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MeigsYan Caldari Black Out Horizons	Posted - 2009.05.05 19:21:00 - [1] Edited by: MeigsYan on 05/05/2009 19:21:39 I know that T3 ships are modular, which would be nice to have, but aside from that, are they impressive in any way? Master of the (Orca Class) Deep Space Exploration And Mining Vessel "Long Shot"
Venuolius	Posted - 2009.05.05 19:31:00 - [2] They make for impressive killmails ... other than that there just not enough bang for your buck
MalVortex Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.05 19:43:00 - [3] Some proteus setups are beyond ******ed OP, but by and large T3 ships are just really expensive HACs or command ships, depending how you look at it. Even if their prices came down to the T2 cruiser/BC range, most fits don't offer enough over their T2 counterpart to be worthwhile. If some bonus and slot layout modifications are made I could see them working as a mobile CS, but who knows what CCP is thinking with their balancing.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.05 20:15:00 - [4] When they fall to 300mil they will be impressive. Atm the only good value for money you can get is the covert ops cloak and anti-bubble features.
Renesis Maximus	Posted - 2009.05.05 20:20:00 - [5] Originally by: TimMc When they fall to 300mil they will be impressive. Atm the only good value for money you can get is the covert ops cloak and anti-bubble features. And even that makes them nothing more than glorified shuttles.
Sera Ryskin	Posted - 2009.05.05 20:47:00 - [6] Originally by: TimMc When they fall to 300mil they will be impressive. This. Besides the cost, they are awesome, and borderline overpowered. Once the cost comes down (CCP has stated an intended price of around 300 mil), they will be extremely effective ships when used correctly. ========== Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.05 21:08:00 - [7] Some of the fits you can create are ridiculous.. think 50-100k EHP with resists all in the high 70s to low 90s, plus CovOps cloak and an Expanded Probe Launcher. They seem like the ultimate solo ship for PvP, but then again they are (currently) ridiculously expensive. PvE I don't think they offer enough bang-for-buck.
Wongdong Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.05 23:10:00 - [8] well once my skills for them are up to par,i hope they are a lotta bit cheaper,if so i'll be in one,if not then ive got a pretty impressive(expensive) skill set! Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". i Yarrred your sig Xanos Blackpaw Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking
Lady Aja Caldari REUNITED WARRIORS PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.05.06 05:15:00 - [9] give or take 500m isk... they are not worth 2b isk each. commandships are better by far.
Hiroshima Jita	Posted - 2009.05.06 05:53:00 - [10] Give it another couple months, and then if the price isn't on the way to becoming vaguely close to reasonable call them phail ships.
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.05.06 06:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Hiroshima Jita Give it another couple months, and then if the price isn't on the way to becoming vaguely close to reasonable call them phail ships. we dont call them phail, we call them "special"
Valeronx Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.05.06 06:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Lady Aja commandships are better by far. I agree about the price Aja, but Command Ships are based on Battlecruiser hulls, the T-3 ships are Cruiser sized ships. I'm hoping that the T-3 ships will fill the role between the plain T-1 Cruisers, and the T-2 ships based on Cruiser hulls. They won't be as good in a specific role as a T-2 cruiser hulled ship, but will gain from the flexible setups the different sections allow. .
