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Ulric Denrai
Amarr Eternal Guardians Corp. Chaotic Evolution
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Posted - 2009.06.27 11:14:00 -
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Heads down make ships doomsday fitted :P
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Cpt Constantinus
Celestial Janissaries
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Posted - 2009.06.27 11:43:00 -
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Doomsday devices dont work in lowsec areas. :)
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.06.27 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 14:27:53 Wow - how the mighty have fallen.
Being the founding member of the most successfull alliance eve has ever seen . . . . . Getting screwed over by Goons . . . . Failing to take anything back from them . . . Joining the empires training grounds for noob pilots and carebears to have a peek at pvp . . Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest . Rock bottom
Those guys must be really desperate for a victory - but yeah - understandable they want to play it safe - with them joining, the combined RKK/Minmatar forces outnumber the allrady heavily outnumbered 2600 Amarr pvp beginners by a thousand - hope that is enough.
Good plan, really.
Well - at least they have the guts to drop their alliance and join for real - unlike SF that wardec 2-3 small noob corps at a time so they can't be shot by the main bulk of the Amarr.
I actually had lots of respect for BoB and its member corps, but now, if it wasn't for SF, I'd call RKK the lowest of the low New Eden hast to offer, but they're a close runner up...
Now hurry to grind your Minmatar standings |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.06.27 15:02:00 -
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maybe they joined minmatar to fight the caldari
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.27 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 14:27:53 Wow - how the mighty have fallen.
Being the founding member of the most successfull alliance eve has ever seen . . . . . Getting screwed over by Goons . . . . Failing to take anything back from them . . . Joining the empires training grounds for noob pilots and carebears to have a peek at pvp . . Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest . Rock bottom
Those guys must be really desperate for a victory - but yeah - understandable they want to play it safe - with them joining, the combined RKK/Minmatar forces outnumber the allrady heavily outnumbered 2600 Amarr pvp beginners by a thousand - hope that is enough.
Good plan, really.
Well - at least they have the guts to drop their alliance and join for real - unlike SF that wardec 2-3 small noob corps at a time so they can't be shot by the main bulk of the Amarr.
I actually had lots of respect for BoB and its member corps, but now, if it wasn't for SF, I'd call RKK the lowest of the low New Eden hast to offer, but they're a close runner up...
Now hurry to grind your Minmatar standings
You really are a worthless dog. As if anyone truly believes that faction warfare is for "beginners"
The average faction warfare veteran is streets ahead of the average 0.0 player in pilot skill, tactical knowledge and small gang smarts.
As for crying about the Star Fraction. War dec yourself or join a corp we've wardecced. Do something about it rather than whining and complaining behind an anonymous posting patsy.
Still nice to know we are making you hurt.
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.06.27 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 17:00:51
Originally by: Jade Constantine
You really are a worthless dog. As if anyone truly believes that faction warfare is for "beginners"
The average faction warfare veteran is streets ahead of the average 0.0 player in pilot skill, tactical knowledge and small gang smarts.
The average "veteran" - well - and how many veterans are there? A handfull...
And actually, it is for beginners - just because you fail at making any significant impact doesn't make them good - you failed in 0.0, you fail in trying to interfere with FW. It only shows one thing: The average SF pilot is worse than the average beginner.
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As for crying about the Star Fraction. War dec yourself or join a corp we've wardecced. Do something about it rather than whining and complaining behind an anonymous posting patsy.
Still nice to know we are making you hurt.
I was expressing my disdain for SF - and I'd never join any of the nublet corps you tend to wardec, nor do I give a rats arse about them. Your tactics are pretty obvious: you wardec a corp, then check if they're even worse than you at pvp and if they're not, you "rotate" the wardec.
How long did that Helljumpers wardec last again? A week? Didn't work out quite as good, did it, eh?
You're pathetic - like a fat little kid that tries to bully around even weaker fat little kids and as soon as one of them shows the ability to strike back, you run...
Much like what RKK is trying to do...
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Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan
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Posted - 2009.06.27 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse
Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest
Your stats are a little outdated. |
Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.27 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine The average faction warfare veteran is streets ahead of the average 0.0 player in pilot skill, tactical knowledge and small gang smarts.
Apples and avacados.
The priorities that drive 0.0 alliances is almost 180 off axis with the average lowsec bottomfeeder or faction warfare pilot.
That said, the mechanics at the roaming gang level aren't that different. Contrary to your rectally inserted point of view on us, we do a LOT more than blob capitals and spam towers.
When it comes to system control, faction warfare has replaced tower spam with glorified plex running. We do the same thing in our free time, for far less meta reasons than someone else's glory. |
Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.06.27 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 19:54:11
Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow
Originally by: Grim Asse
Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest
Your stats are a little outdated.
nope
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.27 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull
Originally by: Jade Constantine
When it comes to system control, faction warfare has replaced tower spam with glorified plex running. We do the same thing in our free time, for far less meta reasons than someone else's glory.
Not many in FW really care about plexes. So it hasn't really replaced anything to anyone, other than the PVE types. We don't have to do plexes because system sov doesn't mean anything. Ask the Caldari, al they got was a cheesy medal
The last few days, I've been using plexes to get fights in. It's a nice little game mechanic to limit the types of ships you will have to fight. That and it's a bit harder to get ganked when you are solo, because you can see the blob coming in local and on scan.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.06.27 20:03:00 -
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There are more practical reasons this is far fetched. The corporation's Minmatar Republic standing is something like 0.04. If I remember correctly isn't the requirement at least 0.5? May make joining the Republic, Federation, or even Empire difficult. So it may be a while until this can happen anyways.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.06.27 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow Your stats are a little outdated.
Numbers are pretty much dead on, a 20% difference in enrolled pilots with the Matari currently being second only to Caldari and Amarr taking up the rear.
Originally by: Janu Hull Apples and avacados.
The priorities that drive 0.0 alliances is almost 180 off axis with the average lowsec bottomfeeder or faction warfare pilot.
That said, the mechanics at the roaming gang level aren't that different. Contrary to your rectally inserted point of view on us, we do a LOT more than blob capitals and spam towers.
A sufficiently accurate description in a big picture fashion. The kicker in FW, the one that gets numerous 0.0 holiday goers killed, is the size restrictions and navy spawns on/in the complexes. The lowsec wars, much like 0.0 war, requires an acquired frame of mind. Wartargets are easy enough, but over half the pilots you meet are unaffiliated and can be legitmate travellers or they can pirates .. makes for a special "feel" to the whole thing.
As for RKK joining the insurgents. Not sure if they are aware of the mental anguish they will have to go through to grind 0.46 standings for a 400 man corporation ...
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.27 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 27/06/2009 21:13:36 A few other things to think about.
1) Stats wise Minmatar are the 2nd largest this is true. Amarr might be smaller in numbers but their fleets always out number Minmatar during the UK time zones. Add to this fact that many Caldri have been showing up with the Amarr lately.
2) If they joined Gallente, they could still fight Amarr or Caldari just as they can by joining the Minmatar. If they Joined Amarr that might make the 3 non Caldari factions about equal in size, but Caldri would still have 2k more than anyone.
In the end it doesn't matter which side they join, my guess is it's a standings issue and Minmatar is the easiest to get for them. Even though I'm in Minmatar, I don't really see the added bonus of a instant 500 new pilots as a good thing.
FW is already suffering from lag and blob issues and more will make it worse. My guess is they will get bored of the lag issues and likely do most of their playing out in null sec with SF and UK guys.
On the flip side, it will be interesting to see what they can do.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.27 21:20:00 -
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If some of the people in this thread did the tinyest bit of research it would make more sense.
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.06.27 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 27/06/2009 21:13:36 A few other things to think about.
1) Stats wise Minmatar are the 2nd largest this is true. Amarr might be smaller in numbers but their fleets always out number Minmatar during the UK time zones. Add to this fact that many Caldri have been showing up with the Amarr lately.
2) If they joined Gallente, they could still fight Amarr or Caldari just as they can by joining the Minmatar. If they Joined Amarr that might make the 3 non Caldari factions about equal in size, but Caldri would still have 2k more than anyone.
In the end it doesn't matter which side they join, my guess is it's a standings issue and Minmatar is the easiest to get for them. Even though I'm in Minmatar, I don't really see the added bonus of a instant 500 new pilots as a good thing.
FW is already suffering from lag and blob issues and more will make it worse. My guess is they will get bored of the lag issues and likely do most of their playing out in null sec with SF and UK guys.
On the flip side, it will be interesting to see what they can do.
No - actually they have the standings to join the Caldari instantaneously and have way better Amarr standings than Minmatar...
I's just that they want to play it safe, obviosuly - considering there's roughly 120-200 Amarr online at peak times with half of them afk, they *might* stand a chance against that disorganized rabble of pvp tryouts...
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.27 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse
No - actually they have the standings to join the Caldari instantaneously and have way better Amarr standings than Minmatar...
I's just that they want to play it safe, obviosuly - considering there's roughly 120-200 Amarr online at peak times with half of them afk, they *might* stand a chance against that disorganized rabble of pvp tryouts...
