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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2009.06.26 15:52:00 -
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Below is our first installment of our CSM interviews CCP feature. Enjoy!
1. Are there still plans for a complete UI overhaul?
We're incrementally overhauling the UI in EVE and we have a team of dedicated UI designers that make sure all new UI designs adhere to certain usability and functionality standards. They are also going over older aspects and reworking them, but as we all know EVE is vast and therefore this will take time.
2. What happened to the QEN in 2008? Do you intend to continue with the QEN for 2009 on schedule?
Back in 2008 we lacked two vital things to ensure high quality QENÆs, the first was resources to get data and the second was people to analyze that data. Once we had secured new resources the economic crisis that hit the world, and locally in Iceland, late 2008 demanded considerable time from the Research and Statistics team simply sorting out what was exactly what was going on and how it would potentially impact CCP and its staff. Today we find ourselves in a much different place knowing that the economic crisis has not affected CCP as company, we have the resources we need and can therefore make sure the QENÆs are done as planned from now on.
3. Will we see an upgrade to the forums at any point?
There are some exciting new things on the works, but weÆre not able to talk about them just yet.
4. Will Zulupark do more "Ask Uncle-Zulu" session?
Whether Zulupark does them, or someone else, there will be more "ask and ye shall receive answers" threads coming in the future.
5. With Caldari occupying all Gallente space in Factional Warfare, what are the consequences of this? Do you have any plans for the future of Factional Warfare?
We plan the NPC timeline for events leading up to expansions, coordinating the release of news and integrating the high level plot with chronicles, video, and everything else we can. This year, our storyline theme was to try and ôcross the streamsö more, meaning that we were going to look for ways to weave the exploits of capsuleers into the NPC canon. The Caldari sweep of contestable Federation space gave us the perfect context to do just that. By the time this yearÆs winter expansion is released, it will be clear that the NPC storyline events revealed then have direct origins to this player-generated event. In other words, it definitely shaped our storyline objectives, and fits perfectly with concurrent efforts to raise the visibility of player group actions in general.
(Future installments, as well as this one, can be found in the EVElopedia).
Fallout
Associate Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.06.26 17:10:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Fallout
3. Will we see an upgrade to the forums at any point?
There are some exciting new things on the works, but weÆre not able to talk about them just yet.
You're not able to talk about FORUM UPGRADES??? The only thing that comes to mind here is that this is just another coy way of saying "soon". And we all know what that means.
And calling forum upgrades 'exciting' is a good sign of how bad the current situation is.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
4. Will Zulupark do more "Ask Uncle-Zulu" session?
Whether Zulupark does them, or someone else, there will be more "ask and ye shall receive answers" threads coming in the future.
I would much rather have Zulupark do a status of the items from his last Q&A session. Especially some interesting stuff (*cough* delayed Local) that was slated for the first quarter of this year.
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2009.06.26 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: CCP Fallout
3. Will we see an upgrade to the forums at any point?
There are some exciting new things on the works, but we’re not able to talk about them just yet.
You're not able to talk about FORUM UPGRADES??? The only thing that comes to mind here is that this is just another coy way of saying "soon". And we all know what that means.
And calling forum upgrades 'exciting' is a good sign of how bad the current situation is.
Maybe he hints at the plans of cosmos 2.0 mentioned at fanfest? With a website for market, contracts, forums, calender etc. |
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.06.26 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Amerilia
Maybe he hints at the plans of cosmos 2.0 mentioned at fanfest? With a website for market, contracts, forums, calender etc.
I think that the issue of awful forum software is quite separate from any OOG EVE information site, and could have been resolved years ago, given an absolute minimum amount of attention from CCP.
The EVE info stuff could be added onto it at will (or 'soon' for all I care).
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Musashibou Benkei
Caldari
Combined Imperial Fleet
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Posted - 2009.06.26 17:45:00 -
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It's amazing how ignorant both CCP and the CSM are about anything other than trivial "upgrades" and "changes" or looking more and more into 0.0 life rather than fixing current issues and looking into high sec stuff more
A good indicator of this is that 2 people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM. Good stuff with balancing the representatives completely in the hands of 0.0 people with no regard for anything else other than their own purposes
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.26 17:50:00 -
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Good to hear that the FW stuff hasn't gone completely unnoticed, but what is planned with fixes to the fundemental FW game mechanics?
AKA the complexes, and everything buggy around them.
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2009.06.26 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Musashibou Benkei
A good indicator of this is that 2 people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM. Good stuff with balancing the representatives completely in the hands of 0.0 people with no regard for anything else other than their own purposes
You Sir need to buy either glasses or brain, or even both.
Btw one more question for CCP. Can you spend next time more then 2 minutes on answering this questions.
Thank you. |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: LaVista Vista on 26/06/2009 18:05:27
To be honest, that was a bit tame.
Question 1: CCP Hellmar said during the first live dev-blog, Trinity 2.0 would bring a COMPLETELY new user-interface.
