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Varimatras deVolair Amarr I.D.I.O.T. Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.07.01 00:24:00 - [61] Originally by: Princess Stefani Edited by: Princess Stefani on 01/07/2009 00:10:48 funny how some carebears feel like they need to justify their own actions, as if they owe everyone an explanation coz we care deeply. pls keep this up, you're making your corp look like bunch of idiots (no pun intended \o/) obviously is was my intention to clarify the situation as a partie involved. Carebears? where? i hope you dont meant me, as the 2 month old npc corp toon you are...and just by the way, if we look like a bunch of idiots, it may be better for us, coz we get underestimated/looking like carebears and easy kills and so we will get more targets to shoot at :)
Matrix Skye Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.07.01 00:25:00 - [62] Originally by: Amarr Citizen20090214 Originally by: Varimatras deVolair meh, i dont wanted to reply here, but as one of the parties involved, i say just this: -youre not such a noob, as you want to make us believe to -your corphistory speaks for herself -you seem to be a very unhappy guy, who want to be the man and start crying, when the things went into another direction, as wanted by youreself -youre still seem to be a very ignorant guy and also a lier, not just only because you cant count, you also just missed to tell the guys here that you spoke with our alliance co-ceo, who explained the whole situation and rules to you and the only thing you have to do, was still ignoring the facts and rules and opening this ******* thread and start whining, how unfair we are ( oh yes were such bastards, we folloed our rules and killed ya with 2 man, its the big bad provi blob you know ?! ), and that were nothin more than pirates who use our NRDS policy to catch such "noobs", like you. -the only goal youve reached is to blame youreself instead of us and our longtime and to most ppl known and accepted rules. o7 Vari Kepp the drama rolling and the bed spelting ! lulz Because when logic fails you, you could always make fun of his English not being his first language. This thread shall now be on what bad spellers CVA and company are! GO!
Raf'retouver	Posted - 2009.07.01 00:35:00 - [63] Edited by: Raf''retouver on 01/07/2009 00:36:25 Originally by: Varimatras deVolair meh, i dont wanted to reply here, but as one of the parties involved, i say just this: -youre not such a noob, as you want to make us believe to -your corphistory speaks for herself -you seem to be a very unhappy guy, who want to be the man and start crying, when the things went into another direction, as wanted by youreself -youre still seem to be a very ignorant guy and also a lier, not just only because you cant count, you also just missed to tell the guys here that you spoke with our alliance co-ceo, who explained the whole situation and rules to you and the only thing you have to do, was still ignoring the facts and rules and opening this ******* thread and start whining, how unfair we are ( oh yes were such bastards, we folloed our rules and killed ya with 2 man, its the big bad provi blob you know ?! ), and that were nothin more than pirates who use our NRDS policy to catch such "noobs", like you. -the only goal youve reached is to blame youreself instead of us and our longtime and to most ppl known and accepted rules. o7 Vari I'll rest my case, if it make you feel better... I am the bad @ss pirate and was up to no good then.... It seems like i stirred a hornet's nest...it's not worth it... Why I AM the one who got podded yet others're crying is beyond me... Let it rest guys, it's my own fault. Srsly, my first thread on this forum doesn't deserve 3 pages of replies......
Irle R1	Posted - 2009.07.01 00:42:00 - [64] Originally by: Varimatras deVolair ....(rap..... so we will get more targets to shoot at :) Like shooting noobs in NRDS \o/
04121982 Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.01 00:50:00 - [65] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Amarr Citizen20090214 Originally by: Varimatras deVolair meh, i dont wanted to reply here, but as one of the parties involved, i say just this: -youre not such a noob, as you want to make us believe to -your corphistory speaks for herself -you seem to be a very unhappy guy, who want to be the man and start crying, when the things went into another direction, as wanted by youreself -youre still seem to be a very ignorant guy and also a lier, not just only because you cant count, you also just missed to tell the guys here that you spoke with our alliance co-ceo, who explained the whole situation and rules to you and the only thing you have to do, was still ignoring the facts and rules and opening this ******* thread and start whining, how unfair we are ( oh yes were such bastards, we folloed our rules and killed ya with 2 man, its the big bad provi blob you know ?! ), and that were nothin more than pirates who use our NRDS policy to catch such "noobs", like you. -the only goal youve reached is to blame youreself instead of us and our longtime and to most ppl known and accepted rules. o7 Vari Kepp the drama rolling and the bed spelting ! lulz Because when logic fails you, you could always make fun of his English not being his first language. This thread shall now be on what bad spellers CVA and company are! GO! Too ballsy to post with your CVA/serv3 main no doubt? hey what are those you just dropped!? it's A PAIR OF BALLS!''
