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ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.07.03 16:55:00 - [31] Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. indeed
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:03:00 - [32] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. indeed No.
Bodrul Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:04:00 - [33] Edited by: Bodrul on 03/07/2009 17:05:14 Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. indeed signed. people who get the wrath of concord deserve to lose insurance. 1St Prize: EVE Conquests Board Game, 2nd Prize: EVE:Shot Glass, 3rd Prize: Eve:Caldari Keychain Free ENTRY http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1096440http://www.eveonli
No Homo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:13:00 - [34] We're gonna need a mop to clean up all the tears in this thread
Kewso	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:13:00 - [35] people have been intentionally spawning concord for last 2 years that I know cause I've had whining pirate wanna be's say they were gonna petition only to flame cause ccp ignored them. hehe oops I shot my buddy by accident with my ibis and got popped in this belt :( ok ill go mine instead in same belt :) wait for pirate tears haha
Bodrul Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:16:00 - [36] Originally by: No Homo We're gonna need a mop to clean up all the tears in this thread why Mop when you can use 1St Prize: EVE Conquests Board Game, 2nd Prize: EVE:Shot Glass, 3rd Prize: Eve:Caldari Keychain Free ENTRY http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1096440http://www.eveonli
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:25:00 - [37] Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. Only when they also increase CONCORD response time so that commercial suicide ganking is still viable for the more valuable cargos or when you are prepared to take the loss. Wouldn't want highsec to be completely safe. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:26:00 - [38] Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts ~~to ships destroyed by Concord.~~ Fixed EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:27:00 - [39] Edited by: Dibsi Dei on 03/07/2009 17:27:05 Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP removed insurance. fixed edit: damn you akita!
Kara Xandi	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:27:00 - [40] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts ~~to ships destroyed by Concord.~~ Fixed Isn't there a level 4 mission thread you should be lurking in?

Maria Kalista Amarr Emerald Forest Securities	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts ~~to ships destroyed by Concord.~~ Fixed Will never happen. Just think of the noobs. Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
Illectroculus Defined	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:36:00 - [42] Look it's easy - Buffer tank your hulk, ignore what the mining guide says about deadspace shield boosters, that's only for tanking rat BS's. Instead fit a Damage Control II in the lows to get resists on your structure and some Invuln Field II's and Mag Scattering Amps II in the Mids and you'll easily get over twice the EHP of 'The Miners Guide' hulks. Use a character with higher security status so that concord arrives sooner.
Krystal Vernet Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. Only when they also increase CONCORD response time so that commercial suicide ganking is still viable for the more valuable cargos or when you are prepared to take the loss. Wouldn't want highsec to be completely safe. You'd still be able to profitably gank valuable cargo. It would just have to be far more valuable cargo than what you're ganking now. With or without insurance, as long as you can fire a weapon and kill someone before you die, high sec is never safe.
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2009.07.03 17:58:00 - [44] Originally by: Maria Kalista Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts ~~to ships destroyed by Concord.~~ Fixed Will never happen. Just think of the noobs. We'll let them keep their frigate/destroyer insurance programs. Nice nerf for the "skip destroyers and buy a cruiser" plans too.
Ryhss Caldari The Last Legion	Posted - 2009.07.03 18:02:00 - [45] Originally by: Wai Ng'Tse just sounds like metagaming, probs not an exploit. I agree with this.
Tippia Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.07.03 18:24:00 - [46] Originally by: Krystal Vernet Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. Only when they also increase CONCORD response time so that commercial suicide ganking is still viable for the more valuable cargos or when you are prepared to take the loss.Wouldn't want highsec to be completely safe. You'd still be able to profitably gank valuable cargo. It would just have to be far more valuable cargo than what you're ganking now. With or without insurance, as long as you can fire a weapon and kill someone before you die, high sec is never safe. But those higher-value cargoes will be carried in heavier-tanked ships, so to keep it profitable, they'll have to give the attackers a longer window of opportunity to take down the target. So it's a fairly reasonable trade: no insurance for suiciding is traded against easier suiciding. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.03 18:45:00 - [47] Edited by: Malcanis on 03/07/2009 18:46:06 Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. Such Insurance payouts are no more unrealistic than police who always automatically appear within 5-20 seconds, and always bring enough firepower to always neutralise the offender instantly. For free. If you want to argue for a realistic insurance policy alongside a realistic response to lawbreakers that costs something like what it's worth, then you have my support every step of the way.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:04:00 - [48] Originally by: Malcanis Such Insurance payouts are no more unrealistic than police who always automatically appear within 5-20 seconds, and always bring enough firepower to always neutralise the offender instantly. For free.] Well if the real life cops had teleportation, invulnerability and the ability to one shot pretty much any criminal they wanted they just might well do it for free. No risk no reward right? Originally by: Vaden Khale He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
Velvet Sinner	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:13:00 - [49] Um, yeah.... Goonies and gankers do it and it's using a game mechanic, and miners do it and it's an exploit? Fail. I smell ganker tears and complaints approaching. I agree. End all insurance payouts to CONCORD kills. In fact, FINE the gankers TRIPLE the expected insurance payout. :)
Warped Pestilence	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:16:00 - [50] Posting to say there is an official issue regarding the insurance payout from CONCORD actions going on in Assembly Hall forum channel. Please support this AH thread if you also think insurance payouts for pirate actions in hisec is absurd.