Was this forgotten about or not? Source(08:30)
Question 3: Way to not answering the question 
Question 4: SoonÖ? Not very specific. |
Dragon Greg
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Musashibou Benkei
A good indicator of this is that 2 people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM. Good stuff with balancing the representatives completely in the hands of 0.0 people with no regard for anything else other than their own purposes
You Sir need to buy either glasses or brain, or even both.
Btw one more question for CCP. Can you spend next time more then 2 minutes on answering this questions.
Thank you.
Vuk, this is what happens when you spread so many pictures of yourself around. People see you as two people, either that or they are so impressed they crawl back thinking there must be multiple Vuk's.
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Arronicus
ZipZoom Kaboom
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:12:00 -
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Way to post the Q&A, without actually apparently putting much effort into answering the few questions there are.
As for #3, Youre not able to talk about them just yet. Is this because nothing has actually been developed yet and the team needs more time to make something up, or, being forum features, its just boring anyways and you hope we will forget?
Why are there all these future projects, when so much is still broken. Will stealth emitter arrays on poses ever, ever have a purpose in the game? Will the activation of guns ever be looked into under high lag situations, or a manner of remedying this? Will various ships or ship classes (ie the mothership, oneiros) ever be re-evaluated or balanced, to make them more in line with other races variants, or just given a useful role in the game?
PLEASE, PLEASE, do not release walking in stations until some of these issues have been fixed. |
Musashibou Benkei
Caldari
Combined Imperial Fleet
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Musashibou Benkei
A good indicator of this is that 2 people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM. Good stuff with balancing the representatives completely in the hands of 0.0 people with no regard for anything else other than their own purposes
You Sir need to buy either glasses or brain, or even both.
Btw one more question for CCP. Can you spend next time more then 2 minutes on answering this questions.
Thank you.
So, I'm sorry. Did I miss something? How many people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM? |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dragon Greg
Vuk, this is what happens when you spread so many pictures of yourself around. People see you as two people, either that or they are so impressed they crawl back thinking there must be multiple Vuk's.
We all know that there is a Vuk Lau and a Vik Luk on the CSM.  |
Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Musashibou Benkei
Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Musashibou Benkei
A good indicator of this is that 2 people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM. Good stuff with balancing the representatives completely in the hands of 0.0 people with no regard for anything else other than their own purposes
You Sir need to buy either glasses or brain, or even both.
Btw one more question for CCP. Can you spend next time more then 2 minutes on answering this questions.
Thank you.
So, I'm sorry. Did I miss something? How many people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM?
Well looks like you missed 1st grade of elementary school. 1=/=2 |
Traxio Nacho
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:43:00 -
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Very glad these questions were asked, I don't think Eve could carry on without them and fantastic detailed answers to boot what more can you ask for.
Very happy CCP spends money on the CSM
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Smog890
Minmatar
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:49:00 -
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WILL THE Latency of 50 people fleet fights about 25 each side shooting big fixed before you do this new content stuff??? if not then scrap the content and fixe the lag issue first! |
wtbrandomnamegenerator
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: wtbrandomnamegenerator on 26/06/2009 18:54:07
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Very glad these questions were asked, I don't think Eve could carry on without them and fantastic detailed answers to boot what more can you ask for.
Very happy CCP spends money on the CSM
Ok, i tried, and I can't leave this as a troll with even a half straight face.
This is by far some of the crappiest questions I've ever seen, and by and large are probably the farthest from the player bases concerns.
Seriously? THE FORUMS? FFS. |
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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2009.06.26 18:55:00 -
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Heya all,
I'd like to take the time to address the concerns you have regarding our forums. We are acutely aware of the issues many of you have reported in regards to logging into the forums and staying logged in. We're currently working on getting this issue resolved as quickly as possible, and ask for your patience in this matter.
And yes, good things will be coming in the future for forums. And no, not even cookies will inspire me to spill the beans. |
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.06.26 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Heya all,
I'd like to take the time to address the concerns you have regarding our forums. We are acutely aware of the issues many of you have reported in regards to logging into the forums and staying logged in. We're currently working on getting this issue resolved as quickly as possible, and ask for your patience in this matter.
And yes, good things will be coming in the future for forums. And no, not even cookies will inspire me to spill the beans.
But the future is a long time.
Will it be soon enough to prevent your userbase from getting RSI from logging in all the time? 
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.26 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: wtbrandomnamegenerator
Ok, i tried, and I can't leave this as a troll with even a half straight face.
This is by far some of the crappiest questions I've ever seen, and by and large are probably the farthest from the player bases concerns.
Seriously? THE FORUMS? FFS.
Keep in mind that these are only the initial questions and there will be more every month.
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Dragon Greg
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Posted - 2009.06.26 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Fallout
Heya all,
I'd like to take the time to address the concerns you have regarding our forums. We are acutely aware of the issues many of you have reported in regards to logging into the forums and staying logged in. We're currently working on getting this issue resolved as quickly as possible, and ask for your patience in this matter.
