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kleinstaff	Posted - 2009.05.19 07:29:00 - [1] how many new players are being turned away from this great game because of just plain unwanted acts of destruction i am wondering. Let me explain.. last weekend i was running lvl 2 missions for the first time,i had just bought a brandnew drake and fitted it out, insured her and of i went happily running missions , till i had to do a courier mission to a 0.2 security sector.now this was saturdaymorning so not that many people online. Remembering the advice from a guide i took off , entering the system it was empty except for the base that was my destination. i finished my mission left the base and was ambushed my 2 ships, where they came from no idea , taken by suprise i was destroyed in less than 20 secs i think,My pleas to stop and accepting my surrender weren't even answer , afterwards the just laughed at me., A few hours later , in a new drake, i was still running missions this time it brought me in a 0.4 sec close by the previous system, and guess who was there , yep same 2 guys , i can't remember their names now but i do remember one of them had a bounty of 11 Billion isk on him,and of course you can guess what they did with my new ship Of course i really was ****ed off , i even almost gave up on this game, in the end i didn't and still playing. I took all my stuff and moved to another more peacefull region. So i wonder how many other players are turned away from this game because of the behavor of some stupid hormone driven teenagers Anyway only thing i am sure about is that one day those pilots will meet their match somewhere and will suffer the same humiliation. PS I am not a native English speaker so my apology for any spelling or grammar mistakes
Liitar	Posted - 2009.05.19 07:32:00 - [2] your english is fine, stop going to lowsec
Navtiqes GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.19 07:39:00 - [3] We can handle a few bears falling off during the trial now and then. It'd be worse if every other pvper quit. Please move out of my house. It's not funny any more - Mitnal
Misanth The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Misanth on 19/05/2009 08:18:07 The 'my new Drake', and 'mission to lowsec' makes you look like an obvious troll. Noone is forced to go to lowsec anyhow. If you happen to be serious, then you got yourself a lesson now. Avoid lowsec unless you're looking for a fight. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. And stop play EVE if you can't accept losing ships. Alot of people lose theirs in highsec too. This game was not designed to be safe in any way, you're always a potential target. That's one of the things making EVE to what it is. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
kleinstaff	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Misanth Edited by: Misanth on 19/05/2009 08:18:07 The 'my new Drake', and 'mission to lowsec' makes you look like an obvious troll. Noone is forced to go to lowsec anyhow. If you happen to be serious, then you got yourself a lesson now. Avoid lowsec unless you're looking for a fight. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. And stop play EVE if you can't accept losing ships. Alot of people lose theirs in highsec too. This game was not designed to be safe in any way, you're always a potential target. That's one of the things making EVE to what it is. I resent the fact you calling me a troll, we all start as new players, you did aswell one time, i just resent the fact that the same player targeted me out just for the sheer fun of annoying other people. If getting killed in lowsec is part of the game fine i accept that i have no problems with that , i could just aswell have done another mission for much less ISK, but this is not the point. Point i am trying to make is that some people out there think it is their sole purpose in their EVElife to annoy other players to death.
Misanth The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:32:00 - [6] Originally by: kleinstaff I resent the fact you calling me a troll, we all start as new players, you did aswell one time, i just resent the fact that the same player targeted me out just for the sheer fun of annoying other people. If getting killed in lowsec is part of the game fine i accept that i have no problems with that , i could just aswell have done another mission for much less ISK, but this is not the point. Point i am trying to make is that some people out there think it is their sole purpose in their EVElife to annoy other players to death. Oh I see, you were a troll. Thanks for confirming it. /me goes back to sip coffee - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:54:00 - [7] Here's a dirty little secret which might not be immediately obvious... If you get a courier mission that goes to low-sec you don't have to use your lardy Drake to do it. If you've only got to carry about 100m3 why not just use a frigate? If it's less than 10m3, use a shuttle? To be brutally honest players who don't (won't) think of obvious s*t like using the most nimble ship for the specific job* probably aren't going to be a great asset to the game anyway. Also, you don't have to do ANY mission - you know in advance where it would take you so there's no excuse at all.
