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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:32:00 -
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After researching the posts of those that actively gank miners, I have reached the conclusion that we need to understand the mentality of the gankers.
Firstly, we need to enter their world. We need to forget that it is a game and constructed of pixels. This is what they have forgotten.
The profile of a ganker could be viewed as person with a limited intelligence, but that would be derogative, so that is discounted.
Through examining countless posts and talking to these "people" I have found that they are moderately motivated (see reward for ganking said mining ships) and adverse to reprisal from any other player (Concord is OK) as they will not attack mining ships with escorts.
If we draw on a real world equivalence, we find a similar body of individuals in Somalia, that do a similar task but with shipping - again with similar mindset and reward. Are these pirates Eve gankers role models? Surely not - so I will go to theory #2
They are conservationists. They have heard the plight of the rock and it has stirred them into action to preserve the asteroid belt from its evil assailants, the miners. They are affiliated with the Green Party (covertly oc) and use their time out of Eve upsetting the natural environmental flow of the planet, because the fact that there is a food chain doesn't seem to register.
But whatever they are, they need our compassion and patience, as we forever live in the hope that they will someday resume taking their meds and will turn into fully functional "normal" individuals.
We live in hope
I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
3417
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:33:00 -
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So... they're bullies? or...
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Vito Antonio
State War Academy
Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:34:00 -
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wat? |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
982
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:39:00 -
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This just in: goonswarm is a secret front for Greenpeace.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:43:00 -
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The Somali pirate role model does come to mind ... especially after having watched the South Park episode where Cartman goes to Somalia
This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Kehro Urgus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
322
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:44:00 -
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Someone lost their hulk, neener neener neener! 
Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much. -- Oscar Wilde
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Farethria
Perkone
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:47:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:Someone lost their hulk, neener neener neener!
Thanks for explaining that. |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
77
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:49:00 -
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It doesn't matter what thread I read they all seem to be the same. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
430
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:03:00 -
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Me am ganker.
Why do gank? Buh. Because fat. Also because ugly. Society make fail to educate person in moral. No can get job or woman. But grief miner good. Gank make bad go away. Real life? Real life beg parents for money for food to not die to play game 18 hours. Real life make suffer. Game? Game no make suffer. Game I make other suffer for make me suffer in real life. Gank Hulk, make cry. Sometimes camp Stranglethorn for half a day with Night Elf hunter. Game make me look like pretty Asian girl, make happy.
What am psychological profile of ganker? Probably meat suit Gary Busey with happy ******* friend.
Fuh, it 8 a.m. Too many word typing. Me go sleep now. |
Trading Unknown
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:08:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:This just in: goonswarm is a secret front for Greenpeace.
Wrong: http://eve.enviroweb.org/perspectives/issues/feminism.html |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Alliance 99000802
571
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:13:00 -
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People are looking at this the wrong way.
Goons have noticed over the years the failed mechanic of suicide ganking and the weakness of certain mining vessels primarily the Hulk. So after time and this falling on CCPs deaf ears, they decided to take actions into their own hands. They know the best way to get CCPs attention is to cause a big scene, so by suicide ganking as many hulks as they can they cause a outcry that CCP can no longer ignore.
So miners in the end you should be thanking goons for making the sacrifice of ganking your ships. It may hurt now but down the road you will understand. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
Unified Church of the Unobligated
469
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:16:00 -
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Klandi wrote:Firstly, we need to enter their world. We need to forget that it is a game and constructed of pixels. This is what they have forgotten.
That's where you're going wrong, most gankers are enjoying the game, blowing up some pixels and that's pretty much it. From reading the back and forth between the two sides over the years it seems it's those who are too attached to their pixels that cry the most and don't like losing them.
I pretty much stopped reading after that sentence.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
1456
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:24:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:This just in: goonswarm is a secret front for Greenpeace.
Quick! Somebody do an environmental impact study on genitalia precipitation! |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:30:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:This just in: goonswarm is a secret front for Greenpeace.
thanks for simplifying the OP and saving me valuable minutes of my life. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1099
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:30:00 -
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A Psychological analysis of guys blowing Internet space pixels and watching entire forums shed ****ton of tears much to the amusement of all and sundry.
