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Faith O'Siras
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Posted - 2009.06.05 07:13:00 -
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Currently, you can only detect probes via your directional scanner if you click your overview settings off. And even this is problematic at best.
I would like to see probes added to the overview options, sooner rather than later so that I can click a little check-mark and create a more specific overview tab.
CSM, please support this and bring it up to CCP.
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Yes, this is because I am a low-sec mission runner. No, my ship was not violenced. Almost, though.
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Faith O'Siras
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Posted - 2009.06.05 07:13:00 -
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Just signing this.
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Asume Nosami
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:05:00 -
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Agreed.
+1
Oh and ...
/signed.
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Solomon XI
The Estovakian Militia.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 14:43:00 -
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/signed. |
Kadavreski
Caldari State Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 14:48:00 -
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Signed. |
Meissa Anunthiel
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:20:00 -
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I already brought it up during the post-apocrypha CCP/CSM meeting, the minutes of which can be found here: http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2009/CSM_CCP_Meeting_21_03_2009.pdf
Page 3, point 4.k:
"k) Adding probes to overview û this was a legacy balance decision and is not being looked at currently".
Can try again, but asking 2 times for the same thing and expecting different result, well, ...
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Faith O'Siras
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:22:00 -
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It's a horrible design decision. CCP wants us to mission in low-security and yet wants to make it as difficult for us to do as possible for hardly little extra rewards?
Constantly, I hear about *watching your overview* from low-security mission supporters and yet it's tedious when the information you need gets lost within all the debris and trash floating around.
I think the CSM needs to press this issue together on CCP.
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ZONAC
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:34:00 -
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I support this.
/signed. |
Kralin Ignatov
Mentis Fidelis
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 19:12:00 -
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:35:00 -
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Verys
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:41:00 -
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Yes please would make a world of difference in those littered systems. |
Lazarann
Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:02:00 -
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Yes please. |
Faith O'Siras
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Posted - 2009.06.06 00:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Verys
Yes please would make a world of difference in those littered systems.
It really would. It *might* even promote more mission runners into low-security. |
Boknamar
The Knights Trevor
The Elders Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.06 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Boknamar on 06/06/2009 03:53:37
Yep.
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Mos7Wan7ed
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Posted - 2009.06.06 04:40:00 -
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Faith O'Siras
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Posted - 2009.06.06 16:18:00 -
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Exactly. People paranoid enough do it already. This change would simply make it less frustrating.
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so broke
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Posted - 2009.06.07 03:27:00 -
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I fully endorse this idea. |
Zorok
LEGI0N
International Blitzkrieg Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.07 04:32:00 -
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I endorse this idea as well. I would like to add that in the meantime, when checking your overview settings sort by Type alphabetically from A-Z (as opposed to Z-A). This should put most probes near the top of the list since they mainly begin with a C or D. Of course this doesn't take into account the Sisters probes but I don't see them used that much in my experience.
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Solomon XI
The Estovakian Militia.
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Posted - 2009.06.08 06:13:00 -
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Friendly nudge to a pretty good idea. |
Furtiva
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Furtiva on 10/06/2009 18:38:38
I support this proposal.
The inability to filter on only one type of scannable object was simply a programmer oversight. I refuse to believe that this was truly a design decision. This is clearly a case of the "It's a feature, not a bug" syndrome.
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Pian Shu
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.10 20:13:00 -
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You can find them now, it's just annoying; I don't see the balance issue with adding them and so I fully support this.
There is nothing balanced about an annoying UI. |
Suva Nova
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Posted - 2009.06.11 03:34:00 -
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/signed |
Sidrow Mex
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Posted - 2009.06.11 07:05:00 -
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Ok, now we have delayed locals and so on, so everything is fine and dandy. Now add the probes to overview, so I don't have to tick and untick every scan in order to see something in the mass of structures and crap like it.
/signed. |
killerbitsch
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Posted - 2009.06.11 08:05:00 -
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.06.11 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 11/06/2009 09:52:29
Supported. Having to thrawl through a huge list of irrelevant POS modules or wreck listings to find probes on your scanner is NOT fun game design. Adding probes to overview may encourage more people to venture into low sec.
Especially because CCP (according to the minutes) gave absolutely no justification for their descision. I'm actually a little bit dissapointed CSM2 didnt press them further on that issue at the time. |
Jogvan
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:08:00 -
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"OMGOMG IM BEING SCANNED DOCK DOCK!!"
More lazy warning systems for carebears (I actually do a lot of exploring myself, true story)
Would support this if in return we had local for losec/0.0 changed to delayed mode. |
Raimo
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.06.11 13:41:00 -
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Signed |
Furtiva
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Furtiva on 11/06/2009 17:23:51
This is not about a "lazy warning systems for carebears." This is about a broken UI. I live in a wormhole, and for all I care probes can be scannable or not. Suits me fine either way.
The issue is that any object that is scannable should be filterable and available on the overview. Ommiting scannable objects from overview filters is annoying, unrealistic, and a lazy way to "balance" the game.
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Furtiva
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:11:00 -
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I'm not sure if it would require a new proposal, but the best solution to this problem that I can come up with is to add every scannable object (including probes) to the overview filters, and introduce covert (cloakable) probes that are usable at a reasonably high SP level. |
Yahrr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.06.12 01:33:00 -
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As this lowers the barrier for low sec mission running I fully support it. (gotta feed my exotic dancers and the current stream of low sec carebears isn't enough...)
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