000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:26:00 - [51] Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. This tbfh!!! _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
buttesauce	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:37:00 - [52] people act like removing insurance will stop the jihad well 400b a month from moons will buy a hell of a lot of suicide BSes even without insurance. you guys aren't safe
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:53:00 - [53] Originally by: buttesauce people act like removing insurance will stop the jihad well 400b a month from moons will buy a hell of a lot of suicide BSes even without insurance. you guys aren't safe Lol. If they use up those 400bil fooling around in highsec, they'll get run over in 0.0 when they can no longer pay the POS fuel bills and capital replacements.
Ronos	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:57:00 - [54] Bah, who cares. Goons figured out a reason and a way to kill hulks in empire... and carebears fight back by figuring a way to protect themselves.... I LOVE IT. It's like a chess game... move, counter move, counter counter move... Eve Rocks !
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:00:00 - [55] Originally by: Kara Xandi It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord. This! Trinity Corporate Services
C0nundrum	Posted - 2009.07.03 21:56:00 - [56] Why not just let the alt slowly get to -10.0 sec status in high-sec? Instead of biomassing the alt and replacing, which afaik is in exploit, just keep the character in a safespot flying a pod in your favorite mining system. When its time to spawn more Concord, hop your main into an Ibis, fly over to the safespot, and eject. Go back to station, get in your mining ship, and head to the belt. Alt would then hop in the Ibis and fly it over to the belt you are in and pew pew your miner. Concord shows up, alt is further into the negative sec status, and he just flys back to the safe spot and logs. When you need Concord at another belt for protection, repeat the process. Unless of course spawning Concord in and of itself is considered an exploit, even if you dont biomass the character with bad sec status.
Bodrul Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.03 22:27:00 - [57] Originally by: buttesauce people act like removing insurance will stop the jihad well 400b a month from moons will buy a hell of a lot of suicide BSes even without insurance. you guys aren't safe and there i thought it was a crusade 1St Prize: EVE Conquests Board Game, 2nd Prize: EVE:Shot Glass, 3rd Prize: Eve:Caldari Keychain Free ENTRY http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1096440http://www.eveonli
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.07.03 23:45:00 - [58] Edited by: Zeba on 03/07/2009 23:45:53 Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: buttesauce people act like removing insurance will stop the jihad well 400b a month from moons will buy a hell of a lot of suicide BSes even without insurance. you guys aren't safe Lol. If they use up those 400bil fooling around in highsec, they'll get run over in 0.0 when they can no longer pay the POS fuel bills and capital replacements. Like the average goon is going to see even a single isk of that 400bil even after the infrastructure gets its cut. Just like bob all the real isk goes to the top goonie alliance members whilst the common worker bee has to subside on ratting and an alt missioner for his frigates and suicide bs. Originally by: Vaden Khale He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
Kaaii Caldari KaaiiNet Holding Executor Corp	Posted - 2009.07.04 00:05:00 - [59] Quote: But what for the future? We have a taskforce (Named TaskForce Doughnut!) which is dedicated to looking over these changes and proposing plans for the future. We have already started work on the above, but the future holds more changes. In addition, the highly requested feature of removal of insurance in CONCORD related events will be implemented in the near future. The CONCORD changes and Security penalty will be hitting TQ this fall, with Empyrean Age 1.1. Be safe out there! CCP Fear According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Essence Praetor Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.04 00:17:00 - [60] Concord is getting buffed again next patch so... carebears rejoice....



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