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.01 01:21:00 - [66] As this is an OOC forum, I'll just say that (1) Sev was entirely justified in shooting you. When a space holder sees a formerly hostile (yet currently neutral) stealth bomber trying to make their way into their territory, the first logical thought is going to be "this guy is out to pop our miners/ratters", since bombers aren't a traditional ratting/mining ship. (2) Even if they had gone through the effort to scan your "failfit manticore", I doubt that knowing that you were actually set up as a ninja looter would have improved the situation any. (3) As to the speculation regarding the OP's noob status, I have to point out that stealth bombers are nearly ideal for running blockades, yet he managed to lose his to a group of IDIOTS. 'Nuff said. :) (4) In any case, anyone who has to resort to "They shot a neutral spy" as evidence that the entirety of the ProviBlock are ebil bastages needs to do just a little more research. -- Becq Starforged The Flame of Freedom Burns On!
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.07.01 01:37:00 - [67] Funny. I frequently go around provi space with my Zero-Zero Noob-corp-alt, circling gates as a scout. Every time i have been at threat of CVA killing her on suspect of being a spy, i am given fair warning (1-3 minutes to move on / clarify status) before they pursue her aggressively. I have also had my corporation set red a while back due to our brief membership in a Pro-U'K alliance (Which we left shortly after they became "Pro-U'k") and a trigger happy member who was kicked shortly after. Everything was sorted in a timely manner and apologies were extended for the loss of a couple of cruisers due to us not knowing we were red, we got set back to neutral and i've never once been shot since. I guess you're just an idiot then, OP. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Matrix Skye Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.07.01 01:39:00 - [68] Originally by: 04121982 Too ballsy to post with your CVA/serv3 main no doubt? hey what are those you just dropped!? it's A PAIR OF BALLS!'' Said the alt to the other alt.
stupid flanders The 0ri Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.07.01 02:02:00 - [69] Edited by: stupid flanders on 01/07/2009 02:02:18 Originally by: Matrix Skye Show us on this doll where these horrible monsters touched you. not much on these forums actually makes me laugh out oud but that did it.
cBOLTSON	Posted - 2009.07.01 02:04:00 - [70] Edited by: cBOLTSON on 01/07/2009 02:05:43 Ok, does anyone else thik this thread is just plain funny? Just to let you know, CVA and friends do a relativly good job at keeping their space NRDS/NOOB friendly. But if you get killed though luck. Besides its fun to go and play in CVA space! (pew pew )
Minmatar Assassin Minmatar Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2009.07.01 02:10:00 - [71] Edited by: Minmatar Assassin on 01/07/2009 02:11:07 Sev3rance NRDS tactic is simple some of PVP type. Target comes to NRDS space feeling about that and doesn't starts shooting. These delay confuse him, 'couse NRDS keepers opens fire first and gets better chance to win fight. To Raf'retouver - 'You not the first and not the last.' With all respect to RP of CVA, - our pets are cheating your roleplaying. Bad....