And yes, good things will be coming in the future for forums. And no, not even cookies will inspire me to spill the beans.
Ok, you asked for it .. I'm trying to get you to spill those beans with beer, lots of it, and great beer.
What do you do now 
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darkmancer
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Posted - 2009.06.26 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: darkmancer on 26/06/2009 20:01:35
Can we replace the CSM with a monkey?
Just as useful and around 10x more entertaining.
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There's a simple solution to every problem. It is always invariably wrong |
Amber Macx
Applied Physics Institute
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:13:00 -
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Perhaps elected CSM reps should avoid insulting their potential voters... |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.06.26 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Macx
Perhaps elected CSM reps should avoid insulting their potential voters...
Dare I suggest that "potential voters" should avoid insulting their elected CSM representatives? |
riverini
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: riverini on 26/06/2009 23:07:04
i got a fair share of questions that i believe would be more interesting that the op ones..:
6. What's the dealio with AMBULATION/Walk in Stations???
7. How much is Soon (tm) when u have more than 2 yrs saying that AMBULATION/Walk in Stations will come out soon?. is this a way to mock ur customers?
8. why did u guys announced a feature like AMBULATION/Walk in Stations with what seems to be a lot of pending work to do?
8. Why don't you guys use the cash that is used on the CSM and hire some more programmers to get AMBULATION/Walk in Stations ready?.
9. Who cares about the forums upgrades when a) Forums aren't broken b) CCP doesn't give us feedback on even in most-wanted features like WiS?.
10. Do u guys really read the forums and laugh at us, gullible fools who write in the forums waiting for our voices to be heard? if not, pls check the ambulations/wis forum post.
11. When would AMBULATION/Walk in Stations be realistically coming out?.
12. If Jumpgate Evolutions and Star Trek Online comes out before AMBULATION/Walk in Stations, do u guys think that would affect ur mainstream player base?
13. no am not obsessed with AMBULATION/Walk in Stations... 
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Praerian
Caldari
Muphrid Furud Initiative
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Praerian on 26/06/2009 23:12:06
Edited by: Praerian on 26/06/2009 23:10:15
You know just once I would love to be able to grab a company like CCP and shake them until they realise communication is key.
Everything on all their forums and posts are either stupidly vague or from 2008.
The CSM is a positive step in the general sense, concerns over some people's ego's being inflated, but that happens with most politicians (I hope CCP are checking the expense receipts... 1B isk for a duck pond in a titan?).
I think what the player base as a consensus would like is the following points:
1. CCP to be more open with a roadmap of where EVE is going...
yea we know you want to keep some suprises but you don't have to tell us the gory detail just a few specifics.
2. To admit mistakes or items that have been dropped or rethought.. FW anyone?
3. To feel that as customers we are taken seriously, I know CCP is a business but the customer should always be right, so many people saying communication from CCP is below standard would ring alarm bells at alot of other companies.
To balance the statement up a little with how we can help address this.
1. If an idea is dumped or postponed 1000's of emorage quit threads only serve to make developrs less likely to be open.. be understanding of the cycles of development.
2. Try and make the forums less of a troll mission and more of a discussion. ( will never happen but can hope).
3. Actually take the time to write to CCP and tell them there communication is poor.EMORAGE on the forums is not the way to do it..
We all love this game and we are passionate about it, so is CCP you would think there would be a common interest that would allow a middle ground between the two camps, we both invest a hell of alot in this so hopefully someone at CCP will read this and think, there is point to this ramble.
Editted spelling as the screen jumping makes me lose what i have typed*
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:12:00 -
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While I think any output of information by CCP is a good thing I must say the information content itself was very low.
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Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this!
Clear Skies - The Movie |
oniplE
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:49:00 -
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I'd rather see some more specific questions aimed at ingame matters. Its nice to know the forums will get upgraded, but i'm not exactly thrilled. But, good initiative i guess :)
x |
theshadowduke
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Posted - 2009.06.27 01:19:00 -
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lets hope the CSM bring up the dead horse that ccp have ignored for years. |
VheroKai
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.27 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: VheroKai on 27/06/2009 03:59:12
Quote:
1. Are there still plans for a complete UI overhaul?
We're incrementally overhauling the UI in EVE and we have a team of dedicated UI designers that make sure all new UI designs adhere to certain usability and functionality standards. They are also going over older aspects and reworking them, but as we all know EVE is vast and therefore this will take time.
In the past, we saw only incremental killing of the whole UI.
Every good step was subdued by no less than three bad steps.
An example? See.
All windows can now been moved? Good, now see - they are stacking even if tell them to not stack, two windows placed in the same corner been stacked atop eachother if you close and open one of them, and no way i can resize 2 of 3 windows in a "stack" at the same time. All or one...
How can I trust you this time?
Good god! What your artists using for paintjob? It's not Photoshop or GIMP, for sure. Cause both of them has PERFECT example of organising multiple windows in USABLE way without any ****.
