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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.05.31 04:55:00 -
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I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice
thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just
sounds like a time/isk sink.
Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that
non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new
(and working) Evemail interface.
There are many important things being skipped over in favour of
features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game.
If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI
improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.05.31 05:00:00 -
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Maybe with all the time saved they could get around to picking a better font for Eve :-)
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
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Posted - 2009.05.31 05:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice
thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just
sounds like a time/isk sink.
Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that
non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new
(and working) Evemail interface.
There are many important things being skipped over in favour of
features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game.
If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI
improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction.
Maybe if you bothered to read and pay attention you'd know this is a waste of time as the dev's working on ambulation are not a part of the main core of EVE...
It's a different department entirely.
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Chomapuraku
Templar Republic
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Posted - 2009.05.31 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice
thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just
sounds like a time/isk sink.
Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that
non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new
(and working) Evemail interface.
There are many important things being skipped over in favour of
features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game.
If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI
improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction.
Maybe if you bothered to read and pay attention you'd know this is a waste of time as the dev's working on ambulation are not a part of the main core of EVE...
It's a different department entirely.
regardless, that department uses resources at CCP that can be allotted to better, more useful projects. i'd much rather see a new ship class or faster deployment of dynamic, hidden roid belts than walking in stations.
oh, and btw, ccp, make hidden roid belts so that you have to run several scans and move your ship around to find the belt, rather than dropping one probe and getting warpins on all of them.
Originally by: Misanth
Being nice doesn't pay off, you should stop listening to the right shoulder parrot. The left one is usually right.
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Tobruk
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.31 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tobruk on 31/05/2009 06:52:34
this game is like a 1940s russian tank
the very best, innovative, groundbreaking
but shot out so fast its crammed full of rough edges, bugs, imbalances, etc etc
CCP needs to fix whats wrong with eve currently rather than introduce ambulation (which none of its current customer base paid to play)
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.05.31 06:56:00 -
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Umm, no. We do not get the ability to dictate CCP policy. Have a problem with that? Too bad. I have loads of problems with other Developers of other games, but do you hear me whining? no.
CCP can do whatever it wants. You can quit the game in protest or go back to playing like you already are.
--Isaac
Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
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Qoi
New Eden Warriors
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Posted - 2009.05.31 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Chomapuraku
regardless, that department uses resources at CCP that can be allotted to better, more useful projects. i'd much rather see a new ship class or faster deployment of dynamic, hidden roid belts than walking in stations.
oh, and btw, ccp, make hidden roid belts so that you have to run several scans and move your ship around to find the belt, rather than dropping one probe and getting warpins on all of them.
They are developing a Vampire MMO and thought it would be nice to use the engine for something else, so they develop Ambulation, too. Of course they could stop every involvement in EVE and focus on their more important core task. I can't see how this would help the EVE codebase tbh.
And: NO.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.31 11:35:00 -
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I would rather see the Time, effort and money put into Ambulation used elsewhere on critical game areas.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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Necronus
Amarr
Monks of War
United Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.31 11:36:00 -
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Ambulation is a musthave.
Why?
Because its one step to making eve MMO Sci-fi game, not only just internet spaceship game. Which is awesome.
Maybe it has small use at the moment ,but thats the plan to add things slowly.
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Lunewraith
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.05.31 12:09:00 -
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Not supported.
Too much Dev time, money and manpower invested into a mechanic which is deep into production (which I'll agree could have been better used to refine the existing game). Ambulation is a framework for which future CCP products will launch from; its unlikely to be stopped even if feedback from the Eve playerbase was resoundingly negative. Accept it and move on.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.31 12:22:00 -
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Not supported.
It's a good feature and will bring in a lot of new players.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.05.31 13:18:00 -
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While it's kind of fun to rag on ambulation, there's not a snowball's chance in hell of CCP abandoning this feature, certainly not at this late stage. Asking for it would be a waste of the CSM's time, and a pointless insult to CCP. Not supported.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
While it's kind of fun to rag on ambulation, there's not a snowball's chance in hell of CCP abandoning this feature, certainly not at this late stage. Asking for it would be a waste of the CSM's time, and a pointless insult to CCP. Not supported.
This.
Not supported
--Vel
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Chris Sandstorm
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"...
Actually, i do.
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Izo Alabaster
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:05:00 -
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Please scrap the whole WIS idea. It's too grandiose an idea to implement without devoting huge amounts of resources to it. It doesn't actually yield anything for the community besides a bit of extra eye candy.
Instead, please fix logoffski mechanics, overview phantom-ship bugs, sound bugs and nerf Minmatar.
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Kytanos Termek
Caldari
Darkstorm Command
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:09:00 -
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Not, Supported.
Ambulation is a much needed bone for us roleplayers, this is what we have requested and scratched for since launch, After 6 years, Ill be damned if we don't finally get our fulfillment.
In addition, it will have other neat stuff, like that table game showed at fanfest, and possibly eve poker ingame, which is cool also.