Raf'retouver	Posted - 2009.07.01 08:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Blane Xero Funny. I frequently go around provi space with my Zero-Zero Noob-corp-alt, circling gates as a scout. Every time i have been at threat of CVA killing her on suspect of being a spy, i am given fair warning (1-3 minutes to move on / clarify status) before they pursue her aggressively. I have also had my corporation set red a while back due to our brief membership in a Pro-U'K alliance (Which we left shortly after they became "Pro-U'k") and a trigger happy member who was kicked shortly after. Everything was sorted in a timely manner and apologies were extended for the loss of a couple of cruisers due to us not knowing we were red, we got set back to neutral and i've never once been shot since. I guess you're just an idiot then, OP. If you've read all my previous post, then you should know my intention and attitude was quite clear : 1/ This IS a QQ thread(stated on first line of OP) just like 90% of the threads on forum, so that abusive persons like you can have a chance to attack someone and get off on it. 2/ I choose to post on forum, since after talking to a Serv3rance alliance head he basically told me ''tough luck and f-off'' 3/ If I don't agree/understand with certain rules, I bring it to awareness as other players might have/still will suffer the same faith(as it turn out there are.) 4/ I understand the aggressiveness from certain Serv3 toons/alts as this thread no doubt put them under spot light and exposing their hypocrisy 5/ To prevent this subject from escalating, I've admitted my own nubness and failure to read their rules before hand. But you don't seem to understand what really happened, calling me an idiot is the perfect proof for that. My ship was spotted and tracked then bubbled 10mins after i arrived in providence(to support my claim, 7-G is one jump from high sec Amarr) there is no question, no warning, and as i mentioned before no convo exchanged in local, before i can react/ask for reason I was already in another system's station, in my new clone. It occurred to me that I might be the victim of some trigger happy/bored Serv3 members who're actively looking for targets. So you did the same thing in the past huh? even openly admitting scouting/spying frequently and you still got a warning and time to leave? and you even got compensated 'couple of your cruisers'? good for you. Well i didn't have your luck, you should turn full time providence spy/scout tbh.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Slightly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.07.01 08:56:00 - [73] This may be a precedence-setting thread. I can't remember the last time so many U-K pilots came to the defense of CVA. I think that really says something about the OP's case. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
DarthMopp Gallente I.D.I.O.T. Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.07.01 08:59:00 - [74] Vari, no need to justify your actions here. We acted within the Holders ROE. Our fellow CVA Pilots alread stated why Raf'retrouver was being shot and podded. If you, Raf'retrouver, need any more explanations feel free to convo me ingame. "Alea iacta est"
Unholy Martyr Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.07.01 09:00:00 - [75] CVA should keep their pets in check NRDS = biggest noob luring scam lol
Amarr Citizen20090214 Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.07.01 09:07:00 - [76] Originally by: Raf'retouver .... before i can react/ask for reason I was already in another system's station, in my new clone. It occurred to me that I might be the victim of some trigger happy/bored Serv3 members who're actively looking for targets. Pretty obvious aint it
Morel Nova z3r0 Gravity YARRR and CO	Posted - 2009.07.01 11:25:00 - [77] Edited by: Morel Nova on 01/07/2009 11:25:45 About -7-, as someone who has had dealings with them over the years I'd like to warn that they are a bunch of honorless dogs who do pretty much whatever they want and hide behind NRDS "exceptions" and CVA diplos. Its not without reason they are often called CVA's "proxy pirates". What really opened my eyes was them joining in on an attack on our pirate corp led by CVA while we had mutual blue status. stabbing from the back like the cowards they are of course. There have also been numerous other transgressions I wont need mention here. On a sidenote, I have always found CVA honorable and fair. Put in space whales!
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2009.07.01 12:13:00 - [78] CVA is in no way a "NRDS" alliance lol. Stop, hammer time.
Jones Bones Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.01 12:45:00 - [79] CVA have been doing what they do for years and everytime one of you tards comes in here with some epic story of being ganked one of their reps shows up to explain why. Stop crying like a little *****. =================== Go Bucks!
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.07.01 13:58:00 - [80] Sev. have a well deserved rep for playing loose with NRDS, the simple solution is to avoid their space. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Morel Nova z3r0 Gravity YARRR and CO	Posted - 2009.07.01 14:27:00 - [81] Edited by: Morel Nova on 01/07/2009 14:28:16 Originally by: RedSplat Sev. have a well deserved rep for playing loose with NRDS, the simple solution is to avoid their space. if by "playing loose" you mean pumping it full of drugs and sending it off to vegas with a kleptomaniac clown called Uncle PepT then yes, thats pretty accurate Put in space whales!