Imaos	Posted - 2009.05.06 06:50:00 - [13] Originally by: Lady Aja give or take 500m isk... they are not worth 2b isk each. tier2 battlecruiser are better by far. Would accept hacs, bur t2 bcs are overshadowed by t1 tier2. Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Perry Amarr The X-Trading Company RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.06 07:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Valeronx I'm hoping that the T-3 ships will fill the role between the plain T-1 Cruisers, and the T-2 ships based on Cruiser hulls. They won't be as good in a specific role as a T-2 cruiser hulled ship, but will gain from the flexible setups the different sections allow. So if you had to choose between a) 100mio isk Sniper Hac AND 100mio isk EW Recon or b) 300mio isk flexible but not as powerful lego ship no matter what subsystems you choose, you would pay 100mio Isk extra? For what? The "flexible" argument does not count; for the same price i could buy multiple and powerful T2 Cruisers to choose from. T3 as "T1,5" is fail, no matter what flawed view of gameplay we create. Ingame i choose the cheapest and most powerful tool for the job, not the expensive and "flexible" mediocre epeen extension.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.05.06 07:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Perry Originally by: Valeronx I'm hoping that the T-3 ships will fill the role between the plain T-1 Cruisers, and the T-2 ships based on Cruiser hulls. They won't be as good in a specific role as a T-2 cruiser hulled ship, but will gain from the flexible setups the different sections allow. So if you had to choose between a) 100mio isk Sniper Hac AND 100mio isk EW Recon or b) 300mio isk flexible but not as powerful lego ship no matter what subsystems you choose, you would pay 100mio Isk extra? For what? The "flexible" argument does not count; for the same price i could buy multiple and powerful T2 Cruisers to choose from. T3 as "T1,5" is fail, no matter what flawed view of gameplay we create. Ingame i choose the cheapest and most powerful tool for the job, not the expensive and "flexible" mediocre epeen extension. Remember, not everything in EVE is large fleets. T3 ships are awesome for situations where your limiting factor is the number of pilots you can bring to the fight. The recon + HAC pair may be awesome in a 50-man roaming gang, but in a 2-3 man gang (or even solo!) you'll be very thankful you have the T3 ships. -----------
E Vile	Posted - 2009.05.06 11:32:00 - [16] Even with ship prices slowley dropping, Subsystems are so insanely overpriced. It's like buying the ship 5 times over. No way are T3 worth half the overall price it costs to fly one. Maybe someday prices will come down to reality. Until then T3 are nothing more then a primary for hungry pilots
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2009.05.06 12:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Imaos Originally by: Lady Aja give or take 500m isk... they are not worth 2b isk each. tier2 battlecruiser are better by far. Would accept hacs, bur t2 bcs are overshadowed by t1 tier2. Imaos Try to dual an Astarte with a Myrmidon.
DHB WildCat D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.05.06 14:27:00 - [18] This thread just proves my point that people are idiots.... cannot fit ships outside eft, and that my choice to go into T3 was one of the best I've ever made! WildCat
Aesheera Amarr The Voyage of the beagle	Posted - 2009.05.06 15:08:00 - [19] Edited by: Aesheera on 06/05/2009 15:17:36 Originally by: DHB WildCat This thread just proves my point that people are idiots.... cannot fit ships outside eft, and that my choice to go into T3 was one of the best I've ever made! WildCat Signed for truth. I agree with Wildcat. Proud owner of a Legion and Proteus and these ships with the proper subs and fits are mental. Anyone claiming these suck are clueless beyond belief. No other shipclass currently ingame has the versatility these babies provide and they sport impressive tanks and/or dps. These ships can be reformed and rebuilt to take aspects of several ship abilities and merge it into one hull. As stated before, for small gangs, baby fleets, these puppies shine. Surely not for everyone due to hefty pricetags, but ISK matters aside: for a Cruiser class vessel NOTHING even so much as comes close to having their strengths. I have yet to run a test with either versus a 'regular' T1 or T2 ship of any size bar Caps that can beat them in a 1 on 1 situation. Heck even 2 on 1 is doable in several situations. If you got the insights to fit them well ßnd fly them properly you are gonna wish you had one earlier. O and I chuckled at the noob saying CS are better by far. A mere CS gets wtfpwned by a Strat Cruiser. Care to come try it? Better insure your prized possession, because you will die, and quite painfully. /rant off. -- Project Damage. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Aesheera O and I chuckled at the noob saying CS are better by far. A mere CS gets wtfpwned by a Strat Cruiser. Care to come try it? Better insure your prized possession, because you will die, and quite painfully. /rant off. Yes, because we all know Command Ship pilots roam solo frequently and because solo PvP hasn't been smacked, rolled, doused, ignited, and basted in nerfbat juice for more than twelve months now repeatedly patch after patch. Solo PvP = hit and run on ratters, mission runners, and noob haulers You don't need 2bil worth of ship to kill sheep. Bragging about it is even worse. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Aesheera Amarr The Voyage of the beagle	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:37:00 - [21] Edited by: Aesheera on 06/05/2009 16:37:57 O look another ****ed post. You should be trolling the idiot stating CS are far better. I merely stated the obvious. And if he wishes to deny it, ill give him the chance to prove it. Idiot. -- Project Damage**. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Aesheera O look another *****ed post. You should be trolling the idiot stating CS are far better. I merely stated the obvious. And if he wishes to deny it, ill give him the chance to prove it. A carrier can destroy a T1 cruiser, therefore all those who roam solo in T1 cruisers should instead choose carriers. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}*
AnKahn Caldari The Giant Squid Corp.	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:48:00 - [23] Cap ship priced cruisers better not stray too far from a lot of friends. Also, as the prices come down they will be nerfed so its not another season like the nano***gery that had everyone playing other games. (i.e Vagabond online) WTFsolopwnmobiles will not be tolerated. The Stealthbomber was a brilliant addition to the game because it CANNOT solo and it nerfs solo BS. You kind of see where CCP is going?