If you had done any research at all into the people you are talking about you would have found they are long standing friends of, amongst others, Ushra'Khan and as such the choice of which side to choose if they do decide to get involved it is pretty obvious which side of the conflict they would chose.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.27 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 27/06/2009 22:11:52
Originally by: Grim Asse
No - actually they have the standings to join the Caldari instantaneously and have way better Amarr standings than Minmatar...
I's just that they want to play it safe, obviosuly - considering there's roughly 120-200 Amarr online at peak times with half of them afk, they *might* stand a chance against that disorganized rabble of pvp tryouts...
Well Minmatar have 169 on at this moment and that's pretty close to peak for us as well. I dunno where the other 500 or so are that we have over you. Maybe it's just all those Amarr spies you guys have in our militia.
While we may show more on "paper" as they say, you guys routinely out number us in your fleets during the US day UK prime. I mean honestly you guys should be happy because maybe finally us Minmatar will fight back in that TZ and give your blobs something to shoot at.
If it's not a standings issue, it's likely the other point I made.. I believe they are friendly to UK or SF. Which likely helped lead them toward this side.
I don't think it matters anyway, because they will quickly find out that 30 man gangs are pretty much the limit and even then the lag can be really bad. Im' sure they aren't going to go around stealing all your plexes either. However maybe that's what we need to get a little love for FW is for them to join it.
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Marus Sulla
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.27 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor If some of the people in this thread did the tinyest bit of research it would make more sense.
^^ and here I was hoping we could get RKK into U'K .... Good luck lads and have a blast. |
Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan
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Posted - 2009.06.28 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 19:54:11
Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow
Originally by: Grim Asse
Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest
Your stats are a little outdated.
nope
Um, yep.
Now to be fair(and prove myself both right and wrong at the same time) by definition, all stats are outdated. They are a a snap-shot in time. Some stats hold true longer than others.
As of(by my count) 5 hours ago, according to your source, the Caldari are down 7 on their rosters, Minmatar are down 4, Gallente are up 5 and the Amarr...well the Amarr are up twenty-three. More than 3 times the amount Caldari lost, almost 6 times the amount Minmatar lost, and almost five times the amount the Gallente gained. That was five hours ago. It takes 24 hours before you can officially fight on the Militia's behalf. Numbers and stats can tell a story, but not by themselves.
I'm just saying...if the Amarrian Militia gained almost SIX times the amount of pilots the Minmatar lost, they won't be 'by far the smallest' militia for long now will they? Not fair to project? It seemed to be the tone of this thread. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.06.28 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow Um, yep.
Now to be fair(and prove myself both right and wrong at the same time) by definition, all stats are outdated. They are a a snap-shot in time. Some stats hold true longer than others. ....... I'm just saying...if the Amarrian Militia gained almost SIX times the amount of pilots the Minmatar lost, they won't be 'by far the smallest' militia for long now will they? Not fair to project? It seemed to be the tone of this thread.
Talk about snap-shots! The difference in pilots between Amarr and Minmatar have been pretty static for the entire war (after the new smell wore off militia life). There are daily/weekly fluctuations as individuals and corporations come and go, but the totals have always been 5-600 apart.
I wish Dianabolic and his companions well as they set about the task of gaining 0.46 faction standing for their 400 man corporation .. not an easy task, I shall expect them on the front in six months time or so. |
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coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.06.28 13:22:00 -
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irrelevant, beaten, insignificant, yet still you post.
win. ----
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.28 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: coeathal vega irrelevant, beaten, insignificant, yet still you post.
Welcome to the club ---
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Jaina Proudmoar
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Posted - 2009.06.28 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: coeathal vega irrelevant, beaten, insignificant, yet still you post.
Sounds like a good description of Reikoku. |
Svenjabi Xiang
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.06.28 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar
Originally by: coeathal vega irrelevant, beaten, insignificant, yet still you post.
Sounds like a good description of Reikoku.
Relevance, in space, is perhaps best left to those for whom space combat is more than an academic excercise.
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Moonshadoe
Caldari Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.06.29 12:55:00 -
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lol... much amusement here.
I was actually rooting for BoB to retake Querious and Delve... assumed it would take them a few months but oh well. I'm ex Slacker Industries and most of my older EVE buddies are too that fight for Amarr.
I do foresee that with corp the size (and age of pilots) of RKK joining there will be utter raping of my faction, the Amarr. :( For a while at least... then you won't see many blinkies around because we will be tired of being out blobbed 99% of the time. Again, not complaining, but it seems a bit inevitable with the number of pilots we are talking about.
Anyway, will be interesting O_o If nothing else and you get bored you can always kill the many blinky pirates around... that's what we do =P
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.29 13:12:00 -
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I wish RKK and the TLF every success in the cause.
I wish the 24th crusade a burning and painful end to their imperial ambition. |
Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.06.30 11:13:00 -
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Well most likely RKK will leave FW soon anyway.
You dont need to be rocket scientist to know why RKK is joining minnies. But they should do some research on their own before they make the decision.
1. They are too huge for FW lowsec area. The node will not handle their size of fleets. Immmidiately most of the parties will lag out and desync in most horrible way. This happens from 15vs15 and bigger. So they will not be able to do any corp fleets with cap support.
2. The lack of targets. They can field more people and more capitals then any other minnie corp. They would outnumber any amarr miltia fleet. So somehow i dont see that happening that miltia woul suicide fleets into them where most likely all would be killed + lag out and desynced.
They can solo the amarr corps with a good chance of success but still it will be too low ammount for their corp needs. They are pvp corp so they need to actively pvp or people get bored. Also if they find enough targets people in minmatar miltia will not get any. So its like a huge fish who eats all the small fishes around and swims in empty pool.
So somehow i dont see that happening that small pirates would fight them at all and if they engage a 30 member miltia fleet and destroy it the whole day they will be without targets. And in US zone completly without targets as amarr miltia has peeks in EU zone not US zone.
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.06.30 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Asse on 30/06/2009 16:11:20
Originally by: Nur AlHuda
2. The lack of targets. They can field more people and more capitals then any other minnie corp. They would outnumber any amarr miltia fleet. So somehow i dont see that happening that miltia woul suicide fleets into them where most likely all would be killed + lag out and desynced.
They can solo the amarr corps with a good chance of success but still it will be too low ammount for their corp needs. They are pvp corp so they need to actively pvp or people get bored. Also if they find enough targets people in minmatar miltia will not get any. So its like a huge fish who eats all the small fishes around and swims in empty pool.
This for the most part - in an area where minnies accuse you of blobbing if you're in a five man gang (actually happened), RKK is entirely misplaced and I guess lots of people will consider the idea of fighting against such overwhelming odds rather ridiculous and not bother to log on/stay in the area anyway - so what will most likely happen is RKK getting bored of taking fleets out to gank the occasional 3 month old plexer in his t1 frig every few days and turn on providence to find someone of their calibre to actually get some fights.
Why they go through the hassle of grinding standings for Minmatar up instead of just joining UK in order to achieve that escapes me though - probably so mins can take plexes 99% of pilots on both sides don't care about anyway.
*shrugs* has been good fun fighting you Mins, but I guess it's time to move on... o7
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.30 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse
This for the most part - in an area where minnies accuse you of blobbing if you're in a five man gang (actually happened), RKK is entirely misplaced and I guess lots of people will consider the idea of fighting against such overwhelming odds rather ridiculous and not bother to log on/stay in the area anyway - so what will most likely happen is RKK getting bored of taking fleets out to gank the occasional 3 month old plexer in his t1 frig every few days and turn on providence to find someone of their calibre to actually get some fights.
Why they go through the hassle of grinding standings for Minmatar up instead of just joining UK in order to achieve that escapes me though - probably so mins can take plexes 99% of pilots on both sides don't care about anyway.
*shrugs* has been good fun fighting you Mins, but I guess it's time to move on... o7
It doesn't matter if your gang is only 5. If you attack a solo pilot in a ship that doesn't require 5 to 1 odds then you are blobbing.
Example.. You attack a single frig or destroyer with 5 T2 frigs you are blobbing. If you attack a BS with 5 rifters you aren't blobbing.
It's not really just about the ship amount per say, but that added up with ship class that you flying vs what you are attacking. Typically I would say anything over 3 to 1 odds is blobbing.
However that's probably a whole different 10 page argument. Maybe Goons will give up delve and join the Amarr and it will be Goons vs Bobs 2.0. They can all fly rifters and punishers ftw.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.30 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse *shrugs* has been good fun fighting you Mins, but I guess it's time to move on... o7
For some strange reason I can't find your name associated with the Tribal Liberation Force public combat database. How strange! I guess we're supposed to take on faith that you are actually representing some mysterious 3rd party who is a hero of the minmatar resistence who nonetheless feels the need to hire an ugly Amarrian galnet personality to do his (or her) PR work?
Get out of here you pathetic waste of skin!
3rd Forces in FW - discuss! |
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.06.30 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Grim Asse *shrugs* has been good fun fighting you Mins, but I guess it's time to move on... o7
For some strange reason I can't find your name associated with the Tribal Liberation Force public combat database. How strange! I guess we're supposed to take on faith that you are actually representing some mysterious 3rd party who is a hero of the minmatar resistence who nonetheless feels the need to hire an ugly Amarrian galnet personality to do his (or her) PR work?
