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ThanatosM	Posted - 2009.06.22 07:08:00 - [1] what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.22 07:22:00 - [2] Propulsion jamming, frigate, weapons for that frig Originally by: darkrei9n Because Minmatar ships smell like garbage, Amarr ships smell like incense and that stuff, Caldari ships smell like a hospital, and Gallente ships smell like French people.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.06.22 07:23:00 - [3] Mining V, cloaking V and target painting V are the must haves. Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.22 08:10:00 - [4] Defender Missiles V too
LordSwift Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.22 08:14:00 - [5] Dont be lazy and start from scratch. You obviously have no clue about what your doing so it might be worth you playing from the beginning and learn that way. Rather than jump in with a already trained pilot.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.22 08:28:00 - [6] Originally by: LordSwift Dont be lazy and start from scratch. You obviously have no clue about what your doing so it might be worth you playing from the beginning and learn that way. Rather than jump in with a already trained pilot. Oh I beg to differ, it's more funny when the new people buy combat characters and try to solopwn someone Originally by: darkrei9n Because Minmatar ships smell like garbage, Amarr ships smell like incense and that stuff, Caldari ships smell like a hospital, and Gallente ships smell like French people.
Mavrix Able Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.06.22 08:31:00 - [7] Edited by: Mavrix Able on 22/06/2009 08:32:05 Nerve IV, Fleet Comms Discipline II, Cool under Fire IV, Overview Controls III, Spatial Orientation II are the basics I guess. Of the more advanced skills are: Precognition, Lag Engineering and Outcome Analysis. Bad thing is these skills aren't seeded on the market, the good thing is you can train them parallel to your the "regular" EVE skills. EDIT: Oh and don't forget Ship Setup Understanding IV -NWS/Mav
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.22 08:32:00 - [8] Originally by: ThanatosM what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot. Patience, situation awareness, fitting for purpose, fleet comms, fleet procedures, discipline, initiative, intuition.
LordSwift Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.22 08:41:00 - [9] Originally by: Intense Thinker Originally by: LordSwift Dont be lazy and start from scratch. You obviously have no clue about what your doing so it might be worth you playing from the beginning and learn that way. Rather than jump in with a already trained pilot. Oh I beg to differ, it's more funny when the new people buy combat characters and try to solopwn someone I am afriad that is true. but i still hate the character selling part of this game. makes people lazy. I may not have started when this game first came out but i have been playing for two years nearly and things are two easy now.
Maria Kalista Amarr Emerald Forest Securities	Posted - 2009.06.22 09:00:00 - [10] Originally by: ThanatosM what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot. OP: As you may be able to understand out of the above 'helpful' comments being made, its not the skills trained that make a good PvP character. If you don't know what you are doing then you are just throwing away money on a pre-build character. I can only suggest you follow the only useful advice given above wich is to do/ learn it yourself. Get in a frig, or with a bit more skills an interceptor, dig up some PvP fitting screens from here and there (battleclinic etc.) and have some fun. Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.

BIZZAROSTORMY	Posted - 2009.06.22 09:08:00 - [11] Patientce. The patience of Job.
Mish'Kala Minmatar Infiniti Matar Sleepless Knights Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.22 09:19:00 - [12] Welcome to Eve. Welcome to the Eve forums. You just had your first PVP experience, and lost. But to be halpful. Frigate 4, T2 weapons for Frigates. High Speed maneuvering, and Propulsion Jamming are the essential core skills. There are countless others that you will want too. but to many to list off here
Southern Suzy Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.06.22 10:29:00 - [13] Lag generation V, Remote Module Control V, Hacking V, InstaPwn V
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.22 10:43:00 - [14] pvp only go so far with your skills you cant buy expereince. if you buy a charater you get the skills but still lack the understanding of how to use the equipment efficiently and how far your boundires for the charater are. for people who have grown charaters we know how far we can push pvp before we go , i knkow i cant win that. i suggest you listen to people in the thread in what we are saying , it the expereince not the skills you own. start one from scratch is what i would suggest JOIN FOFF NOW CHAT CHANNEL FOR MORE INFO
Ralle030583 Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.22 10:46:00 - [15] Originally by: Mish'Kala Welcome to Eve. Welcome to the Eve forums. You just had your first PVP experience, and lost. But to be halpful. Frigate 4, T2 weapons for Frigates. High Speed maneuvering, and Propulsion Jamming are the essential core skills. There are countless others that you will want too. but to many to list off here this :)
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.06.22 10:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: ThanatosM what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot. Patience, situation awareness, fitting for purpose, fleet comms, fleet procedures, discipline, initiative, intuition. are you mad??? you cant post a serious and good answer like this in a general discussion thread.
LordSwift Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.22 10:53:00 - [17] Plus you will have your own character that you have created and i personally think it feels better to have a two year old character that you have invested a lot of time in and built yourself up from nothing. Plus you can pvp within a weeks training in a frigate, plenty of posts on this forum about people who have done that and some old players still do Join the brown Coats today!!!
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.22 10:56:00 - [18] someone in my corp called lolmygen killed a orca with a t1 punisher :) amarr FTW JOIN FOFF NOW CHAT CHANNEL FOR MORE INFO
Dalai Lama	Posted - 2009.06.22 12:03:00 - [19] skills are not a requirement for pvp anymore, just bring in your 3000 best friends
Belid Hagen Shade. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.06.22 12:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Dalai Lama skills are not a requirement for pvp anymore, just bring in your 3000 best friends As is always the case in EVE, there is always exceptions to the "rules"

