happily claim to have defeated BoB. As anyone with a half functioning brain can see we did not defeat BoB and as an extension of this exploration into the logic of Rodj's claims the Amarr Militia cannot claim responsibility for the destruction of DARK's POS. Heartstone. A story: A lumberjack walks into a forest with the intention of cutting down a tree. He takes his axe, and has chopped about half-way through a tree when a storm blows up. He leaves the area. While he is away, the storm blows down a single tree - the one the lumberjack had started to fell. The other trees survived because they had not been damaged by an axe. Now, what caused the tree to fall - was it the lumberjack or was it the storm? We could argue back and forth for ages, but the truth is that the lumberjack isn't bothered - he has his lumber. Of course, the discussion of whether it was the NC or the militia that destroyed the Dark-Rising POS is missing the point somewhat. Let's leave the story and rewind a bit. Jade claimed that the militia lacked the ability to initiate an attack on a POS. I pointed out that the militia had done just that very recently. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.13 10:56:00 - [232] Originally by: "Rodj Blake" A lumberjack walks into a forest with the intention of cutting down a tree. He takes his axe, and has chopped about half-way through a tree when a storm blows up. He leaves the area. While he is away, the storm blows down a single tree - the one the lumberjack had started to fell. The other trees survived because they had not been damaged by an axe. Now, what caused the tree to fall - was it the lumberjack or was it the storm? We could argue back and forth for ages, but the truth is that the lumberjack isn't bothered - he has his lumber. An interesting tale. One to remember, I think. I shall not enter into the debate on the POS as I personally take a pragmatic view of such things. However, I would reflect that if the pragmatic view is to be accepted with regard to a given desired effect operating to the favour and credit of a party that desired it and was involved in the chain of causation, however the effect finally came about, it may be that this will have to be accepted more generally. More pithily, an ancient proverb concerning domesticated fowl and cooking sauce comes to mind. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:12:00 - [233] Originally by: Rodj Blake Jade claimed that the militia lacked the ability to initiate an attack on a POS. I pointed out that the militia had done just that very recently. Initiating is not the same as completing an attack (though good work on your delicate evasions). I do not believe the 24th Crusade has the ability to destroy a POS without significant outside help (CVA or NC or whoever). But its pointless discussing such things in the hypothetical. Either you do or you don't. TIme will tell from actions in space. This line of discussion began because you tried to claim that a particular POS is not an operational priority for your organization. From your perspective its certainly less damaging for your morale to claim that than admit the truth on a public channel that its beyond your current capabilities so I trust everyone can see why you have to say what you said regardless of the reality behind the words. 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:20:00 - [234] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/08/2009 11:22:28 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake Jade claimed that the militia lacked the ability to initiate an attack on a POS. I pointed out that the militia had done just that very recently. Initiating is not the same as completing an attack (though good work on your delicate evasions). I do not believe the 24th Crusade has the ability to destroy a POS without significant outside help (CVA or NC or whoever). None of which alters ther fact that you claimed that the militia was incapable of initiating a POS attack. Quote: But its pointless discussing such things in the hypothetical. Either you do or you don't. TIme will tell from actions in space. This line of discussion began because you tried to claim that a particular POS is not an operational priority for your organization. From your perspective its certainly less damaging for your morale to claim that than admit the truth on a public channel that its beyond your current capabilities so I trust everyone can see why you have to say what you said regardless of the reality behind the words. If we were scared of launching an attack on an SF POS, would it not also follow that we were also scared of launching an attack on a POS owned by a better organised group such as Dark-Rising? The fact is that it took more effort to arrange the attack on Taff than it would have done to attack the Kamela POS, so it surely follows that fear or inability are not the reasons we've let it sit there? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:39:00 - [235] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 13/08/2009 11:40:19 Originally by: Rodj Blake ... so it surely follows that fear or inability are not the reasons we've let it sit there? I'm not convinced. But really why would I be? Time has shown our personalities quite distinctly different Blake. You think to argue and debate and persuade and connive and wheedle on IGS threads to convince your enemies that the sky is black and the sea is lime green. I prefer to demonstrate that my enemies are losing by actually destroying them in space. Its very simple. I don't think you have the current capability to destroy the Kamela staging POS. You can prove me wrong by destroying it. It really is that simple. I don't care what your reasons are for not attacking it. If you can't destroy it thats good enough for me. 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:41:00 - [236] Difference between you and the lumberjack is, he got his lumber. You did not get your PoS loot.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:47:00 - [237] Originally by: ChipMo Difference between you and the lumberjack is, he got his lumber. You did not get your PoS loot. And to continue the analogy the lumberjack's cousin (who came to help cut down the tree with a dreadnaught) was too slow to run away when the storm arrived and got struck dead by lightning also leading to a fairly costly day for the family all round 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:51:00 - [238] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 13/08/2009 11:51:24 Originally by: Jade Constantine I don't care what your reasons are for not attacking it. If you can't destroy it thats good enough for me. * The Cosmopolite chuckles... One is immediately reminded of the lumberjack tale. The variant here is that the lumberjack is apparently disinclined to even attempt to chop down a particular tree. The lumberjack tells himself and his drinking cronies that he doesn't want the lumber from that particular tree. Others wonder if the real reason is that the lumberjack isn't strong enough to fell this tree on his own. The question is an open one. The tree, meanwhile, insofar as such a thing can be said of a tree, remains content to drink in the sunshine and extend its roots in the surrounding soil. You know, Jade, I sometimes think that the central plank of Amarrian paramilitary propaganda against the Star Fraction has for so long been that we are 'irrelevant' that it now actually, and very amusingly, dictates Amarrian paramilitary strategy in space. The irony of this is exquisite and quite delightful. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:54:00 - [239] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/08/2009 11:55:49 Originally by: Jade Constantine I'm not convinced. But really why would I be? Time has shown our personalities quite distinctly different Blake. You think to argue and debate and persuade and connive and wheedle on IGS threads to convince your enemies that the sky is black and the sea is lime green. I prefer to demonstrate that my enemies are losing by actually destroying them in space. How many times is it over the last six years that you've declared war on PIE? I lost count a while back. And you've still not managed to destroy us. You've not even managed to divert us from any of our tasks. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.13 11:55:00 - [240] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 13/08/2009 11:51:24 Originally by: Jade Constantine I don't care what your reasons are for not attacking it. If you can't destroy it thats good enough for me. * The Cosmopolite chuckles... One is immediately reminded of the lumberjack tale. The variant here is that the lumberjack is apparently disinclined to even attempt to chop down a particular tree. The lumberjack tells himself and his drinking cronies that he doesn't want the lumber from that particular tree. Others wonder if the real reason is that the lumberjack isn't strong enough to fell this tree on his own. The question is an open one. The tree, meanwhile, insofar as such a thing can be said of a tree, remains content to drink in the sunshine and extend its roots in the surrounding soil. To take things further, the lumberjack then goes and chops down a larger tree. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.



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