I'd say working as intended. Also, drawing real-life parallels to a game can only go one way. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
982
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:33:00 -
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What on Earth is that?! Kill it with fire.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
173
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:33:00 -
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People who play Eve solely to make isk are often called Jews. And who dislikes Jews? Therefore all gankers are...
Needs more tears. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4241
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:34:00 -
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seeing by the responses I've gotten from hulk miners like yourself I think it's easier to say that you're the ones who are entirely disconnected from reality
"WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
633
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:34:00 -
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OP is funny when mad.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii
Rogue Elements.
677
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:42:00 -
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Y u mad?
CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |
Jonah Gravenstein
291
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Posted - 2012.05.12 13:23:00 -
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I can see Helicity Boson being the internet spaceship figurehead of Greenpeace, albeit with more dakka, the whole event is about saving the Orca from the environmentally unfriendly practice of mining.
Sniped it 
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena
Star Council
424
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Posted - 2012.05.12 13:35:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:The Somali pirate role model does come to mind ... especially after having watched the South Park episode where Cartman goes to Somalia
Hilarious episode.
I guess they are environmentalists, but on an Al-Zarqawi level. Either or, they make for some amusing results AND I get the added bonus of observing people under the effect of various social motivators.
"If." |
Selinate
859
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Posted - 2012.05.12 13:52:00 -
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I guess you accidentally used my supertank hulk that I posted a while back?
FYI, that was a joke. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:18:00 -
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Actually they do it because it results in silly threads on the forums. |
Whitehound
272
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:31:00 -
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Klandi wrote:We live in hope
EVE is a griefing game and hope dies last.
No more crappy expansions!-á-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired." - CEO Hilmar-á-á No more crappy layoffs! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
676
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:16:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Actually they do it because it results in silly threads on the forums.
Hey, posting in a silly thread in EVEO Forums.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
730
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:18:00 -
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I'm confused, I thought I did it cause explosions are fun... |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
648
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:41:00 -
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OP hasn't a clue and is far from the truth.
We are all human, no difference beside the color of our skin, eyes, hair, and half of us have a connector that plus into the other half's connector  )
Gankers don't relize it, but they are risk adverse. Think I am lying? How many hulk kills were not with battleships? The vast majority are destroyers, because without that insurance payout these dumb dudes that won't admit the truth are using EFT to get the most bang for their buck. Loosing a 250m or more battleship at current prices is really stupid don't you think, so of course they are adverse to taking such a risk to their wallet.
Miners in highsec are risk averse. Why don't they take them to lowsec? Because its stupid and will mostly end up being blown up. Because its a risky idea to take an expensive ship into lowsec, they are adverse to higher profit with less reward.
tl;dr: One hairless ape is calling another hairless ape, but both apes are the same thing as it doesn't matter if you pull the trigger or not. |
Kriegman
Raging Ducks
Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:50:00 -
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Because ganking is like opening a box of chocolates, you never know what you gonna get. Besides, most people in highsec are not use to podding. This is like "coup de gras" of space violence, highly enjoyable especially if hate mail and forums threads are plentiful. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
731
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Posted - 2012.05.12 15:52:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:OP hasn't a clue and is far from the truth. We are all human, no difference beside the color of our skin, eyes, hair, and half of us have a connector that plus into the other half's connector ) Gankers don't relize it, but they are risk adverse. Think I am lying? How many hulk kills were not with battleships? The vast majority are destroyers, because without that insurance payout these dumb dudes that won't admit the truth are using EFT to get the most bang for their buck. Loosing a 250m or more battleship at current prices is really stupid don't you think, so of course they are adverse to taking such a risk to their wallet. Miners in highsec are risk averse. Why don't they take them to lowsec? Because its stupid and will mostly end up being blown up. Because its a risky idea to take an expensive ship into lowsec, they are adverse to higher profit with less reward. tl;dr: One hairless ape is calling another hairless ape, but both apes are the same thing as it doesn't matter if you pull the trigger or not.
There is a difference between being not risk averse, and being a moron. |
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