I'll show you MY venus. Too late to back-pedal.

Maybe you should get some ****-traps instead of spreading your butt-cheeks for ISK 24/7.

While we're nerfing Local, can we make the directional scanner a bit less annoying to use, or maybe incorporate it better into the UI somehow? No Local is all well and good, but hitting that button over and over is a pain and shouldn't be necessary.

Maybe if the current directional scanner was split into two bits so that we had both a repeating scanner and the existing thing, so we retain the existing functionality alongside a much more convenient configurable system that can operate without us having to whack that button every couple of seconds forever.

Put the fun back in EVE guys. Nerf local. Please. It's only about 9 years overdue FFS.

Oh, and if any of you so called "PVP'rs" who are just a bunch of whiney high-sec haters argue against this, well, you're just showing your true carebear colors. I'd LOVE to PVP without local. It's almost a wet dream of mine. And if you doubt me, well, this is my main and you can go check my record - I probably have more kills than you.

God you dimwit, not everyone wants an adrenaline rush just after dinner before bed or w/e and when ever they play. The point about manlyness lol these days a person who can think their way out of a wet paper bag is more manly than a dude who just said someone who pvps people who dont want to fight is more manly than someone who doesnt care enough to? Oops..edit...some people arent very manly coz they have different body parts and are from venus.

Who has ever claimed that mining is PvP?
You, Sir, are a moron.

I PvP Hi, Lo, and Null. My balls are bigger than most of the Gankers. I actually attack ships that can Fight back. In areas that is riskier than Hi sec, and first and foremost, I'm a miner.


vOv

Good job at pulling things out of context. If you were not such a dimwit yourself, you would have understood that the term "manly" was used as a counterpart to the previously used term "vagina". Not everyone wants to get up at 7 in the morning for a nine to five job, but we still do it because we want the money. Risk and reward. Not reward reward.

Technically it is. After all, you are contributing with minerals used to build ships for PvP.. But that was not my point. My point was that someone who does not PvP should keep their mouth shut about what is PvP and what is not.

You Sir, are a truly gifted individual.


So why don't you use one of your PvP toons to hone your big balls and guard your 'sparring?

No, technically mining is not in any form or shape PvP. Unless you mine in order to roll down the passenger window of your ship, and chuck the nuggets of ore at opposing players' ships.

No, technically mining is not in any form or shape PvP. Unless you mine in order to roll down the passenger window of your ship, and chuck the nuggets of ore at opposing players' ships.

If you really want to grief botters, then convo ws26 and ask him how he did this.


Hahaha just kidding of course, AAA Citizens has a zero tolerance policy for botting, and those 5 Tengus and 2 Noctis all just happened to go AFK in the same place at the same time. It's a playstyle thing. Truly!

You are competing against other players for the finite resources and when you sell them on the market. Hence PvP.

What do you think the minerals are used for? Build Disneyland?

You are competing against other players for the finite resources and when you sell them on the market. Hence PvP.

So why don't you use one of your PvP toons to hone your big balls and guard your 'sparring?

If you really want to grief botters, afk'rs, industrialists and miners,...

Saying that it is technically PvP because the materials are used to build ships that may or may not be used in PvP is like saying going to work is technically going to war because the taxes off your salary goes to the state, which maintains the armed forces which may or may not be involved in armed conflict.

MMO's have mining and competing against others for profits etc, PVP is players vrs players directly not indirectly.

Come on its bad enough pointing out the finer points of things let alone the blatantly obvious.

That is a bit far-fetched. Afaik, there is no 3rd World War at the moment. You take my argument and stretch it out beyond the implausible. If my tax-money are used to found various wars, I do not have any direct knowledge about it, and I certainly got no way to prevent it. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you miners know that the ships you are supplying are used for PvP.

That is a bit far-fetched. Afaik, there is no 3rd World War at the moment. You take my argument and stretch it out beyond the implausible. If my tax-money are used to found various wars, I do not have any direct knowledge about it, and I certainly got no way to prevent it. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you miners know that the ships you are supplying are used for PvP.

Why? Can you see a Mining boat loss on my KB? Your attempt at a retort falls flat. Even with this toon. A miner I must add. Has a far better Balls enhancement KB, than most gankers.

The majority of gankers are jumping onto the bandwagon, for easy kills. Gutless wanabe's. FOTM is you will.



vOv

*face palm* you have no context. Context is used to define a meaning. You started with being meaningless so your going to fail.

I do. It's just your stupid ass that can not see it.

No, technically mining is not in any form or shape PvP.

• Warp to asteroid collection
• Target asteroids that someone else is mining
• Abort cycles before completion, extracting ore before the other miner
• Pop rocks before other miner completes a cycle

Is that not PvP? My actions have an adverse impact on the other player's in-game state. There is also the option of logging in immediately after downtime and clearing out all the belts. This is PvP, even if time shifted by up to 23 hours. This is PvP.

• Warp to asteroid collection
• Target asteroids that someone else is mining
• Abort cycles before completion, extracting ore before the other miner
• Pop rocks before other miner completes a cycle

Is that not PvP? My actions have an adverse impact on the other player's in-game state. There is also the option of logging in immediately after downtime and clearing out all the belts. This is PvP, even if time shifted by up to 23 hours. This is PvP.

Thank you, I would take that to mean my ass isnt big enough to look forward.

Again not directly otherwise....god how obvious....all games would be called pvp games and not MMOG's. PVP is just a specific style of play not an all encompassing framework.

• Warp to asteroid collection
• Target asteroids that someone else is mining
• Abort cycles before completion, extracting ore before the other miner
• Pop rocks before other miner completes a cycle

Is that not PvP? My actions have an adverse impact on the other player's in-game state. There is also the option of logging in immediately after downtime and clearing out all the belts. This is PvP, even if time shifted by up to 23 hours. This is PvP.

Again not directly otherwise....god how obvious....all games would be called pvp games and not MMOG's. PVP is just a specific style of play not an all encompassing framework.

If you want to change the meaning and the commonly accepted idea behind PVP or MMO's or w/e I believe you need to talk to someone a bit further up the chain than us mere forum browsers.

Don't you see? EVERYTHING is PvP!

If you buy anything on the Market your ISK may or may not go to some rascal who uses it for PvP! Ergo, using the Market is PvP!