Get out of here you pathetic waste of skin!
You fail at text comprehension as much as you fail at combat - I said it was fun fighting the Minmatar, not fighting with them as I regarded some of them worthy adversaries (and still do) - something that only applies to very few members of your organization and only if they are not under your idiot command - and don't bother to find me in the 24th IC databases as well - this is just a disguise I use to deal with the ilks of yours to not get my hands dirty.
Now shut up.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.06.30 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda Well most likely RKK will leave FW soon anyway.
You dont need to be rocket scientist to know why RKK is joining minnies. But they should do some research on their own before they make the decision.
1. They are too huge for FW lowsec area. The node will not handle their size of fleets. Immmidiately most of the parties will lag out and desync in most horrible way. This happens from 15vs15 and bigger. So they will not be able to do any corp fleets with cap support.
2. The lack of targets. They can field more people and more capitals then any other minnie corp. They would outnumber any amarr miltia fleet. So somehow i dont see that happening that miltia woul suicide fleets into them where most likely all would be killed + lag out and desynced.
They can solo the amarr corps with a good chance of success but still it will be too low ammount for their corp needs. They are pvp corp so they need to actively pvp or people get bored. Also if they find enough targets people in minmatar miltia will not get any. So its like a huge fish who eats all the small fishes around and swims in empty pool.
So somehow i dont see that happening that small pirates would fight them at all and if they engage a 30 member miltia fleet and destroy it the whole day they will be without targets. And in US zone completly without targets as amarr miltia has peeks in EU zone not US zone.
Or, they not actually looking for fights and just plan on steam rolling every Amarr system and taking systems by the handful weekly till all of Amarr space is minnie. With that many people they can do it in no time.
Everyones worried about the fights, when in reality its the systems that are the objective.
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Thucydides Milesias
Amarr Fading Suns
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Posted - 2009.07.01 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Grim Asse *shrugs* has been good fun fighting you Mins, but I guess it's time to move on... o7
For some strange reason I can't find your name associated with the Tribal Liberation Force public combat database. How strange! I guess we're supposed to take on faith that you are actually representing some mysterious 3rd party who is a hero of the minmatar resistence who nonetheless feels the need to hire an ugly Amarrian galnet personality to do his (or her) PR work?
Get out of here you pathetic waste of skin!
You might want to ask one of your fellow space brothel courtesans to teach you the art of reading. The poster was clearly referring to fighting the Minmatar militia, not being part of it.
Originally by: Invelious Everyones worried about the fights, when in reality its the systems that are the objective.
Perhaps it's a test of their ability to take and hold space. Taking complexes is, if anything, somewhat less boring than shooting a starbase all day. If they find they can't muster enough forces to take complexes, that might be a sign that it's time for them to give up on trying to take and hold space.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.02 10:33:00 -
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Ousted feudal satraps from the outer regions will not save Shakor.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |
Sahaquiel Faust
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.07.02 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Ousted feudal satraps from the outer regions will not save Shakor.
One cannot help but get the feeling that you would still be saying that if ousted feudal satraps from the outer regions were beating down the doors of Dam'Torsad - after all, your viewpoint has often been divorced from reality to an almost clinical degree, why change that now? -----
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.02 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sahaquiel Faust
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Ousted feudal satraps from the outer regions will not save Shakor.
One cannot help but get the feeling that you would still be saying that if ousted feudal satraps from the outer regions were beating down the doors of Dam'Torsad - after all, your viewpoint has often been divorced from reality to an almost clinical degree, why change that now?
Do tell me what is this reality from which I am somehow divorced. I am very curious as to what your perception of reality is and why you think it is so authoritative.
Perhaps you should pay attention to your own home territory before making such comments though, you would not want to draw attention to the reality that the Caldari are indeed nearing the point of "beating down the doors" of Luminaire.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |
Plan Neun
Caldari KRAFTWERK
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Posted - 2009.07.02 23:22:00 -
[37]
Y?
Their panickbutton dont work in lowsec!
"I cut your head off and put it in my TV-Set"
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Xenon Barinade
Caldari Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2009.07.07 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 19:54:11
Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow
Originally by: Grim Asse
Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest
Your stats are a little outdated.
nope
Poor Gallente
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.07.07 21:46:00 -
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I hope that someone from RKK will make a short write-up of how they gained the necessary standings so fast.
Tremendous achievement in itself, had expected it to take at least twice as long.
Was it just speeding lvl3's and buying every tag you could get your hands on for the datacenters?
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Althus Treefingers
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.07.07 22:04:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Althus Treefingers on 07/07/2009 22:05:50
Quote: You fail at text comprehension as much as you fail at combat.
Quote: You might want to ask one of your fellow space brothel courtesans to teach you the art of reading.
You'll please note Ms. Constantine wrote "combat database" (not "roster"), which logs kills and losses and those pilots involved, and so was simply indicating that there is no trace of this Grim Asse character fighting (or even dying) for either side. Leave it to an Amarr to find a way to leave a fight they never joined.
And hey... this "reading" thing does work pretty well!
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.07.07 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Asse on 07/07/2009 23:29:54
Originally by: Althus Treefingers Edited by: Althus Treefingers on 07/07/2009 22:05:50
Quote: You fail at text comprehension as much as you fail at combat.
Quote: You might want to ask one of your fellow space brothel courtesans to teach you the art of reading.
You'll please note Ms. Constantine wrote "combat database" (not "roster"), which logs kills and losses and those pilots involved, and so was simply indicating that there is no trace of this Grim Asse character fighting (or even dying) for either side. Leave it to an Amarr to find a way to leave a fight they never joined.
And hey... this "reading" thing does work pretty well!
And if you had mastered the art of reading, that was exactly what I said - you never give your real name when dealing with cheap hookers ;)
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Althus Treefingers
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.07.08 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Althus Treefingers on 08/07/2009 00:20:58 Well... it's hardly a failure of comprehension when I didn't bother with the rest of your post. I admit, I probably should have, at least out of courtesy. But my criticism of your own misreading still stands (Jade never said you fought for the Minmatar), as does any comment that questions your first-hand experience of these matters. Don't bother claiming authority on a matter until you can back it up with a verifiable identity. For all you know I could be High King of the Jovians, but until I post as him you'd be a fool to believe it.
But this is all beside the point. The thread has obviously run its course.
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.07.08 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Althus Treefingers Edited by: Althus Treefingers on 08/07/2009 00:20:58 (Jade never said you fought for the Minmatar),
Originally by: Jade Constantine
...we're supposed to take on faith that you are actually representing some mysterious 3rd party who is a hero of the minmatar resistence...
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.08 18:02:00 -
[44]
Well you've already admitted you are a cowardly dog unwilling to reveal your true name so what else is there to say? Nobody can know whether you have been involved with 24th Crusade, TLF, or anybody really. Your words and opinions are worthless.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.09 00:25:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Jade Constantine ....... Your words and opinions are worthless.
Spot on Jadder, welcome yourself to how the majority of pod pilots view your statements.
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Cribb
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.09 00:57:00 -
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Go RKK, nice to see you finally come to your sences :) Next step is getting into U'K :) ------- When in doubt, play loud
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.09 12:20:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor If some of the people in this thread did the tinyest bit of research it would make more sense.
This is the most sensible thing in this thread.
Anyone looked at RKK pilots previous corps much? :)
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lucifers widow
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:52:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida I hope that someone from RKK will make a short write-up of how they gained the necessary standings so fast.
Tremendous achievement in itself, had expected it to take at least twice as long.
Was it just speeding lvl3's and buying every tag you could get your hands on for the datacenters?
Well in a previous alliance they were supposed to have friends in high places, perhaps they has a bit of help gaining standings ?
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.09 14:55:00 -
[49]
Originally by: lucifers widow
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida I hope that someone from RKK will make a short write-up of how they gained the necessary standings so fast.
Tremendous achievement in itself, had expected it to take at least twice as long.
Was it just speeding lvl3's and buying every tag you could get your hands on for the datacenters?
Well in a previous alliance they were supposed to have friends in high places, perhaps they has a bit of help gaining standings ?
I suspect that they were simply aware of the numberous methods of ingratiating themselves with the minmatar authorities and used the relevant cosmos missions + tag market to shift everyone's standings up in under 24hrs.
All that glimmers is not tin foil :)
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00tricky
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:31:00 -
[50]
Reikoku is joining the Minmatar Republic faction at war. Within 24 hours all enemies of the Minmatar Republic faction will be enemies of Reikoku and fighting may begin.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 15:03:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Cribb Go RKK, nice to see you finally come to your sences :) Next step is getting into U'K :)
They want to fight for the Republic, not AAA.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Cribb
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.13 16:42:00 -
[52]
:) Sneaky little zealot aren't you Rodj. But i have to give it to you, for picking up on my comment. I regret making it, so I removed it. Serves me right I need to think before i speak ------- When in doubt, play loud
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Buxaroo
Gallente Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:10:00 -
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Although I am Gallente by birth, I have strayed from my upbringing by training and piloting Amarrian ships for the last year. I will try to get reacquainted with my Gallente traditions, but I find that using the enemies own military hardware against them could be an effective tactic from time to time.
