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Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:31:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
Had every single EVE Player Who Ever Lived in the Whole Universe voted for him........he STILL would have been thrown off.
Idiot.
You realize you put the wrong part of that sentence in bold, right? |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:31:00 -
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Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch.  ...just a thought!!
I can actually get behind this! ...(and not in THAT way). Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Nethras
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:32:00 -
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Ocih wrote:free logistical intell for you Goons.
Sell all your technetium at 70K P/U Once the nerf comes out (we know it will) you can have a bunch of worthless Technetium or you can have a bunch of ISK to buy the now worthless Technetium. Aside from reactor units, fullerides aren't in demand. There is too much technetium in EVE now. It will only get worse with ring mining.
You actually think that anyone has piles of tech laying around? OTEC isn't reducing supply to raise prices, it's just removing price competition between the major suppliers and raising the price they were selling at a bit. Tech IS the main bottleneck for most T2 production, and no one is dumb enough to stockpile it beyond having supplies that just haven't sold yet or minor stockpiles for logistical purposes if they're doing reactions or other production - EVERYONE has been expecting a nerf to tech since the moon rebalance, it's not a good investment to stockpile. Thing is, tech was a bottleneck for T2 when that went in, and there aren't more tech moons now but there are more people playing, so there certainly isn't surplus tech around.
Oh, and ring mining? If that's all that's done, tech prices will fall, but all the other moon goo will likely end up below the price of fuel to mine it, leaving the tech regions as the only ones remotely worth anything from moon standpoint. And that's assuming that ring mining ignores regional moon distribution - a logical assumption, but not one I'd feel safe making till we see it in action. |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:33:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch.  ...just a thought!! I can actually get behind this!  ...(and not in THAT way).
That would suit goons more than everyone else. Rifter swarm would be way way more dangerous.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
842
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:35:00 -
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Tech2 items needing tech, hmm.. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
245
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:36:00 -
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Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch.  ...just a thought!!
You do realise that Goons would just win again, only quicker this time?
Actually that sounds good, the teary-eyed blubbering of slack jawed pubbies trying to rationalize how the dumb Goonies in Rifters managed to shaft them twice over would be utterly, utterly glorious. Heh. |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:36:00 -
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ModeratedToSilence wrote:
That would suit goons more than everyone else. Rifter swarm would be way way more dangerous.
The chaos would be hilarious to watch. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:38:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:
That would suit goons more than everyone else. Rifter swarm would be way way more dangerous.
The chaos would be hilarious to watch.
You would whine about it when 500 goon rifters were orbit the station you were docked in 23/7
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
842
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:39:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch.  ...just a thought!! You do realise that Goons would just win again, only quicker this time? Actually that sounds good, the teary-eyed blubbering of slack jawed pubbies trying to rationalize how the dumb Goonies in Rifters managed to shaft them twice over would be utterly, utterly glorious. Titans would be rare... for a little while. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:40:00 -
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ModeratedToSilence wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:ModeratedToSilence wrote:
That would suit goons more than everyone else. Rifter swarm would be way way more dangerous.
The chaos would be hilarious to watch. You would whine about it when 500 goon rifters were orbit the station you were docked in 23/7
The Chaos would be hilarious to watch. Again. Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
88
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:41:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: Titans would be rare... for a little while.
We could hold lotteries and stuff to guess which Corps or Alliances develop things first like a huge weird game of Civ or something !  Last words:-á Either that wallpaper goes, or I do. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Easthir Ravin
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:47:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable. NAPTRAINS != effort Beside rules were biased - technetium redistribution. Why tech inst available across universe and then try again at winning. Same reason it's so valuable... if diamonds were shat out by squirrels they wouldn't be sought after or at all valuable No, technetium could be as valuable but was redistributed accros universe not just in few regions
Greetings
Once again communism rears its ugly head in the forums. Some people just don't get it ...
I realize that some players will never be proactive content drivers, but as a thought exerciser, put yourself on the side of the Alliances that worked very hard creating an environment that (through a massive amount of organization and effort) put themselves and their allies in a position to succeed at a fundamental tenant of the game, galaxy domination. Now from that vantage point reread your post and reflect.
Admit it now, you would tell yourself to suck it and HTFU...be honest
vr East IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!" |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
246
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:47:00 -
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Bet on Goons. We're really bloody dumb. But despite this we're still better at this game than everyone else. This is why they're all so mad. Heh. |

RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:51:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote: The speed and safety doesn't come close to null-bridges, cyno-alt netowrks networks and titan-relays as they are used by the large alliances in null.
Yes, because you can snap your fingers and instantly have a full jump bridge network for free, that's maintained and fuelled by the magical pixies that do all of the logistical work keeping the alliance running.
~10,058~ |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
246
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Posted - 2012.05.21 21:55:00 -
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I think we found all our tech moons down the back of the sofa.
Seriously, we don't even know what. Heh. |