Neddy Fox Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.05.19 08:54:00 - [8] First of all : Posting and C&P about this will get you flamed. If you didn't read the other numerous posts (whines) and the replies on it, then that's your fault. When I started playing, and started to do missions in lowsec, I had the same happen to me. Not knowing ANYTHING about pvp , agression timers, gate guns and the difference between pve ships and pvp ships, it was always a very scary undertaking to bring my domi into 0.4 for a mission. I lost a few ships, basically because I panicked every time I saw someone landing on the same gate as me, and not knowing what to do. So I would engage them in my Domi (it's bigger then a Brutix, so it will win, right?) not realizing I couldn't jump through the gate after that, and the brutix ripping my sansha tank apart.. After going to nullsec, I learned the thrills of pvp-ing, and also learned the rules of lowsec. Now, I laugh at the station huggers, and people who only engage if they see a target they will surely beat. Empire is scarier then lowsec for me :) Tip : get a rifter, fir it cheap, and go live in lowsec for a week or 2, and learn the ropes. After that, you will find out how easy it is to travel trhough, what fittings work, and what not. And to get back to your whine : yes, it IS the solo purpose of pirates to kill you, it's why they pay to play the game. Your tears will only give them more joy. Take it like a man, or give me all your stuff and leave the game forever. ---- [PXIN Recruiter] PXIN Recruitement thread
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2009.05.19 09:06:00 - [9] Originally by: kleinstaff So i wonder how many other players are turned away from this game because of the behavor of some stupid hormone driven teenagers It's lines like this that make the game great.
Napolie Gallente Guns'n'Nosses	Posted - 2009.05.19 09:27:00 - [10] Originally by: kleinstaff So i wonder how many other playerS are turned away from this game because of the behavor of some stupid hormone driven teenagers The "S" here indicates pluralis and is therefore SERIOUS business Desusigs
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.19 09:40:00 - [11] Without pirates, low sec would be high sec, so pirates are needed to make EVE more fun for everyone. *Let My People Go*
Lexa Hellfury SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War	Posted - 2009.05.19 09:51:00 - [12] Originally by: kleinstaff So i wonder how many other players are turned away from this game because of the behavor of some stupid hormone driven teenagers I'll be sure to get them all to post in this thread for you. 2/10 btw
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.05.19 10:34:00 - [13] Dont use your drake for courier missions. A Kestrel with a couple of inertial stabilisers would be vastly cheaper, much faster and have almost the same cargo.
Kiva Aharan	Posted - 2009.05.19 10:42:00 - [14] A big part of Eve is that you have to learn as you go. If you get popped in lowsec, don't go in to lowsec. Doing the same things will likely result in the same results. For doing courier missions in lowsec, for instance, you may want to try a realy cheap frigate like an Atron. This way you're less of a target, may be fast enough to get away, and won't lose tons of isk when you get popped. Eve is a tough place, and if you aren't willing to harden up and wise up you're not going to do terribly well.
Tierie Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:04:00 - [15] The way to learn in EVE is to be killed. You now know not to use your drake in 0.2 sec :p.
Nefertiti Akhenaton	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:12:00 - [16] It's all part of the game. if they want to quit over it, let them. You do not have to complete missions in low sec there is a reason why you are allowed to dismiss 1 mission every 4 hours without standing losses so use it or move to an area where you are not sent to low sec although that still doesn't mean you are safe.
steave435 Caldari SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:15:00 - [17] Suck it up. Similar thing happened to me when I just started out with my new caracal that I could barely afford, and hadn't even finished gathering all the mods for (was in low sec to pick some up). Undocked, got engaged by a myrmidon, and since I was new and had no idea what I was doing, I tried to fight back ang quickly got popped and podded. I never cried about it, just went back to missioning with my cormorant again until I could afford to buy a new caracal, this time making sure all mods would be in high sec. Lesson learnt, one replaceable ship lost, valuable experience gained.
Double E NQX Innovations The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:26:00 - [18] Originally by: kleinstaff Originally by: Misanth sole purpose in their EVElife to annoy other players to death. FACT.....its what I live for ..i believe the carebears call it Piracy
Izo Alabaster Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:36:00 - [19] EVE Online isn't for everyone. What makes this game truly great, and separate from other MMOs like WoW and such, is that the player vs. player content is often times not consensual, and there are genuine risks when engaging in PVP. Yes, the game loses a few carebear wannabes during the early stages of their EVE-life, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Props to CCP for making it that way. Originally by: CCP Nozh Are BS useless in solo combat? The larger ship still has many benefits: * Can fit smaller weapons to fend off smaller targets * More slots allow EW counter measures
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:37:00 - [20] Suck it up. Eve is all about PvP and griefing. You went to low sec, you risked your ship for higher rewards, you got the worse end of the stick. Now there are quiet regions of low sec where you could survive for a time, but low sec is never completely safe like you seem to want it to be. Plenty of players leave because of how harsh eve is, all we say is suck it up or go back to WoW.