See you on the battlefield.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.15 14:25:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida I hope that someone from RKK will make a short write-up of how they gained the necessary standings so fast.
Tremendous achievement in itself, had expected it to take at least twice as long.
Was it just speeding lvl3's and buying every tag you could get your hands on for the datacenters?
We spent a week sorting out our standings, using a multitude of methods:
1 - we removed those which the Republic hated the most (on a temporary basis, as you know once you're in FW you gain faction standings pretty quick by capping points).
2 - we ran the tutorial chains of missions.
3 - we handed in some tags.
4 - we ran some cosmos.
5 - Our allies were kind enough to lend us some "Minmatar Heroes" to get us in to FW as quick as possible so we could run cap points to get standings quicker than any mission would ever allow.
As for why did we join the Minmatar side, that is three-fold:
1 - We have long time allies on the Minmatar side (Dark Rising CEO was a previous Director of RKK, for example, Jade Constantine was a founding part of Reikoku, u'k has always been a breeding ground for future RKK pilots).
2 - We learnt long ago that "paper numbers" don't mean ****, we asked around and discovered that average fleet sizes in the EU TZ (our primary TZ) were smaller on the minmatar side than any other.
3 - We believe that having standings to minmatar corporations is more beneficial to the corp than the other 3 factions.
Hope that explains how we did it, whilst also explaining a little bit about "why".
It is good to be loved:
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.07.16 07:44:00 -
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Well, I for one am absolutely delighted and wish Reikoku the very best of luck. Will be in touch with your diplomats soon.
-Eva-
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Arakidias
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 09:23:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dianabolic
1 - We have long time allies on the Minmatar side (Dark Rising CEO was a previous Director of RKK, for example, Jade Constantine was a founding part of Reikoku, u'k has always been a breeding ground for future RKK pilots).
Tsk tsk, haven't you heard that Jade is a freecaptain who holds allegiance to no empire or state?
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.07.16 09:39:00 -
[57]
Please refrain from posting OOC comment. Otherwise, this thread will be locked.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.16 14:32:00 -
[58]
<You're going to lock a thread for OOC comments, whilst making a post about OOC comments?
Groovy.>
<p.s. perhaps you might suggest, as I failed to do so in my post, that we put OOC comments within parenthese, as is accepted protocol in roleplaying circles, but hey what do I (or you) know?>
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.16 14:33:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Arakidias
Originally by: Dianabolic
1 - We have long time allies on the Minmatar side (Dark Rising CEO was a previous Director of RKK, for example, Jade Constantine was a founding part of Reikoku, u'k has always been a breeding ground for future RKK pilots).
Tsk tsk, haven't you heard that Jade is a freecaptain who holds allegiance to no empire or state?
Indeed, our allegiance however is born out of our creation, misguided or not it is one we will respect and given our history we're not afraid of those who hold no power to be higher than their own ;)
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.16 15:27:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 16/07/2009 15:27:58
Originally by: Arakidias
Originally by: Dianabolic
1 - We have long time allies on the Minmatar side (Dark Rising CEO was a previous Director of RKK, for example, Jade Constantine was a founding part of Reikoku, u'k has always been a breeding ground for future RKK pilots).
Tsk tsk, haven't you heard that Jade is a freecaptain who holds allegiance to no empire or state?
You need to read up on your history a little bit there Arakidias. Reikoku was founded during the dawntime wars in Venal when an association of newly independent trader-captains and ex-pirates turned NRDS revolutionaries were fighting against the Planned Economic Cryto-fascists of the Taggart Transdimensional and associated wolfhead mercenaries.
Reikoku back then were brand new capsule pilots wishing to get involved in the most important fight in the star cluster and approached me asking how they could help. I helped them acquire a couple of blueprints to support a kestrel-cruise-missile raiding force against Taggart mining assets and the rest (as they say) is history.
For me personally seeing Reikoku come home to the Matari cause against imperialist Amarrian dogs in the Bleaks and Devoids is the completion of a long journey of discovery for all sides. Throughout their time in Band of Brothers both in the Great Northern War and afterwards Reikoku remained good (though increasingly distant) friends of Jericho Fraction but it was well noted that they consistantly honoured the memory of our mutual history in Venal and this as much as any martial accomplishment and territorial sovereignty described the nature of their organization.
I have always respected those who honour their word and keep their deals and remember their friends.
And something tells me that Ki'li, DBPreacher and Galavet will be smiling somewhere to see their creation and joy return to its roots and strike just blows against the rotting edifice of Amarrian imperialism and all the disgusting creatures that lurk under its shadow.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.16 15:45:00 -
[61]
Jadder, thats some history there. In the future. Will you preach of your failures agaisnt the 24IC?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:25:00 -
[62]
That was an accurate history, so I don't get your comment?
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:29:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
That was an accurate history, so I don't get your comment?
You used big lego blocks when you were kid right? I didnt say it was inaccurate, I simply asked if in the future when she provides a history lesson if she will include the failure of stoping the 24th Imperial crusade.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:49:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2009 16:49:25
Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
That was an accurate history, so I don't get your comment?
You used big lego blocks when you were kid right? I didnt say it was inaccurate, I simply asked if in the future when she provides a history lesson if she will include the failure of stoping the 24th Imperial crusade.
lego blocks? some Amarrian game perhaps? I had nothing so fancy.
May I ask what failure in stopping the 24th Imperial Crusade you refer to and how it pertains to RKK's ominous joining of the Tribal Militia?
Was Jade suppose to stop the 24th Crusade from doing something in particular or just required to cause the complete collapse of the Amarrian government (not possible)?
àMaking note of course that the Amarrian empire is the most power and dangerous Empire in the cluster (yeah thats right, I put my money on Amarr over the Jovians!).
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious Jadder, thats some history there. In the future. Will you preach of your failures agaisnt the 24IC?
From where I sit we're doing pretty well at the moment. We've purged Kamela of the 24th Crusade - driven you like whipped dogs to stage in hisec. We've rained death and destruction on your command and control corps, we've forced your capitals off the field and generally played havoc with your planning and deployment. Wardecced your best and brightest and made them flee and six months into the campaign we're still growing in confidence and capability.
You can't talk your way out of this reality Invelious. At some point you will need to fight.
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Arakidias
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 17:55:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Jade Constantine *snip*
No, no, Jade.. what I was pointing out was that Star Fraction surely isn't working for the Minmatar Republic. Or is it?
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Garst Tyrell
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.16 18:32:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Jade Constantine *ignores the rest of the ludicrous claims*
You can't talk your way out of this reality Invelious. At some point you will need to fight.
Drop the "anarchist neutrality" farce already and just join the Republic militia. Youre. Not. Fooling. Anyone.
In the mean time ill glady take sec hits to blow up your faction fit pilgrims (READ: Toys). Im averaging one a day this week, when you come get me make sure to titan bridge a fleet onto the undock tube of the station of whatever system I'm in at the time. Gates are just so inconvenient, you might run into a fight on those. "I long for death, not because I seek peace, but because I seek the war eternal" |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.16 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Garst Tyrell Drop the "anarchist neutrality" farce already and just join the Republic militia. Youre. Not. Fooling. Anyone.
You should learn to read Garst. We made it quite clear to all involved that we are favouring the Tribal Liberation Force over the Amarrian imperialists in this warzone. We have decided that of all the governments in the Star Cluster the Republic under positive influence by the Thukker tribe is most likely to spawn the conditions neccessary for the anarchist Disapora we seek.
Quote: ... when you come get me make sure to titan bridge a fleet onto the undock tube of the station of whatever system I'm in at the time. Gates are just so inconvenient, you might run into a fight on those.
You sound a little bit bitter there? Perhaps running off from gate fights and leaving your comrades to die doesn't win friends and influence people as much as the holy texts tell you?
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.16 20:27:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious Jadder, thats some history there. In the future. Will you preach of your failures agaisnt the 24IC?
From where I sit we're doing pretty well at the moment. We've purged Kamela of the 24th Crusade - driven you like whipped dogs to stage in hisec. We've rained death and destruction on your command and control corps, we've forced your capitals off the field and generally played havoc with your planning and deployment. Wardecced your best and brightest and made them flee and six months into the campaign we're still growing in confidence and capability.
You can't talk your way out of this reality Invelious. At some point you will need to fight.
The reality is your still sleeping and need to wake up. We still base out of Kamela, our best corps are still in our militia and if you think sitting your butts in the 24IC station in Kamela is achieving anything then you really need to learn how to wage war because your terrible at it.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2009 20:49:09
Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious Jadder, thats some history there. In the future. Will you preach of your failures agaisnt the 24IC?
From where I sit we're doing pretty well at the moment. We've purged Kamela of the 24th Crusade - driven you like whipped dogs to stage in hisec. We've rained death and destruction on your command and control corps, we've forced your capitals off the field and generally played havoc with your planning and deployment. Wardecced your best and brightest and made them flee and six months into the campaign we're still growing in confidence and capability.
You can't talk your way out of this reality Invelious. At some point you will need to fight.
