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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 18:49:00 -
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Moved to Corp forum. -Omniscience
Am i the only person who thinks this is getting rather old? Or are the "kid/younger" players of CA loving the fact they can shoot stuff without it shooting back.
I realise we are at war with CA but surely even they must see how dishonourable it is to shoot an unarmed man in the back.. IsnÆt it just cowardice?
Im talking of course about the mining op's in omist and the continued attacks upon them, i don't personally see the strategic value on attacking these ops which would tell me only one thing, people are looking for easy gibs?
Im in emp researching myself so it doesn't effect me directly & i have no doubt i'm going to get torpedoed for starting this thread but im curious to hear what people have to say about the situation 
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 18:49:00 -
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Moved to Corp forum. -Omniscience
Am i the only person who thinks this is getting rather old? Or are the "kid/younger" players of CA loving the fact they can shoot stuff without it shooting back.
I realise we are at war with CA but surely even they must see how dishonourable it is to shoot an unarmed man in the back.. IsnÆt it just cowardice?
Im talking of course about the mining op's in omist and the continued attacks upon them, i don't personally see the strategic value on attacking these ops which would tell me only one thing, people are looking for easy gibs?
Im in emp researching myself so it doesn't effect me directly & i have no doubt i'm going to get torpedoed for starting this thread but im curious to hear what people have to say about the situation
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Camar
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Posted - 2004.09.16 19:25:00 -
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Not to be rude or anything, but taking out your enemies resources and supply-lines (and keeping your own intact) is the key to winning a war.
So striking enemy miners would indeed be a very strategic move...not an act of cowardice...
I suggest you read up on some strategy. Germany against russia in world war II is a good one to begin with, although the russians used "the burned soil tactics", meaning they left nothing behind when they retreated for the Germans to use. And getting no supplies from "home", needless to say, germany didn't conquer russia, but lost a whole lot of men there.
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Camar
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Posted - 2004.09.16 19:25:00 -
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Not to be rude or anything, but taking out your enemies resources and supply-lines (and keeping your own intact) is the key to winning a war.
So striking enemy miners would indeed be a very strategic move...not an act of cowardice...
I suggest you read up on some strategy. Germany against russia in world war II is a good one to begin with, although the russians used "the burned soil tactics", meaning they left nothing behind when they retreated for the Germans to use. And getting no supplies from "home", needless to say, germany didn't conquer russia, but lost a whole lot of men there.
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 19:36:00 -
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Not a strategic advantage when it comes to many omist corps, most miners down here are dedicated to just that.. Needless to say due to the appending Shiva release we are not short of cash and are/will be prepared for a long time to come before needing to find further resources.
I completely understand the principle and i understand about tactics involved, but this is an extremely different situation.
Also the attacks themselves are random and it would seem on occasions very un-organised, that would not say strategy to me?
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 19:36:00 -
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Not a strategic advantage when it comes to many omist corps, most miners down here are dedicated to just that.. Needless to say due to the appending Shiva release we are not short of cash and are/will be prepared for a long time to come before needing to find further resources.
I completely understand the principle and i understand about tactics involved, but this is an extremely different situation.
Also the attacks themselves are random and it would seem on occasions very un-organised, that would not say strategy to me?
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Jonathan Wark
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Posted - 2004.09.16 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jonathan Wark on 16/09/2004 19:55:16
Well, and mind you IÆm no CA supporter, I would have to say to you that if this is the case you are not taking advantage of the situation and CA is. If youÆre upset that you have a lot of ôNon combatö people getting ganked perhaps you should have thought about that before getting into a war. You are at war, they take out your ships when they find them, simple as that. If you took the time to think about this you could find a tactical advantage.
By your own admission these groups attacking mining operations are small and unorganized. DonÆt you think it would be worth while to keep some war ships in close proximity to your mining OPÆs? A few unorganized CA marauders would be no match for a well organized assault, especially if they didnÆt see you coming. You donÆt like whatÆs happening I suggest changing your tactics. You got into the war I suggest you fight it not complain about it.
The CA tactics are actually pretty darn smart if you ask me. Hit and run, take out easy targets, annoy your group until you either take action to stop them, or ask for peace.
