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reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:18:00 - [1] Edited by: reads41 on 26/06/2009 19:23:04 I don't know the situation in CCP HQ but you should have a good reason for what happened to the previous MJ thread, if your comfortable with child molestation then say so, but when people express an opinion based on fact and not ****y emotion over a paedophiles demise you best have a good reason, this is dangerous ground your treading on, be neutral or gtfo. This is an awkward situation, you can embrace all opinions or none. Make up your mind.
Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:19:00 - [2] Originally by: reads41 This
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:31:00 - [3] Kill the topic stone dead or allow all opinions, its not like it's fermat's last equation, kill the topic altogether but dont show bias.
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:34:00 - [4] I heard the thread was to young and they just couldn't keep it up long enough to make it worthwhile. Then it died of a heart attack.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:36:00 - [5] I think they're cowards kill all MJ threads or settle for the fact opinion is divided, so what is the CCP view on it?
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:38:00 - [6] He was never convicted. Do you know how easy it is to get someone in trouble in the US for child molestation whether they did it or not? VERY EASY! Before I was a teenager I could have, if I was a horrible person, called the police, and lied and say my parents have been molesting me. I could put on a huge show. People would be so disgusted that they wouldn't want to hear what my parents have to say.
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:39:00 - [7] Most important fact? Innocent until proven guilty! wasn't found guilty therefore end of story.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:40:00 - [8] Originally by: Munchees He was never convicted. Do you know how easy it is to get someone in trouble in the US for child molestation whether they did it or not? VERY EASY! Before I was a teenager I could have, if I was a horrible person, called the police, and lied and say my parents have been molesting me. I could put on a huge show. People would be so disgusted that they wouldn't want to hear what my parents have to say. Spare me your bull****, I'm not talking about your wishful thinking I'm talking about plain facts than can be backed up by the Los Angeles county court and a change of the law that came about because of the 1993 Jackson case.
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:43:00 - [9] Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 19:43:00 Originally by: reads41 Spare me your bull****, I'm not talking about your wishful thinking I'm talking about plain facts than can be backed up by the Los Angeles county court and a change of the law that came about because of the 1993 Jackson case. The LA court found him not guilty . Can CCP close this topic and ban this idiot?
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Captain Megadeath Most important fact? Innocent until proven guilty! wasn't found guilty therefore end of story. Which case are you talking about the 1993 case or the 2003 case????? Check the facts they are there for all to see. Make sure you understand the results of the 1993 case and what the changes to law meant. Be happy celebrating MJ's music. and ignoring his sexual deviancy. I cant believe what CCP did to the previous thread.

reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Munchees Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 19:43:00 Originally by: reads41 Spare me your bull****, I'm not talking about your wishful thinking I'm talking about plain facts than can be backed up by the Los Angeles county court and a change of the law that came about because of the 1993 Jackson case. The LA court found him not guilty . Can CCP close this topic and ban this idiot? The first case never went to court, the 2003 court was a travesty, but he escaped the hang mans noose in 1993.
Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:47:00 - [12] yepper, gonna be the same thing that is gonna happen to this thread. How many accounts to you plan to have banned today anyways?
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:47:00 - [13] you don't pay millions and millions of dollars to the families of those children because you are innocent. Like OJ simpson, kobe bryant, r kelly. If you can pay your way out of anything in the land of the free.
