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THE CHOSEN1
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:46:00 -
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artic please never post again, u are just showing how noob u really are.
the best pvpers in the game dont even use a tempest anymore. And u are saying they are too noob to fit their ship right ? Get a clue man ... u clearly dont pvp in a tempest and have no knowledge of the real situation.
Those setups can work in a controlled environment, but in pvp u will get owned so hard its not even funny.
Btw isnt rome trialing for CA ? if thats the case im gonna pod u even though u are in the same alliance, watch your back arctic :P
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THE CHOSEN1
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Posted - 2004.09.07 09:46:00 -
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artic please never post again, u are just showing how noob u really are.
the best pvpers in the game dont even use a tempest anymore. And u are saying they are too noob to fit their ship right ? Get a clue man ... u clearly dont pvp in a tempest and have no knowledge of the real situation.
Those setups can work in a controlled environment, but in pvp u will get owned so hard its not even funny.
Btw isnt rome trialing for CA ? if thats the case im gonna pod u even though u are in the same alliance, watch your back arctic :P
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:13:00 -
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Ok ok ok ok.... the Tempest isnt a BAD ship, but PRJ ARE...
i want to be able to use my tempest and fit mostly PRJ guns.. i have a great setup for my ship, BUT it hardly even uses large prj..
we have tested, and your just not gonna do enough damage with say, 800s.. this is with large prj lvl 5, minnie BS lvl 5, and ALL other gunnery at lvl 5 ... this is the best it gets, i wont be able to hit harder than i do the now, its wrong that even with my skills maxed out, i still find it useless to use mostly PRJ guns on my tempest..
now end these posts, PRJ guns are crap... we all know this, they have been tested with the higher skilled players, and they have confirmed it..
if say u guys spent 5-6million on gunnery, and trained large laser and Amar BS to lvl 5, would u be annoyed that u couldnt afford to use large lasers on ur Apoc, cause they were crap?.
d solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:13:00 -
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Ok ok ok ok.... the Tempest isnt a BAD ship, but PRJ ARE...
i want to be able to use my tempest and fit mostly PRJ guns.. i have a great setup for my ship, BUT it hardly even uses large prj..
we have tested, and your just not gonna do enough damage with say, 800s.. this is with large prj lvl 5, minnie BS lvl 5, and ALL other gunnery at lvl 5... this is the best it gets, i wont be able to hit harder than i do the now, its wrong that even with my skills maxed out, i still find it useless to use mostly PRJ guns on my tempest..
now end these posts, PRJ guns are crap... we all know this, they have been tested with the higher skilled players, and they have confirmed it..
if say u guys spent 5-6million on gunnery, and trained large laser and Amar BS to lvl 5, would u be annoyed that u couldnt afford to use large lasers on ur Apoc, cause they were crap?.
d solo.
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Xtra Bitter
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:15:00 -
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Well i just built and used my first Armageddon fitted 7 mega pulse with radio and trundled out the hanger to test it on an agent mission Gone Berserk.
Having flown a temp for some 8 months i was to say the least astonished.
Warp in at 60km as i would have with the temp and had the mission finished in a little over 2 minutes. Admittedly the cap did run dry but then again i only have Amar BS 2 and Large Energy 2 and with flying a Temp controlled Bursts was never on my list of priorites.
Comparing this with a 1400mm is a non starter in order to keep the NPC atan optimal range i would have to warp in and out 2-3 times.
With the 800's to 425's it would be a case of not hitting a frig NPC ever and using drones to do the mission.
Anyone who thinks this is the result of the pilot not knowing what there doing needs a serious rethink.
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Xtra Bitter
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Posted - 2004.09.07 10:15:00 -
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Well i just built and used my first Armageddon fitted 7 mega pulse with radio and trundled out the hanger to test it on an agent mission Gone Berserk.
Having flown a temp for some 8 months i was to say the least astonished.
Warp in at 60km as i would have with the temp and had the mission finished in a little over 2 minutes. Admittedly the cap did run dry but then again i only have Amar BS 2 and Large Energy 2 and with flying a Temp controlled Bursts was never on my list of priorites.
Comparing this with a 1400mm is a non starter in order to keep the NPC atan optimal range i would have to warp in and out 2-3 times.