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Jonathan Wark
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Posted - 2004.09.16 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jonathan Wark on 16/09/2004 19:55:16
Well, and mind you IÆm no CA supporter, I would have to say to you that if this is the case you are not taking advantage of the situation and CA is. If youÆre upset that you have a lot of ôNon combatö people getting ganked perhaps you should have thought about that before getting into a war. You are at war, they take out your ships when they find them, simple as that. If you took the time to think about this you could find a tactical advantage.
By your own admission these groups attacking mining operations are small and unorganized. DonÆt you think it would be worth while to keep some war ships in close proximity to your mining OPÆs? A few unorganized CA marauders would be no match for a well organized assault, especially if they didnÆt see you coming. You donÆt like whatÆs happening I suggest changing your tactics. You got into the war I suggest you fight it not complain about it.
The CA tactics are actually pretty darn smart if you ask me. Hit and run, take out easy targets, annoy your group until you either take action to stop them, or ask for peace.
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Syncros on 16/09/2004 20:27:04
Mining ops do involve hauling across multiple systems, although escorts are a possibility i do not believe it to be a necessary and appropriate use of resources..
I'm not going to ***** any longer anyway as im not effected and it's not in my jurisdiction, but i kept hearing about various attacks that are happening and was curious as to what others had to say, i personally don't see how ca playing "shadow games" (logging on/off constantly & "hit & running") is of any tactical advantage what so ever as ships & resources are quickly replaced  . If anyone could experience what is happening down here i'm sure you would share the same views. Sorry if people think im being ignorant but it's only my opinion
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Syncros on 16/09/2004 20:27:04
Mining ops do involve hauling across multiple systems, although escorts are a possibility i do not believe it to be a necessary and appropriate use of resources..
I'm not going to ***** any longer anyway as im not effected and it's not in my jurisdiction, but i kept hearing about various attacks that are happening and was curious as to what others had to say, i personally don't see how ca playing "shadow games" (logging on/off constantly & "hit & running") is of any tactical advantage what so ever as ships & resources are quickly replaced . If anyone could experience what is happening down here i'm sure you would share the same views. Sorry if people think im being ignorant but it's only my opinion
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Jonathan Wark
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Posted - 2004.09.16 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jonathan Wark on 16/09/2004 20:51:09
 Originally by: Syncros
Edited by: Syncros on 16/09/2004 20:27:04
Mining ops do involve hauling across multiple systems, although escorts are a possibility i do not believe it to be a necessary and appropriate use of resources..
I'm not going to ***** any longer anyway as im not effected and it's not in my jurisdiction, but i kept hearing about various attacks that are happening and was curious as to what others had to say, i personally don't see how ca playing "shadow games" (logging on/off constantly & "hit & running") is of any tactical advantage what so ever as ships & resources are quickly replaced . If anyone could experience what is happening down here i'm sure you would share the same views. Sorry if people think im being ignorant but it's only my opinion
(Please remember this is an RP forum)
Well you asked for opinions. I not only gave you an opinion but also an option to turn this to your tactical advantage. If you do not choose to use your resources to take advantage of the situation thatÆs completely up to you.
Now you also did not mention anything, until now, about them logging off and then back on. While I am unclear exactly what this ôLogging on and offö is, it sounds like the tactic of a coward. Hit and run however is a viable and time honored tactic, where a small strike force goes into enemy space hits a target and then high tails it back to their own region of control before overwhelming odds turn against them.
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Jonathan Wark
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Posted - 2004.09.16 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jonathan Wark on 16/09/2004 20:51:09
Originally by: Syncros
Edited by: Syncros on 16/09/2004 20:27:04
Mining ops do involve hauling across multiple systems, although escorts are a possibility i do not believe it to be a necessary and appropriate use of resources..
I'm not going to ***** any longer anyway as im not effected and it's not in my jurisdiction, but i kept hearing about various attacks that are happening and was curious as to what others had to say, i personally don't see how ca playing "shadow games" (logging on/off constantly & "hit & running") is of any tactical advantage what so ever as ships & resources are quickly replaced . If anyone could experience what is happening down here i'm sure you would share the same views. Sorry if people think im being ignorant but it's only my opinion
(Please remember this is an RP forum)
Well you asked for opinions. I not only gave you an opinion but also an option to turn this to your tactical advantage. If you do not choose to use your resources to take advantage of the situation thatÆs completely up to you.