Zim Zimmerson	Posted - 2009.07.01 15:34:00 - [82] Edited by: Zim Zimmerson on 01/07/2009 15:35:27 My experience is that CVA is legit. You can get some great kills on them if you're a new player / new corporation. They will look for "red" in the zone and if they see any they'll run and hide (and/or blob the exits) but if you're not red, then it's like one big happy family and we managed to get a few really nice kills before they caught on and marked us red. Also, KBP7-G is Severance space, not CVA. I guess they're related and doing the same basic deal but it's still not "CVA". I would actually greatly encourage newbies to check out CVA space. If you are really a newbie and want to go find some people who will let you play with them in 0.0 without a lot of paranoia or requirements to join, go check out the Providence area, probably starting with G-5EN2. I say this not because I am interested in helping you so much as because more newbies in that area would give us more targets to catch unaware and blow up. CVA is what they say they are, though.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.07.01 16:08:00 - [83] If CVA and Sev3rance were into the habit of 'shooting pigeons' and killing off people in noob corps etc. You would have thought that they would kill the Maruders, Freighters, Faction Battleships, Orcas etc. that I have seen quite a few of in Providence rather than picking off Bantams, Punishers and Manticores.
Jesuis Unesalope	Posted - 2009.07.01 16:28:00 - [84] Originally by: RedSplat Sev. have a well deserved rep for playing loose with NRDS, the simple solution is to avoid their space. that
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.01 17:53:00 - [85] Always interesting to see the varied opinions on CVA from friend and foe alike. I would hazard a guess that those foes who have bitter feelings towards CVA (and it's interesting to note that not all of our enemies do) are folks who have in some way or another thought they could exploit the "Not Red Don't Shoot" rules of engagement to get away with some easy kills...only to find that we've been at this for years and have tweaked our rules of engagement accordingly. Upon getting blown away and then finding out that the Providence community was a step ahead of said offender because we've thought our rules of engagement out better than most people think a "carebear" community can do, the offender carries his grudge to the forum for the rest of his days. What's sad about that is simply getting kills in our space as an out-and-out red with even mildly decent combat/evasion skills is 100% easier than trying to find an exploitable hole in our ROE. If you want to come to our space and get kills, just do it. Trying to get fancy with rules generally doesn't end well.
thion li g guild Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.07.01 19:05:00 - [86] CVA is the most disorganized Alliance I have ever seen, it really makes me wonder how they got a Constellation Capital sometimes.
Amber Saint Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.07.01 19:11:00 - [87] Edited by: Amber Saint on 01/07/2009 19:12:24 Originally by: thion li CVA is the most disorganized Alliance I have ever seen, it really makes me wonder how they got a Constellation Capital sometimes. Imperial Republic Of the North CVA is probably one of the most succesful alliances in eve in their own respect, they're responsible for making the funnest region to roam to in eve
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.07.01 19:19:00 - [88] IRON calling out CVA on being disorganised? Forgotten last months news already? In all seriousness, in my personal experience of pirating in Providence for over a year now, CVA are a well-respected foe and are very organised.
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.07.01 20:11:00 - [89] It's 0.0. Everyone is a threat, nobody is your friend. NBSI, NRDS, it all means the same thing. If you're not a known quantity, you're very likely to be dead. And even if you ARE, you're still pretty likely to end up that way. Killboard - Declarations of War Podcast
Kristina Trepkas Amarr The Light Of Other Days	Posted - 2009.07.01 21:43:00 - [90] Originally by: Morden Nok As it was explained earlier ingame to op, CVA and Holders judge NPC corp members by their previous corp. OP's previous corp, Therapy. is member of KIA Alliance which is KOS to CVA. Ergo you were killed. Our ROE is explained quite clearly in our rules section. KOS by extension I believe you role-players call it. And it's not your space, it's CCP's which they allow you the privilege of using. Furthermore, you have local to rely on to keep your "pirates dressed up as police safe". We'll see how high and mighty you are when it eventually gets removed from 0.0

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