The reality is your still sleeping and need to wake up. We still base out of Kamela, our best corps are still in our militia and if you think sitting your butts in the 24IC station in Kamela is achieving anything then you really need to learn how to wage war because your terrible at it.
I respect your strong opinion Invelious but the above quoted contention is absolutely untenable. I get that it was a smack-strike with the intention to present a negative opinion of the enemy, but it turned me off from listening with so much hyperbole.
Specific instances of being camped in Kamela as well what which corps are still based there should be supplied, then a rebuttal could be formulated (as at this point JF are not being station camped in Kamela). Though arguments about who is dominate in Kamela should be made with the caveat that RKKÆs reputation and the presence of the Tribal Liberation fleets may be a large part of the cause.
In my personal experience the 24th does not hold any sway on either the locals of 24th or can exert effective force against its enemies there. Do you contest that this is true? Could I be wrong? Supply some thing coherent to the dialogue. I know I am willing to listen.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.16 21:45:00 -
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In my personal experience the 24th does not hold any sway on either the locals of 24th or can exert effective force against its enemies there. Do you contest that this is true? Could I be wrong? Supply some thing coherent to the dialogue. I know I am willing to listen.
This war has nothing to do with holding sway over locals or the pressence of ships wintin a single system, this is a fight of perpetual motion, always moving and hitting the next war target or plex, no matter how many bodies SF or the enemy puts into a given system it means nothing, because while they are there or here, we are someplace else causing damage.
Seeing as how determining the actual control of the system doesnt reside on POS or Station control we can easily slip in, take what we need (plex) and leave, then come back if we need too (contested systems). So SF boasting about pushing us out of kamela is arbitrary, because once we took back kamela and Kourm we no longer needed to operate out of there, and thus moved else where. So SF, can keep taking credit for "pushing" us out when in theory we had already left long before they showed up after leaving Arzad.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2009 22:21:22
well stated.
I would counter that over all the conflict has been going towards Star Fraction success when measured against the standard metrics (not systems held but success in battle). But as you said so eloquently, this is a fight of perpetual motion. Of course if one thing can be said for the Star Fraction it is that they are masters of guerilla war.
Also IÆd like to add a point of caution about using what ever metrics you do use to conclude success or failure. Star FractionÆs goals are not even in the same category as traditional forces. It is apples and archo-capital oranges. Apply your own ideas of success and failure at your own risk.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.16 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 16/07/2009 22:26:37
Originally by: Invelious This war has nothing to do with holding sway over locals or the pressence of ships wintin a single system, this is a fight of perpetual motion, always moving and hitting the next war target or plex, no matter how many bodies SF or the enemy puts into a given system it means nothing, because while they are there or here, we are someplace else causing damage.
You are good at running away this is true. But everyone needs to fight sometimes and every time you choose to run and leave your comrades to be slain by us the Amarrian Esprit de corps is damaged. Perhaps you cannot see this damage. Perhaps nobody mentions it to you? But we see it - day by day, steadily eroding your confidence and ability to field fleets. By all means spread yourselves thin with complex domination and become more practised yet in flight and evasion from the mere presence of Star Fraction vessels in local. Clearly these tactics bring pleasure to us both.
Quote: Seeing as how determining the actual control of the system doesnt reside on POS or Station control we can easily slip in, take what we need (plex) and leave, then come back if we need too (contested systems). So SF boasting about pushing us out of kamela is arbitrary, because once we took back kamela ...
Kamela is your home system. It used to be your staging post and members of your militia boasted that you'd never lose a fleet battle in that system. Doubtless things have changed. Still it has been a great morale boost for us to see the once proud crusader corps unrenting their Kamela offices one by one and choosing to base in highsec instead.
Quote: ... and Kourm we no longer needed to operate out of there, and thus moved else where. So SF, can keep taking credit for "pushing" us out when in theory we had already left long before they showed up after leaving Arzad.
Surely one of new eden's greatest sustained coincidences that wherever Star Fraction thinks to apply pressure is a place where the 24th Crusade "no longer needs to be." Many evenings we've seen 24th Crusaders proudly annoucing in local that since SF were controlling space outside there was no need for them to undock!
Mysterious are the ways of war in the Amarrian Empire. But clearly this is one conflict where both sides are extremely happy about the current status
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.16 23:28:00 -
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*reads four lines of Jaders recorded comments and pauses the feed*
Why did I just read that. I should have known it it pointless to try to establish anything logical with you.
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Vaarun
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Vaarun on 17/07/2009 21:04:51
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious Jadder, thats some history there. In the future. Will you preach of your failures agaisnt the 24IC?
From where I sit we're doing pretty well at the moment. We've purged Kamela of the 24th Crusade - driven you like whipped dogs to stage in hisec. We've rained death and destruction on your command and control corps, we've forced your capitals off the field and generally played havoc with your planning and deployment. Wardecced your best and brightest and made them flee and six months into the campaign we're still growing in confidence and capability.
...and all the while, Siseide still fell. While you may crow over battles won here and there, your "assistance" on behalf of the Minmatar has still cost them a system. By all means, crown yourself with laurels until there are no trees left for winning battles...or at least joining them after most of the fighting has subsided. You'll excuse me if I weigh success by winning a war.
As far as I am concerned, our best and brightest are still here. Tenacity is a trait I value greatly. Who are you referring to?
Why you may see your station camp as driving us into highsec it is no different than changing a comms signal that is saturated with static...annoying, constant static. But the static is only on one channel, so it is easily avoided.
Your impact on our tactical efforts: minimal.
So camp your station, parade your Titan in lowsec, and continue to come fashionably late to significant battles. We will continue to conquer Minmatar lowsec unabated by your efforts...
"To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees."
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Secretary Phase
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vaarun
So camp your station, parade your Titan in lowsec, and continue to come fashionably late to significant battles.
To do them some justice, Claire occasionally manages to pretend participating when she scouts for the Minmatar according to SF combat records.
Honour to whom honour is due.
Best regards
Secretary Phase
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:38:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Honour to whom honour is due.
words to live by
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Secretary Phase
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:43:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Honour to whom honour is due.
words to live by
Coming from someone who has obviosuly taken sarcasm invulnerabilty courses to the fifth grade, that's a real compliment.
Best regards
Secretary phase
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:16:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Honour to whom honour is due.
words to live by
Coming from someone who has obviosuly taken sarcasm invulnerabilty courses to the fifth grade, that's a real compliment.
Best regards
Secretary phase
"Honour to whom honour is due."
that is the key to being honorable; to being of moral caliber; to being professional in the way one comports oneself.
they are words to live by.
you'll note the difference between pilots who understand this and those who are too immature to comprehend respect for a valiant enemy by those who say "gf" after blood and pod juice has been blasted across the system.
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Vaarun
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Vaarun
So camp your station, parade your Titan in lowsec, and continue to come fashionably late to significant battles.
To do them some justice, Claire occasionally manages to pretend participating when she scouts for the Minmatar according to SF combat records.
Honour to whom honour is due.
Best regards
Secretary Phase
Of course there are exceptions to every broad brush I may use to paint my enemies with. I am sure that even within the SF roster there are individual pilots who actually do what Jade seems to think the entire alliance does, but it was not my intention to single-out pilots, just to counter Jade's broad claims with my own broad truths. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees."
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Invelious on 17/07/2009 22:37:01 Edited by: Invelious on 17/07/2009 22:36:02
Originally by: Vaarun
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Vaarun
So camp your station, parade your Titan in lowsec, and continue to come fashionably late to significant battles.
To do them some justice, Claire occasionally manages to pretend participating when she scouts for the Minmatar according to SF combat records.
Honour to whom honour is due.
Best regards
Secretary Phase
Of course there are exceptions to every broad brush I may use to paint my enemies with. I am sure that even within the SF roster there are individual pilots who actually do what Jade seems to think the entire alliance does, but it was not my intention to single-out pilots, just to counter Jade's broad claims with my own broad truths.
A brush is too fine my brother for the likes of Jader, she doesnt understand the finesse and skill of a proper painting. I would recommend a bat or a steal bar and just simply beat the information into her, blunt and to the point is really the best way to go. She seem to understand that better.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.17 23:02:00 -
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Its always evident when the 24th Crusade has a bad evening in space - the volume of their IGS boasting goes up a notch.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.07.18 00:56:00 -
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It irks me to say this, but Invelious does have a point. The war is fought and won on the basis of system capture. If the Amarr militia and militia corporations can capture systems better through evasion, then what matters if they lose every confrontation with the honorable SF?
Unfortunately, or fortunately, SF can not actively pursue the war of system capture as they are unaffiliated with the Republic. I suspect they would win such a war if they chose to fight it. However as they are not, they set the standard of victory by the more recognizable one of who wins the majority of engagements.
I find it interesting that this, at the root, is the same argument held by the Caldari/Gallente. That argument is the question on how to judge the progress of war. Is it by system capture or by combat. I believe it is by both. However, as an entity free of nationalist ties, SF can only fight half the war. I would contend they are entirely happy with this. ------------------------------------------------- Search: Sky Grunthor |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.18 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor It irks me to say this, but Invelious does have a point. The war is fought and won on the basis of system capture. If the Amarr militia and militia corporations can capture systems better through evasion, then what matters if they lose every confrontation with the honorable SF?