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Originally by: Bunyip
The LOLqual is a capital-sized joke
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Halycon Gamma
Caldari
The Flying Tigers
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Posted - 2009.06.27 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: theshadowduke
lets hope the CSM bring up the dead horse that ccp have ignored for years.
They did actually. The first CSM brought it up on the trip to CCP. It got tabled because the Dev's have some grand plan for revamping 0.0, and would rather either toss it in with that, or get a working system for controlling nullsec out the door first. They did say some amount of development hours had been put into the dead horse problem.. but if that's a whiteboard and beer development hours, or actually doing work development hours... who knows. My personal guess is whiteboard and beer time.
Sometime there actually is information in the CSM stuff. Signal to Noise is very very high, but stuff is there. Don't particularly care for all the answers, specifically on something like that where I see the physical representation of a POS as having nothing to do with the sovereignty system. But what you gunna do?
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Kaessa Eshrine
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Posted - 2009.06.27 06:21:00 -
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After reading what little there was, I think CCP should consider selling the rights to EvE to someone or some group more competent an feeling for their customers.
Who thought up this questions? Perhaps there could of been more time an effort put into something more meaningful an useful?
It is not even logical to move forward with another expansion till more of the issues are resolved.
I really feel CCP doesn't care, CCP just feels the need to come up with something to try an make it look like they care.
Are the CSMs nothing more then puppets for CCP to feed them the Q&As? I really was hoping for better then this from them. |
Musashibou Benkei
Caldari
Combined Imperial Fleet
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Posted - 2009.06.27 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Musashibou Benkei
So, I'm sorry. Did I miss something? How many people from Morsus Mihi are on the CSM?
Well looks like you missed 1st grade of elementary school. 1=/=2
Good to see that an elected CSM is getting heated over like a kid going through puberty. I'll take that as a
"There are indeed 2 people from Morsus Mihi on the CSM but I'm too arrogant to admit that you're right" kinda answer |
Arkady Sadik
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:58:00 -
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Now that FW will apparently influence the backstory - are there any plans to address the most glaring bugs in it? Like the post-DT plex spawning?
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2009.06.27 12:51:00 -
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VERY VERY VERY dissapointed with this. Why the hell are you offering to ask questions when you dont answer them anyways... even I could have given these answers.
Cause basically with all your answers to every point you just said: We aint gonna tell you or its coming maybe sometime in the future.
Yeah, thanks for these glorious insights... |
Dr Karsun
Gallente
Empire News
True Intentions
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Posted - 2009.06.27 13:00:00 -
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Well, I'm surprised CCP didn't write a story earlyer... Gallente empire was to fall for a very long time, getting nearer and nearer, pilots (like me) quitting the faction warfare because it wasn't fun at all later when even in high sec and in missions one wasn't safe and the npc-militia didn't show up... Was just a matter of time untill the small militia (gallente) would decide a war without possible profit has no point. But that's just me ranting ;)
And seriously... Is there even ONE valuable information in this Q&A? I don't really see any.
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Lt Mooncat
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Posted - 2009.06.27 15:54:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Lt Mooncat on 27/06/2009 15:54:56
*tumbleweeds*
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.27 17:41:00 -
[37]
That's it? 5 stinking questions most of which are not even answered?
I hope this was a 5-min phone meeting, cuz it was not worth the electrons it took to post. |
Jimmy Duce
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Posted - 2009.06.27 20:47:00 -
[38]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Below is our first installment of our CSM interviews CCP feature. Enjoy!
[b]5. With Caldari occupying all Gallente space in Factional Warfare, what are the consequences of this? Do you have any plans for the future of Factional Warfare?
We plan the NPC timeline for events leading up to expansions, coordinating the release of news and integrating the high level plot with chronicles, video, and everything else we can. This year, our storyline theme was to try and ôcross the streamsö more, meaning that we were going to look for ways to weave the exploits of capsuleers into the NPC canon. The Caldari sweep of contestable Federation space gave us the perfect context to do just that. By the time this yearÆs winter expansion is released, it will be clear that the NPC storyline events revealed then have direct origins to this player-generated event. In other words, it definitely shaped our storyline objectives, and fits perfectly with concurrent efforts to raise the visibility of player group actions in general.
(Future installments, as well as this one, can be found in the EVElopedia).
Be careful cause the Gallente are gonna make a come back you just watch. |
Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.06.28 11:38:00 -
[39]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
5. With Caldari occupying all Gallente space in Factional Warfare, what are the consequences of this? Do you have any plans for the future of Factional Warfare?
We plan the NPC timeline for events leading up to expansions, coordinating the release of news and integrating the high level plot with chronicles, video, and everything else we can. This year, our storyline theme was to try and ôcross the streamsö more, meaning that we were going to look for ways to weave the exploits of capsuleers into the NPC canon. The Caldari sweep of contestable Federation space gave us the perfect context to do just that. By the time this yearÆs winter expansion is released, it will be clear that the NPC storyline events revealed then have direct origins to this player-generated event. In other words, it definitely shaped our storyline objectives, and fits perfectly with concurrent efforts to raise the visibility of player group actions in general.
