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cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers
Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:51:00 -
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You have to be shitting me? They are really going to make tracking disruptors affect missiles? That makes so little sense!
Does anyone have a link to that?
The problem is missiles allready have no tracking boost modules. Only rigs. Even then only HALF of the missile "tracking boosting" rigs work on only half of the missiles available.
There is no omni boost module for missiles for either the mid slots or low slots.
Missiles are allready underpower as they are. This will litterally kill missiles for pvp.
Note - Personally I stopped using missiles in pvp years ago but I am voicing my concern.
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Rhealee
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:51:00 -
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For your target painter counter they make boosters and halos. Although i cant think of specific module. I think tracking disruptors effecting missiles was a bad choice. They should have just fixed the defender missiles. Thats your counter for missiles not tracking disruptors. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:08:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Put a neut on a Tengu and it is game over for the Tengu. WTB neut with 100+ km range.
Sniper curse with one faction heavy neut can hit up to 88k. Get a prober to get you a warp in at 50 and you'll be good. You'll probably insta-cap him with the heavy from the curse, turning off all his cap dependent mods. Let your fleet do the rest of the work. |
Jta Grl
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:44:00 -
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How will it affect missiles? Will missiles stop hitting every time? Its a really radical change.
I am pro to missile ECM though. Maybe tracking disruptors can reduce missile velocity or flight time? That would be cool. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:45:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:56:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:
That's just a small drawback when you get:
- Longest range (At longest ranges targets can warp out before volleys hit)
- You don't need capacitor to launch missiles (projectiles don't require cap)
- You always hit when in range (some ships can outrun missiles)
- No tracking issues (instead the targets speed negates damage regardless of direction. A target moving at 1km/s strait at you has 0 trans and as such doesn't reduce turret DPS, but a missile in the same situation would have it's damage significantly reduced. There is also the issue of explosion radius vs. target sig radius)
- Only weapon system in game with pure damage types (This is true, but several hulls only have bonuses to one of those types)
... And so on.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:59:00 -
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I can see an argument for the Tracking Disruption module being countered (when discussion missiles) by Target Painters, Missile Rigs, and Webs... at longer ranges now the new Webbing drones (that might actually catch something).
However I do think that tracking computers and the like should affect missiles as well.
It only makes sense, and missiles are a bit too situational (unless you have swarms of missile ships available) for my taste (Tengu aside, which needs to be adjusted seperately.)
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Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:02:00 -
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Sentinels will be unbeatable in frigate level pvp |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:08:00 -
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When this goes into effect, please;
- Remove the stupid "guided" and "unguided" differentiation, making my skills useless om some missiles
- Allow me to increase transversal/tracking for missiles by maneuvering my ship
- Change all the kinetic only dmg bonuses on the Caldari ships
- Stop being lazy and give the missile T2 ammo the same love the T2 gun ammo did
- Give me some missile tracking mods and stop herp derping about the painters, rigs and webs that are mandatory in order to apply non lolDamage at the moment
and so on and so on... 
But most importantly, roll back the changes and stick to your guns on the statements about "different weapon systems being different".
God knows it's been used long enough to justify the missile drawbacks, and now all of the sudden a weapon system with no tracking mechanic; is supposed to be affected by tracking disruptors?
Is this the same Dev that lobbied to unify FW and Null Sec terms? Game too diverse and complicated for him maybe? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:13:00 -
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Zyress wrote:Sentinels will be unbeatable in frigate level pvp
Ohhhh, now wouldn't that be something. 
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:17:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tobiaz wrote:And long range alpha is overpowered against missile ships..
Not being able to take on everything indiscriminately isn't 'overpowered' it's called balance. How about being able to take on everything, like Tengu? Is that balance too?
If they do the Drake ill bet that'll be "balanced" next lol
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O'Sheagada
The Graduates
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.10 22:23:00 -
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defender missiles |
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