With the 800's to 425's it would be a case of not hitting a frig NPC ever and using drones to do the mission.
Anyone who thinks this is the result of the pilot not knowing what there doing needs a serious rethink.
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Hellek
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Meatead
have fitted 6x800protos been at 14km (a sweet spot for 800s) and fired various ammos at an apoc and CAN NOT damage it to any big degree...the apoc can laugh off my damage - and if Im not armor tanking destroy me very quickly. He can tank all my damage AND fire his own weapons indefinitely...where I will run out of cap and ammo before he is even breaking a sweat...
14km, yes. And now whats the perfect range for pulse lasers (with multifreq)? yep, about 15km. So its totally right that you loose when you are in the perfect distance for the other ship, orbit the apoc at 8km, adjust speed if necessary to ensure that you hit, and it will have no chance against you as it won't hit you.
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Hellek
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Meatead
have fitted 6x800protos been at 14km (a sweet spot for 800s) and fired various ammos at an apoc and CAN NOT damage it to any big degree...the apoc can laugh off my damage - and if Im not armor tanking destroy me very quickly. He can tank all my damage AND fire his own weapons indefinitely...where I will run out of cap and ammo before he is even breaking a sweat...
14km, yes. And now whats the perfect range for pulse lasers (with multifreq)? yep, about 15km. So its totally right that you loose when you are in the perfect distance for the other ship, orbit the apoc at 8km, adjust speed if necessary to ensure that you hit, and it will have no chance against you as it won't hit you.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hellek
14km, yes. And now whats the perfect range for pulse lasers (with multifreq)? yep, about 15km. So its totally right that you loose when you are in the perfect distance for the other ship, orbit the apoc at 8km, adjust speed if necessary to ensure that you hit, and it will have no chance against you as it won't hit you.
And then the Apoc activates its Webber. 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.09.07 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hellek
14km, yes. And now whats the perfect range for pulse lasers (with multifreq)? yep, about 15km. So its totally right that you loose when you are in the perfect distance for the other ship, orbit the apoc at 8km, adjust speed if necessary to ensure that you hit, and it will have no chance against you as it won't hit you.
And then the Apoc activates its Webber.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:22:00 -
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Ther is nothing that can beat Pulse laser setup apoch/arma 1 on 1 .. even if you use EW, you just get no win situation
they can tank anything you can trow at them and they can dish out formitable damage
i say amarr ships are flavor of the month agen
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:22:00 -
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Ther is nothing that can beat Pulse laser setup apoch/arma 1 on 1 .. even if you use EW, you just get no win situation
they can tank anything you can trow at them and they can dish out formitable damage
i say amarr ships are flavor of the month agen
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 07/09/2004 15:32:10
LMAO It's the pilots? Is that why I've flown all the Battleships in Eve, and besides the Dominix I found the Tempest to be the least combat worthy WHEN I have the most training in Minmatar ships and projectiles
Large P - 4
Motion - 5
Minmatar BS - 4
Surgical S - 4
I'd rather fly any other BS than the Tempest atm. The Typhoon is better purely cause it can at least armor tank while still doing it's crap damage.
The Tempest Suffers hard from Projectile Nerfs and it's slot setup. WHile the Raven has the same config it still does a lot more damage while not having to give up slots for tracking, which doesn't sound like it's much of a diffrence but it adds soo much to the Raven's abilites.
No, No ship needs to be nerfed the tempest just needs to be fixed. ATM I found the best setup for a TEmpest is 4 siege launchers and whatever guns you can squeeze on it
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.09.07 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 07/09/2004 15:32:10
LMAO It's the pilots? Is that why I've flown all the Battleships in Eve, and besides the Dominix I found the Tempest to be the least combat worthy WHEN I have the most training in Minmatar ships and projectiles
Large P - 4
Motion - 5
Minmatar BS - 4
Surgical S - 4
I'd rather fly any other BS than the Tempest atm. The Typhoon is better purely cause it can at least armor tank while still doing it's crap damage.
The Tempest Suffers hard from Projectile Nerfs and it's slot setup. WHile the Raven has the same config it still does a lot more damage while not having to give up slots for tracking, which doesn't sound like it's much of a diffrence but it adds soo much to the Raven's abilites.