Your future plans for FW are...... a story???? Wow thanks. |
Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.06.28 11:41:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Now that FW will apparently influence the backstory - are there any plans to address the most glaring bugs in it? Like the post-DT plex spawning?
That's not a bug. It's a basic design flaw.
Bugs would be capturing plexes while cloaked, capturing plexes while logged out etc.
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Daan Sai
Polytrope
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Posted - 2009.06.28 13:46:00 -
[41]
QQQQQ <- Qs without answers. :/
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NereSky
Gallente
The Good old Days
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Posted - 2009.06.28 13:54:00 -
[42]
Q) Why was this topic put forward http://evajobse.net/csmwiki/index.php/Forum_Issues_and_CSM
and this topic 'almost' ignored' http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1016688 ?
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YerGar BadgeSon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.28 14:08:00 -
[43]
It's nice to see a little info from the mouths that we feed now and then. I hope the the new content has as much fun as WH are offering at this point. keep it up CCP. |
WheatGrass
Gallente
Silent but Friendly
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Posted - 2009.06.28 14:49:00 -
[44]
Thank you.
The "CSM interviews CCP feature" seems like a great idea. I'll look forward to seen more.
Item 3 was of particular interest. It's nice to know that CCP is thinking of the forums.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.28 14:56:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Now that FW will apparently influence the backstory - are there any plans to address the most glaring bugs in it? Like the post-DT plex spawning?
While it would be nice if they would fix that too, there are about 200 other bugs higher on the list of things CCP should fix in FW if they would care about it.
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Redoubti
Amarr
Evil Dead L.L.C.
Machiavellian Insurrection
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Posted - 2009.06.28 14:58:00 -
[46]
/me reads the first post
IM not going to bother reading anything that has CSM in it from now. I don't know if the CSM had better questions or not. Or if CCP just pick the questions they wanted to answers. Either way it is clear to me the system has failed and it should be sc****d. And from reading the other responses, I can see im not alone in this. Its nice not to be in the minority for once.
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Redoubti
Amarr
Evil Dead L.L.C.
Machiavellian Insurrection
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Posted - 2009.06.28 15:00:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Redoubti
/me reads the first post
IM not going to bother reading anything that has CSM in it from now. I don't know if the CSM had better questions or not. Or if CCP just pick the questions they wanted to answers. Either way it is clear to me the system has failed and it should be sc****d. And from reading the other responses, I can see im not alone in this. Its nice not to be in the minority for once.
And why the hell is "scra ped" censored?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.06.28 15:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Redoubti
And why the hell is "scra ped" censored?
Because you're missing a 'p' for scrapped and the word filter just tried to save you from this embarrassment.
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.06.28 17:22:00 -
[49]
i donno.
to be honest this is quite a short Q&A, and the quality of the answeres
don't really justify the effort of posting it imo.
if ccp feels like answering questions, they should just make an ldb
like they did in the past, taking questions from the players directly.
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Malorek
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Posted - 2009.06.28 17:26:00 -
[50]
Not only am I disappointed in the answers given, I am disappointed in the questions asked.
Allowing CCP to approve/disapprove questions that are asked by giving vague or non-answers is a sham and undermines the whole point of the CSM.
I ask, if we, the player base, allow CCP to mold and guide the actions of the CSM in a diretion that gives us results as bad as this first month's questionaire, then the CSM should be disbanded. There is no point. Too much money for a lack of results.
While the CSM is a coduit from the player base to CCP, it is clearly showing a lack of interest in the pressing issues facing the player base.
Here is my proposal. 1. Since CCP obviously doesnt want to spend any time at all answering the questions thought to be the most important at the moment by the CSM, we should increase the amount by 100%.
2. Create a forum environment where the player base can post and vote on questions. The top 6 of these questions each month are to be asked by the CSM to CCP.
The remaining 4 are left to the CSM to draft and ask.
3. The results are posted on the forums as they are now.
Potential Problems:
A. CCP still doesnt respect the player base or the CSM and gives lackluster and non-answers.
B. EVE players are dumb, and by dumb I mean they post non-sensical and asinine posts mostly of which are trolls and serve no purpose other than to fulfill a fleeting but personal satisfation. (I too am guilty of this.) They may try to fix the vote and vote for a dumb question of absolutely no purpose ([cough]GOONS[/cough]). But again this would only reflect the atmosphere created by CCP over time and their answers to the questions.
C. No one really cares and they just act like they do.
The whole point of this is to bring good questions that actually matter to the player base and then have CCP respect this and answer with the conviction of a Preacher and not of a Felon, as they have so far.
But what do I know? I am just a stupid Goon. |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2009.06.29 03:49:00 -
[51]
Five superficial questions is all you could come up with?
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Musashibou Benkei
Caldari
Combined Imperial Fleet
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:22:00 -
[52]
I wonder how many CCP devs it takes to answer important questions to the capsuleer population..........?