Fu ManChewy	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:38:00 - [21] Edited by: Fu ManChewy on 19/05/2009 11:38:53 Originally by: kleinstaff Anyway only thing i am sure about is that one day those pilots will meet their match somewhere and will suffer the same humiliation. No they won't. You are in their backyard with all their buddies nearby. 1v1 will become 1v10 before you can say blinky
Kazang Gallente Wrecking Shots	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:58:00 - [22] Im really can't tell if this a troll or not. But maybe you should try fighting people instead of doing missions? You will find its exactly 437.5% more fun. Eve is a pvp game, being blown up and blowing up someone else are regular occurrences. There is nothing humiliating about losing a ship in pvp(normally). Anyone driven off by eve pvp can stay away, we really don't care. Every time you undock you consent to combat and some parts of space are a lot more risky than others, for you this time the risk did not pay off, other times it will. You will learn the ropes soon enough if you stick with it. I really do encourage you to try pvp though as it so much more rewarding that pve in so many levels, and "peace" is vastly overrated. Kazang
Lei Merdeau Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.19 11:59:00 - [23] I've been lucky, I somehow found a mining mission (that I failed) that took me through Old Man Star. Scored a T2 set of ECM modules from a wreck at the gate. My 2nd low sec transit, when I knew better, nothing happened but the adrenaline rush! Thank you, player pirates, wouldn't have been the same without the threat of you.
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2009.05.19 12:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Fu ManChewy Edited by: Fu ManChewy on 19/05/2009 11:38:53 Originally by: kleinstaff Anyway only thing i am sure about is that one day those pilots will meet their match somewhere and will suffer the same humiliation. No they won't. You are in their backyard with all their buddies nearby. 1v1 will become 1v10 before you can say blinky This is quite wrong. Supposing the OP is telling the truth and isn't just provoking reactions, the 2 pirates in question probably lost crapload of ships by now and will keep losing them without bothering too much about it. But the tears of a new carebear after he's been ganked for the first time ever... priceless. It's not so much different from gloating of failed pirates over how they killed your unrigged bc once, just inverted. Equally amusing to be on receiving end on both, from personal experience.
Misanth The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.05.19 12:55:00 - [25] Originally by: Vrabac This is quite wrong. Supposing the OP is telling the truth and isn't just provoking reactions, the 2 pirates in question probably lost crapload of ships by now and will keep losing them without bothering too much about it. But the tears of a new carebear after he's been ganked for the first time ever... priceless. One of the most amusing kills I've done. Me and a friend sitting bored in Syndicate, decided to run to Jita. Bought two destroyers, t1 fitted it and just blow up one guy that was annoying, spamming and sitting at a planet. We lost sec, lost (very little) isk, and he didn't drop anything so no profit. Still it felt bloody good and made my day. Now, bit over two years later it still makes me smile inside. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen.
Dimitryy Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.19 13:43:00 - [26] 1) You dont need to be in a drake for a lvl 2 courier mission 2) Weekends are busier for most pirate areas, not quieter 3) You lost your ship once, why would you go back into lowsec? And about karmic retribution to the pirates, chances are they already lost their ships. Pirates are not invincible, and they know it. Losing ships is inevitable when you spend your days fighting with them. ------------------------------------------ Jack Blackstone > Dimitryy I hope you die.
Tommy Zhang	Posted - 2009.05.19 14:06:00 - [27] Here we go again... You are either a troll or the dumbest pod pilot ever to wander the space lanes. If you actually fitted a drake out and then took it to low sec as a new player, lost it and then did it again you really need to think about quitting because this game will chew you up and spit you out if you can't learn from your mistakes. What makes me think you are a troll is that you claim to have to done this twice. Even the noobest of noobs would have asked advice in corp and been warned off after losing the first ship.
kleinstaff	Posted - 2009.05.19 14:10:00 - [28] Edited by: kleinstaff on 19/05/2009 14:13:54 there are some good points here , i learned my lesson by now. However i feel sorry for others new players who will eventually fall victim to the agression of veteran players And no i don't consider myself dumb by the way. Just plain unlucky meeting them twice ...in a diffrent system
Tommy Zhang	Posted - 2009.05.19 14:18:00 - [29] The bigger the ship you are in, the more attention you are going to draw when you go to low sec. In addition a big ship is slower to align and by your own admission you are a new player so you don't have the skills to fly a BC in PVP. I can solo level 4 missions in a battleship but I wouldn't take anything bigger then a frigate into Low sec. I could say in almost complete certainty the ships that tore you up were probably rifters worth less then 1 mill each. As others have said take a shuttle or a frigate for your low sec courier runs.
Havohej Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2009.05.19 14:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Lexa Hellfury Originally by: kleinstaff So i wonder how many other players are turned away from this game because of the behavor of some stupid hormone driven teenagers I'll be sure to get them all to post in this thread for you. 2/10 btw postin "You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer

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