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50freefly
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.31 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: 50freefly on 31/05/2009 19:39:13
Definitely. Gallente pilots are at a major disadvantage at gates, and that's wrong.
Alternatively, make sentry guns shoot down missiles.
That being said, you should vote Larkonis Trassler for CSM.
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Destroyer1020
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Posted - 2009.05.31 22:28:00 -
[32]
supported
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.01 01:40:00 -
[33]
Supported 100%
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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.01 02:25:00 -
[34]
Supported.
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ToTheCore
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.01 03:18:00 -
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If drones were ignored completely by gate guns, I can foresee drone boats being a little too overpowered. That being said, maybe some tweaking of the gate guns is needed vs drones in order to ensure that they don't die instantly to the guns. If that is too much work, maybe a new module that boosts drone HP or something? Supported nonetheless because this is still a problem, even if the proposed solution might need some modifications. |
Ris Dnalor
Ex Cruoris Libertas
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Posted - 2009.06.01 07:38:00 -
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Yes, is completely unfair for droneboats and limits even more what ships can engage at gates or stations in low sec without war decs. If the sentrys can't kill my ship, it should leave my poor drones alone.
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Zostera
Honour Bound
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:36:00 -
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In principal the guns are shooting at a "hostile entity" at the gate when shooting drones, in practice it is an unfair nerf on drone boats.
Maybe a balance can be found that keeps drones under fire but reduces damage to allow a chance to recall or rep and manage the fight.
Supported.
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Haunted House
BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:16:00 -
[38]
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Kasi Kasai
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:39:00 -
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With drone assignment, wouldn't this lead to people assigning drones to an expendable ship, which then ganks the target when the assigning ship is far away, the target is held down by a high tank hic? Or to save on use, assigend to the hic itself maybe?
This is soo open to abuse.
Not supported. |
Merw
Caldari
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.06.01 21:25:00 -
[40]
 Originally by: Drake Draconis
Edited by: Drake Draconis on 30/05/2009 19:42:20
Originally by: Merw
Supported because carebears get to keep their drones in missions so why cant outlaws keep theirs when their gate camping? Change the agro or nerf drones in missions.
Missions don't involve gate camping.... comparing an orange to an apple - Epic Fail
Tbh i dont see a difference why would sentrys recognize a need to shoot at drones yet npcs in missions don't change targets even though it can account for a large amount of a ships dps. Would someone be sad if you couldn't run missions afk?
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Kadere Isendre
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.06.02 03:08:00 -
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I am a Gallente pilot, and I fly to the strengths of my ships, namely drones. I have always felt it to be an unfair disadvantage to me as a Gallente pilot to lose a large part of my DPS under sentry fire, whereas any other race would not.
Fully supported. Lets see some equality here. |
Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.02 13:05:00 -
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the other part that gets me is, drones are a weapon system with hitpoints and although that is part of your dps they are still something that can be negated by shooting at whether by npc or players. So it would make sense for the sentries to shoot the drones just as much as a player would shoot the drones.
really the issue you have is alot of the drone boat dmg can be destroyed, but thats just not related to sentries but to anything being able to shoot your dmg dealing ability.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.06.03 03:23:00 -
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Not supported, although this would save me a lot of isk on drones.
The way I see, there are advantages and disadvantages to each ship, ie the dps of droneboats aren't too affected by ewar unlike the other ships, while they are less useful around sentries. Makes it balanced IMO.
Although you do raise a fairpoint regarding how it's different rules for non-flashies (RR domi gangs etc), but I guess it just forces you to adapt to the situation you're in. A solution around this would be having sentries only fire on drones that commit hostile acts (so logistics drones can be used like non-flashies use)
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Fulmen
Failed Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Edited by: RedSplat on 31/05/2009 12:08:39
Supported.
Yet another arbitrary restriction placed on people but more importantly also one that Gimps Droneboats.
Drones are guns too!
My Pulses don't pop when gate guns shoot me, why should your "mobile" guns go pop?