I'm guessing that even with the whole company behind it, it can't answer them properly because they clearly do not care and the greatest example of that are these 5 trivial questions which almost no one cares about.
I agree with the opinion that it wouldn't matter if the CSM was a bunch of monkeys, it wouldn't be any different (and a lot more fun)
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henchana
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: riverini
Edited by: riverini on 26/06/2009 23:07:04
i got a fair share of questions that i believe would be more interesting that the op ones..:
6. What's the dealio with AMBULATION/Walk in Stations???
7. How much is Soon (tm) when u have more than 2 yrs saying that AMBULATION/Walk in Stations will come out soon?. is this a way to mock ur customers?
8. why did u guys announced a feature like AMBULATION/Walk in Stations with what seems to be a lot of pending work to do?
8. Why don't you guys use the cash that is used on the CSM and hire some more programmers to get AMBULATION/Walk in Stations ready?.
9. Who cares about the forums upgrades when a) Forums aren't broken b) CCP doesn't give us feedback on even in most-wanted features like WiS?.
10. Do u guys really read the forums and laugh at us, gullible fools who write in the forums waiting for our voices to be heard? if not, pls check the ambulations/wis forum post.
11. When would AMBULATION/Walk in Stations be realistically coming out?.
12. If Jumpgate Evolutions and Star Trek Online comes out before AMBULATION/Walk in Stations, do u guys think that would affect ur mainstream player base?
13. no am not obsessed with AMBULATION/Walk in Stations...
To be honest, Walk in stations would make it more WoW like == CRAPPY
buy-bild-mine-fly-bond-kill-and-be merry is the name of the game (one of the names) but when just this is buggy then Walk in station should just walk on by!
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henchana
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:30:00 -
[54]
All aboute EVE: The kite is grounded. Get it air borne damn it!
All aboute Forum: This is where we let of steam!
All about CSM: The representatives represent the ones that voted for them. Big surprise???
All about CCP: CCP wants to keep EVERYBODY happy hence will make EVERYBODY sad. Included in EVERYBODY is ofcourse the investors! Surprised??? You should not be. Without them we would all still play MINEFIELD (if you are old enough to remember :-)) Now we dowload the patch and keep playing
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Vilgan i'Lakin
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:45:00 -
[55]
wow...
just...
wow...
Pretty soft questions, which got pretty useless answers. Hopefully this gets more than a 5 second brushoff in future incarnations.
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Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2009.06.29 13:09:00 -
[56]
Lol, think it would have been better (ie. less embarrassing) to not post anything at all than these 5 Q&A questions ...
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riverini
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Posted - 2009.06.29 14:40:00 -
[57]
Originally by: henchana
Originally by: riverini
Edited by: riverini on 26/06/2009 23:07:04
i got a fair share of questions that i believe would be more interesting that the op ones..:
6. What's the dealio with AMBULATION/Walk in Stations???
7. How much is Soon (tm) when u have more than 2 yrs saying that AMBULATION/Walk in Stations will come out soon?. is this a way to mock ur customers?
8. why did u guys announced a feature like AMBULATION/Walk in Stations with what seems to be a lot of pending work to do?
8. Why don't you guys use the cash that is used on the CSM and hire some more programmers to get AMBULATION/Walk in Stations ready?.
9. Who cares about the forums upgrades when a) Forums aren't broken b) CCP doesn't give us feedback on even in most-wanted features like WiS?.
10. Do u guys really read the forums and laugh at us, gullible fools who write in the forums waiting for our voices to be heard? if not, pls check the ambulations/wis forum post.
11. When would AMBULATION/Walk in Stations be realistically coming out?.
12. If Jumpgate Evolutions and Star Trek Online comes out before AMBULATION/Walk in Stations, do u guys think that would affect ur mainstream player base?
13. no am not obsessed with AMBULATION/Walk in Stations...
To be honest, Walk in stations would make it more WoW like == CRAPPY
buy-bild-mine-fly-bond-kill-and-be merry is the name of the game (one of the names) but when just this is buggy then Walk in station should just walk on by!
Well as long as they keep it "sandbox" style, am sure it will be 100% better than wow, if they take the theme park approach.... Synchelle, we got a problem!!!
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NereSky
Gallente
The Good old Days
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Posted - 2009.06.29 17:50:00 -
[58]
Edited by: NereSky on 29/06/2009 17:50:27
Very disappointing, RL professional politicians are less obviously uninterested 2/10 for well coz im gnerous
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Pello Mei
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Posted - 2009.06.29 18:03:00 -
[59]
I saw on facebook about a Q&A so thought it would be interesting, well I was severely disappointed. 5 questions and not all of the were even answered. Should have just skipped it all together as it just makes CCP look like it doesn't care.
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Zarak1 Kenpach1
R.E.C.O.N.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.06.29 18:18:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 on 29/06/2009 18:22:15
i would like to point out that i did not vote for any of you all and had kevin griswold whoever that may be had been elected these questions would of been about 10 times more relevant to the average user than this crap.