Baron Aethon Ostium Orci	Posted - 2009.06.22 12:10:00 - [21] Anchoring V Propulsion Jamming V True fact, only bubbles give you PVP in EVE

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2009.06.22 12:53:00 - [22] Go pvp first with a new character or at least start pvping in frigates or other cheap ships. Otherwise it won¦t be a lot of fun and you won¦t learn much either.

Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.22 12:56:00 - [23] PvP is require skill of many colour they are all help to the cause of shooting ship in hull and remove isk from target of wallet in ship fit to guns and scrambler of the warp then a late buerner of a small driveing warp that make you go fast and space police pull over ship of you lololololol if start to pvp get a ship of bettle as battleing ship is good as it is powerfull guns and is strong in the mini ship inside of hull if not very strong in the bank vault you could get a cruiser battleing insdtead as it is considerably less in the money than a batteleng ship but if get a battleing cruiser make sure to fit good guns to it of the tech level second or fraction weapons as it will make your ship in vinceable in the battleground but never stay way big ship as learn do you not only in ships of the small stature as ships in the small stature do not do much of the second damage per and damage will only break the enemies armored car rather than ecm as ecm does not break the enemies armored car!!!!!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.06.22 13:01:00 - [24] if you are that clueless about what is good/bad, you are a ways off of even wanting to think about spending isk on a character. read the forums a bit, try some low end pvp, and watch some pvp videos. that should give you a good idea of what is good.
LordSwift Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.22 13:05:00 - [25] Cant go wrong if a dev thinks the same as most of the people on this topic. But why is caracter selling allowed? Do people use it for there alts or what? when i leave if i ever do for good. My character is being biomassed. No one else gets to use and abuse me.
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2009.06.22 13:09:00 - [26] Originally by: LordSwift No one else gets to use and abuse me.
LordSwift Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.22 13:10:00 - [27] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: LordSwift No one else gets to use and abuse me. Maybe if you ask nicely. isk might help sweeten the deal. Join the brown Coats today!!!
Zaphod Jones Minmatar Capitalistic Tendencies Red Dwarf Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.22 13:34:00 - [28] i have a friend selling a nyx maybe you could buy that
Petstretsi Zuborov	Posted - 2009.06.22 14:34:00 - [29] These days, most of the skills involve pressing ctl-q, unplugging you network, or using more than 1 account.
Jukhtress Mein	Posted - 2009.06.22 14:47:00 - [30] Fast reflexes is quite an important component, which is quite a pity. Spaceships battles really should be about detailed manueovering and strategy, not sit on a camp and use fastest fingers to lock onto something before it cloaks, nor spend 2 hours roaming about.

