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Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.05 17:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Jin Nib That's the prolem with them, they are too tempting.... I mean do I really need mechanic at 5? Really? I do if I want the cert, and I want the cert . Do you want Mechanic at 5? Do you want Electronics at 5? Do you want Engineering at 5? The answer to all these questions is "yes". They all fall under the category of "support skills everyone should get to 5 early on". Yeah but I already have the others at 5, and I'd have to trian mechanics. Quite frankly from it's description it doesn't really sell its way up on the priority list. Much like Survey 5, it may be a prereq for other things but if it was a skill all on its own would I get it? Probably not. Until I realized how nice haveing 25% buffer points in an emergency really is.
MightyRhinox Minmatar Rhinox Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.06.05 17:31:00 - [32] Originally by: Maxpie Targeting 5 is the one that sits there calling to me though my rational mind knows I have no need of it. I thought so too, but then I trained it and having those extra targets up there is actually great for a lot of things...
MightyRhinox Minmatar Rhinox Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.06.05 17:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Jin Nib Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Jin Nib That's the prolem with them, they are too tempting.... I mean do I really need mechanic at 5? Really? I do if I want the cert, and I want the cert . Do you want Mechanic at 5? Do you want Electronics at 5? Do you want Engineering at 5? The answer to all these questions is "yes". They all fall under the category of "support skills everyone should get to 5 early on". Yeah but I already have the others at 5, and I'd have to trian mechanics. Quite frankly from it's description it doesn't really sell its way up on the priority list. Much like Survey 5, it may be a prereq for other things but if it was a skill all on its own would I get it? Probably not. Until I realized how nice haveing 25% buffer points in an emergency really is. Mechanic V is also a prereq for assault ships.

CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2009.06.05 18:55:00 - [34] When I was putting these together I did think "and then some players will train useless skills just to get certificates, and SOME PEOPLE WILL DIE, heh heh heh". And now I've trained Shield Emissions Systems V on my Amarr character just so I can get the Logistics Chief Elite cert... (The Controlled Bursts thing and the armor tanking requiring shields and vice versa thing should now both be fixed.)

lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice	Posted - 2009.06.05 20:03:00 - [35] Edited by: lollerwaffle on 05/06/2009 20:05:11 Elite core certificates pilot reporting in o7 edit: Targeting 5 AND Multitasking 3 ftw
Doctor Penguin Amarr Heavy Influence Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 20:05:00 - [36] Originally by: CCP Greyscale (The Controlled Bursts thing and the armor tanking requiring shields and vice versa thing should now both be fixed.) Despite Tactical Shield Manipulation having obvious benefits for armour tanking.
Donatien de'Sade Ars Notoria	Posted - 2009.06.05 20:19:00 - [37] Edited by: Donatien de''Sade on 05/06/2009 20:25:28 First quick look at odd cert skill requirements: Basic Business Tycoon requires Improved Business Mogul Improved Business Tycoon requires 2 skills (Wholesale, Margin Trading) that themselves have a requirement of L5 Retail and L4 Accounting - not really justified at such a low level of cert. Edit: some more: Basic Rare Ore Refiner requires 3 x L4 skills - this should be L3 skills to be in line with the other harvest skill certs. Some of the Leadership cert requirements are just strange
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2009.06.05 21:02:00 - [38] Woohoo ... today I finished training Control Bursts 3 and Heavy Assault Missiles 2. That gives me ... wait for it ... TEN new certificates.
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.05 21:05:00 - [39] i'm a certified elite hull tanker really, check my character in game
Crovan Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.06.05 23:18:00 - [40] I demand a Hero Tanking cert, tbh. On topic, I know at least a couple people who get way too hung up on certificates. As in, they won't fly a Battleship until they have the Improved/Elite certs for everything related to them. While I can see the logic there, it's a long time to hang out in a cruiser. For most people, though, I will agree that they are a good tool, the only problem is for crusty old vets like me with 40m skillpoints and only a handful of elite certs . The Drone Bay Podcast