Shame on you mazz and the morsus duo. your prominent players from zero sec pvp orgs and you waste it on that crap.
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progodlegend
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Posted - 2009.06.29 18:32:00 -
[61]
Edited by: progodlegend on 29/06/2009 18:34:11
I have never seen more winers in one place at a time. It's like you guys have never played another mmo before. Want some real fun with the Devs, go play an SOE game, or Age of conan, those are great fun. I mean honestly the only thing people should be complaining about is the ****ty questions CSM asked.
Forums are Forums, what is the problem with them?
Who gives a **** about ambulation, you ever play earth and beyond? nothing special
A QEN would be cool not going to lie, but till then I will rely on my own ability to understand whats going on in the eve economy, you know, actual skill.
I think the UI is fine, so I have to move a window everynow and then cause it messed up my placement, OMG RAGEUIT NOOO **** CCPP THIS SUCKKSSSSSS!!!!111!!1!1 No stop *****ing
Caldari won FW, cool, you know what happens when you win the war, you get to stop fighting the war, so go do something else, orr, some of you could quit and it would be fair, I mean when I was in FW yall always had like 2 to 1 numbers on Gallente, and for a while they kicked your ass anyway(btw people *****ed too much about FW as well, when I was in amarr FW, it was badass.)
Thats about all I got, except for the fact that people need to stop *****ing about this game, although time, its ok to want some changes. but i've never seen so many people just complain about everything and call for a new company and blah blah blah who cares. Guys CCP has only improved this game from Day 1, it used to suck, it really did. CCP worked their ass off to make it really interesting and now its the best game out there I think. It's rare to see a company still involed in a game like this 6 years after its release. So just enjoy it, and instead of *****ing cause, oh noes my show info window displayed my local, OMG **** THIS. No, just relax, and move the local window back, its ok, trust me.
There is one issue that I have seen that I think has become a problem, and I think its the gun cycle lag that occurs in large battles. It makes fighting the battle tough, and its the one issue I would like to see fixed, but untill then, I'm just going to adapt or die.
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NereSky
Gallente
The Good old Days
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Posted - 2009.06.29 19:08:00 -
[62]
Originally by: progodlegend
Edited by: progodlegend on 29/06/2009 18:34:11
I have never seen more winers in one place at a time. It's like you guys have never played another mmo before. Want some real fun with the Devs, go play an SOE game, or Age of conan, those are great fun. I mean honestly the only thing people should be complaining about is the ****ty questions CSM asked.
Forums are Forums, what is the problem with them?
Who gives a **** about ambulation, you ever play earth and beyond? nothing special
A QEN would be cool not going to lie, but till then I will rely on my own ability to understand whats going on in the eve economy, you know, actual skill.
I think the UI is fine, so I have to move a window everynow and then cause it messed up my placement, OMG RAGEUIT NOOO **** CCPP THIS SUCKKSSSSSS!!!!111!!1!1 No stop *****ing
Caldari won FW, cool, you know what happens when you win the war, you get to stop fighting the war, so go do something else, orr, some of you could quit and it would be fair, I mean when I was in FW yall always had like 2 to 1 numbers on Gallente, and for a while they kicked your ass anyway(btw people *****ed too much about FW as well, when I was in amarr FW, it was badass.)
Thats about all I got, except for the fact that people need to stop *****ing about this game, although time, its ok to want some changes. but i've never seen so many people just complain about everything and call for a new company and blah blah blah who cares. Guys CCP has only improved this game from Day 1, it used to suck, it really did. CCP worked their ass off to make it really interesting and now its the best game out there I think. It's rare to see a company still involed in a game like this 6 years after its release. So just enjoy it, and instead of *****ing cause, oh noes my show info window displayed my local, OMG **** THIS. No, just relax, and move the local window back, its ok, trust me.
There is one issue that I have seen that I think has become a problem, and I think its the gun cycle lag that occurs in large battles. It makes fighting the battle tough, and its the one issue I would like to see fixed, but untill then, I'm just going to adapt or die.
Thats a new one whining about the whiners 
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riverini
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Posted - 2009.06.29 19:21:00 -
[63]
Originally by: progodlegend
Edited by: progodlegend on 29/06/2009 18:34:11
I have never seen more winers in one place at a time. It's like you guys have never played another mmo before. Want some real fun with the Devs, go play an SOE game, or Age of conan, those are great fun. I mean honestly the only thing people should be complaining about is the ****ty questions CSM asked.
Forums are Forums, what is the problem with them?
Who gives a **** about ambulation, you ever play earth and beyond? nothing special
A QEN would be cool not going to lie, but till then I will rely on my own ability to understand whats going on in the eve economy, you know, actual skill.
I think the UI is fine, so I have to move a window everynow and then cause it messed up my placement, OMG RAGEUIT NOOO **** CCPP THIS SUCKKSSSSSS!!!!111!!1!1 No stop *****ing
Caldari won FW, cool, you know what happens when you win the war, you get to stop fighting the war, so go do something else, orr, some of you could quit and it would be fair, I mean when I was in FW yall always had like 2 to 1 numbers on Gallente, and for a while they kicked your ass anyway(btw people *****ed too much about FW as well, when I was in amarr FW, it was badass.)