Thenoran Caldari Tranquility Industries	Posted - 2009.06.22 14:50:00 - [31] Pick a Frigate of your choice, learn the skill needed for it to IV and take a look at which skills you need for using its weaponry. In addition, learn skills to use a Warp Scrambler/Disruptor, Statis Webifier and 1MN MicroWarpdrive. The best way to learn is to get someone to teach you though, learn you the ropes by flying with him. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
Goyda The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2009.06.22 15:24:00 - [32] Some good some bad in here but I'll weigh in. I think a key point is know what the heck you are flying. Know how long it takes to turn, to warp, know when the tank is going to break, know how long you can run all your modules and still have cap. Understand that sitting still and slugging it out is NOT better than orbiting and slugging it out. :) Learn the weaknesses of opposing ships you choose as a target, know the folks you are flying with and how they respond. Do not rush into a 'bigger' ship just because it is bigger. Build up experience, and the way to do it is to go into low-sec/0.0 and PVP. Also....know when to run. Do something to build up some ISK. You will lose ships that is for certain. Mainly develop experience in doing it. And as said before: If you're in a gang listen to the FC even if it means flying to your death, don't ask stupid questions on voice comms during an op in other words during an OP STFU, Listen to the FC and which target he/she calls primary. But start on the cheap..t1 frig, disruptor, best weap fit for the ship...and a getaway plan for when things go wrong. :)
Hariya	Posted - 2009.06.22 15:32:00 - [33] Originally by: ThanatosM what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot. You need scrambler. ECM modules are nice as well. After that it's all upto your tank/gank skills and how you fit. Tbh the pvp in EVE is executed primarily in stations, calculating the effectiveness of your modules and fitting them. The actual fighting itself does not require any real player skills. You seriously don't want or need to buy a character for pvp. Any PVE character can obtain the required missing skills in couple weeks. Also, pvp is all about numbers. It doesn't matter how crappy you are if you bring enough of friendlies with you - you will win.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.06.22 15:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: ThanatosM what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot. Patience, situation awareness, fitting for purpose, fleet comms, fleet procedures, discipline, initiative, intuition. But! he wants to buy the character, not learn how to PVP. OP, buy the most expensive one there, he'll surely be the best, fit it with the best, most expensive modules, lock the target in low-sec/high-sec, and shoot it, your character will be so good he won't have to be in range.
Baron Agamemnon Caldari Holy Grail Construction	Posted - 2009.06.22 16:08:00 - [35] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Go pvp first with a new character or at least start pvping in frigates or other cheap ships. Otherwise it won¦t be a lot of fun and you won¦t learn much either. Sound advise this. Its how I started PvPing. I just hopped into a cheap ship, got blown up a few times and then I started to understand how PvP really worked, and now I mange to kick more ass then I get handed to me
Xianbei	Posted - 2009.06.22 16:26:00 - [36] Originally by: ThanatosM what kinds of skill is pvp require? I want to buy a pvp cha but I do not know which one is better in pvp.so help me pls.Thanks alot. pvp cha is highly overrated pvp green tea is MUCH better if you are on a tight budget, maybe pvp earl grey, but go for green tea as soon as you can
Clair Bear Perkone	Posted - 2009.06.22 17:48:00 - [37] Everyone here has mislead you. What you need: Blobbing V. Advanced Blobbing V. Capital Ship Blobbing V. For a more leaderly role, Counter-Blobbing IV, Tactical Blob Operation I and Alt Scout operation I. To futureproof you may wish to start training up Supercap Blobbing as well. There is no such thing as PvP. There is however P3+vP (gank), P10+vP3 (small gang fight), P30+vsP (roam), P200vP50 (fleet op), P400vP200 (fun with POSes) and P10000vP5000 (alliance politics). If you're not outblobbing some poor ******* at least 3 to 1 you are doing it wrong. And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.22 17:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Clair Bear Everyone here has mislead you. What you need: Blobbing V. Advanced Blobbing V. Capital Ship Blobbing V. For a more leaderly role, Counter-Blobbing IV, Tactical Blob Operation I and Alt Scout operation I. To futureproof you may wish to start training up Supercap Blobbing as well. There is no such thing as PvP. There is however P3+vP (gank), P10+vP3 (small gang fight), P30+vsP (roam), P200vP50 (fleet op), P400vP200 (fun with POSes) and P10000vP5000 (alliance politics). If you're not outblobbing some poor ******* at least 3 to 1 you are doing it wrong. I love people who think like this. They are fun to kill.
Jade Elaira Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.22 18:15:00 - [39] To be of ship but not like pvp of like? Of not but fighting to do need of ship of not mining shoot. Of needed is skill of old not of players But not around of the might too class damage, to do? Of flyer not may need of the rolling of barrel. too please truly go make sure roale of not rick but turn. Said of all, not of say of play. make shoot of not ship of any, of like want you. Last of anything to be good need of you is tell player like of want, of that? of you thanks, luck with the good of players.
Clair Bear Perkone	Posted - 2009.06.22 18:31:00 - [40] Edited by: Clair Bear on 22/06/2009 18:31:29 Originally by: Malcanis I love people who think like this. They are fun to kill. Took the liberty of browsing The Initiative's killboard for the last week. In almost every you made it onto the killmail in your zealot there was sizable blob helping you. I did a quick browse through the first couple of pages and did not see you as the final blower even once, suggesting you don't do much PvP -- you seem to prefer a support role in a pack. I think the shortest killmail was 4 people vs. a rupture. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to compare epeen lengths. But you are a poster child for my argument, not against it. Eve is first and foremost a numbers game. And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question?

Cat Molina Minmatar Intransigent	Posted - 2009.06.22 18:45:00 - [41] OP: Listen carefully. Take a brand new player, give him a character with years worth of skills and ISK, plop him in a faction-fit battleship and drop him into low-sec/0.0. He'll last about a minute or two before being torn apart. But take a PvP veteran and have him make a new character. Within two days he'll be racking up kills. Skills, ships, and modules are only tools. They allow more variety, but are unable to win battles by themselves. It is the mind behind the keyboard which makes a character dangerous... not his skills or equipment Start at the beginning; make a new character, get out there in frigates and learn PvP.
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.22 19:52:00 - [42] smacktalk V is most esential 60D GTC - shattared link
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.06.22 19:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Clair Bear Edited by: Clair Bear on 22/06/2009 18:31:29 Originally by: Malcanis I love people who think like this. They are fun to kill. Took the liberty of browsing The Initiative's killboard for the last week. In almost every you made it onto the killmail in your zealot there was sizable blob helping you. I did a quick browse through the first couple of pages and did not see you as the final blower even once, suggesting you don't do much PvP -- you seem to prefer a support role in a pack. I think the shortest killmail was 4 people vs. a rupture. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to compare epeen lengths. But you are a poster child for my argument, not against it. Eve is first and foremost a numbers game. http://killboard.the-initiative.com/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=462&view=pilot_blow It is worth noting - should you care to - that apart from the "LOL why did he jump through on his own?" ganks, most of the multiple vs multiple fights... I was on the outnumbered side.


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