Now you also did not mention anything, until now, about them logging off and then back on. While I am unclear exactly what this ôLogging on and offö is, it sounds like the tactic of a coward. Hit and run however is a viable and time honored tactic, where a small strike force goes into enemy space hits a target and then high tails it back to their own region of control before overwhelming odds turn against them.
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 21:09:00 -
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Due to security issue's i can't revial or discuss to much.. But these attacks won't go un noticed and if anything it has woken people up to the threat that is indeed apparent.
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Syncros
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Posted - 2004.09.16 21:09:00 -
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Due to security issue's i can't revial or discuss to much.. But these attacks won't go un noticed and if anything it has woken people up to the threat that is indeed apparent.
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Princess Ardalla
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Posted - 2004.09.16 22:32:00 -
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Perhaps a mod should move this to the corporations forum?
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Princess Ardalla
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Posted - 2004.09.16 22:32:00 -
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Perhaps a mod should move this to the corporations forum?
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.09.17 18:23:00 -
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LOL
What about picking up guns and helping in the defense of Omist in stead of whining in here?
You're a disgrace to the XETIC alliance as a whole!
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I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.09.17 18:23:00 -
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LOL
What about picking up guns and helping in the defense of Omist in stead of whining in here?
You're a disgrace to the XETIC alliance as a whole!
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I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.09.17 23:50:00 -
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Lad, like the others, i'll say afew points to you.
We're at war.
You are the enemy.
You are a legitimate target if yer in a mining ship, a hauler or a combat fitted ship. You're a legitimate target if you are even in a pod floating in space. *sighs* Lad, as an enemy, you'll get shot as we wreck havoc in your systems just like you occasionally come up and try to do the same in our systems.
If you're so bent outta shape about those kinda things, complain and try and get your up and ups to arrange a ceasefire. Won't happen though as you're mainly rich kiddies having fun and playing at pilot while your enlisted crews get turned to vaccum snacks while you wake up in a cloning vat.
Ach well, no skin of ma nose like, I'm having braw fun, just you dinna go complaining about it so much.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.09.17 23:50:00 -
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Lad, like the others, i'll say afew points to you.
We're at war.
You are the enemy.
You are a legitimate target if yer in a mining ship, a hauler or a combat fitted ship. You're a legitimate target if you are even in a pod floating in space. *sighs* Lad, as an enemy, you'll get shot as we wreck havoc in your systems just like you occasionally come up and try to do the same in our systems.
If you're so bent outta shape about those kinda things, complain and try and get your up and ups to arrange a ceasefire. Won't happen though as you're mainly rich kiddies having fun and playing at pilot while your enlisted crews get turned to vaccum snacks while you wake up in a cloning vat.
Ach well, no skin of ma nose like, I'm having braw fun, just you dinna go complaining about it so much.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Syncros
I realise we are at war with CA
These 8 words make the rest of your post redundant.
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
"You can't love life too much. Everybody dies." |
Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Syncros
I realise we are at war with CA
These 8 words make the rest of your post redundant.
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
"You can't love life too much. Everybody dies." |
Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.18 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Syncros
Edited by: Syncros on 16/09/2004 20:27:04
Mining ops do involve hauling across multiple systems, although escorts are a possibility i do not believe it to be a necessary and appropriate use of resources..
<Yoda>
And that, is why you fail...
</Yoda>
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.18 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Syncros
Edited by: Syncros on 16/09/2004 20:27:04
Mining ops do involve hauling across multiple systems, although escorts are a possibility i do not believe it to be a necessary and appropriate use of resources..
<Yoda>
And that, is why you fail...
</Yoda>
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2004.09.18 17:14:00 -
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I would complain too... except we are doing the same thing back to them .
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Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2004.09.18 17:14:00 -
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I would complain too... except we are doing the same thing back to them .
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.09.18 17:34:00 -
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Summary of post:
'ONOES CA ARE GANKING OUR MINERS PLZ STOP ITS NOT FAIR'
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.09.18 17:34:00 -
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Summary of post:
'ONOES CA ARE GANKING OUR MINERS PLZ STOP ITS NOT FAIR'
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.09.18 18:27:00 -
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 STFU Carebear Please go back to empire if you cant cut 0.0.. i wodner why im in an alliance with you
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.09.18 18:27:00 -
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STFU Carebear Please go back to empire if you cant cut 0.0.. i wodner why im in an alliance with you
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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