Unfortunately, or fortunately, SF can not actively pursue the war of system capture as they are unaffiliated with the Republic. I suspect they would win such a war if they chose to fight it. However as they are not, they set the standard of victory by the more recognizable one of who wins the majority of engagements.
I find it interesting that this, at the root, is the same argument held by the Caldari/Gallente. That argument is the question on how to judge the progress of war. Is it by system capture or by combat. I believe it is by both. However, as an entity free of nationalist ties, SF can only fight half the war. I would contend they are entirely happy with this.
In essence you are entirely correct. All we can do is suppress Amarrian fleets, destabalize their patrols - chase their commanders and generally cause consternation in their ranks. It falls to the Tribal Liberation Force to actually capture and defend the relevant plexes. I think our allies in the TLF will be glad to admit that we have helped them quite a lot in the warzone but nobody will say or claim that we are fighting the war on our own. Its an allied effort. We're content with the way our allies are raising their standards and confronting the 24th Crusade all the harder now - and I think our help will continue to be valuable when we are in a position to give it.
By the by we did say at the beginning of our campaign involvement that we held system status as an important measure of our success or failure in the campaign as a whole. We realize this means that some of our success is dependent on the achievements of others in actions we can only influence not control - but such are the vagaries of war sometimes.
Still we fight the way we can fight and we'll keep fighting to support our allies. At the last thats all anyone can or should expect.
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Atraxerxes
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.07.18 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor
That argument is the question on how to judge the progress of war. Is it by system capture or by combat? I believe it is by both.
I have to say, I believe it to be both as well, but pilots need to make the distinction between winning battles and winning the war.
If you can't hold the field 23/7, or at least deter your enemy from operating there 23/7, than you have not really won anything.
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Anneka Tong
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2009.07.18 08:44:00 -
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what is this page all about?
I want to hear about Reikoku's adventures, not yet another Star Fraction argument, for there are enough of those already.
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Grimster
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.07.20 12:49:00 -
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It has long been my wish to fight on the side of my brothers and sisters in the Republic and now we have been given the opportunity I personally will be grasping it with both hands.
Respect to all our allies in this worthy struggle, to the rest, see you in space.
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lucifers widow
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
In essence you are entirely correct. All we can do is suppress Amarrian fleets, destabalize their patrols - chase their commanders and generally cause consternation in their ranks.
Rubbish, you could do so much more if you in fact cared for you're so called "allies".
You could in fact front up and join them to fight a war with pride and honour instead of chestbeating on Kam station, occasionaly heading to either Lamaa or Kourm gates before returning to the safety of the station undock.
The truth is you pick off an odd target within the Amarr militia fleet as you only pick out a couple of loyalist corps to war dec at a time instead of joining the Matar and actually having a chance at effecting the war. The simple fact is yes the rallying point is no longer in Kamela, big deal it's either next door to Kam where it still flies through the system without interuption or in most cases forms a lot closer to the front and the battles that matter.
So come on out on the side of the Min militia instead of turning every thread into an attention seeking exercise in self promotion and ego boosting and actually effect the war instead of picking out the odd target here and there, cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim, you are busy hiding under kam station and spewing a load of crap on the forums.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: lucifers widow So come on out on the side of the Min militia instead of turning every thread into an attention seeking exercise in self promotion and ego boosting and actually effect the war instead of picking out the odd target here and there, cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim, you are busy hiding under kam station and spewing a load of crap on the forums.
Be silent you cowardly dog. Nobody is interested in ranting from a person too cowardly to post on IGS with their combat pilot.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow So come on out on the side of the Min militia instead of turning every thread into an attention seeking exercise in self promotion and ego boosting and actually effect the war instead of picking out the odd target here and there, cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim, you are busy hiding under kam station and spewing a load of crap on the forums.
Be silent you cowardly dog. Nobody is interested in ranting from a person too cowardly to post on IGS with their combat pilot.
Jadder that seems to be your response everytime someone calls you out on not doing squat all for your allies
"Be silent you cowardly dog" followed by how weak they are or because they are speaking without displaying the corp they belong too. Does it hurt you when your wrong and you dont have a valid response?
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lucifers widow
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Be silent you cowardly dog. Nobody is interested in ranting from a person too cowardly to post on IGS with their combat pilot.
No one is interested either in the rantings from someone too cowardly to stop using the Min militia pilots as a meatshield and join the war.
Perhaps it is time for you to stop posting on matters regarding the war and stick to you're own self important ego boosting threads on how you keeping the Kam station undock clear of Amarrian pilots.
Also perhaps it is time for you to look up the term Ranting and see what it means as my post was far from any meaning i have seen.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious that seems to be your response everytime someone calls you out on not doing squat all for your allies ... "Be silent you cowardly dog" followed by how weak they are or because they are speaking without displaying the corp they belong too. Does it hurt you when your wrong and you dont have a valid response?
Its the appropriate response always to gutless cowards who don't have the courage of their convictions. By definition I cannot be wrong in the words of nithling dog without backbone. Nothing this waste-of-skin says can have any meaning to warriors bold enough to speak their mind under their own identity.
There is a reason this creature is hiding and it isn't a good one.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow So come on out on the side of the Min militia instead of turning every thread into an attention seeking exercise in self promotion and ego boosting and actually effect the war instead of picking out the odd target here and there, cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim, you are busy hiding under kam station and spewing a load of crap on the forums.
Be silent you cowardly dog. Nobody is interested in ranting from a person too cowardly to post on IGS with their combat pilot.
Jadder that seems to be your response every time someone calls you out on not doing squat all for your allies
"Be silent you cowardly dog" followed by how weak they are or because they are speaking without displaying the corp they belong too. Does it hurt you when your wrong and you dont have a valid response?
I think the point though is that often one pilot will pretend to be a different pilot to preach the same response under the supposition that somehow it makes their view more legitimate if random unidentified and unknown personas parrot back the same rejoinder.
Jade merely gives an appropriate response in these instances. Why waste time counting claims made with no effort at proof nor done in good faith by a persona that can be made to answer for their actions?
Besides I know I havenÆt been ôbusy hiding under kam station and spewing a loadö. Indeed the only action IÆve seen on the Kamela station was an RKK jag chewing up a solo enemy. Most of the fighting isnÆt actually in Kamela, at least in my time zone. I canÆt speak for when I am disconnected from my pod.
Which honestly would be actually when my ôspewing a loadö would be most likely to occurànot while ôbusy hiding under kam stationö
as to the comment: "cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim"
I would like to hear some viable reasoning behind that. Also views on RKK and their help ôon the side of the Min militiaö
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Farelle
Gallente Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.20 18:44:00 -
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Kamela based pilot reporting in. Wait, star fraction undock? When did that happen?
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.07.20 19:19:00 -
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Back on topic ladies and gentlemen!!
So RKK. Now that you have tried playing in our sand-box for a week or so, what is your impression?
Enjoying not having to sit in POS bubbles and BS all day? Do you like the faster (and cheaper) action? What failings in FW have you encountered (fresh eyes are always welcome)?
As much as FW is supposed to be a stepping stone to null-sec there is nothing to prevent us (and CCP) from making it work the other way around as well .. a chill-out room for the battle weary.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.20 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Invelious on 20/07/2009 20:03:48
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious that seems to be your response everytime someone calls you out on not doing squat all for your allies ... "Be silent you cowardly dog" followed by how weak they are or because they are speaking without displaying the corp they belong too. Does it hurt you when your wrong and you dont have a valid response?
Its the appropriate response always to gutless cowards who don't have the courage of their convictions. By definition I cannot be wrong in the words of nithling dog without backbone. Nothing this waste-of-skin says can have any meaning to warriors bold enough to speak their mind under their own identity.
There is a reason this creature is hiding and it isn't a good one.
This coming from the organisation that doesnt have the nuts needed to war dec the entire militia or at least join the minmatar and actually assist them. You speak of convictions and yet you show nothing in the regards of conviction other than your empty ramblings and false proclamations of success in Kamela, you have been holding on to this "triumph" in Kamela for months now, your a joke Jadder, you and Star Craption.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious This coming from the organisation that doesnt have the nuts needed to war dec the entire militia
The 24th Crusade is protected by concord legislation.
Quote: [ or at least join the minmatar and actually assist them.
Our allies in TLF are extremely happy with the aid we have provided. Why should we care what a dog like you thinks?
Quote: You speak of convictions and yet you show nothing in the regards of conviction other than your empty ramblings and false proclamations of success in Kamela
And your defeat in Kamela is still bitter in your mouth since you can't stop talking about it.
All you are capable of doing is ranting on the IGS - Invelious. We are destroying your allies. It must hurt.
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lucifers widow
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Posted - 2009.07.20 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Our allies in TLF are extremely happy with the aid we have provided. Why should we care what a dog like you thinks?
Indeed am indeed sorry for posting inbetween all the TLF support you are getting here.