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:51:00 - [14] Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 19:51:10 Originally by: reads41 The first case never went to court, the 2003 court was a travesty, but he escaped the hang mans noose in 1993. Yeah now that I actually did reading up on it...IT TURNS OUT THEY CLOSED THE FIRST CASE DUE TO LACK OF EVIDENCE! The 2003 case was a circus sideshow, and they didn't find him guilty then either. Yeah MJ was a crazy and probably the creepiest guy...but he didn't molest children. He was a child at heart because his childhood was ruined by his parents parading his talents around. He spent most of his adult life trying to relive his childhood.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Munchees Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 19:43:00 Originally by: reads41 Spare me your bull****, I'm not talking about your wishful thinking I'm talking about plain facts than can be backed up by the Los Angeles county court and a change of the law that came about because of the 1993 Jackson case. The LA court found him not guilty . Can CCP close this topic and ban this idiot? It will make you happy to know I've been banned in the previous thread, which has been decimated of fair opinion and discussion. You people keep enjoying MJ's contribution to music and ignoring his molestation of minors, I have faults as have all people but at least there simple and I can live with them.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 19:55:00 - [16] Originally by: Munchees Edited by: Munchees on 26/06/2009 19:51:10 Originally by: reads41 The first case never went to court, the 2003 court was a travesty, but he escaped the hang mans noose in 1993. Yeah now that I actually did reading up on it...IT TURNS OUT THEY CLOSED THE FIRST CASE DUE TO LACK OF EVIDENCE! The 2003 case was a circus sideshow, and they didn't find him guilty then either. Yeah MJ was a crazy and probably the creepiest guy...but he didn't molest children. He was a child at heart because his childhood was ruined by his parents parading his talents around. He spent most of his adult life trying to relive his childhood. You f**king idiot, the first case wasn't closed it was settled out of court for an undisclosed fee. The evidence was overwhelming but at the time if a civil case was settled out of court then a criminal wasn't going to happen. They changed the law after the Chandler case to make sure you couldnt buy a result. THIS FACT, CHECK IT FOR YOUR SELF.
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:03:00 - [17] Originally by: reads41 THIS FACT, CHECK IT FOR YOUR SELF. What facts? The fact that Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over"? The fact that when this so called abuse was supposed to have happened, instead of going to the authorities he engaged in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue in a financial settlement; the negotiations were initiated by Chandler. The fact that the official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. The fact Jackson began taking painkillers, Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of the allegations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson was addicted to the drugs? The fact the stress of the allegations also caused Jackson to stop eating, losing a significant amount of weight. The fact that with his health in decline, Jackson's friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances; they called on him to settle the allegations out of court, believing that he could not endure a lengthy trial? The fact After the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence? What? Those facts? Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine
Joshamee Gibbs Gallente Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:09:00 - [18] stop this fail/rage/whatever, there's a time and a place for this discussion, and this is neither.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:11:00 - [19] Edited by: reads41 on 26/06/2009 20:13:53 Originally by: Captain Megadeath Originally by: reads41 THIS FACT, CHECK IT FOR YOUR SELF. What facts? The fact that Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over"? The fact that when this so called abuse was supposed to have happened, instead of going to the authorities he engaged in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue in a financial settlement; the negotiations were initiated by Chandler. The fact that the official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. The fact Jackson began taking painkillers, Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of the allegations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson was addicted to the drugs? The fact the stress of the allegations also caused Jackson to stop eating, losing a significant amount of weight. The fact that with his health in decline, Jackson's friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances; they called on him to settle the allegations out of court, believing that he could not endure a lengthy trial? The fact After the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence? What? Those facts? The facts of the case are there for people to look at, your implications are simply that, the actual facts are there to be read. The crux of the matter is Jacksons suggestion for a sexual relationship and Chandler's description of his genitals, don't read the press look at the public records, that is the single most important factor. The timing of the statements also makes a difference, I have no doubt that the parents of Jordy Chandler are no better than jackson, but that doesn't forgive his actions. once again i'm telling you to look at the public records and the time line of events, not the sensationalist tabloid press and their goals.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:12:00 - [20] Edited by: reads41 on 26/06/2009 20:12:11

Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:21:00 - [21] Edited by: Bestofworst on 26/06/2009 20:25:48 Edit: Excuse the bad example. ---- My Music
Thorliaron Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:23:00 - [22] 10 million out of court settlement says your guilty!
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Bestofworst Do you hate Queen to because Freddy Mercury was gay? No I don't and why should I, it's not like he had a taste for children. if consenting adults of the same sex want to have a relationship then fair play, I do have an issue of grown men and women wanting to have sex with minors, nice try at derailing my argument.
Arvald Caldari The Lumberjacks	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:34:00 - [24] Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 20:33:54 Hi my name is Arvald, and this thread gets my official "op is a ****ing moron" seal. thank you for your time
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:56:00 - [25] Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 20:33:54 Hi my name is Arvald, and this thread gets my official "op is a ****ing moron" seal. thank you for your time Thank you for your input, are you also comfortable with the molestation of children? My point was a simple one, the previous MJ thread was cleared of all defamatory comments regarding him and his tastes. My point is simple can we express our opinions or do we hold to the popular thought. I am and never have been a herd animal.