Easthir Ravin
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:02:00 -
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RDevz wrote:Tobiaz wrote: The speed and safety doesn't come close to null-bridges, cyno-alt netowrks networks and titan-relays as they are used by the large alliances in null.
Yes, because you can snap your fingers and instantly have a full jump bridge network for free, that's maintained and fuelled by the magical pixies that do all of the logistical work keeping the alliance running.
HA! I knew they had pixies! IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!" |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1473
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:05:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote: If you nerfed super caps just because a group of people took the initiative then this would no longer be a sandbox....
I couldn't help myself |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
568
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:10:00 -
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When the game designers create an environment where one single resource is vastly more valuable than everything else in the, then concentrate that resource almost entirely in one geographical region what other outcome could there possibly be? |

Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:10:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Karn Dulake wrote: If you nerfed super caps just because a group of people took the initiative then this would no longer be a sandbox....
I couldn't help myself Man, you're right! We're totally being hypocritical, calling for a tech nerf and then defending supercaps! I mean, just look at us... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
843
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:22:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Karn Dulake wrote: If you nerfed super caps just because a group of people took the initiative then this would no longer be a sandbox....
I couldn't help myself Man, you're right! We're totally being hypocritical, calling for a tech nerf and then defending supercaps! I mean, just look at us... So much for the titans having to stay logged off. There's POSes to shoot ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Lord Zim
686
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:40:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Like how you Immed the Gms when ppl started shooting YOU at Burn Jita? Yeah just like that. You mean "when people exploited bugs"? |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
249
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:42:00 -
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Working as intended. Heh. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
844
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:44:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Like how you Immed the Gms when ppl started shooting YOU at Burn Jita? Yeah just like that. You mean "when people exploited bugs"? It Ain't sploitin' if it's goonies they shootin' Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
192
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:29:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable.
That's what happened in Incursions... at first they were death traps & a few put in the effort to crack them & now CCP removed the fruits of their labour from them.
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing!The system's crashing!"-Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:34:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:So now all moons are officially in the hands of the cartel that is pretty much now untouchable.
CCP if you wont do surprise tech nerf tomorrow you suck.
Player driven content, if something doesn't please you just do something about it. By the way what would you do with tech moons? kinda like ppl with a full tank brigade and supporting army looking at a civillian with a 9mm and saying "bring it" Brave.
Except that civvie had the same amount of time and same access to resources as the army, only the civvies wanted to spend all their time on making their 9mms gold plated instead of building an actual army. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:35:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Like how you Immed the Gms when ppl started shooting YOU at Burn Jita? Yeah just like that. You mean "when people exploited bugs"? It Ain't sploitin' if it's goonies they shootin'
Every way to shoot a goon is legit.
But if goons even look at the trigger it's an exploit. Double standards abound on these forums. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:40:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Ocih wrote:free logistical intell for you Goons.
Sell all your technetium at 70K P/U Once the nerf comes out (we know it will) you can have a bunch of worthless Technetium or you can have a bunch of ISK to buy the now worthless Technetium. Aside from reactor units, fullerides aren't in demand. There is too much technetium in EVE now. It will only get worse with ring mining. We know it will too. In fact, we were arguing against the tech bottleneck since before it went live. We even said that if the tech bottleneck happened it wouldn't take much for a large alliance to do the very thing we are now doing. tl;dr We know better than you, so eat it. Luckily people like that aren't in charge of the cartel, imagine the stupidity that would occur as five alliances 0.01isk themselves to death.
Such angry little goons.
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Shian Yang
189
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:47:00 -
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Iamien wrote:If you want a tech moon, I know of a relatively unknown one held in lowsec by a 10-man no-one corp. Pay me 2 bil and the system/planet/moon location is yours.
Greetings capsuleer Iamien,
I would be interested in negotiating with you. I can swing an up-front payment with dividends over the lifetime of the moon, should you be interested.
Regards,
Shian Yang |

Derglas Servekti
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
5
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Posted - 2012.05.21 23:58:00 -
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Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch.  ...just a thought!!
Well, if the goons have really won EVE, that's what we're supposed to do, isn't it? When somebody wins a game, you pack it up, set up a new game, and start going again.
Of course, BOB had won EVE a few years ago, hadn't they?
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Hench Tenet
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:00:00 -
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adam smash wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable. NAPTRAINS != effort Beside rules were biased - technetium redistribution. Why tech inst available across universe and then try again at winning. Same reason it's so valuable... if diamonds were shat out by squirrels they wouldn't be sought after or at all valuable Diamond prices are kept up... they are not worth anything next to what is paied for them...  GJ though because goons are doing the samething and trying to inflate the price to make more mone just like diamonds...
You know that the capitalist value of an item is defined by what people are willing to pay for it, right?
@Thread - it makes perfect sense for particular materials to be concentrated in a locale. It's how it works IRL. The people who took the tech would have taken whatever was most valuable. They could do so because... they could do so. |
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