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Seribrithia
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:14:00 -
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SO what if you could power down your ship instantly (powering up taking a set time) so that anyone in your area would not see you on the overview but can see you visibly if they are close enough. You could physically hide behind planets, roids, stations, etc if they were near.
Just a crazy idea after watching 3 hours worth of Battlestar Galactica episodes lol.. I may be a noob but really I have nothing to loose and everything to gain! |

Taak Coram
Gallente Cursed Souls Vort3x.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Taak Coram on 29/05/2009 04:36:16 I thought of this too while watching Firefly. Be warned, people will flame you. I predict shoutings of "lern2cloak".
EDIT: I realize it's different from a cloak. I actually think it's a cool idea.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Seribrithia SO what if you could power down your ship instantly (powering up taking a set time) so that anyone in your area would not see you on the overview but can see you visibly if they are close enough. You could physically hide behind planets, roids, stations, etc if they were near.
Just a crazy idea after watching 3 hours worth of Battlestar Galactica episodes lol..
Nice idea actually.
The only ones who will object are the criminals here anyway, so just ignore them.
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Hame leGrey
Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:43:00 -
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I would endorse this product and/or service 
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:44:00 -
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Me 2! this idea sounds awesome, and the tears of those found will be about as sweet as condensed milk
Pomp FTW!!! |

Xiao LoPan
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:46:00 -
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that is a nice idea, has nice drawbacks to keep it balanced, i would assume that would mean no overview, no shields and no scanning right?
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dankness420
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:47:00 -
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that is a pretty awesome idea actually. you could still probe the person out but once you warp to them, it would be confusing until you actually start looking for them.
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Hame leGrey
Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Xiao LoPan that is a nice idea, has nice drawbacks to keep it balanced, i would assume that would mean no overview, no shields and no scanning right?
Just what I was thinking. What about local?? If you are in a powered down ship, it would be feasible that you would be able to 'see' local, and the chat on it, but not actually send anything?
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 04:55:00 -
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your proposed system only works if the scanning ship was looking for electronic signatures.
Any system that relys on bouncing a signal of a physical object, eg Radar or Ladar, would still find the ship, wether the ship had power or not.
Thankyou for posting something other than a lvl 4 whine thread, but Ideas forum is that way --->

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Sombike
Caldari Vanad ja Kobedad
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Posted - 2009.05.29 05:25:00 -
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Since some ppl are desperately searching a way to get cloaked ships away from theyr space, how about if we replace cloaking with this idea? :)
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.05.29 05:30:00 -
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Remove cloaks from ships that arent covert ops cloakable, and implement this idea.
Would fit my RP perfectly.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Xiao LoPan
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Posted - 2009.05.29 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Joe your proposed system only works if the scanning ship was looking for electronic signatures.
Any system that relys on bouncing a signal of a physical object, eg Radar or Ladar, would still find the ship, wether the ship had power or not.
Thankyou for posting something other than a lvl 4 whine thread, but Ideas forum is that way --->

they would have a contact, but with no power it should be more difficult to tell the difference between a ship and floating space junk
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Rachel Silverside
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.05.29 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xiao LoPan
Originally by: Joe your proposed system only works if the scanning ship was looking for electronic signatures.
Any system that relys on bouncing a signal of a physical object, eg Radar or Ladar, would still find the ship, wether the ship had power or not.
Thankyou for posting something other than a lvl 4 whine thread, but Ideas forum is that way --->

they would have a contact, but with no power it should be more difficult to tell the difference between a ship and floating space junk
nerf minmitar ships then!!!!!! -------------------- i play momorpugers |