No, No ship needs to be nerfed the tempest just needs to be fixed. ATM I found the best setup for a TEmpest is 4 siege launchers and whatever guns you can squeeze on it
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maxi
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Posted - 2004.09.08 05:57:00 -
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A tempest ...being the fastest tier 2 bs should be able to get to optimal range faster than any other tier 2 bs (skill/module dependant ofcourse). Now from my limited experience being at and being able to remain at optimal range can give you a lot better hit rate, hit points (whatever) than that slower bs struggling to get to its optimal range...achem apoc.
Anyway can flame me to death I don't care....but regardless speed surely must be important? No one mentions this as being an advantage to the tempest.
I do not fly one btw...can't see past my armor tanked uber 0.0 solo mining and occasional pvp fleet support vessel ze big lump of Dominix and my luverly drones.
Anyway must go drones need fed.
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maxi
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Posted - 2004.09.08 05:57:00 -
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A tempest ...being the fastest tier 2 bs should be able to get to optimal range faster than any other tier 2 bs (skill/module dependant ofcourse). Now from my limited experience being at and being able to remain at optimal range can give you a lot better hit rate, hit points (whatever) than that slower bs struggling to get to its optimal range...achem apoc.
Anyway can flame me to death I don't care....but regardless speed surely must be important? No one mentions this as being an advantage to the tempest.
I do not fly one btw...can't see past my armor tanked uber 0.0 solo mining and occasional pvp fleet support vessel ze big lump of Dominix and my luverly drones.
Anyway must go drones need fed.
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Xtra Bitter
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: maxi
A tempest ...being the fastest tier 2 bs should be able to get to optimal range faster than any other tier 2 bs (skill/module dependant ofcourse). Now from my limited experience being at and being able to remain at optimal range can give you a lot better hit rate, hit points (whatever) than that slower bs struggling to get to its optimal range...achem apoc.
Anyway can flame me to death I don't care....but regardless speed surely must be important? No one mentions this as being an advantage to the tempest.
Well thats mainly because the apoc can change its crystal type and therefore its optimal range in something like 2 secounds and be firing again before the Tempest has even turned round to point in the wright direction to get to its optimal range. Or spend another 8s waiting for its ammo to load while its shields vanish.
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Xtra Bitter
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: maxi
A tempest ...being the fastest tier 2 bs should be able to get to optimal range faster than any other tier 2 bs (skill/module dependant ofcourse). Now from my limited experience being at and being able to remain at optimal range can give you a lot better hit rate, hit points (whatever) than that slower bs struggling to get to its optimal range...achem apoc.
Anyway can flame me to death I don't care....but regardless speed surely must be important? No one mentions this as being an advantage to the tempest.
Well thats mainly because the apoc can change its crystal type and therefore its optimal range in something like 2 secounds and be firing again before the Tempest has even turned round to point in the wright direction to get to its optimal range. Or spend another 8s waiting for its ammo to load while its shields vanish.
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Veneth
Edited by: Veneth on 07/09/2004 15:32:10
LMAO It's the pilots? Is that why I've flown all the Battleships in Eve, and besides the Dominix I found the Tempest to be the least combat worthy WHEN I have the most training in Minmatar ships and projectiles
wtf is wong withteh domi it is a mighty fine ship in combat it can tank with the best of them adn has 15 drones to boot. i have a very nice domi setup were with my ok bs skills (i fly cruisers mostly) i can kill a blasterthron one on one.
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Evolve and adapt or die.
The choice is yours to make and no one elses.
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"Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |
deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Veneth
Edited by: Veneth on 07/09/2004 15:32:10
LMAO It's the pilots? Is that why I've flown all the Battleships in Eve, and besides the Dominix I found the Tempest to be the least combat worthy WHEN I have the most training in Minmatar ships and projectiles
wtf is wong withteh domi it is a mighty fine ship in combat it can tank with the best of them adn has 15 drones to boot. i have a very nice domi setup were with my ok bs skills (i fly cruisers mostly) i can kill a blasterthron one on one.
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Evolve and adapt or die.
The choice is yours to make and no one elses.
"Your current safe bounries were once unsafe frontiers"-unknown
"Stupid people, can't live with them, and can't kill them because there would only be 1000 people left to play eve."-Me :D |
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