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:47:00 -
[45]
Yes
My sig don't fracking work. |
TheLibrarian
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:48:00 -
[46]
I agree with this, as a pilot who uses drones in every engagement.
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Aydae
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:49:00 -
[47]
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Yakov Draken
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:57:00 -
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:15:00 -
[49]
Domi / Ishtar are allready overpowered.
Giving them ability to pirate gate camp is unjustified as this is one of there few weekpoints.
Also 3 or 4 domi/ishtar on a gate with drones assigned to insta locking hic = I win button, so no thanks. |
Aastarius
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:36:00 -
[50]
Cant support this and if anything I'd like to see the damage from sentry guns increased!
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Capt Lothar
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.06.10 20:04:00 -
[51]
Supported.
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.12 01:28:00 -
[52]
Quote:
Not Supported. Exploits mechanics in favor of outlaws. If drones no longer got aggro... then they could continue to do things for as long as the owner's tanks holds out.
That's what happens now with every other non-drone focused ship. Why should we get the shaft? |
Yahrr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.06.12 02:00:00 -
[53]
supported.
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Adam Junior
Gallente
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:49:00 -
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/supported
Having sentrys shoot drones is no different from having them shoot your guns. I can imagine the swarm of bawww if cpp made that happem.
And finally, congratulations, you have reached the end of my post! Have a cookie! |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kasi Kasai
With drone assignment, wouldn't this lead to people assigning drones to an expendable ship, which then ganks the target when the assigning ship is far away, the target is held down by a high tank hic? Or to save on use, assigend to the hic itself maybe?
This is soo open to abuse.
Not supported.
You mean like people can effectively do already in turret based snipefits?
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
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Efrim Black
Gallente
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Efrim Black on 12/06/2009 17:06:02
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 31/05/2009 18:15:39
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Fact is 95% of combat happens on gates or stations.
Having been in many hilarious situations where I have been unable to engage a juicy target either at a gate or station due to my drone heavy loadout, or the several times where I've been in a BS gang frantically RR'ing enemy fighters from a downed carrier while we get some haulers on the job I must say this is something that needs looking at.
This won't make any real difference in terms of capability to those dreaded pirate camps.
The part I bolded for you is the real issue. Seriously. Why follow the herd mentality of nullsec (i.e. da blob on da gate/da blob on da station/da blob on the POS) and further encourage similar brainless "push-butan" in losec?
Instead of buffing for the lazy....proper incentive for smarter hisec dwellers to risk losec for whatever reason is the way forward. Along with ****canning all POS shields (and take the ****ing things out of WH's altogether).
The part in italics...boohoo. Also LOL. And boohoo again.
Yes the number of camps in losec has always been made out far worse than reality. By a mile. A country mile. But the silliness in Rancer and other hisec-losec junctions (woohoo awesome corp gets 14k kills of which 12k are shuttles go doodz  ) kinda puts folks off.
It's simple.
Nuke POS shields. Period. All of them.
Buff losec rewards for those that wish to risk it.
Oh...remove local and make it just a count of active pilots. Everywhere.
And I'll have that pony and flying pig.
Good luck.
**EDIT**I forgot...open up hisec to outlaws without Mommy/Daddy aggro babysitters. Concord is so silly. And outlaws being automatic targets anyway thanks to sec status can choose whether or not to risk a visit....just like the various "LOL-antipie" types feel free to drop into losec with T1 pap blob.
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Natasha Zenith
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2009.06.16 03:21:00 -
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Yes please!
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Arron Wade
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Posted - 2009.06.18 20:55:00 -
[58]
100% supported, needs to happen
maybe limit the change to combat drones and let them shoot at fighters to avoid low-sec carrier gatecamps, but if its all or none then I'd rather have no aggro on the drones |
Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.06.19 07:09:00 -
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As long as the drones stop attacking and become scoopable as soon as the pilot dies/warps, good idea. |
Hadesin
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Posted - 2009.06.20 01:29:00 -
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this would be a great idea |
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