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Sanaril Wolfchild
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.01 20:21:00 -
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They devoted an extra team to this, do you really believe a few unhappy players can stop WiS? Did you hear what they told us at the fanfaire about it last year? No way, that any force can stop WiS |
Aethrwolf
Caldari
Home for Wayward Gamers
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Posted - 2009.06.02 08:19:00 -
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I dont particularly want WiS, but I have to say that it will probably greatly expand the playerbase, and therefore CCP's available money to spend on fixing other stuff, so I cant support this.
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LukeWarm Hole
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Posted - 2009.06.02 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Sandstorm
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"...
Actually, i do.
I do too. Not Supported
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Taudia
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.02 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Taudia on 02/06/2009 13:29:10
Originally by: LukeWarm Hole
Originally by: Chris Sandstorm
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"...
Actually, i do.
I do too. Not Supported
Thirded. Also, by now I believe a lot of resources have gone into this already and CCP have hinted planetary landing is in (very early) development. Even with the reservation that Walking In Stations does not use technology that will benefit more concrete future gameplay, too much has been invested in it to just scrap it at this point.
EDIT: for typo's.
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Odhinn Vinlandii
V I R I I
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.06.02 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sanaril Wolfchild
They devoted an extra team to this, do you really believe a few unhappy players can stop WiS? Did you hear what they told us at the fanfaire about it last year? No way, that any force can stop WiS
Something is stopping it. It's two years behind schedule.
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.02 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Verys on 02/06/2009 18:56:38
Ambulation will expand the game towards the vision of CCP which is creating a living and breathing artificial universe. It's one of the things I have been looking forward too since the moment I heard about it.
Sure some things could be polished but it is up to you and the rest of the community to bring this up to CCP, by example with F&I, Game Dev and Assembly Hall.
If you really want something changed bring up an idea that many people will like and I'm sure it gets into the game.
Now please stop trying to tell CCP how they should do they're corporation management.
BTW: I want ambulation!!!
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Oam Mkoll
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.02 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Oam Mkoll on 02/06/2009 20:21:02
Edited by: Oam Mkoll on 02/06/2009 20:18:23
Good to see I'm not the only person not thrilled by Ambulation (or whatever it will end up being called).
Adding all that functionality will not make EVE an avatar-based MMO. Players from 'normal games' will come, look around, realize there's nothing to do and then leave. People who should be playing EVE, the game's target audience, are either already in or will be drawn in through the.. you know.. EVE thing: internet spaceships. This expenditure of time and resources is nothing more than a gimmick. EVE is a fish and they're coding it a nice bike.
There IS a ton of things to improve in EVE. Heck, even some extra factional warfare content would be nice (note: I don't give a crap about FW but it's a way to tie the core gameplay content to the setting). The Ambulation team may be a separate entity but I'm assuming they're neither thick nor volunteers. Which means CCP is paying talented people good cash to code that bike for our beloved fish.
There is, naturally, a possibility that EVE really WILL develop in the same direction as Star Trek Online: spaceship combat and avatar-based gameplay onboard planets and stations. Possible but hey, not a single game could get it right while the internet spaceships thing is what EVE does right and where it's best. I wouldn't need to be a games marketing specialist to see a very risky course here.
edit: Ofc not a snowball's chance in hell of Ambulation being abandoned now but this thread is a nice exercise to see how many people aren't really so thrilled by it. Hopefully CCP will just let it die like they did with Factional Warfare and reanimate FW which actually has relevance to EVE Online. |
Orbital Deliverance
Gallente
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:13:00 -
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It has been stated repeatably that WiS is an off shoot of CCPS development of the World Of Darkness MMO, which despite the OPS whine isn't likely to be canceled.
I doubt that the implementation of a Walking in Station module into the EvE client has any major impact on the already established EVE DEV teams.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:57:00 -
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Worst idea ever in the history of EVE. Not to mention even if you got support for this crappy proposal, your chances of having CCP actually comply with it are about 0.
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Jin Labarre
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Posted - 2009.06.04 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"
I want "walking in steation". Now think again.
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
There are many important things being skipped over in favour of
features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game.
Ambulation adds quite a lot to the game. Maybe not to your game, but to mine.
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI
improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction.
Please do so. Oh, can I have your stuff?
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Gallente
Scorpion Road Industry
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Posted - 2009.06.04 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"
I do.
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Red Raider
Caldari
Airbourne Demons
DeMoN's N AnGeL's
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Posted - 2009.06.04 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"
I do.
+1
In fact I am willing to be the vast majority are looking forward to it. You may not like or use it but it doesn't make it any less interesting as an addition to the EVEverse. |
Yahrr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.06.05 00:03:00 -
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WIS to be installed yesterday! Can we also get a YARR button to use in station so I can listen to my own echo in my empty low sec station? :)
WIS development should continue! |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.05 01:58:00 -
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I think the point has been made.....
Plenty of people are very much interested in old features more then new features.
Even when I phrased the question in such a antagonistic way....
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