Tag Heuer Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.06 00:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Crovan I demand a Hero Tanking cert, tbh. ... I've got dibs on the Death Knight cert. Is this a run on sentence or my signature? You decide.
Nefrin Maldoes Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage	Posted - 2009.06.06 00:28:00 - [42] Originally by: Crovan I demand a Hero Tanking cert, tbh. What about Honor Tanking? Unless that was what you were referring to? EVE Tribune report of the Honor Tank
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2009.06.06 00:30:00 - [43] What about an Honor Tanking cert? When's that coming in? Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Slave 2739FKZ	Posted - 2009.06.06 01:23:00 - [44] I demand capital pilot certificates for time sinking.
Rhinanna Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.06 01:54:00 - [45] Shield Ops (shield recharge rate) at a V needed for low level ACTIVE shield tanking certs!!! Yeah great 2-3 extra defence is going to really help me!!! :)
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.06.19 07:50:00 - [46] Yep, many of the certs makes no sense whatsoever. Funniest ones are actually the basic passive tanking ones. They require a buttload of skills. Not to mention the refining / mining certs. Those REALLY don't make sense. Who in his right mind that doesn't live in the utmost butthole of 0.0 universe EVER trains an ore processing skill to 5? I mean..really? They're only useful if you have the crappiest refining array ever...and to save like...3% waste. And that's for the standard cert??? WUT?
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.19 09:51:00 - [47] Edited by: Benco97 on 19/06/2009 09:51:35 I pay little attention to the certs myself, it's hard to use them to plan your training when you instantly earned a significant portion of them the moment they were introduced. Edited for grammar and clarity
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.06.19 09:59:00 - [48] Certs are nice to have, *****s if i'm training the skills for the ****ed ones. "Durr every drone racial skill to V" bugger off, i'll keep them at IV, thanks.
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:32:00 - [49] Hello , my name is Xthril Ranger and I am a certificate addict. just 14 more days until I got all the elite leadership certificates. I am now thinking of training all the racial drone specialisation skills to lvl5 so I can get the last elite drone certificate. That is a whooping 96 days of training for 2% more damage with tech 2 drones.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:34:00 - [50] I admit to training Multitasking III to get a fistful of certs

Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:35:00 - [51] Originally by: Faife i'm a certified elite hull tanker really, check my character in game I did that one too (and my only public one) at least it is useful to fit t2 shield boost amps just finished off elite cartographer on my alt. must say I miss the exploration probes for finding ships from a while back, was rather nice, now doing the 4x probe spam on them just takes too much effort. cant stand ninja looting now. probed down a golem and he even had a domi come in and I couldn't get a fight (I was in a domi)
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:36:00 - [52] Originally by: Malcanis I admit to training Multitasking III to get a fistful of certs eh I been meaning to do that just for that whole marauder thing. just did it on my alt, and being able to lock that many things is so
Fossil Wolf omen. Gay4Life	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:36:00 - [53] Originally by: Malcanis I admit to training Multitasking III to get a fistful of certs You were able to train this on a male char?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:37:00 - [54] Originally by: Rhinanna Shield Ops (shield recharge rate) at a V needed for low level ACTIVE shield tanking certs!!! Yeah great 2-3 extra defence is going to really help me!!! :) being able to use tech 2 xl boosters is nice
Mangala Solaris Caldari Ma'adim Logistics Event Horizon.	Posted - 2009.06.19 10:55:00 - [55] Originally by: Estel Arador I just had to get the Core Competency Elite certificate (and Hull Tanking!), but other than that I've managed to stay clear of a 'certificates-addiction'. I was managing to avoid getting hooked on claiming them all, but now ive fallen to the addiciton too. Im blaming the recent update to EVEMon for making it worse though :( -------
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Iron Industries Invictus Imperium	Posted - 2009.06.19 11:51:00 - [56] I already had multitasking 3 when the certs were added :D I have all the elite shield tanking certs and am on my way to all the armour tanking ones too. I'm also a week away from the elite logistics cert too! I havent yet planned training around a certificate though - I plan by ship. However despite having awesome torp/cruise skills the lack of advanced rocket skill is preventing me from claiming a whole load of missile certs and quite frankly it seems like too much effort.
Ortos Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.06.19 12:46:00 - [57] Why do ppl really care about these certs in the first place?


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