Arvald Caldari The Lumberjacks	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:00:00 - [26] Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 20:33:54 Hi my name is Arvald, and this thread gets my official "op is a ****ing moron" seal. thank you for your time Thank you for your input, are you also comfortable with the molestation of children? My point was a simple one, the previous MJ thread was cleared of all defamatory comments regarding him and his tastes. My point is simple can we express our opinions or do we hold to the popular thought. I am and never have been a herd animal. no im not comfortable with it, neither am i comfortable with idiots like yourself discussing topics which obviously should not be discussed here
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:00:00 - [27] Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 20:33:54 Hi my name is Arvald, and this thread gets my official "op is a ****ing moron" seal. thank you for your time Thank you for your input, are you also comfortable with the molestation of children? My point was a simple one, the previous MJ thread was cleared of all defamatory comments regarding him and his tastes. My point is simple can we express our opinions or do we hold to the popular thought. I am and never have been a herd animal. If you had a family member that was in the same situation as MJ, and he died, would you care?
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:02:00 - [28] If by that you mean a child molester, then no not in the slightest, you seem to think a barb in the heart close to home will twist perspective.
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:03:00 - [29] Originally by: reads41 If by that you mean a child molester, then no not in the slightest, you seem to think a barb in the heart close to home will twist perspective. I give up on you.
Arvald Caldari The Lumberjacks	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:05:00 - [30] Originally by: reads41 If by that you mean a child molester, then no not in the slightest, you seem to think a barb in the heart close to home will twist perspective. ...im with the above poster on this, im calling troll at this point

reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:06:00 - [31] Originally by: Arvald Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 20:33:54 Hi my name is Arvald, and this thread gets my official "op is a ****ing moron" seal. thank you for your time Thank you for your input, are you also comfortable with the molestation of children? My point was a simple one, the previous MJ thread was cleared of all defamatory comments regarding him and his tastes. My point is simple can we express our opinions or do we hold to the popular thought. I am and never have been a herd animal. no im not comfortable with it, neither am i comfortable with idiots like yourself discussing topics which obviously should not be discussed here My problem is that it is being discussed here and the fact its wrong is lost to the PC (politically correct) factor. It doesn't take a genius to look at the facts and realise he's deviant.
Arvald Caldari The Lumberjacks	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:08:00 - [32] Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 21:07:58 Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Arvald Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Arvald Edited by: Arvald on 26/06/2009 20:33:54 Hi my name is Arvald, and this thread gets my official "op is a ****ing moron" seal. thank you for your time Thank you for your input, are you also comfortable with the molestation of children? My point was a simple one, the previous MJ thread was cleared of all defamatory comments regarding him and his tastes. My point is simple can we express our opinions or do we hold to the popular thought. I am and never have been a herd animal. no im not comfortable with it, neither am i comfortable with idiots like yourself discussing topics which obviously should not be discussed here My problem is that it is being discussed here and the fact its wrong is lost to the PC (politically correct) factor. It doesn't take a genius to look at the facts and realise he's deviant. the last thread was locked, so obviously the MODS dont think its appropriate to discuss on their boards ok but seriously, next person that derails my thread gets a railroad spike shoved through their neck
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:10:00 - [33] Originally by: Arvald Originally by: reads41 If by that you mean a child molester, then no not in the slightest, you seem to think a barb in the heart close to home will twist perspective. ...im with the above poster on this, im calling troll at this point I'm lost here, and I'm not trolling, we're talking about someone who molests children, I struggling to see your point?
Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:10:00 - [34] Actually it wasn't locked, it was just cleaned up of all the like minded trolls like the OP here. So he made a new thread to continue the flame war forcing people like me to report it every time I click the link. for someone who said he didn't care either way in the other thread he sure is making a big stink about it.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:12:00 - [35] If you look at the first thread and what's left of it it does show a certain amount of bias to the pro MJ crowd. Maybe this is for legal reasons but I don't buy it.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:13:00 - [36] Originally by: Luna Sistere Actually it wasn't locked, it was just cleaned up of all the like minded trolls like the OP here. So he made a new thread to continue the flame war forcing people like me to report it every time I click the link. for someone who said he didn't care either way in the other thread he sure is making a big stink about it. I dont care that adults **** kids.....?
