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VP Biden	Posted - 2009.07.03 07:47:00 - [1] Per Mittens the douche bag's guide to suiciding hulks: "Do not engage if Concord has already spawned in the location of your target." Go to your favorite veldspar buffet and get a friend or another account with a garbage character to attack your ship (using a rookie ship). Concord is now on hand to instantly deal with any goonswarm DBs.
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:23:00 - [2] Which is an exploit.
Booken Blue Gallente Ixion Defence Systems	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:32:00 - [3] Getting shot at is an exploit? ---
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:33:00 - [4] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 03/07/2009 08:33:09 Originally by: Booken Blue Getting shot at is an exploit? Intentionally spawning CONCORD so they're already on grid if you're later attacked by someone who actually intends on killing you.
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:36:00 - [5] Always the same, someone finds a way to annoy a few carebears and it's called a feature, then te carebear finds a clever way to deal with this 'feature' and they call it unfair... Go to 0.0 allready and stop bugging us hi sec dwellers. _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Maria Kalista Amarr Emerald Forest Securities	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Which is an exploit. No, getting rid of the char that invokes concords wrath is an exploit Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
Wai Ng'Tse	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:44:00 - [7] just sounds like metagaming, probs not an exploit.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:47:00 - [8] Originally by: Maria Kalista Originally by: Dirk Magnum Which is an exploit. No, getting rid of the char that invokes concords wrath is an exploit This is the correct issue that would be always considered an exploit As long as that "junk alt" (the one that will take the security hits for initiating highsec hostilities) recovers the security status naturally (by shooting NPCs) instead of getting recycled and replaced by a new one, you're fine. The "proper" way to do it is a very cumbersome one anyway. Also, the initial issue (of "calling in" CONCORD intentionally) could also be considered against the EULA, under the "generating unreasonable amounts of strain on the system" heading (or something similar). While a bit in the grey area, it could be ruled an exploit too... depending on the investigating GM, I presume. Not very likely, but possible. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Bestofworst Worstofbest	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:49:00 - [9] In that case, Goonswarm is breaking the EULA by making concord spawn and straining the server. The carebears are trying to relieve stress on the server by removing the roids in the belts. ________________________________________________ Am I an alt, main, or both? You decide!
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.03 08:52:00 - [10] Just spawn the concord yourself by remote repping a rat from an ibis before you start your roidrage. Even if that does cost you sec status, which it probably doesn't, in the next few hours you will more than get the sec status back from the belt rats anyway. No need for semiquestionable mechanic abuses. Wouldn't that be the same as becoming that which you hate the most?

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.07.03 09:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest In that case, Goonswarm is breaking the EULA by making concord spawn and straining the server. Of course you know the difference, but since you're being sarcastic, why not play along... Unintentional (but unavoidable) CONCORD spawns due to a response to a legitimate (EULA-wise) gank attempt are fine. Spawning CONCORD for the sake of spawning CONCORD (for "pre-emptive protection") isn't. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Hipogfryf	Posted - 2009.07.03 09:49:00 - [12] but isint ganking hulks causing extra strainign to servers too, therefor against eula?
Rordan D'Kherr Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.03 09:55:00 - [13] Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest In that case, Goonswarm is breaking the EULA by making concord spawn and straining the server. The carebears are trying to relieve stress on the server by removing the roids in the belts. I think all roids should be removed from empire.
Wai Ng'Tse	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Bestofworst Worstofbest In that case, Goonswarm is breaking the EULA by making concord spawn and straining the server. Of course you know the difference, but since you're being sarcastic, why not play along... Unintentional (but unavoidable) CONCORD spawns due to a response to a legitimate (EULA-wise) gank attempt are fine. Spawning CONCORD for the sake of spawning CONCORD (for "pre-emptive protection") isn't. CCP should just tweak concord mechanics a bit so that not so many spawn = not so much strain. Everybody's happy, and then it's no longer a grey area to spawn concord by creating aggro.
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Hipogfryf but isint ganking hulks causing extra strainign to servers too, therefor against eula? If CONCORD caused actual real lag, they would be despawned after the Criminals had left the vicinity. But they don't. They hang around till downtime. So if CCP want to rule their own inept design as an exploit, I'm good with that. But as with all exploits, they're only actually exploits if you get caught, and until then, they're not. Also of CCP's design.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:09:00 - [16] Originally by: 000Hunter000 Go to 0.0 allready and stop bugging us hi sec dwellers. how about you go to 0.0! the roids are bigger there anyways, and you don't have to worry about gankers.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:34:00 - [17] Here's my advice: 1.) Buffer tank your Hulks (they will need more ships to pop you) 2.) Mine away from trade hubs (they will travel farther to replace their ships) 3.) Do not fit any faction mods (they will get less ISK from popping you) 4.) Do not cry (they will get less satisfaction and no tear-fuel from you to keep them going) 5.) Have someone with a ECM Burst around (causing them all to lose lock after the first volley and get popped while they try to lock again is probably reason to laugh at them for a change, granted, the ECM burst ship will probably get its own CONCORD spawn) -------- Ideas for: Mining
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Tiny Tove So if CCP want to rule their own inept design as an exploit, I'm good with that. But as with all exploits, they're only actually exploits if you get caught, and until then, they're not. Also of CCP's design. That's why I said "not very likely, but possible" Still, the biomassing and replacement of alts used to trigger a CONCORD response, that would be always deemed an exploit. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.03 11:37:00 - [19] Originally by: VP Biden Per Mittens the douche bag's guide to suiciding hulks: "Do not engage if Concord has already spawned in the location of your target." Go to your favorite veldspar buffet and get a friend or another account with a garbage character to attack your ship (using a rookie ship). Concord is now on hand to instantly deal with any goonswarm DBs. First, its an exploit, and 2nd, it can be circumvented. :) --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.07.03 11:38:00 - [20] Originally by: Hipogfryf but isint ganking hulks causing extra strainign to servers too, therefor against eula? Your posting adds strain to the eve-o forums. Stop now, or i will report you ! You have been warned !!! --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout

Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.03 11:48:00 - [21] mhm use trial on someone else hulk ?:D 60D GTC - shattared link
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2009.07.03 12:03:00 - [22] Just a reminder - CONCORD will only attack once shots are fired. If the gankers bring enough firepower to kill you on the first salvo, all the CONCORD ships in the world won't prevent your Hulk getting popped.
Some Advisor	Posted - 2009.07.03 12:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: 000Hunter000 Go to 0.0 allready and stop bugging us hi sec dwellers. how about you go to 0.0! the roids are bigger there anyways, and you don't have to worry about gankers. wh roids are even bigger :P
Doomed Predator The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.07.03 13:18:00 - [24] Well,if all you high sec dwellers wouldn't cry like babies when your ships get blown up they'd have become bored of ganking you ages ago. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.07.03 13:20:00 - [25] Originally by: Doomed Predator Well,if all you high sec dwellers wouldn't cry like babies when your ships get blown up they'd have become bored of ganking you ages ago. This exactly. They're doing it for the fun of it. So the objective of the bears is to make it as much a unfunny and tedious grind for them as possible. -------- Ideas for: Mining
lola Dio	Posted - 2009.07.03 14:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Doomed Predator Well,if all you high sec dwellers wouldn't cry like babies when your ships get blown up they'd have become bored of ganking you ages ago. You know, I'm a noob to EVE. But I have seen so many posts just like this one. The funny thing is there is WAY more crying done by the pirate/merc whatever community. I mean every post about these goes the same way. "Carebear's" lol, try to come up with ideas to help a given situation. Followed by the inevitable "thats an exploit WAH!, Thats not right! WAH!, You guys need to go 0.0 (of course, because I have way more skill points, and all specced to combat. and i and my toadies will gank u seconds. and then will be able to elaborate as to how u are a noob, and shouldve checked rules of that system. or payed more attention. or some other such nonsense.). I mean honestly I lawl my self silly. When I constantly see whiny tear filled posts by lo sec gankers, saying that carebears cry too much. First time i came to forums I had to reread several posts trying to find the crying carebear post I missed. Now granted there are some crying carebears out there. But they cant compare to the whining emo'ness that is the lo sec forum carebear. But plz keep it up. Its always good for a laugh. WARP STABS ARE OP! WAHHH!!! as I heard in local one day in trip thru lo sec.
Midge Mo'yb Antares Shipyards Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.07.03 14:57:00 - [27] Originally by: lola Dio Originally by: Doomed Predator Well,if all you high sec dwellers wouldn't cry like babies when your ships get blown up they'd have become bored of ganking you ages ago. You know, I'm a noob to EVE. But I have seen so many posts just like this one. The funny thing is there is WAY more crying done by the pirate/merc whatever community. I mean every post about these goes the same way. "Carebear's" lol, try to come up with ideas to help a given situation. Followed by the inevitable "thats an exploit WAH!, Thats not right! WAH!, You guys need to go 0.0 (of course, because I have way more skill points, and all specced to combat. and i and my toadies will gank u seconds. and then will be able to elaborate as to how u are a noob, and shouldve checked rules of that system. or payed more attention. or some other such nonsense.). I mean honestly I lawl my self silly. When I constantly see whiny tear filled posts by lo sec gankers, saying that carebears cry too much. First time i came to forums I had to reread several posts trying to find the crying carebear post I missed. Now granted there are some crying carebears out there. But they cant compare to the whining emo'ness that is the lo sec forum carebear. But plz keep it up. Its always good for a laugh. WARP STABS ARE OP! WAHHH!!! as I heard in local one day in trip thru lo sec. Warp stabs are overpowere?... My heavy dictor disagrees... -----------------------------------------------
lola Dio	Posted - 2009.07.03 15:03:00 - [28] Well dont shot the messenger hero. Tell the Carebear I left behind in the assault ship.
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.07.03 15:53:00 - [29] goons out ganking hulks again? I guess they got too little to do :P
Kara Xandi	Posted - 2009.07.03 16:48:00 - [30] It's about time CCP stopped insurance payouts to ships destroyed by Concord.



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