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Landrassa
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Jogvan
Originally by: Fumen Seems like I recall a case in Denmark or Netherlands or some such about a couple guys getting prosecuted over a scam in WoW a year or so ago. I don't recall the details, but it was something to do over an in-game transaction and fraud. (I want to say some sort of monetary transaction was involved and not just an in-game scam. You know, it'd suck that you got scammed and then banned for attempting any sort of RMT.)
I think that one was because the victim was being harassed/threatened IRL by some guys until he sent them WoW gold or whatever they wanted.
No. It was danish, yah, but roughly this - He bought isk (so it was in EVE), from e-bay if I recall right but that part can be wrong. He then paid for it with paypal, i.e. using his CC. The guy he bought it from didn't send him the isk, so he wanted his CC company (VISA?) to revert the deal, since he didn't get what he bought.
Well, since he bought intellectual property that neither of the involved parties owned, he simply didn't have a case. He broke a contract he signed (EULA), and he bought something that don't exist, that he has no right to either.
Can't recall exact details but that should be pretty accurate.
The case in the Netherlands involved a couple of guys threatening someone in rl in order for him to transfer some shiny in Runescape. And obviously the only reason the authorities became involved was because of the rl part. Funnily enough they actually prosecuted for theft, which might be debatable.
If I had a 15 year old son and he had to show up in court because he was involved in extorting a 13 year old for an item in an MMORPG...he'd be in for such a world of hurt.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:44:00 -
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Wasn't there a thing about some korean kid getting murderised over some sword or sommin in some mmorpg too?
I barely pay attention at the best of times as it is...
Anyway... Why go for one big hit when you could just skim for as long as it takes you to get rumbbled? You know, give out loads of small loans to alts that then default and such.....
plus... selling isk... tres uncool :( --
If there's no profit to be made you need to travel further afield.
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Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Originally by: Ralara $11k is not a lot of money, dude.
Oh I wouldn't mind if someone decided to give me "not a lot of money" then. $11k is considerably more than even a lifetime of Eve is worth to me.
eh I dunno. I wont say it wouldn't cross my mind but Eve's like a hobby to me. It'd be like asking a twitcher not to watch birds any more or whatever. I'd need more money to make me step away from Eve forever... ú5-6k, whilst a nice bit of money... I can make a lot more than that IRL anyway so... it wouldn't be enough to convince me.
To some people I'm sure it would make a huge difference in their lives and pay off a lot of loans or buy a new car etc - just not for me. Not that I'm rich by any means, im on less than ú25k but there u go - it's like 20% of yearly wages for me or something. It's not that life altering that I'd give up eve, something I love immersing myself in. --
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Nel Tu
Minmatar Thurisaz Robotics Corporation
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Nel Tu on 12/06/2009 14:28:34 Edit - Nevermind |
Seqenenra Taa
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Keith Joscelyne for anyone who is posting that they wouldnt quite eve for $11k, I honestly do believe, they are the type of people that get bullied irl, the type of people that have no freinds other than the jayne does and john does they talk to over the internet! They are sad, I play eve as it is fun and the people i get talking over vent do seem interesting, But i have a life and I do have freinds outside of eve, SO if i was to get offerd $11k I would quite happily walk away from eve and go play WoW.
So basically to all the people who claim not to quite if they get offerd that amount of rl cash. More the fool you!
Thanks
Keith
Some people value friendship over material gain. You, apparently, are not one of them. |
Anda Chiyo
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Seqenenra Taa
Originally by: Keith Joscelyne for anyone who is posting that they wouldnt quite eve for $11k, I honestly do believe, they are the type of people that get bullied irl, the type of people that have no freinds other than the jayne does and john does they talk to over the internet! They are sad, I play eve as it is fun and the people i get talking over vent do seem interesting, But i have a life and I do have freinds outside of eve, SO if i was to get offerd $11k I would quite happily walk away from eve and go play WoW.
So basically to all the people who claim not to quite if they get offerd that amount of rl cash. More the fool you!
Thanks
Keith
Some people value friendship over material gain. You, apparently, are not one of them.
Most people, I dare say, value "real life" friendship over material gain.
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Anda Chiyo
Originally by: Seqenenra Taa Some people value friendship over material gain. You, apparently, are not one of them.
Most people, I dare say, value "real life" friendship over material gain.
People on the internet aren't real! It's just electrical signals interpreted by your brain! |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Misanth on 12/06/2009 22:22:43
Originally by: Landrassa The case in the Netherlands involved a couple of guys threatening someone in rl in order for him to transfer some shiny in Runescape. And obviously the only reason the authorities became involved was because of the rl part. Funnily enough they actually prosecuted for theft, which might be debatable.
If I had a 15 year old son and he had to show up in court because he was involved in extorting a 13 year old for an item in an MMORPG...he'd be in for such a world of hurt.
That's a different case.
I've heard of a few different ones but the danish is the one that had most media exposure (to my knowledge). It involved a fairly decent sum of money, a big credit card company (VISA if I recall right) as well as PayPal.
Kids threatening other kids for different things ingame happens all the time. Soon ten years ago I was GM of another game, where a guy stole items from his RL brother. The irony is, since account sharing is prohibited as per EULA (in that game, EVE, and well most I know of), we had to ban them both. I'm not sure I want to know what went on in that household later.
Some people just go to excessive lengths regarding ingame items. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tildes own All of the EBANK damage control is pretty awesome lol
At least their comedy value is pretty high. I wonder if that's part of their 'assets portfolio'. |
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