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:18:00 - [37] Lets do this the easy way, lets ignore the evidence and testimony of the 1993 Jordy Chandler case, and have a show of hands for people who think that Michael Jacksons talent is ok when it comes to forgiving him for molesting minors. The vote starts now.
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:23:00 - [38] Lets do this the super easy way and ignore you.
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:24:00 - [39] Originally by: reads41 Lets do this the easy way, lets ignore the evidence and testimony of the 1993 Jordy Chandler case, and have a show of hands for people who think that Michael Jacksons talent is ok when it comes to forgiving him for molesting minors. The vote starts now. Your a sick man in a lot of pain. I do so hope that they get the person who hurt you.
Grez Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:24:00 - [40] Edited by: Grez on 26/06/2009 21:24:31 Originally by: reads41 Lets do this the easy way, lets ignore the evidence and testimony of the 1993 Jordy Chandler case, and have a show of hands for people who think that Michael Jacksons talent is ok when it comes to forgiving him for molesting minors. The vote starts now. If you had a child who had been molested, you wouldn't take $22 million and drop the case. You'd keep pushing until he was being ****ed in a prison. I'm sorry, but if you have a child, you wouldn't stop at anything but a sentence of some sort. All it sounds like was that a couple of families saw the chance to get rich, and did so.

Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:27:00 - [41] Originally by: reads41 Lets do this the easy way, lets ignore the evidence of Macaulay Culkin's testimony along with the 7 other children denying the claims of molestation and have a show of hands for people who have a one track mind that just want to rant about Michael Jackson. The vote starts now. Feeling kind a lonely today aren't ya.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:32:00 - [42] I've no children, but i can't believe what im reading here, a deviant molester has died, just be happy.
Dirty Sue	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:51:00 - [43] Originally by: reads41 I've no children, but i can't believe what im reading here, a deviant molester has died, just be happy. With the way you are going on about him I could swear it was you he molested.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:55:00 - [44] Originally by: Dirty Sue Originally by: reads41 I've no children, but i can't believe what im reading here, a deviant molester has died, just be happy. With the way you are going on about him I could swear it was you he molested. I dont get it, are you pro MJ or anti Mj or just trolling?
Luna Sistere Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:56:00 - [45] Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Dirty Sue Originally by: reads41 I've no children, but i can't believe what im reading here, a deviant molester has died, just be happy. With the way you are going on about him I could swear it was you he molested. I dont get it, are you pro MJ or anti Mj or just trolling? Well we already know you're #3
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:57:00 - [46] Originally by: reads41 I dont get it, are you pro MJ or anti Mj or just trolling? In context this is one of the funniest lines I've seen all day. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.06.26 22:27:00 - [47] Show me on the doll where he touched you. I mean, you're so adamant that he's a child molester, why would you possibly make such claims and disregard proven facts unless you had first hand experience on the matter!
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 22:28:00 - [48] So is CCP going to ban this guy and close the thread or what?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.26 22:30:00 - [49] Well if you believe in such things and are 100% convinced he was a real pedo and worked the law to get off the hook then you should be well chuffed at the mental image of him dancing in hell to the tune of a gang of underage sadistic deamons with all of eternity to work him over.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 22:58:00 - [50] Welcome to the world of "paedophilia is ok" I've said it quite a lot today, the Chandler case is public record, the change in law is public record, I guess im just a troll hater.

Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:10:00 - [51] Originally by: reads41 Welcome to the world of "paedophilia is ok" I've said it quite a lot today, the Chandler case is public record, the change in law is public record, I guess im just a troll hater. Someone called you out on that with proper facts, not speculation, earlier in the thread. But i see you have "ignoring relevant information" and "substituting reality with your own" at level 5, so our words mean nothing to you. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:12:00 - [52] They called me out with there pov, im not giving mine, im telling poeple to look at the facts as they are presented as public record, its the best i can do, sorry its not enough.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:15:00 - [53] For Reads41; Originally by: Captain Megadeath The fact that Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over"? The fact that when this so called abuse was supposed to have happened, instead of going to the authorities he engaged in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue in a financial settlement; the negotiations were initiated by Chandler. The fact that the official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. The fact Jackson began taking painkillers, Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of the allegations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson was addicted to the drugs? The fact the stress of the allegations also caused Jackson to stop eating, losing a significant amount of weight. The fact that with his health in decline, Jackson's friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances; they called on him to settle the allegations out of court, believing that he could not endure a lengthy trial? The fact After the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence? What? Those facts? This is NOT someones point of view, these are all facts. Please stop ignoring them or chalking them up as a "point of view" or i'll have to do the same against your argument. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:27:00 - [54] Originally by: Blane Xero For Reads41; Originally by: Captain Megadeath The fact that Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over"? The fact that when this so called abuse was supposed to have happened, instead of going to the authorities he engaged in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue in a financial settlement; the negotiations were initiated by Chandler. The fact that the official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. The fact Jackson began taking painkillers, Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of the allegations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson was addicted to the drugs? The fact the stress of the allegations also caused Jackson to stop eating, losing a significant amount of weight. The fact that with his health in decline, Jackson's friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances; they called on him to settle the allegations out of court, believing that he could not endure a lengthy trial? The fact After the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence? What? Those facts? This is NOT someones point of view, these are all facts. Please stop ignoring them or chalking them up as a "point of view" or i'll have to do the same against your argument. I'm not disputing that, I'm pointing out that it's just one part of the facts, look at the public records, your saying because of this piece of text he's innocent, I'm say Chandlers parents and legal team are as bad as Jackson, the fact remains the out of court settlement saved him from a trial where he would've been found guilty, becuase of this the law was changed, so that all "criminal" charges would be pursued before a civil action for damages could continue, and an out of court settlement wouldn't stop criminal action. It's all public record now, all you have to do is look at the files. Why does this one simple fact get ignored?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:28:00 - [55] Originally by: reads41 It's all public record now, all you have to do is look at the files. Why does this one simple fact get ignored? Care to drop a few links to these public files? I'm curious now.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:33:00 - [56] Originally by: reads41 They called me out with there pov, im not giving mine... And then.... Originally by: reads41 I'm not disputing that, I'm pointing out that it's just one part of the facts... Make up your mind before trying to change other peoples.
reads41	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:34:00 - [57] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: reads41 It's all public record now, all you have to do is look at the files. Why does this one simple fact get ignored? Care to drop a few links to these public files? I'm curious now. There's nothing to stop you going there and looking at the files in person, its been done also its in the public domain.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:36:00 - [58] Originally by: reads41 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: reads41 It's all public record now, all you have to do is look at the files. Why does this one simple fact get ignored? Care to drop a few links to these public files? I'm curious now. There's nothing to stop you going there and looking at the files in person, its been done also its in the public domain. So.. You are saying the you personaly went to the place the public files were stored and studied them? OK
Munchees	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:36:00 - [59] Originally by: reads41 There's nothing to stop you going there and looking at the files in person, its been done also its in the public domain. AKA the public files will show that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Karrade Krise	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:38:00 - [60] Due to the fact that Michael Jackson is 99% Plastic, he shall be melted down and turned into LEGOS. Now children can play with him.

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:41:00 - [61] Edited by: Zeba on 26/06/2009 23:41:46 Originally by: Karrade Krise Due to the fact that Michael Jackson is 99% Plastic, he shall be melted down and turned into LEGOS. But then wouldn't they be called PEDOS? Whoops.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.26 23:48:00 - [62] Oh noes! I'm out of Jebus juice!
Kakuremichi	Posted - 2009.06.27 00:20:00 - [63] OP is funny and fail in equal measure, to break it down: 1. You spew bile about MJ being a 'child molester' 2. Someone comes in with facts relating to the 1993 case (the one you say he should have been nailed in) and legal process 'innocent till proven guilty' 3. You graciously permit them their 'point of view', while at this point still failing to submit any facts of your own to counter theirs (hint: debates work like this, a) case presented, facts used to support case, b) case rejected, facts used to support rejection, c) case defended using facts, d) case attacked using facts, e) cycle c and d till verdict reached). 4. You fail around some more, flapping like a fish As you take the position of accuser, the onus is on you to provide evidence for your accusations, not for us to find it for you. Trolls have to be clever to be appreciable, this is just pathetic, poorly constructed, and generally boring. The level of failure as a result of these things is what makes this thread interesting and worth a reply.