Thats about all I got, except for the fact that people need to stop *****ing about this game, although time, its ok to want some changes. but i've never seen so many people just complain about everything and call for a new company and blah blah blah who cares. Guys CCP has only improved this game from Day 1, it used to suck, it really did. CCP worked their ass off to make it really interesting and now its the best game out there I think. It's rare to see a company still involed in a game like this 6 years after its release. So just enjoy it, and instead of *****ing cause, oh noes my show info window displayed my local, OMG **** THIS. No, just relax, and move the local window back, its ok, trust me.
There is one issue that I have seen that I think has become a problem, and I think its the gun cycle lag that occurs in large battles. It makes fighting the battle tough, and its the one issue I would like to see fixed, but untill then, I'm just going to adapt or die.
FAIL
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Fortis Valentis
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Posted - 2009.06.29 21:43:00 -
[64]
I want only one thing, and it's so minor as to be done in a patch: make can flipping a CONCORD sanctioned crime. Make it a loss of security status and GCC for can flipping, a.k.a. THEFT, and you can shut down what I see as a completely infantile type of piracy. Ninja salvaging is almost as bad...
These questions are definitely not worth the photons they're made of, and the answers are even worse. Way to go CSM and CCP. |
Kylie Rain
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Posted - 2009.06.29 22:37:00 -
[65]
Sorry to but in like this but I just had a quick question. Right now I want to do a eve fan comic about my corp and I would like to know who I need to talk to get promision so I don't comite plagiarism against ccp and eve online
Thank for your time.
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Rydra Wong
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.29 23:11:00 -
[66]
Inadequate questions that aren't a real focus of the playerbase (Most of us want you to fix gameplay/bugs before fixing the out of game stuff and adding new content/stories.)
Inadequate answers, if you can't at least give us vague time schedules or details on things don't even bother.
All questions asked and answered provided us with no more information than we already knew; that the forums needed some lovin', Faction Warfare needs attention not just ignoring and continuing a broken feature.
As to QEN + Zulu doing Q&A.... lol. I really can't think of anything constructive to add to that.
5/10 for effort, 1/10 for content.
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Odinegras
Gallente
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.06.30 20:12:00 -
[67]
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Heya all,
I'd like to take the time to address the concerns you have regarding our forums. We are acutely aware of the issues many of you have reported in regards to logging into the forums and staying logged in. We're currently working on getting this issue resolved as quickly as possible, and ask for your patience in this matter.
And yes, good things will be coming in the future for forums. And no, not even cookies will inspire me to spill the beans.
Its only been like that 4 years, you might aswell leave it.
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ctx2007
Minmatar
Wychwood and Wells
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Posted - 2009.07.01 05:17:00 -
[68]
Will CCP get the ingame space flight and general game play fixed before the walk in part is introduced?
EVE is a game and a damn good one too |
Hakkar'al Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.02 08:47:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Fortis Valentis
I want only one thing, and it's so minor as to be done in a patch: make can flipping a CONCORD sanctioned crime. Make it a loss of security status and GCC for can flipping,
Hehe, that wouldn't help much - and why would it.
People whining about can flippers are simply sad, you'll make as much in the next hour that you lost. Get over it.
I'm with progodlegend on this.
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Soldarius Met
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Posted - 2009.07.03 17:03:00 -
[70]
Only two things I'd like to mention here:
1.) The fact that a CSM member posted asking if CCP could spend more than 2 minutes answering the questions next time is unnerving. This sort of response to a group who was appointed to speak for the players (by CCP) only disappoints me further. CCP has an odd view of how to handle PR and it's not very effective for the most part.
2.) A feature like WiS is a reasonable feature to keep hush-hush about. Upgrading forums is not. We are working on exciting new things but can't talk about them is something I would expect from a kid in middle school who hasn't started his project and needs something to tell the teacher. Upgrades to the forums are not something to be secretive about, they're forums and are not exclusive to EVE.
I couldn't agree more with the sentiment of the latest Podded podcast on this issue. This continued 'iron-curtain' CCP seems to have fashioned for itself is a joke. CCP, I think you guys do great work, and are keeping the game I love moving forward (patches not withstanding) but there is no reason to keep something like adding search to forums, or letting me stay logged in, a secret.
In summary; Forums
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Hawkwar
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Posted - 2009.07.03 23:23:00 -
[71]
I thought the CSM Q&A session was going to be informative...... nope..... just disappointing with so little they shouldn't of bothered. If this is what the CSM is worth to CCP they might as well not have it. I voted in the CSM elections thinking "what a cool thing, players get to go and find out whats going on and help with shaping the game" the result is disappointing and I wont waste my time on voting again as it was obviously not worth it. Not blaming the CSM at all as they rely on CCP to answer the questions. Back to playing the game.
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