Malloway
PAIN AND PLEASURE LLC
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Posted - 2009.05.29 06:57:00 -
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Wow very nice idea Seribrithia.
This would be a nice feature to the game and would add a little bit of "spice" to the whole ... staying hidden trick. Also this feature would be pretty balanced as is, for example
(Pros and Cons for the person who powers-down their ship and in general gameplay)
Pros: > Completely invisible via overview and most electronic devices. > Adds creativity to making a safespot. (Safespots behind planets or behind asteroids would decrease ur chance of being found) > Actually "searching" for a ship with you eyes out in space would be a nice change up every once in a while.
Cons: > If someone does find you while ur power-downed ... well, your just screwed. (Powering up should take some time to complete. No mods would work while powered-down and you have no shields, hull and armor are not effected obviously) > Scan probes would still work in finding your ship, but it souldent be able to pinpoint you down as well as it would normally if u were "powered-up". > Adding on to the scan probes, maybe if ur trying to probe a ship that is "powered-down" the closest they can get is within the ~30-50km range?
Just a few things of who i could see this implemented.
Great idea!
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Lagsta
Wraith.Wing Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 08:59:00 -
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How good would it be if you could power down then eject, then you can leave a ship somewhere relatively safely without (too much) fear of it being stolen?
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.29 09:07:00 -
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Its an idea. But brix will be shat by people who are already plagued by AFK Cloakers.
We should be allowed to run without containment though. Maybe then the Blood Raiders will see I'm on their side.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.05.29 09:18:00 -
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Someone should tell the jetcans to power down their systems, they keep appearing on my overview.
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Sam Browne
MYTHIC Developments
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Posted - 2009.05.29 09:39:00 -
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Nice idea. Could add to the argument for removing cloaks from non-Covert/Spec Ops ships if implimented correctly.
"Your farming ship can no longer AFK cloak because it can no longer fit a cloak, but you can opt to power down whilst hiding from the hunters..."
Originally by: Xiao LoPan
Originally by: Joe your proposed system only works if the scanning ship was looking for electronic signatures.
Any system that relys on bouncing a signal of a physical object, eg Radar or Ladar, would still find the ship, wether the ship had power or not.
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they would have a contact, but with no power it should be more difficult to tell the difference between a ship and floating space junk
As scanning for (powered) ships (and anything else for that matter) is now pittifully easy, scanning for powered down ships should take some real effort as hinted by Xiao. It would I'd say, make it a challenge for the hunters and add some risk element to the current (afk?) cloaking crowd without totally removing the ability to sit (virtually) hidden.
Fresh idea, well done Seribrithia. Swimming against the tide since 2003 |

Akoudoulos
Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:05:00 -
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for a General discussion idea weirdly this sounds really nice
actually Blackops ships could have this as a module like covert ops cloaking device it would made those unworthy expensive ships a reason to be worthy
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:24:00 -
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Powering down should be quick and you should only to be able to be powered down for 2 or so hours, after that you start to take hull damage, rp reasons could be life support or cosmic radiation.
You are still able to be probed and D-scanned while you are powered down making it not like ninja cloaking.
All passive mods will be offline as well as shield (this stops armor buffer tanks getting an upper hand)
When powered down, you will be able to see local but not be ln local, making it good for ambushes.
Powering up should tabe about 3 minutes and use 95% cap, a skill like jump drive operation could reduce the cap usage. And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |

Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:27:00 -
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Sounds like somebody has been watching reruns of Star Trek: Deep Voyager Nine....
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Taak Coram Edited by: Taak Coram on 29/05/2009 04:36:16 I thought of this too while watching Firefly. Be warned, people will flame you. I predict shoutings of "lern2cloak".
EDIT: I realize it's different from a cloak. I actually think it's a cool idea.
hate to say it but isnt this what the cloak effectively does? if its to serve a purpose to hide then..why add something else?
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief
Originally by: Taak Coram Edited by: Taak Coram on 29/05/2009 04:36:16 I thought of this too while watching Firefly. Be warned, people will flame you. I predict shoutings of "lern2cloak".
EDIT: I realize it's different from a cloak. I actually think it's a cool idea.
hate to say it but isnt this what the cloak effectively does? if its to serve a purpose to hide then..why add something else?
The cloak makes it too easy to hide in a non-cloaking ship, this is the much needed balance. And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |

An Sar
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:33:00 -
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signed
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.29 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy Someone should tell the jetcans to power down their systems, they keep appearing on my overview.
Not to forget those pesky asteroids! I demand they turn off all their electronic equipment!
Kinda like ops idea though  ==================================================
I should really get a sig. |

Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 11:10:00 -
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well it makes sence.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 29/05/2009 11:18:07 I like it. As it adds variety to the game. Do it!
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Maria Kalista
Amarr Emerald Forest Securities
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Posted - 2009.05.29 11:28:00 -
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I like it.
Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
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Hyperforce99
Gallente Infinite Covenant United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.29 11:37:00 -
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This is something I originally thought about when I started eve, such things as:
Don't hit the asteroid, I might crash :P Or, can I hide from pirates behind this large roid 
So yeah, this could be interesting. Questions though:
Would it remove all forms of chat ? Will it be scanneble using scan probes ? Would this remove someone from local ?
--------------------------------------------- Somewhere beyond happyness and sadness, I need to calculate what creates my own madness o/ |

Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.29 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: 5pinDizzy Someone should tell the jetcans to power down their systems, they keep appearing on my overview.
Not to forget those pesky asteroids! I demand they turn off all their electronic equipment!
Kinda like ops idea though 
As far as RP-***ging goes you CCP could come up with the fact that your overview isnt programmed to understand powered down ships. And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |
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