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Havohej
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.07.20 20:58:00 -
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For our part, Du'uma Fiisi has three blues. The Star Fraction is one of them. Which is to say, we have nothing but appreciation for -SF-'s contribution to the Minmatar war effort, from their logistical support in supplying the Market in the Kamela DMZ (eat it, Marys) to their more direct logistical support in the form of their remote-rep fitted pilots accompanying militia fleets and gangs - despite not showing up on killmails for their efforts, you'd best believe we in the TLF and its associates know how dangerous and stressful it can be to fly about in a warzone with a strict NRDS RoE to follow. But nevertheless, their pilots go out of their way to find ways to lend a hand.
No amount of begging and kissing up to GoonSwarm on CAOD (they're not coming to save you) or spouting cheap rhetoric at the Free Captains of Star Fraction in an attempt to weaken their alliance's morale and dedication to the fight against the Amarr Empire is going to help you.
"You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.20 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious This coming from the organisation that doesnt have the nuts needed to war dec the entire militia
The 24th Crusade is protected by concord legislation.
Quote: [ or at least join the minmatar and actually assist them.
Our allies in TLF are extremely happy with the aid we have provided. Why should we care what a dog like you thinks?
Quote: You speak of convictions and yet you show nothing in the regards of conviction other than your empty ramblings and false proclamations of success in Kamela
And your defeat in Kamela is still bitter in your mouth since you can't stop talking about it.
All you are capable of doing is ranting on the IGS - Invelious. We are destroying your allies. It must hurt.
I love you so much Jader.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 20/07/2009 21:32:50 Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 20/07/2009 21:31:45 @Invelious
The only way to show conviction is to join the militias?
CVA hasnÆt broken their alliance up and join the 24th yet who among us can doubt their stalwart conviction to the Empire?
By your logic though CVA would be the same as Star Fraction, they wouldnÆt have ônutsö and you and I both know that is complete poppy****.
I have a question for you.
Do you think that if RKK had not joined the Tribals they could have still had an impact on the war?
I seem to recall they were actually fighting with the Tribals before joining officially.
My suspicion (and feel free to prove me wrong) is that you donÆt actually mean that a group canÆt be effective against a militia unless they join, but that you are just striking out with every possible insult rather than biting into the meat of the issue.
Besides a Militia pilot canÆt go through Amarr very effectively, or Youl or Mista or any of the Amarr systems. A pilot at war with groups like Absinthe or PIE yet not in the militia can. Maybe one could argue which tactic has the ômostö effect but I donÆt see how that has no effect.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: lucifers widow Indeed am indeed sorry for posting inbetween all the TLF support you are getting here.
Why would our allies need to support us in an IGS battle exactly? We don't need anyone's help to pour scorn on those too cowardly to post with their own identities.
You are a pathetic worm. Go back under your stone and pray that nobody finds out where you live.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.20 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 20/07/2009 21:32:50 Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 20/07/2009 21:31:45 @Invelious
The only way to show conviction is to join the militias?
CVA hasnÆt broken their alliance up and join the 24th yet who among us can doubt their stalwart conviction to the Empire?
By your logic though CVA would be the same as Star Fraction, they wouldnÆt have ônutsö and you and I both know that is complete poppy****.
I have a question for you.
Do you think that if RKK had not joined the Tribals they could have still had an impact on the war?
I seem to recall they were actually fighting with the Tribals before joining officially.
My suspicion (and feel free to prove me wrong) is that you donÆt actually mean that a group canÆt be effective against a militia unless they join, but that you are just striking out with every possible insult rather than biting into the meat of the issue.
Besides a Militia pilot canÆt go through Amarr very effectively, or Youl or Mista or any of the Amarr systems. A pilot at war with groups like Absinthe or PIE yet not in the militia can. Maybe one could argue which tactic has the ômostö effect but I donÆt see how that has no effect.
CVA as a whole has an entire region to govern and deal with multiple threats everyday in providence in the name of the Empire, their conviction is there but cannot pour all of their resources into this war, otherwise if they did all of minnie space would be in the hands of the 24thIC.
And you are right, one does not need to be the militia in order to show a difference and to support it, so I stand corrected, but let me state, that SF's actions have done little to deter us, and because of this, everything that comes out of your mouths just seems like a balloon blowing stale air trying to promote how (not really) "great" you guys (and 1 hermaphrodite) are.
So all i'm saying is that for SF, you would do better to send a contingent of pilots into the war directly so you can have a better impact.
P.S. RKK could have done well outside of the militia against us, but have already done way more inside the tribals force then what they would have done outside of it. Take a lesson from that page Tomahawk
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
CVA as a whole has an entire region to govern and deal with multiple threats everyday in providence in the name of the Empire, their conviction is there but cannot pour all of their resources into this war, otherwise if they did all of minnie space would be in the hands of the 24thIC.
Maybe yes, maybe no. We can agree the combined CVA focus could certainly have supreme effect, though at the cost of Providence the gain probably isnÆt worth it.
Originally by: Invelious
And you are right, one does not need to be the militia in order to show a difference and to support it, so I stand corrected, but let me state, that SF's actions have done little to deter us, and because of this, everything that comes out of your mouths just seems like a balloon blowing stale air trying to promote how (not really) "great" you guys (and 1 hermaphrodite) are.
We are in agreement then on the lack of necessity for a group to hold Militia membership to have effect. Which was the only real point I wanted to make, SF can have effect even if it doesnÆt battle by Concord Regulations.
We do disagree (surprise!) on what level of effect has been had. I will say though that I am not trying to promote how ôgreatö I am, nor how ôgreatö SF is in general. The information is available for anyone to make a decision on that front. My own opinion on the matter isnÆt so cut and dry anyway. I measure ôgreatö in my own way as I am sure you do as well. Success, longevity, certain goals achieved, effect relative to size and all that.
à ôhermaphroditeö ? Do you have problems with hermaphrodites? When a person is no longer a mere mortal what matters what bits of flesh are attached in what locations? Is this some Amarr thing where Hermaphrodites are witches?
Originally by: Invelious
RKK could have done well outside of the militia against us, but have already done way more inside the tribals force then what they would have done outside of it. Take a lesson from that page Tomahawk
Even before they joined though the rumble of their name lent trepidation to the foot steps of the 24th.
As to taking lessons, I actually had lessons from RKK many years ago. Different people from a different time but in that memory I still hold RKK with respect, everyone should. We all start out as blank slates of ignorance, stumbling along as grubs in the grass desperate to avoid m0o colored blades. RKK wasnÆt alone is lending to my general knowledge but they certainly were a part.
Originally by: Invelious
So all IÆm saying is that for SF, you would do better to send a contingent of pilots into the war directly so you can have a better impact.
Maybe yes, maybe no. it isnÆt reasonable to require the dissolution of an organization to meet a theoretical goal standard. Not to mention the NRDS policy which is hard to mix in this battle. That however is a topic for another thread.
Thanks for the cogent replies, there just isnÆt anything to say to comments like ôStar Craptionö except maybe to ask for a hall pass.
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Secretary Phase
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Posted - 2009.07.21 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Secretary Phase on 21/07/2009 00:05:28
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow Indeed am indeed sorry for posting inbetween all the TLF support you are getting here.
Why would our allies need to support us in an IGS battle exactly? We don't need anyone's help to pour scorn on those too cowardly to post with their own identities.
You are a pathetic worm. Go back under your stone and pray that nobody finds out where you live.
Interestingly enough, this is my real identitity - how I would use another one in this communications channel is beyond my horizon, maybe you can enlighten me (?)
Now on a side note, during my studies of the conflict, I've always found it interesting what motivates your minions to spend hours of boredom patroling Kamela station undock despite the insignificance of the effort.
Reviewing your organisations combat records, it must be the fiendish joy of sneaking on Minmatar Militia combat records whilst hiding behind them cloaked until you're sure everything is safe, using them as a meatshield.
I assume the feeling must be much alike to what psychopaths feel when they managed to sneak a cretin into a sperm bank...
I'd back it up with facts, but as any real information has been gagged even on more liberal channels than this one, I presume there is no point in trying to do so in this padded cell...
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow Indeed am indeed sorry for posting
You are a pathetic worm. Go back under your stone and pray that nobody finds out where you live.
Interestingly enough, this is my real identitity -
does that mean Lucifers Widow is an alias of yours?
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
And you are right, one does not need to be the militia in order to show a difference and to support it, so I stand corrected, but let me state, that SF's actions have done little to deter us, and because of this, everything that comes out of your mouths just seems like a balloon blowing stale air trying to promote how (not really) "great" you guys (and 1 hermaphrodite) are.
Mostly Invelious its because you aren't actually active in the warzone and have no clear idea of what goes on day to day. You listen to foolish men saying foolish things in the hope of puffing out their own chests and laughing off the shadow of fear that comes over them whenever our ships are sighted in local.
It is virtually impossible for us to find a 24th Crusade corporation that is prepared to fight at the moment. Mostly our targets run the moment we are sighted. And they are wise too because we have left a ghastly trial of amarrian corpses and shattered corps along the path of this campaign. When we wardec a 24th Crusade entity it spells the kiss of death to their "courage". It restricts their ship choice to frigates and destroyers and light ships only. It endangers them at all times and all places and it is especially noteworthy that for all the declarations we have made against Militia targets so very few have ever been returned.
