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          Larkonis TrassIer 
          Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.28 22:28:00 -
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          Picture the scene... you and your plucky fleet of brave outlaws are cutting around Low Security space in a light role fleet composing of HACs/Interceptors and one or two logistics for good measure. Hell, maybe you even have one outlaw in your gang. Danger strikes... you run afoul of some wartargets or pirates on a gate... one man screams for reps, but he's an outlaw. The plucky logistics pilots rep him up and are flagged. Fail cascade ensues.
  What I propose:
  GCC is only incured if rending assistance to another player who has GCC.
  What this enables for Outlaws, either as Corps or individuals within Corps is more versatility when fighting on gates vs war targets or other outlaws. Keep in mind the number of outlaws within faction warfare etc and this has far wider benefits than the odd outlaw who turns to a bit of anti piracy at the weekend.
  Although a lot of you can Hurf Blurf and say 'you did the crime, take the punishment' the current system still leaves outlaws at a disadvantage when facing legitimate war targets.
 
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          Larkonis TrassIer 
          Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.28 22:29:00 -
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          Supporting dis.
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          Drake Draconis 
          Minmatar Shadow Cadre
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.28 23:02:00 -
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          Edited by: Drake Draconis on 28/05/2009 23:02:25 "....Aiding and Abetting(sp?) an criminal...."
  As to my position on this... remains to be seen. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense Vote Herschel Yamamoto for CSM! | 
      
      
      
          
          Xailz 
          Godless Horizon.
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 00:22:00 -
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          Yes yes and yes
  
  Xz ------ I came, i saw, i posted **** ITT.
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          FU22 
          Beyond Transcendence
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 00:25:00 -
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          at first i thought this was a terrible idea and then thought about it.
  Going to support this as it has very little effect for when pirates are shooting neutrals.
  Pirate 1 is shot at by neutrals. Pirate 2 reps pirate 1, and then opens up on neutrals giving GCC Pirate 2 gets primaried Pirate 1 Reps pirate 2 and for reppin someone with GCC gets his own GCC.
  Supporting this  
  I mean its not like its easy being -10 anyway so surely this can't hurt  
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          Jimer Lins 
          Gallente Noir.
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 02:39:00 -
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          Clarification question:
  Would someone giving rep to a target incur aggro to their aggressor in this scenario?
  Example:
  Outlaw with non-outlaw friends. Outlaw is attacked by another fleet. Outlaw receives reps from non-outlaw friends.
  Does the other fleet now have the option to attack the non-outlaw reppers without a GCC?
 
 
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          Shigsy 
          Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 02:46:00 -
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          Supporting this
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          Skarned 
          Inroads
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 02:57:00 -
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          Great proposal. | 
      
      
      
          
          Misanth 
          RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 03:11:00 -
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            Originally by: Jimer Lins Clarification question:
  Would someone giving rep to a target incur aggro to their aggressor in this scenario?
  Example:
  Outlaw with non-outlaw friends. Outlaw is attacked by another fleet. Outlaw receives reps from non-outlaw friends.
  Does the other fleet now have the option to attack the non-outlaw reppers without a GCC?
 
 
  Would want this clarification as well. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. | 
      
      
      
          
          Yakov Draken 
          Minmatar Tides Of War
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 04:45:00 -
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          Supporting this.
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          TheLibrarian 
          Tides Of War
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 04:56:00 -
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          Edited by: TheLibrarian on 29/05/2009 04:57:11 This should totally happen. So many times have we fought other flashys, but since we remote rep even if none of us have GCC, we get GCC get shot by gateguns.
 
  SUPPORTING THIS!
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          Karlemgne 
          Tides Of War
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 05:00:00 -
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          I approve of this message. My sig don't fracking work. | 
      
      
      
          
          Shinichi Hakeda 
           
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 05:15:00 -
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          Yes yes yes!
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          FunzzeR 
          Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 05:20:00 -
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          Definitely got my support.
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          Lyvenrith Imshadar 
          Tides Of War
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 05:58:00 -
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          Supporting this.
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          Gavin Darklighter 
          Ministry of War
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 06:54:00 -
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          support
 
 
 
 
 
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          Jean 
          Beyond Divinity Inc
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 08:04:00 -
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          Lark my HERO <3 wub
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          Suitonia 
          Genos Occidere
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 08:04:00 -
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          Supporting.
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          Muad' Dib 
          Beyond Divinity Inc
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 09:42:00 -
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          ggg --- I smack just for myself.
  * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout | 
      
      
      
          
          K1RTH G3RS3N 
          Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 09:54:00 -
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          please
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          Vrabac 
          Zawa's Fan Club
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 10:22:00 -
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          Yep.
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          Karentaki 
          Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 10:38:00 -
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          Supported.
 
   Quote:
  EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
 
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          ArmyOfMe 
          The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 11:03:00 -
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          ♥
 
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          Ignition SemperFi 
          The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 11:30:00 -
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          a csm we can believe in(well besides a few others) ;-p +support ---- People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
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          Noelle Fay 
          SniggWaffe
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 11:40:00 -
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          Oh yeah. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The secret to success, whether it's women or money, is knowing when to quit. I oughta know: I'm divorced and broke. | 
      
      
      
          
          TraininVain 
           
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 11:50:00 -
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          Hmmm. Would repping an outlaw without a GCC make the repper show as an outlaw too?
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          Asmodean Reborn 
          Foundation Sons of Tangra
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 12:10:00 -
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          yep
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          RedSplat 
          Heretic Army
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 13:21:00 -
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          Needed.
  The mechanic as existing is just one more unnecessary artificial barrier between player interaction between those whom are outlaw status and those who have + sec status.
   Originally by: CCP Mitnal
  I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
 
   Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
 
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          Herschel Yamamoto 
          Agent-Orange
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 14:41:00 -
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          This seems reasonable.
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          Jogvan 
          Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
  
          
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        Posted - 2009.05.29 15:22:00 -
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            Originally by: Jimer Lins Clarification question:
  Would someone giving rep to a target incur aggro to their aggressor in this scenario?
  Example:
  Outlaw with non-outlaw friends. Outlaw is attacked by another fleet. Outlaw receives reps from non-outlaw friends.
  Does the other fleet now have the option to attack the non-outlaw reppers without a GCC?
 
 
  Isn't that how it works with neutrals repping a wartarget/loot thief in hisec? It would work the same way in losec too then.
  Thumbs up from me  
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