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Trebor Notlimah Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2009.05.04 03:30:00 - [1] They are crap. I remember when you found a faction spawn it was a major payday. Now its garbage sauce. Am I just the most unlucky f*er in the game or what?
Tasmanian Devil	Posted - 2009.05.04 03:32:00 - [2] Rat rat rat rat rat Faction spawn. Woot a faction em hardener and some faction iron. What a pay day. No you are not alone.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.04 03:46:00 - [3] Completely depends on where you are ratting it seems. Killed a 375k Arch Angel cruiser spawn and nabbed a nice Domination point with some decent meta 4 items then a couple of days later found the same spawn type and got a Domi 10mn and some mixed meta 4 items, faction ammo and a tag. I'd say the best odds right now are in the .1 and .2 systems of the faction your after since ccp wants people in low sec. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Morikai Acler Caldari Demon Theory Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:55:00 - [4] I think I've got you beat on the bad luck dude. more like rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat......... Oh a Dread guri 12m bounty bs. Loot = Dread Gurista's Lead ammo, and Dread gurista's brass tag, and meta level 2 and 3 randoms. And thats been pretty much every DG spawn I've killed. Seemed I had much better luck with True Sansha though.
Lysis Kleio	Posted - 2009.05.04 04:55:00 - [5] Lowsec??? Been ratting in venal for months and faction spawns drop utter crap. Faction EM hardener you say? I'd take that right now. All you get these days is tag and ammo and crap T1 stuff. It didn't always used to be like this, sometime in the last few months, 0.0 ratting's been nerfed. But there's always the lucky few who will beg to differ.
dankness420	Posted - 2009.05.04 05:21:00 - [6] i have found a bunch of hauler and faction spawns, all which have dropped something decent what are you guys ratting? angels?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.04 05:54:00 - [7] Originally by: Lysis Kleio Lowsec??? Been ratting in venal for months and faction spawns drop utter crap. Faction EM hardener you say? I'd take that right now. All you get these days is tag and ammo and crap T1 stuff. It didn't always used to be like this, sometime in the last few months, 0.0 ratting's been nerfed. But there's always the lucky few who will beg to differ. Go to a .1 system with lots of belts and boggle at the number of bs and bc spawns with uber salvage and faction spawns with actual faction loot. 700~950k bs and triple 175k bc spawns all over the place. The more numerous .2 is almost as good but the bs tend to be around 500k and good faction much much rarer. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
big miker Minmatar Order of Anarchy	Posted - 2009.05.04 08:24:00 - [8] Edited by: big miker on 04/05/2009 08:24:56 Think i've had 26 true sansha spawns in the sansha controlled region Stain... Ratting paradise, oh well, they didn't made me rich. Best thing dropped once was a slave epsilon. Only happened once either . Edit: Sansha 0.0 plex's are **** aswell.( bugged? ) l0w-sec / high-sec plex's dropped even more
ISHKUR MASTER Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 08:47:00 - [9] Hmmmm, When I bother, in the last few weeks, 0.8 system, Crystals, Hardwirings 3% good ones, some ammo (meh), some BPC, not bad, so it seems entirely random, Overall pay, from about maybe 2 hrs in space total, 500KK+
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.05.04 08:54:00 - [10] Originally by: ISHKUR MASTER Hmmmm, When I bother, in the last few weeks, 0.8 system, Crystals, Hardwirings 3% good ones, some ammo (meh), some BPC, not bad, so it seems entirely random, Overall pay, from about maybe 2 hrs in space total, 500KK+ This is plausible as a story but must involve an insane amount of luck. I've never received implants or bpcs from high sec faction drops. I've only gotten maybe three LG snakes and two or three POS component prints in total, and the plants were all in low sec and the BPs were in nullsec. What is 500KK btw? Five million?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:06:00 - [11] Wait. I though rats only started in .7 and below systems. Originally by: Achar Losa i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Zeba Wait. I though rats only started in .7 and below systems. .8 and below.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Originally by: ISHKUR MASTER Hmmmm, When I bother, in the last few weeks, 0.8 system, Crystals, Hardwirings 3% good ones, some ammo (meh), some BPC, not bad, so it seems entirely random, Overall pay, from about maybe 2 hrs in space total, 500KK+ This is plausible as a story but must involve an insane amount of luck. I've never received implants or bpcs from high sec faction drops. I've only gotten maybe three LG snakes and two or three POS component prints in total, and the plants were all in low sec and the BPs were in nullsec. What is 500KK btw? Five million? I have got 3 low grade faction implants while mining in a 0.5 system and some module worth 5-25 millions from something like 10 faction spawns. Exploration give some stuff too, but it is mostly luck based, plenty of low worth named modules with the occasional gem mixed with the garbage.
ISHKUR MASTER Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.04 09:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Originally by: ISHKUR MASTER Hmmmm, When I bother, in the last few weeks, 0.8 system, Crystals, Hardwirings 3% good ones, some ammo (meh), some BPC, not bad, so it seems entirely random, Overall pay, from about maybe 2 hrs in space total, 500KK+ This is plausible as a story but must involve an insane amount of luck. I've never received implants or bpcs from high sec faction drops. I've only gotten maybe three LG snakes and two or three POS component prints in total, and the plants were all in low sec and the BPs were in nullsec. What is 500KK btw? Five million? And Luck good Sir is definitely how I feel, everytime I get one. Maybe it's because I aint grinding specifically for them. Once I used to grind a 0.5 system hoping to get one, before they nerfed the loot tables, then I gave up, these ones mentioned above are in the last few weeks, so luck is it, and my wallet has no complaints.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.04 10:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Morikai Acler I think I've got you beat on the bad luck dude. more like rat rat rat rat rat rat rat rat......... Oh a Dread guri 12m bounty bs. Loot = Dread Gurista's Lead ammo, and Dread gurista's brass tag, and meta level 2 and 3 randoms. And thats been pretty much every DG spawn I've killed. Seemed I had much better luck with True Sansha though. Enjoy the ratting, you can keep it. ^_^
CommmanderInChief Comply Or Die	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:19:00 - [16] All loots drops are crap now have been for a long time. Faction spawns in low sec also give nothing just crappy ammo. CCP want you to explore the game to find the treasure, like exploration sites and Wormholes. Sadly these are just as crap also..