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:56:00 - [24] Originally by: AnKahn Cap ship priced cruisers better not stray too far from a lot of friends. Also, as the prices come down they will be nerfed so its not another season like the nano**gery that had everyone playing other games. (i.e Vagabond online) WTFsolopwnmobiles will not be tolerated. The Stealthbomber was a brilliant addition to the game because it CANNOT solo and it nerfs solo BS. You kind of see where CCP is going? Yes, it is unfortunate that the game is not big enough to fit both solo and gang related combat. Or at least, CCP is not willing to make it their primary initiative to do so. I have heard arguments that range from wanting to encourage more subs by killing solo combat, to making what would have been solo players roll new accounts so they can continue to solo* with themselves. But, obviously Aes is stuck in their own little world of denial. It would fit right in with the WoW crowd, dancing around the outside of the main cities, having spent hundreds of hours acquiring every PvP purple set in the game, picking a duel with some rube in blues and greens, then dancing around and cheering themselves when they smash someone with half their strength and gear that is sub par on a good day. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Aesheera Amarr The Voyage of the beagle	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:56:00 - [25] Adapt or die. -- Project Damage. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me.
Aesheera Amarr The Voyage of the beagle	Posted - 2009.05.06 16:58:00 - [26] Originally by: Mendolus [ Yet another clueless assumption. Youre clueless. You may think what you think, youre straying far off the point that i made. Perhaps reading isnt your strongest point. -- Project Damage. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.06 17:00:00 - [27] Edited by: Mendolus on 06/05/2009 17:01:38 Originally by: Aesheera Originally by: Mendolus [ Yet another clueless assumption. Youre clueless. You may think what you think, youre straying far off the point that i made. Perhaps reading isnt your strongest point. Perhaps you overcompensate for your shortcomings with delusions of grandeur and superiority. Whether a single ship can destroy another single ship in a game like EVE proves nothing other than you are superficial and naive. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Aesheera Amarr The Voyage of the beagle	Posted - 2009.05.06 17:02:00 - [28] Which would be? Agreeing with wildcat? Flying a T3 cruiser? Solo roaming in it? If you cant handle a simple stated fact that a cs is inferior to a t3 cruiser with vanilla fit, you need to have your head checked. troll. -- Project Damage. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.05.06 17:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Aesheera Which would be? Agreeing with wildcat? Flying a T3 cruiser? Solo roaming in it? If you cant handle a simple stated fact that a cs is inferior to a t3 cruiser with vanilla fit, you need to have your head checked. troll. A Strategic Cruiser can solo a Command Ship, what's the point again? {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Aesheera Amarr The Voyage of the beagle	Posted - 2009.05.06 17:04:00 - [30] Edited by: Aesheera on 06/05/2009 17:06:02 Originally by: Lady Aja give or take 500m isk... they are not worth 2b isk each. commandships are better by far. Originally by: Aesheera O and I chuckled at the noob saying CS are better by far. A mere CS gets wtfpwned by a Strat Cruiser. Care to come try it? Your input: You don't need 2bil worth of ship to kill sheep. Bragging about it is even worse. I responded with a fact to a person who doesnt have his facts straight. You surely do miss the point of my statement do you? -- Project Damage. Running missions the improved way. Curious? Contact me.

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