Jin Nib	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:17:00 - [64] This thread is funny, but not as funny as Katt. Which I have to post again cause its too good to pass up.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:26:00 - [65] Originally by: Jin Nib This thread is funny, but not as funny as Katt. Which I have to post again cause its too good to pass up. /thread Seriously.
PJRiddick	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:35:00 - [66] If i may interject here: I believe that CCP pulled the thread becasue people kept flaming MJ. it is my opinion that CCP didnt want to get into any legal slander issues that might be occuring here in the forums that are on there servers. Its a legal issue here. Might i suggest that all coments be "self sensored" a bit jsut to satisfy CCP and there views. I agree that sensorship on this matter is not right in a public forum, and i myself have flamed MJ, but i have also given well wishes to the jackson family. Myself i have met janet, and she is a very sweet lady of very good upbringing and pride in heself, carries herself with dignaty and self assurance. Although it has been quite sometime ago. I use to work at SeaTac ariport in the security working the Xray machine when i had just got out of the service. CCP i do appologise for any rude comments that ahve come out of myself and i do wholeheartedly appologise to the jackson family for any hurt that my words have caused,.. Iwish them well in the future. -=+>xXx<+=- Fly safe
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:48:00 - [67] Originally by: PJRid**** I believe that CCP pulled the thread becasue people kept flaming MJ. They didn't pull the thread because as of this post its on page one right now. What they did do is clean it of all the non cya later mj poasts that were not in the spirit of Chribba's op. That this thread is still alive says alot if you stop and think for a bit.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:53:00 - [68] Originally by: PJRid**** it is my opinion that CCP didnt want to get into any legal slander issues that might be occuring here in the forums that are on there servers. Its a legal issue here. Might i suggest that all coments be "self sensored" a bit jsut to satisfy CCP and there views. As I said in the other thread: how I love internet lawyers. There isn't a legal issue, the case against CCP would last about five minutes in court before being thrown out. You might want to go do a little research on what is required for libel/slander, and how none of the forum posts meet those requirements. -----------
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.06.27 03:12:00 - [69] Moving this over from the be nice to mj chribba thread. Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem When Farah Fawcett arrived at the pearly gates Saint Peter told her she had one wish. Farah, being the good woman she was replied with, "I want all the children of the world to be safe."
Alleghani	Posted - 2009.06.27 11:17:00 - [70] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: PJRid**** it is my opinion that CCP didnt want to get into any legal slander issues that might be occuring here in the forums that are on there servers. Its a legal issue here. Might i suggest that all coments be "self sensored" a bit jsut to satisfy CCP and there views. As I said in the other thread: how I love internet lawyers. There isn't a legal issue, the case against CCP would last about five minutes in court before being thrown out. You might want to go do a little research on what is required for libel/slander, and how none of the forum posts meet those requirements. last I heard it was not possible to libel the dead (at least within UK maybe its different elsewhere)

Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.27 11:56:00 - [71] Originally by: reads41 I've no children, but i can't believe what im reading here, a deviant molester has died, just be happy. If you did, and I do, then you would know that no amount of money on the freaking planet would make you even come close to dropping the whole thing if someone had molested your child.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.27 12:58:00 - [72] did you ppl really believe that MJ was a pedo ?
Karrade Krise	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:39:00 - [73] Originally by: ceaon did you ppl really believe that MJ was a pedo ? He was the best entertainer in the world. I strongly believe his inner child LOVED playing with other children... I mean seriously...the dude turned into a weird freak. But I still love the music.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.27 13:43:00 - [74] Originally by: Karrade Krise I strongly believe his inner child LOVED playing with other children... i can add: because of Jackson 5 MJ never had a "children life"

CCP Zymurgist Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.27 16:32:00 - [75] Thread Locked. Reopening a locked thread by creating a new one is not allowed. Be warned that continuing to act in this matter you may end up with an official warning on your account. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us



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