Jitasuperyrader	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:21:00 - [17] From my experience the faction battleship drop crapper loot than the faction cruisers. It goes officer>cruiser>battelcruiser>frig/bs. So if you hunt them in 0.1 to 0.4 you will find lots of frigs/cruisers. But then i think its mainly luck, just yesterday i had a Ts plague lord drop hardner, neut battery, plating. However to improve the problem they need to stop faction ammo counting as the one faction item. As every faction spawn WILL drop 1 tag and 1 faction named item. It just sucks when its ammo, or a **ty reflective plating. Also from my experience the faction spawns in anomalies and exploration plexs (not DED rated) drop better loot. In direct conflict with that the DED rated plexs have started to drop ** again. For example in the past month we have run 6/10 sansha 10 or so times, and not go a decent drop. Done the 10/10 a few times and not got anything great either. I remember the good old days of nightmare bpc's and centus reps. And dont get me started on officers. First four officers i had got me the grand total of a vizan energized reflective plate. But yeah i would love ccp to come up with something new for the loot tables, oh and faction frigs in 0.0!
ZenSun Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:41:00 - [18] Yeh, I want faction crokite! GIZ, GIZ GIZ! Please resize sig to a file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:43:00 - [19] I've gotten faction bs bpc from rats, but yes usually its crap.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.05.04 11:50:00 - [20] You realize. There are faction spawns in level 4 missions that can be farmed. From multiple agents per day. For loads of people. Worlds Collide for example will give you depending which region you are in. Dark Blood, True Sansha, Shadow Serp, and Dread Gurista. At least. Domination I suspect is also possible in minnie space. Add on top of that. Plexers in highsec can get faction spawns which do spawn the more common faction items. That's the supply. Add in demand... T2 hardeners for example are often the same as or better then faction hardeners. At best the hardeners for example provide better fitting or cap usage? Often not being an issue to justify having to goto contracts and search for close by faction items. Not to mention. It costs the same tax it does for setting something to 3 months on the market as it does for 2 weeks on contracts. Will your product sell in time? Probably not. So there's loads of supply sitting around because people wont be hassled to contract such low value items. Also often being an added annoyance because u often want to sell individually on contracts. While market can be mass 1 order. So faction spawns are just bad to get. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Calhontor	Posted - 2009.05.04 12:38:00 - [21] I agree with the op. Is it just me or has the amount of faction spawns in 0.0 declined somewhat. I was recently in delve huntin Dark Blood and after 3 or so weeks of huntin i foun 2 BC's and a BS all of which dropped crap. I actually head to delve once a year to hunt Dark blood and i normally find a lot and come home with alot of faction loot but this time i got nothing so prolly wont bother again.
Vladimmire	Posted - 2009.06.10 14:35:00 - [22] I know this thread is a little necro, but thought I'd give my recent observations. I mainly do hi sec combat and radar, and low sec radar/mag. The hi sec actually pay pretty well. I've gotten tons of LG Slave implants, a faction tower bpc I sold for 240MM from a .8 system, succubus bpc, multiple faction pos battery bpcs, centii A-type adaptive nano's worth 100MM, etc. It can definitely be hit or miss, with long strings of time in between good spawns, but its good money. Null sec wise, our CEO recently wanted us to do a deep 0.0 asset denial exercise so he closed his eyes and stabbed the map and Paragon Soul it was. Let me tell you about this place. 1) Unbelievable amounts of combat/radar/mag sites. I'd find 20-35 cosmic anomalies, 2-3 radar, couple of mag and at least 3 combat sites in almost every system. This is not exaggerating. 2) I think due to the war in delve, etc, there were hardly any real people here. We'd find the odd 2-3 people in an out post system, but that was about it. 3) A TON of macro ratters and miners. One system with an ice belt had 40 mackinaws in it that would all logoffski with in 5 seconds of any of us entering system. There were about 15 systems that had macro ratters in them. We had one guy who spent hours getting the timing down on exactly how long their respawn from cloak would be. We killed a decent amount of them from a combination of his data and throwing some bubbles in the belts they were last seen in. 4) Several of us that were approaching the maximum corp allowed sec status of -2 spent some time ratting for sec. I alone had 5 TS spawns in the limited amount of time I spent that week playing. Best drop was a HG Slave Epsilon, but most of the rest was just TS PDS, hardeners, etc, so not that valuable. Most of the other guys ended up with at least 3 faction spawn. Will say that a lot of these systems had pretty good true sec for ratting. I mention the Paragon Soul experience to show how I'd rather do hi/low sec exploration any day than rat in null sec. The amazing amount of exploration sites there is another story. One good tactic I picked up in all this is to run a cov ops deep into 0.0 past all the bubble camps and find a nice dead constellation. Probe out a WH that leads back to hi sec and go pick up a cloaky transport and a combat ship. Come back through and explore/rat all you want. Just probe out a new WH when ever you want to leave. Use the transport with a cloak/probe launcher/grav rigs and fill it with ammo/drones and replace with loot. Profit.

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