Even the boasting blowhards of Helljumpers and Gunship Diplomacy have shied away from counter wardeccing the Star Fraction and there is a good reason for this. They don't want us assassinating their commanders and removing their support elements from the warzone. Instead they find other "battles" and "causes" a long long way away from us. It is far safer for them that way.
Quote: So all i'm saying is that for SF, you would do better to send a contingent of pilots into the war directly so you can have a better impact.
What better impact can we have than to terrorise the 24th Crusade corps to the degree that they are unwilling to fight at all with Star Fraction pilots in system? 30mins ago I attacked and successfully assassinated the Helljumper FC of a 24th crusade group that had just gained a short term victory over a TLF group in Kourm. At the cost of my own Armageddon I destroyed his Armaggedon admist his fleet and opened a jump portal from the -JFS- Black Plan that allowed SF battleships to rake the field of amarrian loyalists and chase the jackels from their victory dinner in wide disarray.
Victory to utter chaos and rout in 2mins flat. That is the essence of terror and that it is precisely the lesson that the 24th Crusaders are learning in this warzone.
12 ships against 1 and still I shot the tyrant in the face. This is the warrior spirit that the Minmatar Resistance movement shares with the Star Fraction. It is what binds us as comrades in a common struggle and it is the truth that will always elude the weak and the regressive.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow Indeed am indeed sorry for posting
You are a pathetic worm. Go back under your stone and pray that nobody finds out where you live.
Interestingly enough, this is my real identitity -
does that mean Lucifers Widow is an alias of yours?
It comes to something when a coward has multiple fake identities each supporting the other in a complex weave of half-murmured lies. How terrible the reputation of this creature to hide it so desperately?
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.21 01:45:00 -
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Quote:
What better impact can we have than to terrorise the 24th Crusade corps to the degree that they are unwilling to fight at all with Star Fraction pilots in system?
Still so self-centered. When you realise that pod pilots killing pod pilots is about the most unimportant thing in the theater of war, you might actually begin to matter.
Until that day, you are an utterly irrelevant gnat on the sidelines whose only accomplishment in six years has been the propagation of pointless death.
Where your organisations impotent attempts to become relevant using the same tired and self-centered methods over the last years were at first intriguing, even almost threatening, now they are utterly boring.
Perhaps it is time for you to try a different tune. I suggest starting by expunging the refrain that screams "Its all about me!" so incessantly.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Where your organisations impotent attempts to become relevant using the same tired and self-centered methods over the last years were at first intriguing, even almost threatening, now they are utterly boring.Perhaps it is time for you to try a different tune. I suggest starting by expunging the refrain that screams "Its all about me!" so incessantly.
I have no idea what makes you think I'd care to listen to advise from a yapping dog?
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Havohej
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.07.21 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Why would our allies need to support us in an IGS battle exactly?
Because it was an excuse to use my "Kamela DMZ" line. I've been waiting for such an excuse for over a week, now.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why would our allies need to support us in an IGS battle exactly?
Because it was an excuse to use my "Kamela DMZ" line. I've been waiting for such an excuse for over a week, now.
It was a good line
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.21 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I have no idea what makes you think I'd care to listen to advise from a yapping dog?
How utterly boring. When you come up with a retort that actually has some sting to it, please do let me know. You might begin to be interesting again.
Until then, do feel free to bask in the delusions of grandeur you create to try and make your wretched existence as an impotent peon bearable.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
How utterly boring. When you come up with a retort that actually has some sting to it, please do let me know. You might begin to be interesting again.
Perhaps you should suicide some more Punishers about it?
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Mira Walsh
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Posted - 2009.07.21 06:55:00 -
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This is becoming yet another SF vs Amarrian Militia bash. Ok some related news on the thread topic.
Combined fleet of RKK + Minmatars are running a plexxing campaign on the warfronts in the Bleak Lands region. This has forced more plexxing fleets to be formed from the Amarr militia to stop this hostile takeover of the holy lands of God. Yesterday, RKK forces took plexes in Sosala with a mixed fleet of T1/T2 cruisers and Frigates.
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Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2009.07.21 07:37:00 -
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A long time ago, on a planet deep down in Metropolis, was an old sage. He was living in a forest close to a village, and often came to the village to preach to the peasants on how to live a proper live. One day, a group of villagers came to him, surrounded him, and pointed fingers.
"Who are you to claim you are a sage?," they yelled.
To which he replied, "oh, well, I seem to know a lot."
This enraged the villagers greatly. They all started dancing around him, pointing fingers, and screaming:
"You think the whole world revolves around you! You are so self-centered! You assume everyone cares about you!," they screamed.
"Well, maybe the whole world does not revolve around me - but you sure as hell do."
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.07.21 11:42:00 -
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The constnat glaots and chest beating is the only way starfraction get what they want "attention" the moer you ignore it the fursther down the ladder the post goes.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.22 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: BattleStar Crusader The constnat glaots and chest beating is the only way starfraction get what they want "attention" the moer you ignore it the fursther down the ladder the post goes.
Is that constant gloating and chest beating from your side you are talking about there BattleStar Crusader?
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.22 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Grimster It has long been my wish to fight on the side of my brothers and sisters in the Republic and now we have been given the opportunity I personally will be grasping it with both hands.
Respect to all our allies in this worthy struggle, to the rest, see you in space.
Welcome to the war against slavery, brother! May your weapons ever strike true.
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Edited by: Poreuomai on 24/07/2009 13:25:56
May you introduce many ammarian slavers to the cold void of space!
Originally by: Anneka Tong what is this page all about?
I want to hear about Reikoku's adventures, not yet another Star Fraction argument, for there are enough of those already.
Indeed, SF & 24th should argue here: [Star Fraction] Notice of hostile standings to 24th Crusade Affiliates
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zoolkhan
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.24 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 24/07/2009 13:35:21
nothing is less interesting than two people having a rather private argument , in a public thread, that seem to have little to do with the original post.
I dont mean to disrespect my long term foe, and certainly not a trusted ally...but .. maybe.. either let it be about RKK joining the militia, or QSY to a different frequency or a private lowgravitationsex room in a random gallente station.
RKK has over the time, recruited many skilled freedom fighter into their ranks - who then unfortunately focussed on rather unworthy opponents that came in swarms and deserve no respect.
However, it was just a logical move to now join the rebellion...and may it just be on a temporary basis i am sure my brothers in the militia can use the additional help from veterans like those of the RKK.
i salute the deicision in the hope to have brought back the market square to the village centre of this discussion.
recruiting -forum
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stonerbeattie
1st Cavalry Division
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Posted - 2009.07.24 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Grim Asse Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 14:27:53 Wow - how the mighty have fallen.
Being the founding member of the most successfull alliance eve has ever seen . . . . . Getting screwed over by Goons . . . . Failing to take anything back from them . . . Joining the empires training grounds for pilots to have a peek at pvp . . Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest . Rock bottom
Those guys must be really desperate for a victory - but yeah - understandable they want to play it safe - with them joining, the combined RKK/Minmatar forces outnumber the allrady heavily outnumbered 2600 Amarr pvp beginners by a thousand - hope that is enough.
Good plan, really.
Well - at least they have the guts to drop their alliance and join for real - unlike SF that wardec 2-3 small noob corps at a time so they can't be shot by the main bulk of the Amarr.
I actually had lots of respect for BoB and its member corps, but now, if it wasn't for SF, I'd call RKK the lowest of the low New Eden hast to offer, but they're a close runner up...
Now hurry to grind your Minmatar standings
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would just like 2 say you fail at life have a gd day
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Jodie Amille
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.07.24 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: stonerbeattie
Originally by: Grim Asse Edited by: Grim Asse on 27/06/2009 14:27:53 Wow - how the mighty have fallen.
Being the founding member of the most successfull alliance eve has ever seen . . . . . Getting screwed over by Goons . . . . Failing to take anything back from them . . . Joining the empires training grounds for pilots to have a peek at pvp . . Picking to fight the by far smallest militia by joining the second biggest . Rock bottom
Those guys must be really desperate for a victory - but yeah - understandable they want to play it safe - with them joining, the combined RKK/Minmatar forces outnumber the allrady heavily outnumbered 2600 Amarr pvp beginners by a thousand - hope that is enough.
Good plan, really.
Well - at least they have the guts to drop their alliance and join for real - unlike SF that wardec 2-3 small noob corps at a time so they can't be shot by the main bulk of the Amarr.
I actually had lots of respect for BoB and its member corps, but now, if it wasn't for SF, I'd call RKK the lowest of the low New Eden hast to offer, but they're a close runner up...
Now hurry to grind your Minmatar standings
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would just like 2 say you fail at life have a gd day
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Grim Asse
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Posted - 2009.07.24 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: stonerbeattie
would just like 2 say you fail at life have a gd day
Interesting
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.24 23:25:00 -
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The warriors of RKK have chosen wisely. I wish them luck on their adventures, and who knows perhaps our paths shall cross as brothers in arms!
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.07.25 00:09:00 -
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See i'm sad to see BoB gone, i used to get wicked deals from RKK and another I wont mention BoB corp on ships, zealots fully t2 fitted for 60mil each was amazing. But alas, no more.
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